The Xunlai Marketplace thread

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Any trade system that requires the players to run back and forth between people congesting the streets of a town sucks. It Sucked in ROSE, it sucks in Shaiya, it just sucks. The XMP is way better.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
In all fairness, it IS better than what we have.
Comparing time/cost to implement it and its value, its not better.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
In all fairness, it IS better than what we have.
It is still a lot worse than our hypothetical XMP thou.

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

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29 pages eh? Me thinks Anet doth protest not enough...

c wat i did thar?

xmancho1

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

Bulgaria

Laolin Team [ETA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
In all fairness, it IS better than what we have.
Why its better ? The only plus it has is that u can put more items than u can write in trade channel in one message. What we need is an Auction House type of trade system , not any stupid and laggy stalls.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Stalls would be better than what we have now, since they would allow AFK selling, but the Xunlai Marketplace we can suspect with the 'gathered data' during those GW.dat browsings would be better than stalls, since it would allow selling while playing.

Officer Dick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

since we have limited ppl per district and all that, a stall system would not be that great, altough anything is better then nothing...
in lineage 2 for example, they have that system too, but everyone that comes in the city can see your stall, not only the ppl in the district. It is a nice system, but there are many other better systems that could be implemented...
the only difference between what we have and the stall system is that we can go afk, which is pretty much all i need to get rid of what ive been saving XD

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Not compared to the 2 hours that usually takes selling things right now.

It's not wasted time.
It is still time wasted, the difference is the amount of time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
One thing you MUST remember is that items 'real value' is the value Merchants (not traders) pay for them.
Everything else is vallue added by players.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to that. Most players would disagree; however. A simple example is the difference in price u get between the trader and the merchant for rare materials, anyone sold an ecto to the merchant lately?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Again, for me, Crystal Swords worth nothing, and other skins like Shinobi Sword Oni Sword or Jittes are worth much more for me.
Again a matter of opinion.


Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
If you see other game's auction systems, peope can set 'direct sell' prices on them too, and make exactly what you say Direct Sales do.
Even in eBay you can set such prices.

It's called a 'sale'. You lose gold to get faster gold.
True, but direct sales are optional in the auction system. You can CHOOSE to wait and see how high your items will go in a bidding fest, or OPT to sell directly for a lesser price.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Yup, that's why auctions should not be allowed, otherwise someone may feel the temptation to use them.

That would be bad.

Officer Dick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

wow, this thread seems to be here for waaay too long without a dev stopping by... either they want to surprise us, or they are not sure if it is going to exist or not themselves...

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Well for a little bit, i've forgotten about this whole thing.
Now I crave info

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Well for a little bit, i've forgotten about this whole thing.
Now I crave info
There is none,and will never be...

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

i merched all my golds and upgrades before deleteing one of my PvP/Mule chars, so sods law says this will come now.

At least now i have a few k rather than a load of crap in bags

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

No info yet because it was all rumors. Just something to get us excited for a while.

The trade system and the economy in GW are dead and have been dead for a while. No XMP rumors are going to fix that.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

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Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I guess i shoulda put Answers instead of Info

pamelf

pamelf

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

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I'm still hoping something is going to happen with this. If it isn't, I think it's bad form of Anet not immediately putting the rumors to rest.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I'm very interested in this, and hope it happens, soon. It might get me to come back to the game for more than a nanosecond.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Well, with every update an in each event I wait for something new about this...

It's alll "Maybe in the birthday", "Maybe next event", "maybe after summer", "maybe..."...

It would be easier if we knew for sure if something like this is real or not.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Well, with every update an in each event I wait for something new about this...

It's alll "Maybe in the birthday", "Maybe next event", "maybe after summer", "maybe..."...

It would be easier if we knew for sure if something like this is real or not.
It would definitely give people something to look forward to.

Esan

Esan

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Why is this ridiculous thread still kept open?

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
Why is this ridiculous thread still kept open?
Why do you bump it?

Solas

Solas

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Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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Any confirmation yet?

Jade

Jade

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Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esan
Why is this ridiculous thread still kept open?

Quoted For Truth.

I MP I

I MP I

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Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

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Took a screen shot of the conversation on March 5th 2008. XMP = Xunlai Market Place. It is just a rumor. Translation: not likely to be implemented imo.

Vazze

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rumor, sure. The coders at anet are so bored that they started coding rumors into gw.dat (and deleting them ... after a certain guru thread was getting too popular).

KycooGhost

KycooGhost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Children of Legends [LGND]

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is it possible that the coders put it in for Utopia, which is now EotN and GW2, and than when the project was changed they didn't take it out right away? Could we expect this to be in GW2?

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

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Anyone played lineage II? A Trade system like that would be nice

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Took a screen shot of the conversation on March 5th 2008. XMP = Xunlai Market Place. It is just a rumor. Translation: not likely to be implemented imo.
I disagree with your assessment. IMO, she's playing coy as usual, because either she isn't being told anything or isn't being allowed to confirm or deny anything. I think there IS some story there, but Anet isn't ready to talk about it. It could also be that they are ignoring it in hopes that the subject will simply die.

MoriaOrc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
I disagree with your assessment. IMO, she's playing coy as usual, because either she isn't being told anything or isn't being allowed to confirm or deny anything. I think there IS some story there, but Anet isn't ready to talk about it. It could also be that they are ignoring it in hopes that the subject will simply die.
The quickest way to kill this topic is a clear "XMP was a canceled project that will never be implemented in the game." Since they, for whatever reason, don't want to say that, it's got to be either "Gaile doesn't know" or "Still a maybe."

fenix

fenix

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Hahahaha, Gaile's quote; "It's just a rumor AT THE MOMENT"

But yeah, she either doesn't know or won't say. The XMP isn't a cancelled project, it's something they have been developing they someone chanced across because their .dat file has ZERO encryption, so they removed it to keep their big dumb secret...a secret.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Hahahaha, Gaile's quote; "It's just a rumor AT THE MOMENT"
Well, i'm not sure, but I think it was the way I worded the question.

I think I asked, "is the XMP still a rumor at the moment?".

There was like 5 other people there at the time, was surprized someone logged that part.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

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Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Anyone played lineage II? A Trade system like that would be nice
A town filled with tons of player-created buy&sell stalls?

Yeah, it's nice, in a primitive, lagfest, clicking around forever looking for something kind of way.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

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Do you nay-sayers really think that it wouldn't have been denied by now if it wasn't being worked on?

It may never get developed to a point where we actually see it, but it is being worked on. If it wasn't, Gaile would have said so. She hasn't denied it because she's been caught denying things in the past that she was incorrect on and her credibility is on thin ice as a result. A-Net doesn't want to see her take another shot over this, so the official comment is basically "no comment."

xshadowwolfx

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

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I don't particularly mind either way but its not going to happen anytime soon. Much rather they work on mini expansions, holidays, mini games, and skins =P

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

I'd trade every forthcoming festival, third year mini's and new weapon skins for the XMP. Something of substance beats tat, IMO.

Amnel Ithtirsol

Amnel Ithtirsol

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Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
I'd trade every forthcoming festival, third year mini's and new weapon skins for the XMP. Something of substance beats tat, IMO.
I have to agree!

Mattman243

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Four Star Christian Force

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
I'd trade every forthcoming festival, third year mini's and new weapon skins for the XMP. Something of substance beats tat, IMO.
Same here, I have to agree with that!

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Hahahaha, Gaile's quote; "It's just a rumor AT THE MOMENT"

But yeah, she either doesn't know or won't say. The XMP isn't a cancelled project, it's something they have been developing they someone chanced across because their .dat file has ZERO encryption, so they removed it to keep their big dumb secret...a secret.
priceless quote!

Not all projects make it into the game though.

But given the fact that it is (or was?) already in the GW.DAT, maybe we can expect a "surprise" for GW's 3rd birthday.

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Got to love how witty our GMs are, they sure got a laugh out of all the pointless predicting you guys made. Seriously you thought you outwitted them just to get shown how dim witted you truly are. Maybe next time you wont make such and uproar about no solid evidence.

P.S.
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Mork from Ork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
I'd trade every forthcoming festival, third year mini's and new weapon skins for the XMP. Something of substance beats tat, IMO.
The trade system is the absolutely worst aspect of this game. Knowing they were releasing a tremendous amount of skins over but time not including a workable trade system was a huge mistake. Should have been put in before beta release and waiting three years is a joke.