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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Dec 2007 at 16:38 - 41

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

i find this total crap, if it stays forever so now like this ...

GW was thought and concepted as high end area, not for lvl 10 noobs, which get unfair buffed....

12/9/9/9 >.> = 241 AP buff

this shit shows us only, that anet begins even not to care about their own concepts and that they start to ignore themself and thigns they've said ....

did any of the total morons bitching notice temporary for this trial weekend?

also this will help illustrate the sidekick system from GW2 as well

TEMPORARY BOOST

if only the stupidity were temp as well

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

07 Dec 2007 at 16:40 - 42

just started a new necro in nf.....almost level 10, now I can get jagged bones without finishing nf (or finding an elusive elite necro tome)...and return to finish noob island!
Though some of my other characters arent too happy about it (they want one of those freebie weapons). oh well, hope its only for the weekend.

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

07 Dec 2007 at 16:43 - 43

Yeah, I'm with others here trying to figure out how this has any bad effect on anyone.

The gripes I've heard and read make zero sense at all. Even mentioning the Survivor title is absurd. Think about it... When do most people die and lose their shot at LS? From what I've read and experienced it's typically past tier 1. Where is tier 1? It's right at level 20. As soon as new characters hit level 20 they could already go to GW:EN anyway. So complaining about the Survivor title being diminished because there's another way to level from 10-20 is... well, not a very good reason to get one's panties in a bunch. Complaining about that would be the same as complaining that low levels can get to KC and do those easy and enormous xp rewards quests in Bukdek and Wajjun - as well as buy max level armor (Docks too). The 'trick' to getting LS isn't the ability to find and get to adequate mobs for adequate experience, it's living through those skirmishes.

Complaining about pugging with under 20's in GW:EN?? Firstly, nobody really has to. Secondly, the only thing that keeps them down is the wackadoo attributes (as long as they buy the max armor in Boreal).

I have 12 characters of level 20 in GW:EN. After seeing the update, for the fun of it, I hopped on my goofy, play-when-I-don't-feel-like-doing-anything-else lvl 10 ele/mule and made my way to the Eye. Guess what? I didn't bother anybody while standing in there at lvl 11 either.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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07 Dec 2007 at 16:43 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

did any of the total morons bitching notice temporary for this trial weekend?

also this will help illustrate the sidekick system from GW2 as well

TEMPORARY BOOST

if only the stupidity were temp as well

Where did you see "temporary?"

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

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07 Dec 2007 at 16:47 - 45

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Basically I personally just hate the idea, because it kills the idea of GWEN being high end content and having a sort of reasurance that most players there have experience. Also how does a lvl10 deserve to run around in high end armor or to own a destroyer weapon or prestige armor?

Lol wut, high level content? Because it's aimed at lvl20 players? Omg Ancestral lands is high level content too!

Reassurance that people know what they're doing? Any scrub can get lvl 20. Like hell does that make him experienced.

And @ the comment about not deserving weapons / armour. That's exactly all it is. Weapons and armour. Appearance. Why does that matter?

I honestly don't care. They ruin nothing for me. It's not like i PUG with lvl20s, so why would i PUG with lvl10s?

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

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07 Dec 2007 at 16:48 - 46

I don't see temporary either...

It doesn't say trial event either, I haven't checked the login announcement though. Free access was the event, when I look at this it doesn't say that it's tied to the free access event.

Why would they bother going to the trouble of adding an armourer, a weaponsmith and a new passive buff just for two days?

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Originally Posted by GW.com

Update - Thursday December 6
Lowered Level Access for Entry into Eye of the North

* Characters can now enter Eye of the North as early as level 10 by accepting the quest "What Lies Beneath" from Len Caldoron in Lion's Arch, "I Feel the Earth Move Under Cantha's Feet" from Minister of Maintenance Raiugyon in Kaineng Center, or "Hole of Istan" from Bendah in Kamadan.
* Players who are between levels 10 and 19 and are in Eye of the North maps will automatically receive a buff called Journey to the North. This buff grants players a base Health of 480 and bonuses to their attributes, and replaces their current armor level with the max armor level for that class until they reach level 20.
* The Journey to the North buff sets one attribute to rank 12 and three additional attributes to rank 9. The effect overrides the player's current ranks in all attributes and places 12 ranks in the attribute of the weapon the player is wielding, 9 ranks in that player's primary attribute, 9 ranks based on the attribute of the focus or shield the player is wearing (if applicable), and 9 ranks based on the skills on the player's Skill Bar until the player has three attributes with 9 ranks in them.
* Upon reaching level 20, the Journey to the North buff goes away the next time that player enters a new zone.
* Players new to Eye of the North can now receive a basic max damage weapon by completing the Hero Tutorial quest given by Burol Ironfist in Boreal Station. Once completed, players receive a Burol Ironfist's Commendation item that can be turned in to Arkor Leadfoot in Boreal Station for a weapon of their choosing.
* A new armorer, Jolvor Stoneforge, has been added to Boreal Station to give players a cheaper source of basic max level armor in the Eye of the North expansion.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

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07 Dec 2007 at 16:56 - 47

"Don't confront me, long as I get my money next Friday."

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JellyBelly

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:03 - 48

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Originally Posted by Karia Mirniman

GW is not a solo player game.

Check the back of your box/case. My GW case says:

We Let You Play with Your Friends or Ours
Join with friends or play solo with a band of skillful henchmen

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:05 - 49

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Originally Posted by Saraphim

Lol @ GW:EN = High End.

LOL with you at this one.

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

This is pissing off exactly the kind of people I tend to think deserve a miserable life - those who have far too much concern for what other players are doing & what they have access to.

I'm with you. Pretty pathetic ppl thinking they deserve more than any other playing the game.

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Lol wut, high level content? Because it's aimed at lvl20 players? Omg Ancestral lands is high level content too!

Reassurance that people know what they're doing? Any scrub can get lvl 20. Like hell does that make him experienced.

And @ the comment about not deserving weapons / armour. That's exactly all it is. Weapons and armour. Appearance. Why does that matter?

I honestly don't care. They ruin nothing for me.

They only ruin everything for ppl with big egos, the same ppl who want others to play the way they want.

I don't know if this update is temporary or not, but I hope it is, to see some more of those ppl pissed off. lol

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Dec 2007 at 17:14 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saraphim

I don't see temporary either...

It doesn't say trial event either, I haven't checked the login announcement though. Free access was the event, when I look at this it doesn't say that it's tied to the free access event.

Why would they bother going to the trouble of adding an armourer, a weaponsmith and a new passive buff just for two days?

you are right and i was just going to post what you already posted.

i like it immensely

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:20 - 51

Well, what does it mean to people who happen to catch news of this, have been away from the game for some time, and have some experience with the game? It means they may want to try it out. It seems strange to do it, but they'll probably bring some people back. I like that.

The downside is, that if they choose to keep this buff idea forever, then they'll have even more people with shit skillbars entering high end areas. Maybe a level 10 will find other level 10s to party with, but if people start deciding to let them enter into normal groups because of the buffs then that won't be good.

If I had new characters to make then I'd like going into GWEN to reach max level easily than to do it any other way, so I know they'll make some people very happy.

MagmaRed

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:20 - 52

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Also how does a lvl10 deserve to run around in high end armor or to own a destroyer weapon or prestige armor?

Same way they always have. This access to GW:EN does not change that. People get max armor from Granite Citadel, Marhan's Grotto, Kodash Bazaar, etc. at level 10, AND UNDER. Just pay for a run, and have the right materials and money available. People can buy a Destroyer weapon at level 1 if they want, and have the money.

If you are worried about someone being level 10 and getting Monument Armor, Asuran Armor, Norn Armor, or Dwarven Armor, forget it. They need 26k rep points first, and that will easily get them to level 20. Not only that, but it is nothing more than a cosmetic change, as max armor is available to all as early as Kaineng Center or Consulate Docks. Tyrian max armor is not too hard to get to, but would require more work or runs.

If you just don't want to join PUGs with lvl 10 players, don't. If you do, they will be given temporary boosts to make them comparable to a lvl 20 player. Health, armor, and attributes all get a boost.

So, what was the problem? You didn't get to play GW:EN as a level 10, and now you're mad others can?

Fluffiliscious

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:20 - 53

I say, "Welcome and good luck".

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:29 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

you are right and i was just going to post what you already posted.

i like it immensely

/turns on printer.

Feathermoore Rep

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:30 - 55

While its not that EotN is hard or elite, Eotn meant something to have to to be level20 to access. Not meant as a requirement to weed out the nublets from the area, but as a a requirement to satisify I've gotten to lvl20, I know what I'm doing, I've beaten the game[maybe]. I mean when you load up you jump straight to fightin level 20s, who area not always pushovers. It just seems natural that you'd limit access to lvl20s. And IMO EotN overall is harder than any of the three campaigns. Some of the Ring of Fire Missions and DoA missions are on the same level, but not the majority. If the average casual player, can walk through these missions without much help, maybe after dying a few times and getting to understand the mission, then okay they can go to EotN. But if not I don't think they should have access to Eotn AND get a boost to feel like they are level 20. Its like speeding up the leveling process and making them more powerfull, which both overshadow the amount of skill they have.
So yes and no, I'm under the impression that EotN is "high-end" content. How high is just a matter of judgement. However i think the lvl cap should remain lvl 20, if not to just give those players a reason to get to lvl 20 or finish one of the campaigns.

I understand that this is a promotional push for EotN as the sales for this expansion were down and the player base is down. As well as for other people who have all of those characters they never bothered to lvl to 20, I don't really if you have access. In fact I'm more suprised they aren't level20 already and you trying to get them to EotN. But whatever its just my two cents.

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

07 Dec 2007 at 17:31 - 56

As I said here:

Journey to the North - GW2 buddy system beta?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10229153

Either they just implemented it for the weekend or they are testing some GW2 companion/buddy system ideas already. Maybe some of you remember the GW2 ideas presented in the early interviews regarding GW and GWEN.

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

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07 Dec 2007 at 17:59 - 57

The real bummer is this:

The event, like Factions, Nightfall, or being run for max armor, for a newer inexperienced player, is a harsh blow to the community. If a low level player gets max armor/weapons and then goes and decimates a newbie area, as they can not easily die now and deal way more damage, they take these bad habits into high end areas at level 19-20, and have no clue how to play there class. They fail a mission, join a PUG to do it, and "noob it up" bad. This has been the trend of the PUG, circling the drain. Everyone wants max armor, weapons, and level at level 3, but I tell ya, the community has suffered from this. People do not learn the strengths and weakness of classes, how agro works, or how to function as a team, ect.ect.

I certainly hope that in GW2 armor/weapons/skills are tied to level, even tho the skins may change, since the game will be 1 massive PUG.

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:04 - 58

You people are looking at this in the wrong way.

This means lv 10's are going to be going out into Drakkar Lake, and Sparkfly Swamp, and the Warmdowns, and getting the utter shit kicked out of them. Forced to rely on the (sub par) intelligence of Heroes and Henchmen, their crippling inability to accomplish even the simplest quests will drive their nerd rage to previously unheard of levels.

I don't really know where I was going with that. I'm a sadistic bitch and just the thought of level 10's in Frostmaw's Burrow made me laugh so hard I about passed out. Enjoy.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:08 - 59

I don't care what level are going where, as long as who ever bring the low level buddy into the North better be taking care of them on quests and missions.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

07 Dec 2007 at 18:21 - 60

All I'm seeing is a marketing effort to get those that don't have a lvl 20 character (people new to GW in general) to buy GW:EN. Boost sales before the end of the year. It was originally marketed as an extension for those that had reached lvl 20 (high end?).

I don't see it affecting me, as all my characters are lvl 20, but it does seem to be another 'dumbing down' of the game.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:28 - 61

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

All I'm seeing is a marketing effort to get those that don't have a lvl 20 character (people new to GW in general) to buy GW:EN. Boost sales before the end of the year. It was originally marketed as an extension for those that had reached lvl 20 (high end?).

I don't see it affecting me, as all my characters are lvl 20, but it does seem to be another 'dumbing down' of the game.

How is it "dumbing" down? The whole Level 20 journey is a joke anyway.

I mean, I can get to level 20 in Factions easy, that doesn't mean I'm any more "ready" for GWEN than a 10th level character.

This is just another way to get people into the "real" game faster. Why is that a bad thing?

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

07 Dec 2007 at 18:31 - 62

I agree it's just marketing. They probably pulled up a spreadsheet that said X percent of characters aren't level 20 as an excuse for GW:EN not selling well... and here ya go. I think they're grasping at straws a bit as that is not likely the reason GW:EN didn't sell well, but marketers like to make up things like this when sales are bad.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

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Kyhlo

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:33 - 63

Unless they put new armor in the game....

RLBadKarma

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

SW Missouri USA

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:38 - 64

From the looks of the Wiki, all the changes have been made to cover the lvl 10 changes. It would appear that this is going to be a permanent thing.

Still no official word from the website yet.

I wonder if the buffs only apply when that under 20 lvl char is in GW:EN, and goes away when they return to the other areas?

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:41 - 65

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Originally Posted by RLBadKarma

I wonder if the buffs only apply when that under 20 lvl char is in GW:EN, and goes away when they return to the other areas?

Yes, according to wiki, you have to be in a GWEN map.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiki

Players who are between levels 10 and 19 and are in Eye of the North maps will automatically receive a buff called Journey to the North.

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:46 - 66

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I personally feel this is a complete and utter crock. Now we will have lvl10s running around GWEN (high end areas) locations asking to be run from location to location and to do quest and dungeons.

So? Its not like very many people PUG anymore, and those who do arent likely to take anyone under level 20 anywhere. It doesnt distract from anything, nor does it really affect anything either.

Restriction removal is a good thing, imho, though the Journey to the North buff I find somewhat odd. Good only for a Survivor and not needed for any other reason. The buff only makes sense to me if applied globally, instead of just for GWEN. Not a big deal though since there are many ways known for Survivors to reasonably safely get exp elsewhere and you arent level 20 all that long anyway, at which point the buff becomes moot. Either way I dont mind the buff though.

RLBadKarma

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

SW Missouri USA

The Northern Hoard

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07 Dec 2007 at 18:46 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Yes, according to wiki, you have to be in a GWEN map.

DOH!!! And I know I read that too.

(note to self: Stop playing with the primary braincell!!! It's not a toy.)

Airstu

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

BC, eh

Liars Cheats and thieves [liar]

07 Dec 2007 at 18:55 - 68

Welcome to another weekly whine.

On another note - Looks to me like they are testing the implementation of the buff to lower level characters to allow them to play with higher level ones in GW2.

Jensy

Site Contributor

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Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

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07 Dec 2007 at 19:03 - 69

What I'm not sure of here is why people think that *all* level 10-19's over in eotn are new players who've never taken a character to level 20 and finished a campaign. Hurr?

So answer me this, do you who are complaining about this manage to create a new level 20 character from the get go? Nope. You create a level 1, just like everyone else, and work them up to level 20.

Also, since when does being level 20 mean you're *good*? O_o You all read these forums, right? You see the builds that some people run, and the crackhead things they do. Being under level 20 means you're missing levels and att points. It means little else.

I seriously doubt this is a temporary change, mostly due to the buff, the weapon crafter and the armor dude. Not needed for a supposed '5 hour eotn open access for all' weekend.

Keep QQ-ing though, as it's so endlessly entertaining watching you whine.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

07 Dec 2007 at 19:12 - 70

I kinda have mixed feelings on it.

It kinda bugs me that Anet wants to make absolutely everything simple to get. Get to level 10, go to GW:EN, automatically gain 2 level 20 heros..GG.

But on the same note...it wasnt much different before. Have a friend/guildy with level 20 heros hold your hand to level 20...GG.

So I dunno. Kinda have a "Meh, whatever" feeling about it.

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

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07 Dec 2007 at 19:18 - 71

I originally thought this was just for the weekend and to let people try out GW:EN regardless if they have a lvl 20 character or not. What is the harm in allowing that and trying to boast their sales ? They are running a business which is actually a service and if you DO NOT have that customer base then what do you think will happen ?

There are so many endless gripes about this and that in this post it isn't even funny. Do you honestly think they care about a small let's say 10 % of players that are the " Elite " of gamers out there ? They do what they can to make people happy but you ARE NOT the one that is paying the bill and keeping the servers going. There was another poster who also pointed out they may be testing some things for GW 2 and that is a very good possibility.

I know if I had Gaile's job I would take about 95% of what I read here within these forums and dump it in the trash. But I guess the whinning also has a place in that they can at least see what the " LEET " kiddies are whinning about this week.

Aera Lure

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Mo/

07 Dec 2007 at 19:31 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airstu

On another note - Looks to me like they are testing the implementation of the buff to lower level characters to allow them to play with higher level ones in GW2.

Good observation. I'd originally have thought GW2 to be too different from GW to get any useful data about the system this way, but perhaps they can get anecdotal or general information on a test in this fashion, and my hunch says this is as much a part of it as any other reason.

RLBadKarma

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

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The Northern Hoard

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07 Dec 2007 at 19:35 - 73

It's official:

Try GW:EN for FIVE Hours – Even if You're Level 10!

Players who've secretly longed to try out the new Guild Wars: Eye of the North expansion, rejoice! This holiday season we're giving everyone a present: a five-hour trial of GW:EN! Plus, in the latest update we permanently lowered the level requirement for Eye of the North from 20 to 10 to make it easier than ever to enjoy the first true Guild Wars expansion. Think your character doesn't have what it takes? Think again. We now provide a buff to all characters level 10-19 to go toe-to-toe with the new content.

Official link:
http://www.guildwars.com/products/ey...al/default.php

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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07 Dec 2007 at 19:37 - 74

Maybe I'm retarded or something, but I cannot see one viable reason why someone without a level 10 character can or should care that level 10's can now get into Eye of the North. It simply does not affect you. You have the freedom of will to or to not let them in your group, and it doesn't change the gameplay in the least.

I wanted to say more, but that pretty much sums it up.

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

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07 Dec 2007 at 20:12 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I personally feel this is a complete and utter crock. Now we will have lvl10s running around GWEN (high end areas) locations asking to be run from location to location and to do quest and dungeons.

Learn to read, those lvl 10 will be maxed out in health and attribute points, they'll be no different from a real lvl 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Its hard enough finding PUGs in GWEN at times, we dont need lvl10-19s trying to join them when we need those spaces filled with max players who will actually be of use.

I personally feel this will just incourage people to use heroes and henches more because they will want to avoid all the now lvl 10s running around.

Refer to my previous answer

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

GWEN was meant to be a reward for max players, and now its just.... open to everyone!

No, you're wrong, the game is meant fo everyone who pays for it

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Wiki also stats that when someone under lvl20 enters GWEN it will increase their skill points to max level temporarily to compensate; so why bother? whats the point of leveling up if once you reach LA you can just run into GWEN and get those last attribute points.

And what's the difficulty on getting to lvl 20?, and btw if you're tyrian you'll still need to do the ascension to get those att points, if you want to play in other continents/chapters

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

So they have also killed the entire idea of leveling up! People will go into GWEN and not come back because they know they will loose that boost. Anet goes on about disliking dedicated farming...

The idea of leveling up is so 2005 (back when prophecies came out)
Why is factions so rushed up? Why is nightfall rushed too?
BECAUSE THE "REAL" PLAY BEGINS AT LVL 20!!
why would I bother to do every stupid 1k experience quest if I already been through it like 5 or 6 times, when people make a 2nd or 3rd character they want to be lvl 20, they don't care for being the right lvl at the right place

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

...has it occured to them that lvl10s will enter GWEN, get the boost and farm high end creatures!

Refer to the previous answer

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Basically I personally just hate the idea, because it kills the idea of GWEN being high end content and having a sort of reasurance that most players there have experience.

There's nothing such as "High End" content as you like to call it, there are "difficult" (well, actually, "Not so c-spacerbar")

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Also how does a lvl10 deserve to run around in high end armor or to own a destroyer weapon or prestige armor?

Oh!, you're right, because high end armor and destroyer weps are so game breaking!.... not
And I won't even get in the "high end armor" issue.

They theserve to have such items because they payed for the games.
I've seen lvl 10's wearing fow armor and frankly i don't RED ENGINE BLUE ENGINE YELLOW ENGINE PURPLE ENGINE care!!

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Someone please explain that to me!

That's what a lot of people have been trying to do since your stupid posts like the ones where you QQ about low lvls and consumables, the use of the asuran/norn effects outside GWEN, etc...

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

They do this, and yet they still restrict acess to the BMP to those who coughed up £17.99 on the online store! I realise Anet has this idea about making everything easily accesssed and keeping everyone happy... but they need to draw a line somewhere.

You snooze, you lose

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

GWEN should stay high end IMO.
I sometimes wonder about the logic behind some of their ideas!

yeah, i mean, snowman's lair HM takes 5 hours to do right?

sometimes i wonder about the logic behind your posts

well... to summarize everything i said:

STFU and go to play your kuzack mesma, and get to farm drawf and arusan points so you can get your High End Ultra Prestigious and Gamebreaking Armor and Gear

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

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Tha Skulls [Ts]

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07 Dec 2007 at 20:13 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by EinherjarMx

Learn to read, those lvl 10 will be maxed out in health and attribute points, they'll be no different from a real lvl 20

Yeah, they will. It's called skill pools dear.

max gladius

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07 Dec 2007 at 20:59 - 77

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You can't see me

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07 Dec 2007 at 21:02 - 78

My thoughts?

No worse than any of the other weekends we've had. PvP weekends are majorly FTL...

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

07 Dec 2007 at 21:17 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

It's called skill pools dear.

You can't assume lvl 20 equals a large skill pool, as it can also mean just out of newbie territory and barely obtained a capture signet.

You can't assume that lvl 10 equals a small skill pool, as it can also mean lot's of unlocks at the skill trainer and elites via tomes.

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07 Dec 2007 at 21:18 - 80

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