[Dev Update] Exploits and Bans – 10 January 2008

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Why should anet learn from their mistakes? It is YOU who should. There was an outpost they use for testing, and you found it, congrats. You got banned, and came to guru to QQ. Stop acting like anet are crying over this as badly are you are.

Please read my post again. NOBODY EVER TOUCHED ANY FILE. It was the SAME as ANY OTHER FERRY.

If you commit a crime, and aren't caught untill 6 months, or a year later you are still going to be tried and, if found guilty, sentenced. Breaching a Eula, like murder, has no statute of limitations. It does not matter when you transgressed, just that you did.

Anet, apparently, is not Jesus and does not forgive.

i agree with you, but then you have to understand things like this go on every day in gw and no one gets banned, but in the end it is thier game and thats all that matters.

That doesn't really matter, those mobs take around 30 minutes for a good team to take care. That is not the grueling part. The grueling part is having to go through the other areas to even get to the area where you fight the mobs then fight Mallyx. You skipped the longest part of DoA.


Yes I understand that, but if ANet were to ban players everytime they used an exploit there would be hardly any players left. I am sure every single person has used an exploit in the game at one point or another. The point is IF Anet were to revert the bans more and more people would use exploits and newer and more serious ones would be found. It would be a never ending circle.

The problem with you all trying to take your case public is that you are making an argument based on the fact that you abused an exploit and got caught.

Simple question that will tell you wether or not you were taking advantage of something that wasn't supposed to be there:

Where else in the game are you able to map to an outpost that will take you DIRECTLY (as in no quests, no fighting your way there, no downtime, no nothing just go and fight the end boss for your reward) to the final end area boss by pressing one button? When you can actually give an answer that isn't "None" the community might be more inclined to listen to you all.

lol - so they have no intention of fixing any exploit until it is used?

Let's lock the barn door after the horse is gone.

Ok, well, ya gotta do something weird to get there. Just like duping, they had to dc and shit.

Hack or exploit, I don't care. People who exploited the dopple bug were banned too, no hacks involved there. This is obviously a lot more serious as the economy is involved and players were acccessing an outpost that was never meant to be available through normal gameplay.

Lies or not, *shrug*. Maybe some hack to access it, maybe others didn't. End of the day it was an exploit no matter how you look at it.

Thats a good point to bring up. Ive said before, the extent of the punishment matters on HOW MANY PLAYERS DO IT, as well as the effects of the exploit.

However, Ferrying to Urgoz/Deep has always been part of the mechanic of owning a town. And once you get there you STILL have to beat the area to get the reward.

Consulate docks armor does nothing but give you max armor. You cannot SKIP anything, since the mission will not let you in.

The mallyx one lets you repeatedly beat mallyx without doing the prerequisite quests. This is a rather BIG difference with those other ferrying exploits.

useing the same bar every time does not make you a better player in fact in hinders you game play. as well as FFF all you do is 2 min runs the same way each time for however long you want to be on the only thing is you get to type but you are still doing the same thing day in and day out which does not make you a better player it makes you a bad one.

As for the community are you talking about the GW community or the Guilds and alliance communitys? and I agree that nothing is better then a common goal. but trying to put in FFF guilds as leaders of the GW world just because the own a town is a insult to all the guilds that help people be it PvE or PvP.

Frankly, if Pablo says it was not a hack and could happen by accident, that settles it for me. He has almost always been right about exploits in the past.

nope nothing strange, to obtain the town all you had to do was map to your guild hall after doimg mallys the first time. and once you hit G and leave guild hall you go to the town

Anet makes mistakes all the time. Fact is they will never admit being wrong, because that would call their credibility into question. However, its human nature to make mistakes. Someone who says "I never make a mistake" is not only lying to others, but sadly to themself. that kind of behavior still calls their credibility into question.

Several people have already described how the trick was done. The mechanics of the Mallyx trick is no different then ferrying someone from your guild hall to Urgoz. Whats the point of posting it another time, if people are not willing to read it the first time?

Yes I understand that, but if ANet were to ban players everytime they used an exploit there would be hardly any players left. I am sure every single person has used an exploit in the game at one point or another. The point is IF Anet were to revert the bans more and more people would use exploits and newer and more serious ones would be found. It would be a never ending circle.[/QUOTE]

yup the maj woulda been alot safer if this thing had gone public. but shiznit happens right? lol

Please click link and read my post .. hate when people are uninformed. Nothing had to be done to be able to ferry there. Just all four quests complete then map to gh after entering mallyx. AKA a standard FERRY used throughout the game.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...242767&page=43

Also i bet there are people who acidently found the town and never told a sole who are now banned. its a carpet FTL

yup the maj woulda been alot safer if this thing had gone public. but shiznit happens right? lol[/QUOTE] not everyone in game has used one they don't hear about them because people try not to let them leak out

^^ not none m8 - did you hear about the duncan glitch that literaly 10's of thousands of people were running in and out. Different story there wasn't it?

While the mechanical aspect of it is the same, the outpost is not. One is a legit outpost that every player can access. One is an outpost that was only ever ment for developer access. So these are equal again how???