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Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

11 Dec 2007 at 01:48 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Double faction arena events are going to be a lot more popular now with the zaishen chest, thats for sure. The problem is that when I try to play a serious build, most of the time the rest of my team is a joke. And since I cant rage quit on mending wammos anymore I cant be bothered taking RA seriously.

u tuk RA srsly?

lolwut

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

11 Dec 2007 at 01:48 - 82

dishonered did ruin it, the true way to fix RA was to take out glad points from it

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 01:52 - 83

I would have agreed with you till this morning. Where I couldn't win a match, my builds weren't perfect but it was because of my teams. ALFKJDSALKDJFALK.

I'd get a team, where 2/4 people wouldn't have or use rez. Or not know what the hell is going on. Not interrupt or attack the right people. I'd face teams that have 1-2 monks on it when I had none. Teams that had anti melee and nothing I could do about it because remove hex on a warrior is silly.

Only way I could win is to keep failing till I got a monk on my team then by using an ele. Since the only way I can win in RA is if I use an ele and have a monk on my team. Most of the builds I used were spike builds, the mesmer one worked great but all my builds seem to depend on whether I get half decent people on my team or not.

I have the WORST luck ever when it comes to teams, seriously.

Kaelyn the Dove

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Chile

Rizen from the Ashes [Ra]

Me/

11 Dec 2007 at 02:02 - 84

Lol, RA is where you go to relax. That arena is so much rock, paper, scissors it's silly. BTW-funniest thing ever was running the hamstorm to mess around, and winning 10 consec matches. Even funnier was that my teammates actually thought it was a good bar.

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

11 Dec 2007 at 04:24 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I would have agreed with you till this morning. Where I couldn't win a match, my builds weren't perfect but it was because of my teams. ALFKJDSALKDJFALK.

I'd get a team, where 2/4 people wouldn't have or use rez. Or not know what the hell is going on. Not interrupt or attack the right people. I'd face teams that have 1-2 monks on it when I had none. Teams that had anti melee and nothing I could do about it because remove hex on a warrior is silly.

Only way I could win is to keep failing till I got a monk on my team then by using an ele. Since the only way I can win in RA is if I use an ele and have a monk on my team. Most of the builds I used were spike builds, the mesmer one worked great but all my builds seem to depend on whether I get half decent people on my team or not.

I have the WORST luck ever when it comes to teams, seriously.

I try to run a build which won't depends of healing to work. Not saying I can win many times without a Monk on my team for too long.

Like,when I used to play Assassin, which are squishies and melee. Either I ran a build with lots of protection, or I'd go asscasting and try to kill their Monk before they kill me.

What I don't do is to run a build with 5-attack chain, no heal, no condition removal and expect to be of any help.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

11 Dec 2007 at 04:29 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I would have agreed with you till this morning. Where I couldn't win a match, my builds weren't perfect but it was because of my teams. ALFKJDSALKDJFALK.

I'd get a team, where 2/4 people wouldn't have or use rez. Or not know what the hell is going on. Not interrupt or attack the right people. I'd face teams that have 1-2 monks on it when I had none. Teams that had anti melee and nothing I could do about it because remove hex on a warrior is silly.

Only way I could win is to keep failing till I got a monk on my team then by using an ele. Since the only way I can win in RA is if I use an ele and have a monk on my team. Most of the builds I used were spike builds, the mesmer one worked great but all my builds seem to depend on whether I get half decent people on my team or not.

I have the WORST luck ever when it comes to teams, seriously.

<3 RA people.

They are retarded aren't they? Makes you want to smash your head in a waffle iron or perhaps a bear trap. Depends on your mood (clinically insane vs committed)

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

11 Dec 2007 at 05:05 - 87

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethporlest18

I would have agreed with you till this morning. Where I couldn't win a match, my builds weren't perfect but it was because of my teams. ALFKJDSALKDJFALK.

I'd get a team, where 2/4 people wouldn't have or use rez. Or not know what the hell is going on. Not interrupt or attack the right people. I'd face teams that have 1-2 monks on it when I had none. Teams that had anti melee and nothing I could do about it because remove hex on a warrior is silly.

Only way I could win is to keep failing till I got a monk on my team then by using an ele. Since the only way I can win in RA is if I use an ele and have a monk on my team. Most of the builds I used were spike builds, the mesmer one worked great but all my builds seem to depend on whether I get half decent people on my team or not.

I have the WORST luck ever when it comes to teams, seriously.

happens to the best of us :P

was in RA today, got an ele with a level 10 lion pet, and me and the monk on our team (the only two normal people) simply PMed each other and laughed about how insanely ridiculus the guy was, especially after our tenth win when he said "i wish i could have 2 pets, then if one gets stuck on something like a rock, the other could go in behind him".

we thought it was a joke lol.

managed to get 27 wins though lol. me (conjure SA sin), pretty good ZB monk, and 2 nukers. the other nuker was like.. death bombing with GoS and meteor shower, so i could fly in, rip off their monk, and our matches were over (and flawless), in about 20-25 seconds :P

but yeah, happens all the time. sometimes people that play in there dont even know what the point is, or how to play it lol.

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

11 Dec 2007 at 05:07 - 88

Your All Baed Srsly

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

11 Dec 2007 at 05:11 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

Your All Baed Srsly

:P

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

11 Dec 2007 at 05:35 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

Your All Baed Srsly

troll much?

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garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 09:17 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

Your All Baed Srsly

You can go into RA with any class and win 10+? Right away? I would really like to know these solo 4 people builds.

Today was better, I went with W/P with spear attacks, got 2 monks on my team and won 13 in a row.

Then went after that, lost cause I had no monks. I cannot put Condition removal, hex removal and healing on that build because then it would gimp me beyond imagining.

I do not need a monk on my team, but if we do not have a monk my team needs to work together because if we don't we will lose. I know that in RA that's nearly impossible, but maybe if more people understood they'd try!

Also when using a warrior, if I come up against a mesmer/necro aimed at anti melee( HAPPENS OFTEN) and have no monk on my team, there's nothing I can do. I have to bend over and accept because nothing I could do would save me from that.

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

11 Dec 2007 at 09:38 - 92

I like ym lulz

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 10:13 - 93

i like ra when i don't get paired with the morons from amer/euro districts.

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

11 Dec 2007 at 10:44 - 94

i dislike RA simply because the other team seems to always have able players, while you are stuck with a paragon that uses necromancer skills, a warrior with frenzy + HS and a ele with a pet + all with no rez apart from you...or even worse - rebirth/resurrect

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 10:58 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle222

i dislike RA simply because the other team seems to always have able players

Me too. The other team will have a prot monk, a good mesmer, an assassin, and a dervish.

My team will have me (usually mesmer), a Wammo who thinks mending will save him, a half-decent ranger, and A FREAKING 55 MONK WHO CAN'T DO JACK

I think I've said all I wanted to say here.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

11 Dec 2007 at 11:13 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

The best teams have rangers- there are some really good rangers who RA.

Who aren't thumpers or packhunters.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 11:16 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by OI-812

Who aren't thumpers or packhunters.

Yup ^^ It's almost always the ranger that wins games in RA

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 11:26 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Yup ^^ It's almost always the ranger that wins games in RA

Yeah because aNet thought magerape shot was a fun skill and needed a buff ><. And people that are to stupid to hide behind an obstacle when they res teammates don't help much either.
You aren't going to res jack when you are standing next to a ranger with > 2 braincells.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 11:28 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Yeah because aNet thought magerape shot was a fun skill and needed a buff ><.

Lol I know right. It's even worse that terrible rangers are bound to hit something running mb/dshot/savage -_-

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

11 Dec 2007 at 11:28 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Yeah because aNet thought magerape shot was a fun skill and needed a buff ><.

[skill]Magebane Shot[/skill]

/fear it.

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 12:05 - 101

RA is sneaky anyways, you join a game to 'fool around' a bit and your opposing team consists of 1 player from Hand, 1 from vD
and some glad rank 9 guy that's glued to his PC 24/7. 'Innocent casual fun' my arse lololol. RA is like porn, in company of others, everyone shuns it and flames it. In practice they all play it.

I run into regular guru posters a lot too :P.

I D E L E T E D I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

[BAAA] guest me NOW

Mo/

11 Dec 2007 at 12:29 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

RA is sneaky anyways, you join a game to 'fool around' a bit and your opposing team consists of 1 player from Hand, 1 from vD
and some glad rank 9 guy that's glued to his PC 24/7. 'Innocent casual fun' my arse lololol. RA is like porn, in company of others, everyone shuns it and flames it. In practice they all play it.

I run into regular guru posters a lot too :P.

Dont expose everyone like that. You will make people cry

ON topic.
RA is fun when i have like 10 mins free. get my monk out and get myself a glad point or 3. Although when the team splits up into 3 different directions with me the monk standing in the middle having no clue who the hell to follow, i just die a little inside. But in the end its all just good fun and if i want to play serious pvp ill go gvg lol

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 12:35 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

Dont expose everyone like that. You will make people cry

For a daily payment of a decent amount of gold I might refrain from mentioning names ^^.

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

11 Dec 2007 at 13:00 - 104

People been playing RA "seriously" this week.

Ecklipze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/

11 Dec 2007 at 13:39 - 105

Old Magebane Shot > New Magebane Shot.

The old one actually rewarded skilled interuption, rather than hand out a lucky disable.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Dec 2007 at 13:42 - 106

Thy should change it to the Healing arena because the team with the most monks and Restoration rits always wins by griefing.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

11 Dec 2007 at 14:32 - 107

It's been a while since I did RA but I hopped on last night to get some faction for keys and had a really good time. Most of the teams I got on were decent. There was no raging, no griefing, no taunts. Generally, really good sportsmanship all around. I was amazed.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 14:34 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

Thy should change it to the Healing arena because the team with the most monks and Restoration rits always wins by griefing.

I don't think I've ever not been able to wipe a team of 2-3 healers with a decent team. However it is ridiculous that if you're paired with 2-3 other healers as a healer yourself that you can just sit there spamming guardian for 9 minutes and ruin another team's streak. Fortunately, most people just refuse to be a part of it and let you kill them or leave. ANet need to look into this, for sure.

Also it's funny how people think monk = auto win; gank monk + interrupts on res and shutdown = win.

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 14:38 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

I don't think I've ever not been able to wipe a team of 2-3 healers with a decent team. However it is ridiculous that if you're paired with 2-3 other healers as a healer yourself that you can just sit there spamming guardian for 9 minutes and ruin another team's streak. Fortunately, most people just refuse to be a part of it and let you kill them or leave. ANet need to look into this, for sure.

Also it's funny how people think monk = auto win; gank monk + interrupts on res and shutdown = win.

Fun, like yesterday, we had 3 warriors and 1 ranger. Poor monk couldn't deal with all the damage. It was an awesome match anyways because the opposing team had a monk and 3 warriors. Lots of deaths and close violence make for good matches.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Dec 2007 at 14:40 - 110

Why should I be forced to wait 8 minutes because no one will resign? It's poor design to punish people for refusing to endure 8 minutes of spamming heals for an inevitible draw.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 16:16 - 111

I love it as well

It is the only place you can run an Assassin / Warrior with a sword and shield. And while your team dies and you get the constant f’ing Noob sin with a sword pings. Which slowly change during the match to OMG he is killing them all. While I take out 3 opponents at the same time with easily removable enchantments, poison and bleeding. For gods sake people bring condition removal / enchantment removal / and Rez signets.

Lorde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

CCCP

R/E

11 Dec 2007 at 16:47 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

I love it as well

It is the only place you can run an Assassin / Warrior with a sword and shield. And while your team dies and you get the constant f’ing Noob sin with a sword pings. Which slowly change during the match to OMG he is killing them all. While I take out 3 opponents at the same time with easily removable enchantments, poison and bleeding. For gods sake people bring condition removal / enchantment removal / and Rez signets.

There is a undeniable place for creativity on RA. While I will not say a original build will assure success, its often enough to award a glad point.

I see 2 teams who wins RA.. one is the Monk/Utility/DPSx2 and the other is a bizarre mix of skilled players which people just don't know how to beat.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

11 Dec 2007 at 16:47 - 113

I got 7 glad points this morning amazingly. I also entered battle without fixing any of my ele's skills and won 2 rounds.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

11 Dec 2007 at 17:38 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

Why should I be forced to wait 8 minutes because no one will resign? It's poor design to punish people for refusing to endure 8 minutes of spamming heals for an inevitible draw.

Right... apparently you missed the update when they added that 8 miniute timer. 8 miniutes is not that long for a fight in GW. GvGs go much longer then that, and the old RA system had no timer (so you often ran into runners and "invincible" builds that could survive for 50 miniutes plus).

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

11 Dec 2007 at 17:43 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Right... apparently you missed the update when they added that 8 miniute timer. 8 miniutes is not that long for a fight in GW. GvGs go much longer then that, and the old RA system had no timer (so you often ran into runners and "invincible" builds that could survive for 50 miniutes plus).

Right... apparently you forgot about the dishonorable system. Before, if someone was griefing, you could quit and get on with life. Now you are forced to wait or face a punishment. 8 mins is a long time when you are doing nothing.

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

11 Dec 2007 at 17:44 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

their health drops like a thai hooker

Elaborate, plox.

TimTimTimma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Indianapolis

krazy Guild with Krazzzzy People [krzy]

Mo/

11 Dec 2007 at 18:10 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

I used to enjoy playing RA untill dishonour ruined it. Now it isnt fun unless I play monk all the time. You ever tried playing a mesmer in an RA team with no monk? Its the single worst experience in the whole game.

AMEN TO THAT! There is nothing worse than being a Mesmer in RA with no monk. And even when you do get a monk you are usually still the primary target. Mesmers receive so.... much hate.

On another note, I enjoy RA ALOT MORE now that the caster sin was smacked with the nerf stick.

Also, about the comment about having the most healers wins. I have found after playing for two years that the more monks you have the LESS chance you have of winning. Due to the fact that none of the monks play like there is another monk, everyone over heals everyone, everyone burns their energy, everyone dies, because no one trusts the other 2-3 monks. I can honestly say I have never been able to force a draw with 4 monks or even force a team to rage quit with 4 monks, just doesn't happen.

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 18:19 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimTimTimma

AMEN TO THAT! There is nothing worse than being a Mesmer in RA with no monk. And even when you do get a monk you are usually still the primary target. Mesmers receive so.... much hate.

It's beause they can give the same hate too, and mesmers have some viable self heals, go /A and bring feigned neutrality and dash and you'll find yourself a lot more durable. /Mo with restful breeze is also decent. When people are coming for you you can often use it against them, try and lure them to your backline and spike them for example works pretty well against slap happy stompers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimTimTimma

On another note, I enjoy RA ALOT MORE now that the caster sin was smacked with the nerf stick.

QFT, I moved to AB because every team had 1 or more in them.

Ulterion

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2007

defiinitely noyb

Mo/

11 Dec 2007 at 18:38 - 119

RA FTL. Dishonor and gladiator point scale change ruined it bigtime! It's widely known by all experienced players that the key to success is "balance". Yea, I know, I know it's "Random Arena"... it's supposed to be "random" that way... and yet the fact STILL remains that a team without a proficient healer (i.e.: Mo/Any, Rt/Any, N/Rt, etc.) = FAILURE (unless u have a team of "R/P HaO's" or anything that shares a similar "self-healing" likeness). But if you have four players that have 50% of their build focused on defense and you get a monk as the fourth team member, you're now looking at a stalled match (or stalemate). RA FTL. My advice: TA (on Vent/TS = FTW). PvP will never be the same again... =/

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

11 Dec 2007 at 18:42 - 120

TA isn't exactly beginner-friendly, that's a con about it. AB has this dreaded waits. RA isn't that bad. Without people leaving all the time I feel like my time there is 100% more well spent, even if I lose, I get to play. GW needs scrub arena's or it will run out of PvP-ers.