Mini Pig Woes...

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

its not that we want the pigs we gave away back its more than we did something NICE by giving them away...and now we find that if we werent nice and hoarded them we could get something for them...as has been said the moral is to not be nice, and hoard everything.
I am not unhappy that I gave a bunch of my pigs away...and if the 'surprise' is something I neither want nor can get due to my generosity then I will probably just dedicate the rest of my sty and pitch'em in the trash.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
plus, i was pointing at the part that ANet could have cut&paste the event and flooded the market with simple pigs again
To show the world that they're LAZY and use "Year of the pig" celebration in the "Year of the rat"? You think this is how a game company ensures the FUTURE OF THEIR COMPANY?

I don't think so.

I dare Anet to stop with every single event from now on and just focus on GW2, see how this community will DIE painfully (And tainted GW2 indefinitely).

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma

I dare Anet to stop with every single event from now on and just focus on GW2, see how this community will DIE painfully (And tainted GW2 indefinitely).
This is my thoughts as well. True they don't have to do events but that would really piss off the community and as a business they want to keep us happy so we con tinue to buy their future products.

Sir Seifus Halbred

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
All those people we gave them to are selling them for...get this... 100k! 100K! WTF?
They may be a few trying to sell for 100k, but do you honestly think many if any will pay that much? The average price i see for the pig is 5-7k and 15-25k if the person is lucky.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
No, I am complaining because I gave a lot of these away out of the kindness of my heart only to now have to buy one from someone for some outrageous price so I can have one again for this collector. I don't regret giving them away, but I do regret that the people I gave them too are now becoming obscenely rich off of a simple gift from the heart. I give, and then get more taken away. I think you missed the point. ANET shouldn't make the mini pig a requirement to get the new mini from the collector. It isn't fair to those that gave away their mini pigs to those that didn't have one.
Ummm yes you are complaining...

Why did you make this thread then?

PinoyRurik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

PNAS

W/Mo

A.net should just reset the GW games back to the way they were.. then leave us all alone......

GreatBabai

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

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Considiring huge amount of pigs released last year, i think that new mysterious mini will be not so rare one. Something like 50.000-100,000 pets or even more... ( Suppose that there was ~500.000-1000.000 pigs released initially. Some was destroyed, some still keeped in collections. So even if only 100.000-200.000 of them will be converted at a 5x rate, we ll get at least 20.000 of them, and probably much more)
So after all dust settles and novelty wears off it will be in price range of Destroyer/Ceratadon/Asura ets.
Imo celesial rat will be much rarer because anet will definitely screw drop rate.

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I give away all my pigs (~10) long ago and don't even bother to re-buy them now. It will be much easier to just trade that pet after weekend for a modest sum of cash.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

It's not a case of how rare or valuable it is, it's a simple case that the people that gave them away for free are now screwed out of a new mini or 25k+

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
Ah great maths, and from what i've seen of your posts on Guru you strike me as the sort of person that would never give anything without ulterior motive
They are great maths.

Malice is correct.

To be quite honest, who the hell cares if you gave them away.
Be content with the knowledge that at the time, you were charitable, and as a result, in this instance the better person for that charity.

I mean, seriously people. I was generally pleased with the Guild Wars players who were generous at the time, and was rather impressed. Now this whole thread and the mindset behind it is pathetic.

Mind you, I gave away around 20 pigs and have not purchased any since

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Well if you don't care about minis one way or another, you have nothing to gain from this thread (and the whole mini-"were you selfish enough last year"-pet thing).

Angelica

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
This is odd. Very odd. Can a gaming company really lack this much foresight?

Even moreso with this 2-12 thing. As said, who would seriously keep more than one?
^^ Agree!
I kept one because I like the little thing and gave away all the others ... free.
I do not regret doing so but I find the rate of exchange a bit weird.
Plus I really don't care "much" about mimi-pets!

/Angelica

Kerwyn Nasilan

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Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
because we feel we deserve something back for all we gave big ----ing deal

Can i also mention i believe the OP is the creator of the GW Oktoberfest, the biggest ingame give away there is made by the community
I think Malice is aware of that, Malice knows alot more than you think
I guess I'll have to farm and try to buy 2 more mini pigs, 3 seems like a good amount. Personally I think it should be 1 pig for new mini but well, I'm not A-net. Gaile said it would not be that rare of a pet so I'm hoping on that. Also what does everybody think the "Special" end item is. My vote is on everlasting rat tonic . Or a new skill Raten Blessing

EDIT: "there is made"? GRAMMARTIME!

katherinetheblood

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Join Date: Aug 2007

Highland Tsunami [HT]

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Here is my question, if everyone is so against selling mini pigs, why are the prices going up? If you love your mini pig, don't give in. Anet will learn its lesson. Its like treating a spoiled 2 year old, if you dont give them what it wants, it will scream for a while then learn who is in charge. Gamers don't HAVE to do every feature. Soon enough...they will see it doesn't work and burn it. Then there will be a flood of mini rats and piggies and the 5 shall be pleased. I just cant wait for 4 years from now, Year of the Dragon shall be wonderful. *smiles*

Legion Magnus

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Legion Magnus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
reminds me.. looks like i can delete my jade wind orbs for good?

(and what about those victory tokens?)
I still have 4 stacks of JWOs on a char myself.

Note, they dropped during the Dragon Festival (July 2006) not the Canthan New year, so who knows ...

But I would be willing to trade all of them for SOMEONE's mini polar bear

Celestial_Kitsune

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

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Here is a suggestion:

Make either one collector with several possible trades or three collectors each specializing either in pigs, lunar or victory tokens.

Special Collector

Item: "Celestial Surprise"
Collecting:
- "More than two, less than a dozen" (three would be nice) Minipigs
- 250 Lunar Tokens
- 250 Victory Tokens

tmakinen

tmakinen

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Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

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You'll get in average one pig out of each stack of Lunar Fortunes (year of the pig). Yesterday I spied a herd of pigs and stacks of fortunes that I had pushed off to a mule account and properly forgotten. After burning the stacks I'm now in possession of 14 critters and thus covered my derriere concerning the collector but I still think that the way this pig-sink was implemented was less than optimal, even technically ineffective because the originally fairly localized ensemble has since then dispersed among the larger population and depending on the exact amount needed for a trade not too many people may be able to meet it.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Hey Rajah, the greatest mistake we do is thinking that A.net can deal sensibly and rationally with the community.

This is an epic fail, A.net behave towards their customers like this:



A.net order "Dance!" and we all have to dance, "Sit down!" and we all have to sit down, "Run in circle!" and we all have to.

This happened for the BMP: "Buy now from the shop or you'll never get it later!" and people spent 30$ even for something useless to get it.
Like dogs in a circus.
(Just to clarify my position, I strongly fought to have the BMP sold separately since the beginning, and despite this I will never buy it because I cannot reward A.net for the horrible way they managed the whole thing).

Some weeks ago I proposed to create some new titles obtainable fighting somewhere, so that those trying to achieve GWAMM could have some challenging title, and not spend endless hours farming margoyles like idiots to get sweet, booze and crap like these.
Yay, they introduced a new title, and guess which one? Another farming title LOL!


Every time we expect that A.net does something sensible and reasonable, we fail.

But if you stop and think, you'll realize that they behave towards their customers in the correct way.

Why? Because sensible people don't play videogames.
So, A.net -correctly- can't be expected to address the requests of sensible people.

Madness? .... This is A.NEEEEEEET!!!

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

To all those that think I posted this because I am greedy...

Yes, I am SOOO greedy.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ascal...asquerade_Ball

Albeit I didn't host this one, I created it.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Oktoberfest


CLEARLY greed is my main issue. Go crawl in some hole you naysayers. This thread was created because some of the really generous people who were not greedy and were nothing but kind and giving are really getting boned here. We don't even have an opportunity to get one. I am impoverished since Oktoberfest ended. I used what little wealth I had left and donated it to LaZy for the event. I managed to get a few friends to help me get some armors and stuff in EotN. Now they are broke as well. This little setup is somehow fair? I am not one to QQ on this forum unless something is very wrong, and something is VERY WRONG with this setup.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
And tainted GW2 indefinitely.
They already have. I've already decided not to pre-order GW2 due to decisions in GW, and no, it's got nothing to do with any minipets like the pig (very minor annoyance that anet is price-fixing the minipig; mainly it is hard to avoid the suspicion they're doing this on behalf of someone) or the polar bear (no annoyance at all), or even how ANet handles events (great, except for the information to the players). EDIT: Oh and seriously - complaining about the BMP? You, like me, got something for free for buying GW:EN. Now people have to pay $10 for the same thing. If THEY, the people who have to pay, were complaining, then I'd understand it, but complaining about getting something for free?!

No, the reason I wont be preordering is to do with changing the whole philosophy of GW from "skill over time" to "time over skill". I don't like it, and if it, as I suspect, is indicative of GW2, then I guess it's time for me to go back to playing FPS's.

Friday

Friday

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

[DVDF]

Rajah - those of us who know you, and know where you stand on this game, understand exactly what you are saying.

BUT there a a lot of people here who troll for the hell of it just to create dissension, there are those who trash anyone who happens to have a different opinion to theirs, there are those that are self-proclaimed "experts' on every aspect of GW and will slag anyone who does not agree with them, there are those who like to simply flame others in a negative way as it makes them feel better about themselves, and then of course you get the fanbois who will hear no wrong about Arena Net.

Unfortunately the above listed people seem to be in the majority now, and any sensible discussion of topics like this always degenerate into flaming or QQing. As some love to say here, we have to just "deal with it".

/salute to someone who truly does have the essence of the game and the community at heart.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

Although I can only speak for my alliance, we did'nt allow thousands of people to get pigs last year because we ever expected anything back or in return so the requirement for multiple pigs for this new pet does'nt feel like a slap in the face.

I would also hope other guilds and alliances who helped people get pigs last year feel the same.

I would hope there is some other way of getting pigs/rats and I trust Anet would'nt be as silly as to exclude the players who had no chance of ever getting enough pigs to join in. We'll see.

John Ebridge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Amsterdam

The Myth Of Phoenix [Myth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
I would also hope other guilds and alliances who helped people get pigs last year feel the same.
I could not agree more.

@Friday

Luckally there are a lot of people who do have the essence of the game and the community at heart, unfortunately they are a lot less vocal.

tmakinen

tmakinen

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I believe that the main issue here is again about ANet moving goal posts.

Anet representatives have stated that they like to shake things up every now and then, and on the PvP side this is a desirable thing to prevent the gameplay from getting stuck to a couple of FotM builds. On the PvE side the effects are more contentious. Let's consider, e.g., FoW armor. It takes a lot of effort to acquire but the amount of effort is fixed and well known so that people can judge whether they want to pursue it or not, and that's the way it should be. Imagine the QQ if Anet decided to 'shake things up a bit' and changed the requirements for FoW armor from ectos and shards to bones and glittering dust. Or, added a collector for tattered capes (useless item that hasn't spawned since early days of Prophecies) who trades the cape to a stack of ecto. These kinds of arbitrary decisions to grossly re/devaluate certain items don't make PvE exciting or dynamic, just irritating, especially if it benefits a small subset of players at the expense of everybody else.

However, I don't believe that these kinds of upheavals will taint GW2 through HoM inheritance. If the mechanism works as I've predicted, the rewards are pretty mundane and cosmetic. Like with minis, no matter what you put on the pedestal, as long as there are at least 20 minis you'll get a single mini in GW2, the exactly same mini for everybody regardless of whether your collection is one of kanaxais and polar bears or wallows and devourers. With current prices it is pretty easy to gather enough common minis to meet the goal as well, so don't fret over one missed mini here or there.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmakinen
However, I don't believe that these kinds of upheavals will taint GW2 through HoM inheritance. If the mechanism works as I've predicted, the rewards are pretty mundane and cosmetic. Like with minis, no matter what you put on the pedestal, as long as there are at least 20 minis you'll get a single mini in GW2, the exactly same mini for everybody regardless of whether your collection is one of kanaxais and polar bears or wallows and devourers. With current prices it is pretty easy to gather enough common minis to meet the goal as well, so don't fret over one missed mini here or there.
Don't underestimate anet on this kind of things - there is huge chance of screwing up.

Also, forum QQ is gonna be ... BIG regardless of what they would do (well, they can release correct info long time before it takes into effect to allow flames extinguish themselves by the time it is released ...).

Should "elite" pet collector see that his unique collection gives the same result as ordinary joes white collection, it is not going to be pretty.

Ditto, vice versa.

Lots of people are going to feel "slap in face" when they see how their hom was rewarded compared to someone elses. And that being only cosmetic reward is gonna be small issue for them.

Not pretty.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

I seem to remember Gayle last year incuraging people to give away pig's when they had more than one, because lot's of people didn't get any for one reason or another.

The whole idea of giving anything to people who decided to keep more than one seems just wrong to me.

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmakinen
I believe that the main issue here is again about ANet moving goal posts.

Anet representatives have stated that they like to shake things up every now and then, and on the PvP side this is a desirable thing to prevent the gameplay from getting stuck to a couple of FotM builds. On the PvE side the effects are more contentious. Let's consider, e.g., FoW armor. It takes a lot of effort to acquire but the amount of effort is fixed and well known so that people can judge whether they want to pursue it or not, and that's the way it should be. Imagine the QQ if Anet decided to 'shake things up a bit' and changed the requirements for FoW armor from ectos and shards to bones and glittering dust. Or, added a collector for tattered capes (useless item that hasn't spawned since early days of Prophecies) who trades the cape to a stack of ecto. These kinds of arbitrary decisions to grossly re/devaluate certain items don't make PvE exciting or dynamic, just irritating, especially if it benefits a small subset of players at the expense of everybody else.

However, I don't believe that these kinds of upheavals will taint GW2 through HoM inheritance. If the mechanism works as I've predicted, the rewards are pretty mundane and cosmetic. Like with minis, no matter what you put on the pedestal, as long as there are at least 20 minis you'll get a single mini in GW2, the exactly same mini for everybody regardless of whether your collection is one of kanaxais and polar bears or wallows and devourers. With current prices it is pretty easy to gather enough common minis to meet the goal as well, so don't fret over one missed mini here or there.
I really do not understand why people are getting upset. It is hard to do anything semi-interesting without changing the value of this or that item. People who stocked up on fireworks now get a benefit. People who used them or gave them away missed an opportunity because the value of those items have now increased.

Anet didn't do this to "get" anyone or "hurt" anyone or to "spite" the community. Over time, most items gradually lose their rarity and become cheaper. Items that can only be acquired once or are released in limited quantities often gain value over time.

Yes, if you could get FOW armor with dust and bones, that would be a problem. Is this change even remotely comparable?

Anet made changes that benefit those that held on to their pigs & fireworks. No one who gave them away has been hurt in any real sense. They just don't get a lucky bonus. To ascribe all sorts of nefarious motives to Anet is silly. All of the conspiratorial self-pity is not attractive at all.

I personally dedicated my pigs and then trashed them. C'est la vie. I can thing of a few worse things that have happened to me. For instance, the diet coke I got at the deli yesterday was only 3/4 full. Curse that waitress!

Lonesamurai

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
They already have. I've already decided not to pre-order GW2 due to decisions in GW, and no, it's got nothing to do with any minipets like the pig (very minor annoyance that anet is price-fixing the minipig; mainly it is hard to avoid the suspicion they're doing this on behalf of someone) or the polar bear (no annoyance at all), or even how ANet handles events (great, except for the information to the players). EDIT: Oh and seriously - complaining about the BMP? You, like me, got something for free for buying GW:EN. Now people have to pay $10 for the same thing. If THEY, the people who have to pay, were complaining, then I'd understand it, but complaining about getting something for free?!

No, the reason I wont be preordering is to do with changing the whole philosophy of GW from "skill over time" to "time over skill". I don't like it, and if it, as I suspect, is indicative of GW2, then I guess it's time for me to go back to playing FPS's.
Best post of this thread

Sorry Rahja mate, I know your not greedy, but surely you knew this thread would degrade to flamesand whining

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Best post of this thread

Sorry Rahja mate, I know your not greedy, but surely you knew this thread would degrade to flamesand whining
The post is off-topic, at best (although I agree with him somewhat). How can you call it "Best post of this thread" is beyond me.

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

Maybe a few Elementalists should cast multiple Wards Against Harm...at least for a few seconds we wont be affected by flames. Anyway let's not get carried away, we well have lots of chances to get this new pet, and even if we did get "screwed over" it's just the shotgun effect, you shoot [punish] one person and everyone gets hit somehow.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

I'm sorry, but there's nothing you can do about it now.

Who cares, they're not going to be able to sell them for that much. And only idiots would buy them for that much, after the festival, they'll go down.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
The post is off-topic, at best (although I agree with him somewhat). How can you call it "Best post of this thread" is beyond me.
Because its a whine thread and should be closed

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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yeah its decisions like this that have made me feel "done" with guildwars, it was a nice run but no way am i buying into GW2 if these kind of "spur-of-the-moment" changes carry over into GW2's economy, and thats all it boils down to for me

When something a year old that was never alluded to being valuable in the future goes from 0-1k to 20-25k overnight, theres a problem with that in my mind

I didn't even bother give my extras away, too many people had them for that, so I just chucked em

boxterduke

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
This thread is filled with greed-laced fail.

Cmon now, are you serious? Are you really that upset about something, do you only give things to people when you have a motive for yourself? Its not like the rat is going to be hard to get anyways.

If you are complaining about people what people do with something you gave them, then you are less idiotic, but if you are complaining that its ANets fault, holy jeebus you need help..
I donot think Raja, is greedy, I think he is saying that he gave away all his pigs and now if he wants one to trade with the new mini then who's going to give him one for free, like he gave away.

I had 10 left over last year and made a thread on gwonline and some kind of contest and gave away the minis to new comers to the game.

You think people will give me one for free (the majority anyway).
I'm lucky that one person in my guild was kind enough to give me one.

But if I had no one to give me a pig then I would have to buy one.

The funny thing is, if Anet then provides this so called new mini surprise in tons after the end of the festival just like they did with the mini pigs.

P.S, many great thanks to my guildie for giving me one for free, if you are reading this buddy I owe you one

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
The funny thing is, if Anet then provides this so called new mini surprise in tons after the end of the festival just like they did with the mini pigs.
If they don't then i'm following suit with a few other people and quiting, mass walk out FTW

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

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Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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I think people are missing the most important thing about the minipig trade in:

WHY?

Why does ANet suddenly care that the minipig was the most common minipet, and that it was very cheap (typically selling for 1-2K)?

I can see three possible reasons:

1) Server load. During events ANets servers get bogged down, and a big part of that load is all the hundreds of minipets. By draining the most common minipet off the market, they may be hoping to lower server load during the event.
2) There is some in-game problem with the minipet. Something about it which somehow is a problem to gameplay. Broken textures, overly complex model slowing peoples graphics down... anything.
3) Some player has asked ANet to make the pig rarer, and hence more expensive.

If the reason turns out to be 3), that is a problem, because then ANet has helped someone play the in-game market.


That would be similar to what happened in EVE, where employees helped a particular corporation gain unfair advantages.

MasterPatricko

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Well, here's a thought:

There will be a way to get more pigs this festival.
I guarantee it.
Think about it: if ANet implemented the pig collector without a method to get more pigs, all the players who started playing after last years festival are, unless they manage to buy a couple of pigs, out of luck. ANet do not do this - their holiday festivals are always self-contained and accessible to all.
ANet have NEVER implemented something that REQUIRED people to have been playing for a certain length of time. The closest they got to having "requirements" was the Black Moa Chick mini which required you to own all the campaigns, which doesn't completely prevent anyone from completing it. The only thing in the entire game that ANet intentionally made impossible to get in the future is festival headgear. Everything else has ALWAYS been accessible to both new accounts and old accounts.

Jongo River

Jongo River

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Anybody for picketing the collector when he arrives?

Sub Frost

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

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Quick question. Why are some people under the impression, that the mini pig collector is going to give a item/mini that the rest won't be able to obtain?

Did people actually read the special event page?

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterPatricko
Well, here's a thought:

There will be a way to get more pigs this festival.
I guarantee it.
Think about it: if ANet implemented the pig collector without a method to get more pigs, all the players who started playing after last years festival are, unless they manage to buy a couple of pigs, out of luck. ANet do not do this - their holiday festivals are always self-contained and accessible to all.
ANet have NEVER implemented something that REQUIRED people to have been playing for a certain length of time.
The closest they got to having "requirements" was the Black Moa Chick mini which required you to own all the campaigns, which doesn't completely prevent anyone from completing it. The only thing in the entire game that ANet intentionally made impossible to get in the future is festival headgear. Everything else has ALWAYS been accessible to both new accounts and old accounts.
Anet never give out an old hat from the past events either. This event is going to be the first. Not to mention how this event is the first hat event NOT TO GET A NEW HAT AT ALL, as well.

So there.

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sub Frost
Quick question. Why are some people under the impression, that the mini pig collector is going to give a item/mini that the rest won't be able to obtain?

Did people actually read the special event page?
Your right Gaile hasnt said anything about...oh wait.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile
The special reward for exchanging a number of Miniature Pigs from last year is only available through an exchange, it will not be given at the end of the event or through fortunes. (Naturally, you can trade for the mini.)

MasterPatricko

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
Anet never give out an old hat from the past events either. This event is going to be the first. Not to mention how this event is the first hat event NOT TO GET A NEW HAT AT ALL, as well.

So there.
The Furious Pumpkin Crown and the Pumpkin Crown are basically the same. They'll probably just do that again. That doesn't invalidate my point. ANet would not do something that excludes new players completely.