Mini Pig Woes...

Smilin' Assassin

Smilin' Assassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Cantha

Pixies O Wickid Nawtyness [pixy]

A/Me

well, I'm happy that the Mask is available during the event, not at the end - I always felt that the previous masks - esp Wintersday - given at the end were too late for most of the festival event .. oughta be before .. misses the point to wear em after it's all over ..
~ would be even cooler if the end-of-festival challenge needed to be done wearing the mask :}

*on topic for inflatable worthless items, what's next~? .. hang on to those Tourney Tokens, folks :}

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I hear that they are adding a special collector for the people that have gotten Fungal Wallows five birthdays in a row.....

Unlocks Brutus as a hero...

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
I hear that they are adding a special collector for the people that have gotten Fungal Wallows five birthdays in a row.....

Unlocks Brutus as a hero...
then there is hope!!!

but I actually LIKE the wallows

Mangione

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Uhm...
I gave 7 excess minipigs to unknown people who missed them.
I've been left with just 1 for my main.

I guess I should have been selfish and kept the exceeding ones for me.
It is not a problem, after all is just a mini.
Maybe I'll be able to buy it from some other player in the future.

Thing I have learned: don't be so generous next time.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smilin' Assassin
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]well, I'm happy that the Mask is available during the event, not at the end - I always felt that the previous masks - esp Wintersday - given at the end were too late for most of the festival event .. oughta be before .. misses the point to wear em after it's all over ..
Unless you're new to the game/missed last year's finales, this "hat during the event" is the same hat as last year. There's no need to hold it off until later because it's not a big surprise anymore (They seem to have something else for the finale though).

So to recap: Anet didn't learn to do things better as you (seem to) had hoped.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steboy93
And hints to what these prizes are? Mini beetles perhaps?
I hope not, no one else thinks it stupid that almost every aspect of the game currently revolves around getting/winning/owning crappy minipets?

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Lol.. I'm surprised there isn't an uproar yet about the fact that a previous year's hat will be available this year. What happened to hats showing 'you were there at the time' ?

Not that I care mind, but if they're going to do this I'd like a 2005 yule cap please Anet because the 2006 one looks like someone accidentally put starch in the washing machine with it.

Re: mini pigs. I find it hard to get annoyed over crap like this, and also if people were taking multiple pigs off people who were giving them away free they were already taking advantage of someone else's generosity anyway. I gave a couple away too, to be honest I don't really care if they get a new mini.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
Lol.. I'm surprised there isn't an uproar yet about the fact that a previous year's hat will be available this year. What happened to hats showing 'you were there at the time' ?

Not that I care mind, but if they're going to do this I'd like a 2005 yule cap please Anet because the 2006 one looks like someone accidentally put starch in the washing machine with it.
Agreed. This is the first hat to get an identical repeat. God knows how many more we will get.

Who knows, we might see Divine Aura on sale soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
Re: mini pigs. I find it hard to get annoyed over crap like this, and also if people were taking multiple pigs off people who were giving them away free they were already taking advantage of someone else's generosity anyway. I gave a couple away too, to be honest I don't really care if they get a new mini.
The point, you see, is that it's not nice for someone to take multiple pigs off people who gave them away for free. But now Anet is rewarding such people AND people who didn't give the pig away (for whatever reason). How nice of them?

No offense to those who collect the pigs because you like them; I'm assuming that since you like them, you won't turn them into "profit" now.

ragnagard

ragnagard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

In Spain, of course

Gamer Espa??ol[GE]

N/Mo

I still have about 10 minis left but.... I think that this is a backwards step from anet.

Inflate the pigs price even is... really is a wrong step.

I cant even believe that they now sell about 10 or 20 times their last price (500g -1k?) or more cause they were the mostly common pet (at that time) even lower than the devourer (yeah, even lower). I didnt sell my group of piggys then and give away some of them to guildies or mates who doesnt have one, put the rest on a storage/mule for my minis.

And BTW... why that mysticism about the number of piggys needed?
"between 2 and a dozen"
Well let it be 11 piggys then? (yeah i am a bit dissapointed about the small flow of info about this).
According to the statics I normally do for other collector things, its easy to estimate how much minis we'll need: 5.
Collector armor: 5 items, Number of cookers last canthan new year: 5, Items for each part of the minimoa ingredients: 5 ..... uuuumm 5 seems the round number.
Hope I am wrong and it will be 3 or less but.... 5 is more than 2, less than 12 and common.....

Lemme say something that can be the most stupidly thing you can ever read here (sorry about it then, rofl ):
isnt anet acting like they wanna clear GW of minipigs?
I mean that they are making an offer that eliminates the in-game pigs and/or reduce it by almost 2:1 rate with the collector. Looks like they wanna clean their items database of pigs but without deleting it from the accounts (consideration to the players?)
My opinion is weird but.... if you think about the fact thay they wont (stated on the current info) flow the market again with non-value rats (not giving it so massively)....
Maybe i am wrong and they only want to transform the pigs that last after this festival in a new exclusive pet (Kanapig!!)

(OT)
With this I think that anet just.... put another ragna's fun-killer action on their list:
- Loot Scaling (that's a personal opinion, of course)
- Skill balance (pve farming nerf, cause of the pvp massive use/anything that can be right but it.... fuc#s my builds rofl)
- polar bear mini (I dont even know it until it cost like a house full of ectos, after the event ended. when was it announced? i dont remember)
- ....... already said farming nerf?
(/OT)

Will harcore players (like me, rofl) play GW2 if they are annoyed with anet "politics" now? :S

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma

The point, you see, is that it's not nice for someone to take multiple pigs off people who gave them away for free. But now Anet is rewarding such people AND people who didn't give the pig away (for whatever reason). How nice of them?

No offense to those who collect the pigs because you like them; I'm assuming that since you like them, you won't turn them into "profit" now.
Oh yes, I agree with you there. It's not at all nice, especially for people who were good enough to give them away, I guess I just can't seem to get that angry about it. I remember laZy's big minipig giveaway and thought it a really nice thing to do for the community, it's a bit of a slap in the face especially given that a some multiple piggy owners will be those who just AFK'd while everyone else ran round with the ingredients. Myself I was lucky that I had three drop from fortune cookies and picked up a couple at the event finales, so I think I still have two squirrelled away on my mules.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Noone touches my piggy.

The moment I got my piggy, the hard way, was probably the happiest moment in all of GW for me. I was happy as if I were a child again. That's priceless.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
I mean, what emotion is more appropriate to a New Year celebration than regret?
Possibly "resentment". I took part in the entire New Years Celebration last year, except the very finale when I had to be away, and out of all the tokens I got for questing I didn't get any pig. Well, tough cookies, but I'm used to being screwed during events. The surprise "8 in the evening to 8 in the morning on new years eve" yuletide cap of the first wintersday is still a sore point with me.

Then the very same day I decide to buy a minipig for my HoM ANet goes and creates a minipig sink to raise their price so that all the people who've hoarded them can get all that money they dreamed about while hoarding.

Resentment. That's how this, like all the other event surprises, makes me feel. And more than a little bit jaded.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
BTW, ANet - the mass of pigs you gave away last year was the best holiday gift you ever gave. Shame you want to take it all back.
It's because a lot of people who hoarded the pig have complained that it's too cheap. They couldn't make any money off it. So ANet provided a sink, once again listening to the wrong players. They've done that a lot recently.

That said, it says that droprate of minipets has been increased, and that you can "of course" trade for the mini. That to me suggests there'll be a collector also for the celestial rat, so that the nian will be easily obtainable.

Which doesn't help me, as I'm neither interested in the rat or the nian, but in the pig.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

good thing i kept my piggie and all other minis (even if dedicated) ^^

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I don't think the design team thought about this very much.

It's a total pig-sink and for what reason? To make greedy opportunists rich?

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I was a little excited when I first heard this, since I still have my little dedicated piggy. Then, I noticed that little "more than 2..." B.S. What!? So, people are supposed to have held onto multiples of these things? Why would you need more than one? Like many others, I gave the rest of mine away to friends, guildies, and even random folks I just wanted to be nice to.

Well, no need to go any further, it's all been covered before my post. This is a new low catering to hoarders and profit-seekers. Bah!

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
That said, it says that droprate of minipets has been increased, and that you can "of course" trade for the mini. That to me suggests there'll be a collector also for the celestial rat, so that the nian will be easily obtainable.

Which doesn't help me, as I'm neither interested in the rat or the nian, but in the pig.
I wish. Gaile stated clearly on the wiki that the only way to get the celestial rat is through Lunar Fortune. And to get the reward you can get from the minipig collector YOU MUST turn in the minipigs (more than 2 less than 12 of them).

I bet some of you wish she's lying (again) this time. But trust me, she usually doesn't lie about such thing.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

This is just another idea without thinking to me, I was unlucky during the last years event and had only 2 minipigs which 1 of them I gave it away. Anet seems to forget the good heart of the community here. Big disappointment from my side.

- Ganni

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
I don't think the design team thought about this very much.

It's a total pig-sink and for what reason? To make greedy opportunists rich?
I think they're trying to re-align the pig with it's rarity colour. I wonder if they never intended to give them away last year, but did because of issues with the lunar tokens? IIRC, at first the tokens were dropping too many pigs, then later people were going through stacks and not getting one. I remember being very frustrated trying to get a pig...

Whatever the case, it seems like there's some evil scrooge on the party team, who's been waiting 12 months to rectify matters with a mass pig-culling. Time to shed a tear for the passing of the cheap and cheerful piggy, I suppose.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saraphim
Lol.. I'm surprised there isn't an uproar yet about the fact that a previous year's hat will be available this year. What happened to hats showing 'you were there at the time' ?

Not that I care mind, but if they're going to do this I'd like a 2005 yule cap please Anet because the 2006 one looks like someone accidentally put starch in the washing machine with it.

Re: mini pigs. I find it hard to get annoyed over crap like this, and also if people were taking multiple pigs off people who were giving them away free they were already taking advantage of someone else's generosity anyway. I gave a couple away too, to be honest I don't really care if they get a new mini.
I'm almost annoyed, it's my favourite hat and now it's going to be easily available to everyone, kind of makes it less special. But it does make sense, considering it's Chinese New Year, and I don't see why everyone shouldn't be able to enjoy the single best hat they've done.

But we're not getting a new one at all? Can't help but feel they couldn't be bothered designing a new one, especially after all the complaints about hats lately..

I expect more of an uproar to start when more people actually realise they're just giving out the Lion Mask again.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Possibly "resentment".

...

Then the very same day I decide to buy a minipig for my HoM ANet goes and creates a minipig sink to raise their price so that all the people who've hoarded them can get all that money they dreamed about while hoarding.

...

Which doesn't help me, as I'm neither interested in the rat or the nian, but in the pig.
You know what? I'm going to add your in-game name to my friends list (I assume it's Numa Pompilius), and if Anet does what it sounds like they're doing, and makes it so you have to have a whole handful of pigs to trade in for this new mini, I'll call you up and GIVE YOU A PIG. For free.

Screw Anet and their attempt to make people feel bad about being generous.

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

E/

D'oh! During the last year I've been handing out pigs as free gifts to random nice people that I met in game, in fact one went just yesterday before I saw this. Another great way for ANet to reward generosity over selfish greed, I see. I certainly hope that the collector is having dreams of three little piggies since that's all I have left at this point

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

I had 7 last year and gave all but 1 to friends and guildies who missed out on the event.

I refuse to feel sorry about doing this.

Silly Anet rewarding greed.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

I couldn't care less about minipets and people playing this game only for the hard-on they get whilst gazing upon their hoarded treasures.

Kronos Ledaloth

Kronos Ledaloth

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Italy

Spirits From Hell [SH]

E/P

i had 2 on storage....sold both for 50k

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
I'm almost annoyed, it's my favourite hat and now it's going to be easily available to everyone, kind of makes it less special. But it does make sense, considering it's Chinese New Year, and I don't see why everyone shouldn't be able to enjoy the single best hat they've done.

But we're not getting a new one at all? Can't help but feel they couldn't be bothered designing a new one, especially after all the complaints about hats lately..

I expect more of an uproar to start when more people actually realise they're just giving out the Lion Mask again.
Well, it does that a new "item" will be given away at the finale, and seeing as they've already stated there will be a celestial rat I'd think it would follow that the new "item" isn't the rat, otherwise they'd just say so surely?

I'd bet on a new hat myself, but then I've been wrong before.

Single best hat though? Shurely Shome Mishtake... I NPC'd mine and binned it straight away. Dragon festival (2006) mask is FTW, accept no substitutes. Especially now they've fixed the inferior copied versions to have bouncy bits on instead of a flat texture.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I collected and gave away 8 mini pigs last year to people who could not attend the event
Family work hospital admittance whatever commitments.
To have anet do this stinks in my books I have NO regrets giving the pigs away even hearing about this
but anet really need to rethink this and fast before the event.
Anet has lost the plot yet again

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
I wish. Gaile stated clearly on the wiki that the only way to get the celestial rat is through Lunar Fortune. And to get the reward you can get from the minipig collector YOU MUST turn in the minipigs (more than 2 less than 12 of them).
I'm not saying she's lying. I'm saying it sounds to me as if there'll be a collector for whatever minipet comes out of the cookies also, in addition to the collector for minipigs.

If there isn't, I think I can already safely say that The Usual People, the guys who farm events like these, will end up with enough cookies to get 20-30 of the minipet, and we'll have a re-run of all the crying about how the minipet is too cheap because it is too common. Just like with the minipig.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhedd
You know what? I'm going to add your in-game name to my friends list (I assume it's Numa Pompilius), and if Anet does what it sounds like they're doing, and makes it so you have to have a whole handful of pigs to trade in for this new mini, I'll call you up and GIVE YOU A PIG. For free.
I'm sorry, I can't accept that. But I will buy it off you for 5K. That is, in my opinion, a reasonable price.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Guildwars rewarding greed? Or more.. rewarding those rich and greedy people..

I ended up with 2 pigs (which i got from 2 different people.. one was dedicated already and 1 unded) because i missed the festival.

I gave away the second one i got because nobody needs 2 pigs right? But now i see people collecting and paying the most outrageous prices for pigs because of this so called collector that will apear..

GG anet GG

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

I'll never ever give anything away in this game again.

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

I sometimes wonder if Anet do these things on purpose just to laugh at the community. All those that gave Pigs away in the past year will probably never give again thanks to this. Well done.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Will we get this, if we hand in 12 mini pigs?


SPIDER PIG, SPIDER PIG
Does whatever a SPIDER PIG does.
Can he swing from a web?
No he cant. He's a pig.

LOOK OOOUUUTTT!!!!

He is a SPIDER PIG!!

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I'm sorry, I can't accept that. But I will buy it off you for 5K. That is, in my opinion, a reasonable price.
Okay. If it takes more than 3 (or 2, if my wife wants to keep hers) minipigs to get a new pet, it's a deal. ^_^

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I'll never ever give anything away in this game again.
Yay! Anet wins! They have your soul! (I'm starting to suspect them of being the Devil.)


I think we should all take time out of our busy schedules to thank all the jackasses that whined that mini-pigs were "too common".

Thanks to them, not only are generous folks getting a hearty slap in the face, but a lot of people who can't play 24 hours a day, this weekend, won't be getting a mini-rat.

UP WITH GREED! DOWN WITH FUN!

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Good god..

Some serious temper tantrums in here. Get the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over it.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

What are you guys crying about?

You gvae piggies away while you thought they were worthless, and otehrs kept them because they had space. Ive given a few away for free to and from guildies in the past... so what? Im happy that I could give a friend a smile. What they do after I was generous in the past, and no one knew about this is not my problem...

I was generous in the past with small things, and will be in the future still. Stop being greedy yoruself. Any and all money I made ingame was through legit trades and gameplay at the current trade prices (counting out scamming scammers every now and then for trying the old switch trick ), and this will carry on being so in the future. Im joining in the piggymania to make more cash this way by posting my WTB prices, and sticking to them +- a little, and selling (or keeping) at an average price currently in the area im in, not overpriced, but also not undermarket.

Its much like real life trading. Buy low, be oppertunistic and sell high to make a profit. No single stock trader will willingly sell undermarket or for old prices if something like this happens.

I think this thread is less of you crying about others being opertunists, than you loosing out because of a good deed?.... SO WHAT!!! Be happy that you did it in the past, and stop complaining.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

I love watching all the QQ... this thread goes to my bookmarks.

WTS: Tissues, 1 minipig each.... oh wait, you don't have any.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Was away for the weekend last year ... no pigs.

Will be away for the weekend this year.

You all have fun!

Hamsterstyle GYM

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Washington

[GYM]

Makes me chuckle.

I used to buy these up in bulks, walk outside and put them on the ground and walk back into town.

The value of the pig hasn't changed my mind about how much I dislike them =P

Still have 2 unded if anyone feels like shooting me an offer...ign in profile

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamsterstyle GYM
Makes me chuckle.

I used to buy these up in bulks, walk outside and put them on the ground and walk back into town.

The value of the pig hasn't changed my mind about how much I dislike them =P

Still have 2 unded if anyone feels like shooting me an offer...ign in profile
You keep doin that. One day my Oink will be super duper rare and I can sell him for super duper duped braces!!!1111!!!21

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
One day my Oink will be super duper rare and I can sell him for super duper duped braces!!!1111!!!21
OR we can have pork chops!!!!

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

i actually thought we;d get 2 mini pets this way:
1 from rollerbeetle ...a new one
1 from the new lunar tickets...but later at event.

i assume the last part of that where it says if you have tokens, its probably the same way you got pig originally