Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 18:07 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by booooYA

Why was it a stupid question to have in a poll? It basically touched upon what everyone has been saying, "I don't have a credit card, but I would use PayPal" or "I've heard bad things about using a credit card through PlayNC, so I'd prefer using PayPal." If PayPal were available in the store, then great. Unfortunately, prices would go up because it costs money to receive payments.

In general the whole poll bugged me. I was hoping for something more along the lines of "Should ANet provide PayPal? Yes or No?," but that's not what Gaile's intentions of the thread were.

Then again, I guess it was kind of pointless since in Gaile's post in explained why they wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by booooYA

So, you haven't seen GW:EN going for $40 anywhere, that just makes it more valid to me that it the BMP should not be available now.

You made it sound earlier like it had been a fair trade, and normally I'd agree, but having to dish out an extra ten bucks doesn't sound terribly worth it.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

30 Nov 2007 at 18:10 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saphatorael

... I'd say something nifty so we could all laugh at you, but I'm laughing too much already. You're funny.

I don't have the BMP enabled, simply because I'm paranoid and don't want to put up my bank account info on the internet. Heck, some people even got charged 50 dollars (clicked 5 times in the online store) but didn't get any char slots at first, which was another reason for me to distrust the system.

Furthermore, loads of people are underage and their parents are the ones who decide what gets to be done with money; even though I was 18 back when it was promoted and stuff, I already know my parents wouldn't do it for me, and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one with that kind of parents.

ANet will be implementing an SMS payment option in the 'near future'. A bit too late, else I would've gotten it.

I'm not ranting about not having the BMP, simply because it's just more dumb PvE that could've cost me more than the game (as in, EotN, loads of people bought EotN in the online store after the BMP info was out) costed me in real life (I had 2 price reduction coupons anyway). But fact is that not everybody was able to get it. I just hope ANet will give everybody a proper chance to obtain bonus content.

More like you have nothing to say.
Okay, some people said this some people said that. Some idiots also stated earlier that Mending > All. We going to believe that too?
Okay, you are young, your parents won't buy it for you. That's that. Yes, it's not your fault, but if you really want something, you'll find a way. You know, like friends.
If it's more dumb PvE, what's with "else I would've gotten it"?
As for proper chance, Anet gave you the chance. You don't see people in some countries that doesn't sell GW come on the forum and rant about "having an equal chance"? Because there is no such thing.

Zorgy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Paris, France

[any]

W/Me

30 Nov 2007 at 18:13 - 43

"....The BMP was the only reason I would buy GW:EN from the online store. The $39.99 you pay in store includes the box, manual, and CD (not to forget the packing and shipping costs). The online store charges you the same amount while forgoing those things above. I'm sure A-Net knows this and knows that people would rather have the box physically. To me, the BMP was like getting the box. You can argue that there are other things in the store one could purchase (like character slots) and that's true, but it seems it was mainly set up for GW:EN. It was a promotion, a bonus, and it was known for months..."

We are living in a MATERIAL WORLD (hiya Madonna) & most of GW players are sheeps who rather prefer to own a box + manual + CD. Me I dont mind & being curious the fact to RELIVE what happened with GWEN, The White Mantle & so on interested me so I said to myself...why not? so I did it. I don't mind the items....I got dozens of them, but the stories are nice.

And I remember on the GW official web site a LONG interview of the scenario team manager selling his stuff quite well. Didn't you read it? and now they whine

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 18:13 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halc yon

For those of you who are younger and couldn't get it, or your parents wouldn't get it for you, I understand. Sorry.

That's bullcrap.

As I said in the petition thread, if you're old enough to be playing this game, you're old enough to earn the $29.00. If you're old enough to earn $29.00, you should be smart enough to figure out how to get payment to Anet's online store.

An eight year old can pick up bottles, or open a lemonade stand, cut the neighbour's grass/shovel snow. etc.

Point is, they would rather sit on their butts in front of a computer and complain about it. Much better then have had done anything about it... Right?

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

30 Nov 2007 at 18:16 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

I'm sorry but you must have something wrong with your or be serioursly thick. The principle is that not everyone has access to a credit card, fair enough. Why is this a problem? It was the only way to obtain the pack, thats the point most people are making but your not intelligent enough to see that.

Loviatar is intelligent enough to realize that the situation for payment methods is more complicated than "ANET needs to accommodate everyone everywhere" He's pointing out one of the reasons that you can't simply point the finger at ANET in this situation, there are lots of factors involved. I don't think Loviatar is the "thick" one here.
Also, Amadei just showed that it's possible to get a credit card in the Netherlands, where mr_groovy seemed to say they couldn't. You can't just villify ANET.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 18:18 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebaall

That's bullcrap.

As I said in the petition thread, if you're old enough to be playing this game, you're old enough to earn the $29.00. If you're old enough to earn $29.00, you should be smart enough to figure out how to get payment to Anet's online store.

An eight year old can pick up bottles, or open a lemonade stand, cut the neighbour's grass/shovel snow. etc.

Point is, they would rather sit on their butts in front of a computer and complain about it. Much better then have had done anything about it... Right?

Not to mention the ESRB rating is Teen.

And dammit, how old is Teen anyways? The GW box says "see back of box for details" but the boxes are double sided.

jiggerjay

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

England

Curse of the grail [Cotg]

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30 Nov 2007 at 18:19 - 47

i tihnk it should have been done on the basic of adding $30 of product to your account throught the online store or adding a key code of a newly released expansion from when the promotion started.

i am not whining and bitching about it, because i know in the end someother people will make too much noise and it will end up becoming available through another route.

i am not too young to have a credit card, i have one, but i refuse to link it with my account, when e-crime and the like is on the rise, how do i know its safe.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 18:22 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

I'm sorry but you must have something wrong with your or be serioursly thick. The principle is that not everyone has access to a credit card, fair enough. Why is this a problem? It was the only way to obtain the pack, thats the point most people are making but your not intelligent enough to see that.

and i hold your opinions in an equally high regard

now you go talk to mr Groovy.

he had access but it is his bank not Anet that stopped him by being greedy.....50 euros for a CC?

Quote:

But I refuse to pay 50 Euro's a year only to make a one time payment at the ingame store. As all other internet purchases I make are either by paypal or bankdeposit.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 18:26 - 49

Let's all stand around and beat the dead horse ..... again! People moaned about it before it's release, and here we are again. If we all cry long enough I'm sure ANet will figure out a way to soothe our miseries and then we can figure out something else to cry about.

/sarcasm

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

30 Nov 2007 at 18:32 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebaall

That's bullcrap.

As I said in the petition thread, if you're old enough to be playing this game, you're old enough to earn the $29.00. If you're old enough to earn $29.00, you should be smart enough to figure out how to get payment to Anet's online store.

An eight year old can pick up bottles, or open a lemonade stand, cut the neighbour's grass/shovel snow. etc.

Point is, they would rather sit on their butts in front of a computer and complain about it. Much better then have had done anything about it... Right?

An eight year old CAN pick up bottles, or open a lemonade stand, etc...

But do his parents ALLOW him to?

"I'm not letting you outside Timmy, you might get kidnapped or shot."

Vaal 84

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

UK

R/

30 Nov 2007 at 18:34 - 51

i don't think this situation is going to get solved. Either its made available to buy or its not. its a shame because 29 months on i feel robbed. I appreciate its only a few quests and a few skins. But i enjoy this game. And i want to enjoy all of this game. I don't qualify because i don't have a credit card. Maybe Guildwars 2 wont qualify because i'd rather spend my cash elswehere.

Ladybadone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Vikings of Midgard

30 Nov 2007 at 18:34 - 52

Just started playing GW about 3wks ago, so couldt get it. If i could I would.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

30 Nov 2007 at 18:41 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaal 84

But i enjoy this game. And i want to enjoy all of this game. I don't qualify because i don't have a credit card. Maybe Guildwars 2 wont qualify because i'd rather spend my cash elswehere.

After having spent 2x36€ (which is nearly 100$) in their online store, buying slots, unlock packs and previews outside of the promotion months, I'm not entitled to enjoy the new missions, and I'll never be able, even if I'm willing to spend some more money and further finance this so called company.

Too bad I financed them so far, that's what idiot customers like me deserve.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

30 Nov 2007 at 18:41 - 54

I don't regret not getting it because... its 4 10 miniute missions. Big deal.

$30 of my money would take 3-4 hours to make at my part time job. Its not cost effective to spend 4 hours working for 40 miniutes of entertainment.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 18:47 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I don't regret not getting it because... its 4 10 miniute missions. Big deal.

+ Awesome weapons. Something *no one* saw coming.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

30 Nov 2007 at 18:52 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

+ Awesome weapons. Something *no one* saw coming.

Oh please...

Turai's sword was SOOOO a giveway.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

30 Nov 2007 at 18:54 - 57

At least the awesome weapons are customized for the character, this means no one else gets an edge economically. Not that it makes everything okay, but at least it's not one more thing to complain about.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 18:56 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Oh please...

Turai's sword was SOOOO a giveway.

How come people are excluding the Undead, Charr, Mursaat, and Tengu weapons??

(or am I not seeing the /sarcasm tags?)

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Originally Posted by booooYA

At least the awesome weapons are customized for the character, this means no one else gets an edge economically. Not that it makes everything okay, but at least it's not one more thing to complain about.

Now if only they could do the same for minipets...

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

30 Nov 2007 at 18:58 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by booooYA

At least the awesome weapons are customized for the character, this means no one else gets an edge economically. Not that it makes everything okay, but at least it's not one more thing to complain about.

I rather have them not customized,and dependable on the prices given by the BMP players,then not being able to get them at all.

Mork from Ork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

30 Nov 2007 at 19:00 - 60

I don't care about not getting the BMP - don't even care about the great new weapons

except......

Now I am very upset they put crap armor and weapons in EotN that we paid for.

If you are going to put great skins in the free promotion at least put some effort into the part people actually paid for.

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 19:15 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mork from Ork

Now I am very upset they put crap armor and weapons in EotN that we paid for.

I'll never understand the complaints about EotN armor. I don't care if they are reskins, they're some of the best looking sets in the game.

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

30 Nov 2007 at 19:29 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurucis

An eight year old CAN pick up bottles, or open a lemonade stand, etc...

But do his parents ALLOW him to?

"I'm not letting you outside Timmy, you might get kidnapped or shot."

So Timmy doesn't get kidnapped or shot. Sounds like I good trade off to me.
Are you suggesting your safety is worth less than the Bonus Mission Pack? Or are you using an unrealistically extreme case to make a broad point?

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Originally Posted by Abnaxus

After having spent 2x36€ (which is nearly 100$) in their online store, buying slots, unlock packs and previews outside of the promotion months, I'm not entitled to enjoy the new missions, and I'll never be able, even if I'm willing to spend some more money and further finance this so called company.

Too bad I financed them so far, that's what idiot customers like me deserve.

I know, I buy $40 worth of gas a WEEK at the same place... what do I get?? NOTHING BUT MORE GAS!

Fluffiliscious

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

US

Gods Army of the [Dead]

E/

30 Nov 2007 at 20:17 - 63

They're regretting not getting it because of all of the cool skin screenies that everyone is posting

Ancient Menace

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

30 Nov 2007 at 21:39 - 64

I'm just lolling at all the QQ's... "Well, ANet didn't TELL us that there were going to be cool skins..." Yeah, and I didn't know microsoft stock was going to quadruple in price in the 90's. Maybe I should go complain to bill gates and tell him it's not fair I'm not a millionaire. After all, I AM using windows and i paid 90 bux for it so I'm a loyal customer...

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

30 Nov 2007 at 21:43 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

And somehow it feels as if Arena net doesnt judge me as a good customer.

ding ding ding

They already got your money. You're not a good customer anymore...because you already bought everything you need. Such is life dealing with a PROFITABLE BUSINESS, and it's something I've been saying for a while now. Anet doesn't care about the players, they care about their bottom line.

Dev121

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Nov 2007 at 21:47 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

ding ding ding

They already got your money. You're not a good customer anymore...because you already bought everything you need. Such is life dealing with a PROFITABLE BUSINESS, and it's something I've been saying for a while now. Anet doesn't care about the players, they care about their bottom line.

Your so unbelivably wrong, Anet are making further GW products so where would the sense be to wind them all up? There doing it anyway but thats not what there thinking. They do care but not enough to make too much of a effort.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

30 Nov 2007 at 21:53 - 67

For the people in locales that don't normally use credit cards:

Maybe ANet screwed up by marketing and selling Guild Wars to those places without having a better means to buy the in-store stuff that's not offered on the shelves. In other words, maybe they shouldn't offer GW2 in those places, at least until they come up with other payment plans.

For the people too young to buy it:

Too bad. Blame your parents even though maybe they had more important things to spend their 'earned' money on than A little bonus pack for you. Be glad your parents even let you get the game in the first place. Not everyone is that lucky. I know we couldn't afford that kind of luxury when I was growing up. You're just spoiled. Of course this just goes to those that are complaining and not to those that accept that they couldn't get it for those reasons.

For those that didn't trust doing business on the internet:

E-Commerce isn't going away. You made a choice. Live with it.

ANet could have done it better, agreed. Sometimes people need to just accept responsibility for their own choices though. Again, this just goes out to those complaining with those reasons I listed.

Also, as far as things like SMS giving people with parents that won't buy stuff for them a chance, that's merely asking ANet to help you get around your parents saying no. That will only happen so many times I imagine, especially when your parents probably pay the bill.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

30 Nov 2007 at 22:35 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

Loviatar is intelligent enough to realize that the situation for payment methods is more complicated than "ANET needs to accommodate everyone everywhere" He's pointing out one of the reasons that you can't simply point the finger at ANET in this situation, there are lots of factors involved. I don't think Loviatar is the "thick" one here.
Also, Amadei just showed that it's possible to get a credit card in the Netherlands, where mr_groovy seemed to say they couldn't. You can't just villify ANET.

Pls Read is that just to much to demand? Hate quoting myself but:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Hell I don't mind to pay an additional few dollars to get something from the internetz.
But I refuse to pay 50 Euro's a year only to make a one time payment at the ingame store. As all other internet purchases I make are either by paypal or bankdeposit.

I never said it was impossible to get a credit card. But me paying for something I'm only going to use once? Nope

It's not I like I can farm euro's in the underworld or something

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

30 Nov 2007 at 22:51 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

So Timmy doesn't get kidnapped or shot. Sounds like I good trade off to me.
Are you suggesting your safety is worth less than the Bonus Mission Pack? Or are you using an unrealistically extreme case to make a broad point?

Nah... you are missing the point. The point is, some parents are so overprotective, they don't let their kids work for/spend their own money.

arcady

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

San Francisco native

Mo/P

30 Nov 2007 at 22:57 - 70

There are ways to buy prepaid credit cards - you can even get them online, and if someone really cared, they could figure out how to do that from a country with no credit card system. Or buy a prepaid locally - one where you give over so much cash, and they give you a 16-digit number that works like a VISA anywhere you enter it, for that value.

If you are online, you had the ability to buy this, and you had months to figure out how to do that. My extended family is in three countries, five if I count the spouses of my siblings, seven if I include my own spouse's friends, all with different systems, in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, and South East Asia. So I know you can do these things when you want to if you are dilligent.

Months.

Sorry, sympathy here = 0.

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

30 Nov 2007 at 22:59 - 71

I must be one of the few people who are actually glad they didn't waste more money on this so-called bonus. The skins aren't all that impressive. But hey, whatever floats your boat

arcady

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

San Francisco native

Mo/P

30 Nov 2007 at 23:04 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

They already got your money. You're not a good customer anymore...because you already bought everything you need. Such is life dealing with a PROFITABLE BUSINESS, and it's something I've been saying for a while now. Anet doesn't care about the players, they care about their bottom line.

Your understanding of business is so vastly uninformed, and so wrong on so many levels, it is just amazing.

Customer relations outweighs simple dollars on so many levels, particularly in terms of ability to earn dollars.

We are all very valuable to Anet even if we never spend another dollar on an Anet product because we carry Anet's brand name in our pockets. Anet's image it what will determine whether or not it can continue to pull in revenue from new customers, and we are the ones who make the call over what that image is.

The power of having a game like GW is that Anet can get repetative contact with the very consumer base it is trying to make a good name with. Most companies spend very large budgets trying to persuade an unknown public that they have things that public wants. A company with an active community can get right in touch with the core movers and shakers of that public - the ones who set the trends for its public perception.

Even if we buy nothing more from Anet, we influence everyone else who may or may not choose to buy from Anet based upon our feelings towards Anet.

So... we are very valuable to Anet. More so than even a paying customer in a store. That customer has only marginal value until (s)he joins us.

Friar Khan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

30 Nov 2007 at 23:05 - 73

lol at myself because somehow I thought this wasn't going to devolve into yet another thread where people are whining about not getting the bmp.

My sympathies tho to people who couldn't get it due to circumstances outside of their control.

imo the BMP is good and fun but it's not worth crying over. There are a lot of great skins in the campaigns/expansions if you think about it. Personally I'm having trouble deciding on BMP weapons to get because I already am very pleased with the weapons I've been using. The BMP skins are getting a lot of praise because they're new, good, and easy to get. My point is that there are many skins that would get the same amount of positive attention if they were released in such a way.

Glider of chaos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/N

30 Nov 2007 at 23:07 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halc yon

Now that BMP is out, why are so many people regretting not getting it?
...Why then, if you knew you wanted it, did you not start a petition sooner?...

You probably forgot how it was on this forum back there. Half of the forum was flaming about this "bonus". Or do you think that petition is the only thing that matters? IMO that's wrong - petition is pretty useless as well.

Thinking of this bonus pack situation I've got a few ideas I'd like to share. Lots of people became frustrated back there coz they wanted this bonus pack but had no means to get it. There was flaming, whining, cursing and all kind of usual stuff including few constructive ideas. As people let their frustration out and nothing really happened it all came to an end. It was obvious that release of the bonus pack will bring it back (unless it will be totally lame).

So, all this "before" and "after" talk is not the point at all here. People just got a reminder that they were ignored back there and they're venting anger.

P.S. I've got no bonus pack due to the fact that I live in country with problematic credit cards. I can't say that I care for this bonus pack much.

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

30 Nov 2007 at 23:58 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcady

There are ways to buy prepaid credit cards - you can even get them online, and if someone really cared, they could figure out how to do that from a country with no credit card system. Or buy a prepaid locally - one where you give over so much cash, and they give you a 16-digit number that works like a VISA anywhere you enter it, for that value.

If you are online, you had the ability to buy this, and you had months to figure out how to do that. My extended family is in three countries, five if I count the spouses of my siblings, seven if I include my own spouse's friends, all with different systems, in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, and South East Asia. So I know you can do these things when you want to if you are dilligent.

Months.

Sorry, sympathy here = 0.

Oh pls send me a link where I in the Netherlands can get a prepaid credit card . If not stop talking like the whole world only works with credit cards >.>

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

01 Dec 2007 at 00:19 - 76

as mentioned earlier

Paysafe was an available option thru PlayNC store since 08/02
http://www.developmag.com/press-rele...ng-paysafecard

Quote:

Thursday 2nd August/...NCsoft Europe, the world’s leading publisher and developer of online games announced today their partnership with paysafecard, a new way for players across Europe to pay for their favourite NCsoft games, without the need of a credit card. paysafecard will go into effect on www.plaync.com from today, offering players an even greater choice and ease of payment.

players had 3 months to use PaySafe as an alternative option

Burning Blade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Syag

01 Dec 2007 at 01:02 - 77

I don't have BMP and don't regret not having it. Though I love the new weapon skins. They own all the unique skins available from the 4 campaigns' elite areas! Man those new scythes look sick! I wish they are tradable!

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

01 Dec 2007 at 01:24 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Nah... you are missing the point. The point is, some parents are so overprotective, they don't let their kids work for/spend their own money.

hell, before I pulled my wife out of her parents' house (she was 24 at the time, mind you) her parents wouldn't let her breathe without permission, much less spend her own money earned through hard work. 24 years old. and you think normal kids have it bad.

---

anet made it pretty damn clear that the rewards were a special surprise, which both was a boon and a curse- some people would be looking forward to it and others wouldn't break down enough to trust them. Now that it's out the naysayers are bashing anet for "letting them down" and now want access.

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

01 Dec 2007 at 01:36 - 79

Well, i'm just go on the record here, and say i've got the BMP, i made the requirement, i love it... it's a great mini-expansion, but for all the other epic d-bags who are saying "i'm uber leet cause i gots it and now you can'ts so i'm talk trash about it to you now" should just stfu please, cause seriously if you were in the same position you'd be screaming for it too. not everyone has rich mummy and diddys. not everyone has a credit card. not everyone has money, which would kinda point out the reason why they play this instead of WoW. I have the bonus mission pack, but i'm starting to see that i'm the one of the few who do that think everyone should be able to get it.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

01 Dec 2007 at 01:55 - 80

I say don't offer it for sale period. Bonus is by definition an extra given for meeting a requirement. As for euro customers and their whines I know FOR A FACT that you can get pre loaded debit and credit cards there. What stopped you? Did you forget your pin? Same goes for minors. Any chump with 40 bucks cash can get a pre loaded card with 30 dollars on it. The promotion was offered you did have a means to participate you were just either A) too inept or B) too lazy to find out how and Arena Net can hardly be held responsible for it. So now you miss out on the groovey skins and you can all sip on your haterade and watch me pimp my new Charr curses staff and undead sword.

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Oh pls send me a link where I in the Netherlands can get a prepaid credit card . If not stop talking like the whole world only works with credit cards >.>

What you never heard of PINPAS? of course you have it's the very system you are describing. They do issue pre paid plastic cards if you can get off your lazy butt and go get one. I used to travel a lot in Europe and guess what no pin for me so yeah I know you can get them. It functions the same as a Mastercard and, Masetro brand I believe. I'll have to look for my euro junk box. anyway without a pin, in pin based systems you have to have a debit card unless you want to carry cash around and get robbed, thus rendering you penniless. I always travel with pre paid debit cards whereever I go.