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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
C: People like me expected perhaps some green items from the missions, Not 4 collections of Great Skins for every character class to attain :X
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Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it?
Lady Raenef
Taurucis
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Originally Posted by Darksun
So Timmy doesn't get kidnapped or shot. Sounds like I good trade off to me.
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TaCktiX
I don't really have much sympathy for all the people whining and complaining "but I didn't know!" I went out of my way to buy 3 character slots and the Game of the Year upgrades to qualify. I bought GW:EN at my local game store, NOT through the store (boxlover me). Thing was, I had to talk with my debit card creditors AND NCSoft support to make it even possible for me to get through a block on both sides related to "fraudulent activity."
ArenaNet releases top-notch content, always have. The only fault ANet has is sometimes not being complete enough (reused dungeon levels in GW:EN, DoA not available out of the box in NF), or letting some things shortfall in favor of others (Factions PvP was great, sad that the story sucked worse than a vacuum cleaner). They really do try, and I find it sad and hilarious at the same time that people doubt that what ArenaNet releases won't be as good as they can do.
And I do echo the OP's thoughts about the poor folks with tyrannical parents.
ArenaNet releases top-notch content, always have. The only fault ANet has is sometimes not being complete enough (reused dungeon levels in GW:EN, DoA not available out of the box in NF), or letting some things shortfall in favor of others (Factions PvP was great, sad that the story sucked worse than a vacuum cleaner). They really do try, and I find it sad and hilarious at the same time that people doubt that what ArenaNet releases won't be as good as they can do.
And I do echo the OP's thoughts about the poor folks with tyrannical parents.
bhavv
People were originally complianing about having to spend money in The online store to get free content. But now they found out it comes with cool weapons so they get spiked by Gaze Of Jealosy. As a result, they offer to PAY for it via the ONLINE STORE for a lot more then it would have cost them to just buy a few character slots, and think that they sound clever.
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As far as I am concerned, if Anet decides to not release the BMP seperately that is 100% okay as it is/was a limited time offer and we were constantly reminded of the fact that it was available every time we were at the character login screen. However there are now an overwhelming amount of people that want the BMP (most likely because of the new skins). I see nothing wrong with this reasoning or the fact that people are now QQing about not having it. Honestly, most of the stuff Anet has released as promotional items/extras have been made of fail. It just happens Anet managed to pull the BMP out of who knows where and make some amazing skins that everyone seems to crave. This said, it would be easy for Anet to make it accessible again as a stand-alone in the online store (or maybe in retail stores as well); because no doubt they could make some decent cash off of it.
The long stuff aside, the real question comes down to, should Anet give in and re-release something that everyone knew was a one-time promotional offer? The obvious answer seems like no, however it's Anet so who knows what to expect.
The long stuff aside, the real question comes down to, should Anet give in and re-release something that everyone knew was a one-time promotional offer? The obvious answer seems like no, however it's Anet so who knows what to expect.
Str0b0
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
lol, you've helped me make my point so much more than you can imagine it confirms what i'm saying, it's a bonus to YOU and i because we infact got it FOR FREE. i wouldn't define it as a BONUS to those that buy it later, but that doesn't mean that the pack shouldn't be available for regular purchase. if your "example" was right then i wouldn't be able to get a box of doughnuts without buying the pound of coffee first. you feeling cheated and less special if others were able to obtain it too no matter how much it makes your epeen shrink doesn't matter.
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To everyone else who thinks that whining about it will get you somewhere you may want to read this. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10216946
For the record what do you know Gaile and I agree that offering it as a standalone would defeat the purpose of it being a promotional item. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
Well I think I that I can rest easy after reading Gaile's response to the Jr. Sparatacus league and their little petition on site.
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Str0b0
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
Out of curiosity... can I get the link to that? I'm sure others would like to see it as well.
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Croco Clouds
If they tell us sooner that we get those weapons, I am pretty sure the sells will be a lot more higher in their store. If they keep keeping secret they'll lose money for sure, what kind of business skill is that anyway?
MoldyRiceFrenzy
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I don't regret not getting the BMP.
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i couldnt get it for many various reasons, kinda funny how everyone who is complaining to the complainers use the arguement of money issues... there are more issues than that.
the next problem with this online crap is that it seems like its allowing anet to get even more daring in what they can do to get ppl to pay to play... seems like anet is abandoning the little guys like the other mmorpgs ect...i guess they really need the money though...
Joe Fierce
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
For the record what do you know Gaile and I agree that offering it as a standalone would defeat the purpose of it being a promotional item. Go figure.
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Str0b0
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
your the type of person that never loses an arguement, not because you're never wrong, but because you refuse to see that you're wrong, aren't you?
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
Beat you to it. I linked it in the other post. read the second quoted block where she enumerates the reasons why they can't and won't offer it as a standalone nor will they offer alternative payment methods above and beyond what they have already offered.
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pumpkin pie
the question is, why are people stopping other people from getting this BMP?
Swift Thief
I don't want it anyways. Why are you ranting about people ranting?
bhavv
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Originally Posted by Croco Clouds
If they tell us sooner that we get those weapons, I am pretty sure the sells will be a lot more higher in their store. If they keep keeping secret they'll lose money for sure, what kind of business skill is that anyway?
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How can they lose money by more or less people getting a free mission pack?
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Vl Vl D
First of all I like the idea of not everyone having this bonus pack because it makes my heros stand out.
When this was anouced I brought Gwen online and asked my wife if she would like to do the same.Her response was somthing along the lines it wasnt worth the time to enter the credit card number,but guess who wants it to be sold in store now hahaha.
I dont play games escept for GW and when guild wars came out it was giving to me as a gift. If I had know about the CE with divine aura I wouldve brought it in a second and would do so if it was sold in the online store but I do not expect Anet to sell divine aura.I like the fact that divine aura is uncommon and so should you kids out there inregards to my new heros weapons.
I also live in Australia where we dont have alot of minipet comps or hand outs,so should I ask Anet to sell them online.
I brought Gwen online because I wanted to hand my cash streight to the people that gave me a nice game to play.I dont need to sleep with a box under my pillow or put GW posters up in my games room or what ever some of you do with your box.
You people that didnt,couldnt or wouldnt buy Gwen online to support Anet should stop with the crying and admire my heros weapons.Anyway im off to get some more wepons for my heros.
When this was anouced I brought Gwen online and asked my wife if she would like to do the same.Her response was somthing along the lines it wasnt worth the time to enter the credit card number,but guess who wants it to be sold in store now hahaha.
I dont play games escept for GW and when guild wars came out it was giving to me as a gift. If I had know about the CE with divine aura I wouldve brought it in a second and would do so if it was sold in the online store but I do not expect Anet to sell divine aura.I like the fact that divine aura is uncommon and so should you kids out there inregards to my new heros weapons.
I also live in Australia where we dont have alot of minipet comps or hand outs,so should I ask Anet to sell them online.
I brought Gwen online because I wanted to hand my cash streight to the people that gave me a nice game to play.I dont need to sleep with a box under my pillow or put GW posters up in my games room or what ever some of you do with your box.
You people that didnt,couldnt or wouldnt buy Gwen online to support Anet should stop with the crying and admire my heros weapons.Anyway im off to get some more wepons for my heros.
DarkGanni
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People are pissed because
A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands). B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!) C: People like me expected perhaps some green items from the missions, Not 4 collections of Great Skins for every character class to attain :X |
Halc yon
Alright people, here is the thing.
ANet is a company that allows us play a very very good game online for no subscription fee. But they have to make money in order to keep all the servers running.
Why is it cheaper for them to sell through the in-game store?
To explain a bit how things work in the real world for those of you who only sit in front of your computer.
A lot of products, take shoes, for example go through this process.
A manufacturer makes a pair of shoes for $5
They sell it to a broker for $10. That means the manufacturer makes $5 off of the shoe.
The broker then sells it to a jobber for $15.
The jobber sells to a wholesaler for $20.
The wholesaler sells to a retailer for 25$.
And finally the customer buys it for $30.
So if a shoe manufacturer sells directly to a customer, he will have sold it for $30 and profited $25 instead of selling to a broker and making only $5
That is what ANet is trying to do using the internet and they are rewarding those of us who cooperate. That is why it is called a Bonus.
So for those who refuse to make online purchases, tough luck. Part of making the online purchases is to support ANet. They have been more than generous to GW players and don't get enough appreciation.
If you didn't want to make online purchases but are willing to do it now because of the awesome new skins, tough luck.
ANet is a company that allows us play a very very good game online for no subscription fee. But they have to make money in order to keep all the servers running.
Why is it cheaper for them to sell through the in-game store?
To explain a bit how things work in the real world for those of you who only sit in front of your computer.
A lot of products, take shoes, for example go through this process.
A manufacturer makes a pair of shoes for $5
They sell it to a broker for $10. That means the manufacturer makes $5 off of the shoe.
The broker then sells it to a jobber for $15.
The jobber sells to a wholesaler for $20.
The wholesaler sells to a retailer for 25$.
And finally the customer buys it for $30.
So if a shoe manufacturer sells directly to a customer, he will have sold it for $30 and profited $25 instead of selling to a broker and making only $5
That is what ANet is trying to do using the internet and they are rewarding those of us who cooperate. That is why it is called a Bonus.
So for those who refuse to make online purchases, tough luck. Part of making the online purchases is to support ANet. They have been more than generous to GW players and don't get enough appreciation.
If you didn't want to make online purchases but are willing to do it now because of the awesome new skins, tough luck.
Halc yon
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They profit a lot more when you buy through the ingame store and are willing to give a free bonus because the cost of making the bonus will be covered by the extra money in the ingame store.
Whereas money will be lost by selling retail and giving the free bonus mission.
Doesn't mean that they are being cheap. They are just trying to keep an expensive server running for an online game that has no subscription fee.
Kerwyn Nasilan
I got GW:EN because I wanted it so BMP was full bonus to me. I feel bad for everyone who could not get it, the skins ARE pretty badass, and are making me poor paying for mods 
Neo Nugget
because the weapons are freaking awesome
oh and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdL7TPIb1vY
Turai's end cutscene, spoilers, but its soooo coool!
oh and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdL7TPIb1vY
Turai's end cutscene, spoilers, but its soooo coool!
Clone
I got it the BMP. I like it. I believe Anet should offer it for sale in the online store as a separate addon for those who missed it the first time around. There are far too many elitist jackasses and pricks in GW with the mentality that since they have something, no one else can.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to get a hardcopy release from a brick and mortar store.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to get a hardcopy release from a brick and mortar store.
Joe Fierce
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I have a reason. It's not a very good reason mind you, but I have one. I enjoy debate for the exercise and just to see people like you get bent out of shape. thanks. I'm amused for the night.
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Halc yon
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Originally Posted by Clone
I got it the BMP. I like it. I believe Anet should offer it for sale in the online store as a separate addon for those who missed it the first time around. There are far too many elitist jackasses and pricks in GW with the mentality that since they have something, no one else can.
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If they sell hardcopy and offer a free bonus pack they will lose money for the cost of making the hardcopy and making the bonus pack.
However if they sell through the freaking ingame store they can afford to offer the free bonus mission pack along with it.
It is a bonus for those who cooperated with them and are supporting their effort to keep the servers running. People are so blind as to how much it is costing them.
Kyp Jade
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Originally Posted by Clone
I got it the BMP. I like it. I believe Anet should offer it for sale in the online store as a separate addon for those who missed it the first time around. There are far too many elitist jackasses and pricks in GW with the mentality that since they have something, no one else can.
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I got the BMP, and I dont have to much problem if they sell it in the online store for $30-$40,
BUT
if they do this, they must also offer CE upgrades
Wish Swiftdeath
I would have got it if i could, i had enough money but my parents would not allow me to use their credit card...they didn't want to give their credit card info out onto the internet...
I don't know anywhere where i can get a pre-paid credit card or w/e. All those people saying i could have got it if i wanted to, how? i saved up- i had enough money but my parents said no. Unless i take my parents credit card and use it without their permission i couldn't get the BMP. Of course i could ask a friend's parents yea, that would sound real great "Excuse me, could i please borrow you're credit card to buy something online?"
I don't know anywhere where i can get a pre-paid credit card or w/e. All those people saying i could have got it if i wanted to, how? i saved up- i had enough money but my parents said no. Unless i take my parents credit card and use it without their permission i couldn't get the BMP. Of course i could ask a friend's parents yea, that would sound real great "Excuse me, could i please borrow you're credit card to buy something online?"
Str0b0
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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath
I would have got it if i could, i had enough money but my parents would not allow me to use their credit card...they didn't want to give their credit card info out onto the internet...
I don't know anywhere where i can get a pre-paid credit card or w/e. All those people saying i could have got it if i wanted to, how? i saved up- i had enough money but my parents said no. Unless i take my parents credit card and use it without their permission i couldn't get the BMP. Of course i could ask a friend's parents yea, that would sound real great "Excuse me, could i please borrow you're credit card to buy something online?" |
Clone
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If they sell hardcopy and offer a free bonus pack they will lose money for the cost of making the hardcopy and making the bonus pack.
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Wish Swiftdeath
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
You don't have a Walgreens? I know they have them right there in front of the register around here. anyway it's a closed debate man. I won't go into the reasons why. I'm sorry you missed out.
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Shadowspawn X
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Originally Posted by Clone
Indeed. Which is why I said offer it as a separate addon. In other words, sell it to people who missed out on getting it for free. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer before.
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mr_groovy
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Sorry But I really disagree on the 3rd reason there, The skins are great are gold colored (as most people want them req9 and inscribable) You pay the price of them being customized to you and cant be sold but the good thing is that you can get all the ones you want, how can people be pissed cause of that?
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@OP to question: Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it?
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A: Not every country it's needed to have a credit card. ( we for instance use the pin system in the Netherlands). B: They had a paypal pol or to pay by sms. Where's that now? (No you don't need a credit card to use paypal, you can make a bankdeposit to it!!!!) C: People like me expected perhaps some green items from the missions, Not 4 collections of Great Skins for every character class to attain :X |
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
What you never heard of PINPAS? of course you have it's the very system you are describing. They do issue pre paid plastic cards if you can get off your lazy butt and go get one. I used to travel a lot in Europe and guess what no pin for me so yeah I know you can get them. It functions the same as a Mastercard and, Masetro brand I believe. I'll have to look for my euro junk box. anyway without a pin, in pin based systems you have to have a debit card unless you want to carry cash around and get robbed, thus rendering you penniless. I always travel with pre paid debit cards whereever I go.
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) Pls send me a link where I can get a Pre-Paid CREDITCARD that I can use on the INTERNETZ. I still want to buy 2 char slots, so yeah big help if you could......Just to make it clear to everybody, To awnser the ops question. People would regret not get bmp because a, b, c I stated above. Do I personally regret getting it. Meh just a bit, it's not that I'm ticked off beyond comprehension.
Do I regret from getting a cc account for 50 Euro's or so, and using it only once for getting the 2 charslots + gwen ? Hell no. Wised non purchase I made all year. Maybe I don't have/ want to throw away 50 euro's just to get some virtual extra goodies.
For the record I have the pre-orders on Factions, Nightfall & Gwen. And the collectors Edition of Nightfall. (Couldn't get CE of Factions, because they ran out of stock and had 2 wait otherwise for 2 weeks).So don't call me not dedicated enough.
gone
you really really want to know why? Proof positive. wow 14k clicks on a thread with new skin pix!
Thread with In-game SS of well...the Game..number of clicks...LoL
people's fingers are doing the talking.
Thread with In-game SS of well...the Game..number of clicks...LoL
people's fingers are doing the talking.
Karmaniac
I still wonder why Visa Electron is accepted pretty much nowhere. Is it really that hard to qualify as certified by Visa or what?
Glider of chaos
Just a sidenote: If ANet will give people another chance to get BMP somwhere in the near future I bet there will be major whining spree on those forums with "how do they dare?!" point 
I'd really like to see it happen ^_^ It would be so awesome =)
I'd really like to see it happen ^_^ It would be so awesome =)
Rathcail
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I still wonder why Visa Electron is accepted pretty much nowhere. Is it really that hard to qualify as certified by Visa or what?
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Mangione
Am I the only one that hasn't got the BMP and thinks it is not worth even a couple of bucks?
Yes, they are some fun missions, Anet did a really good job as usual (I love this game and appreciate the effort they put into their work, other companies should learn from them) but... but I can't see myself paying for it as a standalone product.
I've seen a friend complete it in 6/7 minutes each mission at his house, well... I saw it wasn't that much.
I think all the whining and regretting for not having it is due to the weapons
OMG CANT HAVE TEH SHINING WEAPONZORZS!!!! WTF ANET SUCKS!!! I WNAT ALLL TEH BOXZORS ADN TEH MISSIONZORS GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
I consider myself lucky for not being into the videogame business.
I can't deal with immature customers.
QFT.
GIMME SHINY WEAPONZORZORZS!!!ONE!!!1!!
Yes, they are some fun missions, Anet did a really good job as usual (I love this game and appreciate the effort they put into their work, other companies should learn from them) but... but I can't see myself paying for it as a standalone product.
I've seen a friend complete it in 6/7 minutes each mission at his house, well... I saw it wasn't that much.
I think all the whining and regretting for not having it is due to the weapons
OMG CANT HAVE TEH SHINING WEAPONZORZS!!!! WTF ANET SUCKS!!! I WNAT ALLL TEH BOXZORS ADN TEH MISSIONZORS GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
I consider myself lucky for not being into the videogame business.
I can't deal with immature customers.
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you really really want to know why? Proof positive. wow 14k clicks on a thread with new skin pix!
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GIMME SHINY WEAPONZORZORZS!!!ONE!!!1!!
Jongo River
The title for this thread is completely bogus - it's not regret and the complaints are not new. They started the moment the BMP was announced, and have been repeated each time the subject has been raised. Some of you seem to like re-writing history to support your arguments.
This method of selling is in no ones interest, except ANet's. How the hell does it get such vociferous support?
This method of selling is in no ones interest, except ANet's. How the hell does it get such vociferous support?
Ninna
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Pls send me a link where I can get a Pre-Paid CREDITCARD that I can use on the INTERNETZ.
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NO CREDIT CARD NEEDED
Cobalt
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Indeed. Which is why I said offer it as a separate addon. In other words, sell it to people who missed out on getting it for free. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer before.
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