Mini Pig Woes...

Theo Godscythe

Theo Godscythe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

The price has fallen to around 10-20k, the price before the finale last year, so it's not as bad if you buy for anything more than 10-20k then your have cash to waste.

BTW I always knew Pigs domianted the economy, pigs being rich people who pay a lot to be the first to have new stuff, raising the price of items (to unreasonable amounts) so people with less money can't get it right away.

Pigs and Rats the economy is domianted by vermin, BRING ON THE TIGERS AND DRAGONS!!

AND NIAN!!!!

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
I sometimes wonder if Anet do these things on purpose just to laugh at the community.
Nah, it's just pure ignorance.
Players with 3+ active characters don't have a lobby among Anet's designers. Since NF we are supposed to have 1 or 2 characters, 1pvp slot and several mules. (a guildmate who has only one pve char has a mule full of piggies..)
Single character grind is endorsed by all actions of the design team.

Personally, i'm waiting for Mythos and if it's good enough it's QQ+ByeBye GW franchise.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
Personally, i'm waiting for Mythos and if it's good enough it's QQ+ByeBye GW franchise.
I worked on Mythos!

Not sure if I see it replacing anyone's GW or WoW addiction, but hey, I could be wrong, and it was a lot of fun building things to match the groovy, colorful aesthetic.

Spellforge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless

N/

I think I have about 4 pigs in storage - I kept 1 for each of my mains.
I'm not sure what to do with them now - sell or trade to collector.
I only kept them at the time because I remembered that you only normally get mini's at birthdays and I did not want to spend money on buying more.
I was pleased when the HoM had space for mini's - I thought I might fill up any shortfalls with pigs but I was in no rush and so far have not dedicated any mini's

I don't consider myself greedy - maybe a bit of a hoarder - but thats my perogative
we are all given the same storage space and we can all choose what we use it for.

I expect ANET can very easily audit storage and have come across many people like myself with multiple pigs just sitting there and have decided the numbers add up enough to try to change the number of pigs in the economy - They have in mind a figure of reducing these sitting around pigs. If most people are like me then the trade in will be 4 to 1. If enough people have held onto 10 minipigs the ration will be 10 pigs for 1 new whatever

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

I guess i can understand why they are doing this, from reading how many mini pigs people actually have, its flooding!! looks like a way to get rid of them all to bring it back down or something. The prices for these new pets will probably be ridiculous, it always is, people want to be the first to get something so they will pay lots. Give it a few weeks and the price of these new minis will drop.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oukanna
from reading how many mini pigs people actually have, its flooding!!
Pretty much; the distribution was extremely uneven due to low droprate before finale, and immense droprate during. In a nutshell those who attended/went AFK during last years finale got multiple pigs, and those who did not attend the finale didn't get any. This year they try to avoid this uneven distribution by increasing droprate before finale, and not giving out minipets during finale. Which is good, I guess.

Thing is, I don't see how this was a problem which needed correcting by adding a minipig-sink. The only reason to do so is to increase the price of the minipig, and I seriously can not see why ANet feels it necessary or desirable to do so? Why is ANet trying to increase the price of the minipig?

If ANet really thinks that the most pressing problem in PvE right now is to help people free up storage space by raising the price of minipigs over their 1-2K selling price so they're "worth selling"... Well, damn, aren't they out of touch.

Oukanna

Oukanna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Shaolin Guardians

E/D

I guess your right there, it doesnt make much sense when you put it that way =\

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

You know ... i actually hoped for this event to flood market with super cheap minipets. Was it so bad that one mini was so common to become simple token of goodwill: gift you would give to stranger that was not so lucky to be online during festival? Bad enough that some gold colored mini was comon so that they needed to fix it?

Having 10 characters, i would not mind couple of rats for couple of HoMs

In fact, i would welcome if every single player got rat (and pig) for each character they have.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Thing is, I don't see how this was a problem which needed correcting by adding a minipig-sink. The only reason to do so is to increase the price of the minipig, and I seriously can not see why ANet feels it necessary or desirable to do so? Why is ANet trying to increase the price of the minipig?
Very easily answered - this game is now focussed on minipets and titles.

Weapons, with very few exceptions, are now pretty cheap. With the exception of tormented weapons, I haven't seen anything over 100k in a long time. Even the new design-a-weapon additions won't stay high priced very long.

There is a wide variety of armor in the game but with no new expansions what we have is all there is likely to ever be.

New quests, missions and explorable areas take a lot of time and money to design and so we have seen the last of them - except maybe in the form of future BMPs.

the only new things, because they are easy to produce and implement, are titles and minipets (two things which, coincidentally, have almost nothing to do with actually playing the game) Soooo....expect them to continue to rise in price and expect ANet to waste lots more time fiddling around with them - trying to adjust the "pet economy".

Minipets are now the whole point of the game.

Hey, I think minipets are cute too, but come on, I bought Guild Wars not Sim-zoo.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

Most people gave away or sold their Mini-pigs or at least most of them. I have a few left but will probably end up giving them to guildmates who destroyed theirs. I only kept the couple I have because I have multiple characters doing HoM - so far only one is doing mini-pets though.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

im guessins they are the most common minipet atm
if u trade in a pet for another, we will get rid of the pigs in the economy

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

I bet the devs have a bunch of extra pigs and want to make some money selling them.

/sarcasm

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Makes me sort of glad I still have 6 extra pigs I wasn't ever able to give away in my guild.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I thought id join in on the fun even though i clearly sed i wouldn't. I got 14 last event, 1 gave away, 1 is for keeping, 1 for my bro, 1 for a friend.
The other 10 i made 138k +4 ecto + a black dye in a few trade. I probably coulda got more. if peopple are selling for 100k i coulda made a million, oh great...coulda funded my party title

dicksbain

dicksbain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

DestructionsMinions

Mo/

For those WTB a group of mini pigs, I found this list:

A group of pigs is referred to as drove, litter, drift, flock, hoggery, herd, sounder

Example: "wtb - hoggery of mini pigs 100k + 200e"

lol...this is sad.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

Quote:
Hey, I think minipets are cute too, but come on, I bought Guild Wars not Sim-zoo.

hahaha in your face Apet.

Willow O Whisper

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

Your Pushing it this time A-net!

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

Remember last year people were buying the Mini-Pigs for 50k each. That hit 2k in a few weeks, might happen again with the item you receive when you trade them in.
I'm playing it safe and won't be buying any Pigs, really though I'm down-tuning on GW so it doesn't bother me.

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down
Ha! You completely contradict yourself!

First you say not to use my "interwebz lingo" because it makes me look "immature". I am guessing you are talking about "/owned" comment? Well you use "interwebz lingo" yourself...



You clearly use "interwebz lingo" in your first post on the matter.

Also, you say that Anet is "lazy" because they use the same hat. They aren't giving out the Lion Mask at the event Finale as pointed out in my Gaile quotes earlier.

You go on to say that...



I proved your wrong with this statement with my Gaile quotes above which indeed state that we get a second chance to get the Lion Mask and that second chance isn't the finale. And I also pointed out with the Gaile quotes that we get a "special item" from the finale which is "new this year".

Now if we go back to your last post and the first one we can cleary see your contradict yourself by saying that Anet is giving us the same hat as last year for the finale(first post) and then you go on to imply that you always knew that they were giving out a "special item".

So in conclusion, you didn't read those two Gaile quotes I made, because if you did then you wouldn't have come to Guru calling Anet "lazy".
Is there a reason you're making such a huge deal out of this? Jeez calm yourself down, I mean I know the internet is serious business and all but c'mon already. Get over yourself. I did indeed know about the special item because I read the gaile chat before it was even posted on guru. I also remember you saying in previous posts that I "couldn't" read not "didnt". Just let it die already, this isn't the place.

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

I just spent my last 100K for 5mini pigs hoping it will be worth it :/

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by okashii
I just spent my last 100K for 5mini pigs hoping it will be worth it :/
You might get lucky.

Even if the odds are against you

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tantra Existantance
You might get lucky.

Even if the odds are against you
sounds like a get-laid tip for a geeky 16yo :/

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by okashii
sounds like a get-laid tip for a geeky 16yo :/
Welcome to Guild Wars Guru

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by okashii
sounds like a get-laid tip for a geeky 16yo :/
I'll give you all mine then ( 43 ).

Not really though.

I wish I had 43 Mini-Pigs.

Sub Frost

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

R/

Quote:
In addition to the festival rewards mentioned above, two special miniatures will be available this year. For those lucky enough to receive multiple miniature pigs during last year's celebration, look for a special collector with a celestial surprise for you. And watch those Lunar Fortunes closely. Your immediate future just might include a miniature Celestial Rat in your pack.
I must be reading this diferently from the people selling/buying mini pigs for stupid amounts, let's see, all this says is people that have multiple mini pigs will have a chance to use a collector to get a celestial rat(5 pigs for 1 rat? probably something like that), but the celestial rat will still be available for everyone on the Lunar Fortunes...

Tantra Existantance

Tantra Existantance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ireland

W/

It's all speculation at the moment.

/fustration @ deleting my mini-pigs for storage space a while back

puffzilla

puffzilla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

W/

they might have made a celestial pig. 3-5 for one of thoses.

Got to love this kind of stuff to get people to crack open their storage wallets

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

They probably had good intentions again...^^

Super Stupid ideas - maybe not among the top 3 stupid ideas, but stupid enough to be mentioned:

1.) One more item consumption title (Party Animal)
- Extremely sad as many people will bite themselves in their arses for using up all the snowmen and stuff for FUN before this title was introduced.

2.) Giving a special reward for last year's mini
- Seriously, they forget that many people have more than 1 char. They used them up in their other HoM's or sold them. Who is keeping these pigs? And now they are suddenly valuable... DOH!


Totally screwed up ideas and logic. Who had this idea, and how could the majority of responsible people at ANet (I guess they discuss such ideas) agree on that???

CougarTheTall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dallas, TX

The Blood Spikers

N/Mo

I'm fairly confident that ANET did this with the pigs so that they could all gather around a big giant screen and all read guru and laugh at the 16 pages of people yelling WWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

In related news, ANET has managed to create the single worst economy of any online game ever in the history of anything.

So... I guess my point is... "duh".

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
For those lucky enough to receive multiple miniature pigs during last year's celebration, look for a special collector with a celestial surprise for you.
We don't even know what it is. Gamble away!

Anyone trading in the mini-pig gets a permanent meteor shower targeting them whenever the go into an instanced area.

PinoyRurik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

PNAS

W/Mo

LOL.
I actually had 20 mini pigs and have given them away.
Im not saying im mad at my self because What i felt helping others greatly outweighs what I may get in those collectors.

BTW for those people whos buying pigs for 100k, I feel bad for you.
Anything that comes from a collector is never worth more than 10k.

And there is so much supply of pigs, anything you trade with those would be the next..... MINI PIG!? but in a different form.. MINI RAT.. SUCKERS!

P.S. I feel A.net is really messing up GW 1 so we can all hate it and play GW 2. Make Sense?

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

If we look back to last year Anet has made some changes which I personally think reflect what the community complained about.

1. Too many mini-pigs - now we can get rid of some
2. Some of us did all the work to get the ingredients while others just stood around - this year we get a reward to give items in - good job here
3. Don't do the rats the same way as the pigs - looks like they won't

So.... seems like a good deal to me

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Its a bit late to be addressing those concerns, should have done it on the last day...

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

The thing is, people had been "getting rid" of the minipigs all through the year, one way or another. So, introducing a reward for NOT doing that now (despite the very limited storage and no hint of what to come) is just plain wrong. It'd be fine if they had introduce such fix right after the event (or better, during the event).

Mr. Undisclosed

Mr. Undisclosed

I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
The thing is, people had been "getting rid" of the minipigs all through the year, one way or another. So, introducing a reward for NOT doing that now (despite the very limited storage and no hint of what to come) is just plain wrong. It'd be fine if they had introduce such fix right after the event (or better, during the event).
Agreed.

12 character limit

Ku Ku

Ku Ku

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

[MYST]

Rt/R

Although this might have been mentioned before, the thread was too long for me to read through entirely.

We arent certain it is a mini pet we trade them for :P i could just be bags or something.

Also the price seems to have stuck at 20-30k rather than 100k :P

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
The thing is, people had been "getting rid" of the minipigs all through the year, one way or another. So, introducing a reward for NOT doing that now (despite the very limited storage and no hint of what to come) is just plain wrong. It'd be fine if they had introduce such fix right after the event (or better, during the event).
Who knows maybe this is a trial for a new mini-pet trader

Also do we know if we can trade dedicated mini-pigs in?

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Yes, we can. It's been stated throughout the thread.

Zodiak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Gatineau, Qc, Canada

Kiss of Anguish [KISS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ku Ku
Although this might have been mentioned before, the thread was too long for me to read through entirely.

We arent certain it is a mini pet we trade them for :P i could just be bags or something.
(Confirmed) There Will be two Minipets Available
(Confirmed) The Celestial Rat Minipet can ONLY be obtained through Lunar Tokens
(Confirmed) The Special Collector will Require Two or More Mini Pigs in exchange
(Confirmed) The Hats for this year's Canthan New Year is the Lion Mask, same as last year, with a possible twist if I recall.
(Confirmed) The Event at the End of the Festival will not award a Minipet, instead something New and Cool will be awarded.

Where else do you see the Second Minipet being awarded other then the Collector?

Although Gaile DID state that Top Winner's in the Roller Beetle Races will be rewarded with something special, which could only be the other place I can Imagine.

Minipet for 9 Rings or Rock-Paper-Scissors?