-pleak nerf just shows how little izzy knows about his game
-heal sig buff doesn't change anything
-troll buff... um ok thanks?
can't be bothered to talk about the rest. glad i don't play this game much anymore ^^
Update - Wednesday February 6
RhanoctJocosa
EinherjarMx
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
They're also in the Eye of the North, apparently.
One gave me an add there. I spammed it back with 'WTS rugs, ten dollars' until I'd literally driven everything else out of the chat record in whisper. On Mystic Regeneration, should have made it a Mysticism skill so as to make it Dervish only and cut out all the griefing Elementalists without hurting Dervishes. That would have been so much better. |
its been discussed previously, if they moved it into mysticism, some dervish build would only spec in 2 attribs instead of 3
i liked this update, power leak got overkilled but everything else was ok, MR is still useful on terratanks but not as powerful as before
gj
Sirius-NZ
I already do only spec in 2 attributes. Moving MR into Mysticism would just make Earth Prayers about as compelling as Wind Prayers.
ManMadeGod
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Originally Posted by nidy
I don't play a necro, but can someone please tell me. Were those necro skills really that bad? (Those being the ones reduced to 1 energy.)
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blood spell is not popular though.
BR is now worth to bring in pvp.
My question is, compared to Dark Pact or Blood of the Aggressor, why Jaundiced Gaze? it sac 10% and cost 10... did they forget it or something?
BTW, did Shadow refuge got nerffed or mis-reverted? it lasts for 4 sec only again.
Morgoth the dark
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Originally Posted by Tarkin
[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
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newbie_of_doom
I think the selfheal buffs are good, so is the heal party buff. But the way VoD goes now is uberlame, every1 will split now, which is lame... WTB tactics imo
I also don't like the necro updates.... I just dont get why lol. Also I dont like the pleak nerf, cause I think pleak was good (I actually play monk not mesmer^^)
I also don't like the necro updates.... I just dont get why lol. Also I dont like the pleak nerf, cause I think pleak was good (I actually play monk not mesmer^^)
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
in that case they should move enfeebling blood to the blood line because you know... it has "blood" on the name *wink* *wink*
its been discussed previously, if they moved it into mysticism, some dervish build would only spec in 2 attribs instead of 3 i liked this update, power leak got overkilled but everything else was ok, MR is still useful on terratanks but not as powerful as before gj |
The main reason though is that earth tank elementalists abuse the skill but a Dervish should still be able to use it.
cebalrai
The update is a little weird but fine I guess.
Did Anet really mean to send a huge buff to touch rangers though? This is baaad... One of the few things that could hinder them was e-management, but now that's not so much of a problem anymore... I really hope they reconsider this... In casual pvp you often see more touchers than necros anyway.
Did Anet really mean to send a huge buff to touch rangers though? This is baaad... One of the few things that could hinder them was e-management, but now that's not so much of a problem anymore... I really hope they reconsider this... In casual pvp you often see more touchers than necros anyway.
maraxusofk
i dont think anet cares about casual pvp b/c u know, its casual and suppsoed to be light hearted random fun.
i like the monk changes. cant wait to see how it turns out. omg avatar of grenth blows even harder now. i rather have the old one plz.
i like the monk changes. cant wait to see how it turns out. omg avatar of grenth blows even harder now. i rather have the old one plz.
EinherjarMx
unless they rend it useless, MR is going to be used by terranubs, besides the only places where they're annoying are Ab and RA and in RA you can report them for griefing
Besides if you can't bother to bring some kind of enchants removal then just don't fight them
[skill]gaze of contempt[/skill] after they casted [skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill] tears them in pieces
1 skill can get rid of sins abusing critical strikes, terratanks, MM's and even dervishes who watch a squishy and drool
maybe if the give half the regen for non derv enchants could work
Besides if you can't bother to bring some kind of enchants removal then just don't fight them
[skill]gaze of contempt[/skill] after they casted [skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill] tears them in pieces
1 skill can get rid of sins abusing critical strikes, terratanks, MM's and even dervishes who watch a squishy and drool
maybe if the give half the regen for non derv enchants could work
DeBron
All of it is odd.
Hexanon
Love the Necro changes, I am definately gonna try a "Touch Warrior".
Youre already in range - why not smack someone with a 1e skill. 1e skills are made for Warriors !
Youre already in range - why not smack someone with a 1e skill. 1e skills are made for Warriors !
Angelic Upstart
I hope to Christ Anet separate pve and pvp skills in GW2, this thread like all the others before it, reagarding skill 'balances' will end up with the same old pvp/pve flamefest.
Get over it already ffs...this is getting as stale as the game....
Get over it already ffs...this is getting as stale as the game....
Amnel Ithtirsol
Grenth is now completely useless. At least it was useful before against monks & ele's.
Anet, please change it back.
Anet, please change it back.
Numa Pompilius
J...F...C...!!!
They nerfed MESMERS and buffed NECROS?!
What The Hell?!
I mean, seriously, what the hell?
And no nerf to ursan.
They nerfed MESMERS and buffed NECROS?!
What The Hell?!
I mean, seriously, what the hell?
And no nerf to ursan.
shadows of hob
Very much interesting stuff this time.
New Title... meh, more grind and money wasted instead of a real achievement.
It seems that NPC's are becoming more and more important in a gvg.
Shame they nerfed mesmers again, but the 1 energy skills for the necromancers are interesting. Not sure why people want to use them now, but ok.
Maybe LOD will make a comeback, ye, maybe not.
People only used heal party on the HB monk, so the decreased healing hurts them more then the decreased casting time.
Hooray for the Troll Unguent buff.... pve rangers will love it.^^
Sway got buffed with PwK.....why not...
New Title... meh, more grind and money wasted instead of a real achievement.
It seems that NPC's are becoming more and more important in a gvg.
Shame they nerfed mesmers again, but the 1 energy skills for the necromancers are interesting. Not sure why people want to use them now, but ok.
Maybe LOD will make a comeback, ye, maybe not.
People only used heal party on the HB monk, so the decreased healing hurts them more then the decreased casting time. Hooray for the Troll Unguent buff.... pve rangers will love it.^^
Sway got buffed with PwK.....why not...
Utaku
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J...F...C...!!!
They nerfed MESMERS and buffed NECROS?! What The Hell?! I mean, seriously, what the hell? And no nerf to ursan. |
At the moment, Necros are almost only used in gimmick builds (necro healers, hexers, minion factory + hammer rangers; or blood spike) whereas mesmers are everywhere (balanced and sin split builds).
Cebe
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Grenth is now completely useless. At least it was useful before against monks & ele's.
Anet, please change it back. |
Grenth means you can't be blocked by enchanted foes.
Wild Blow means block stances mean nothing.
Try combining the two...
Now surely the only ways of blocking a Grenth/WB Dervish will be Defensive Anthem, Shield Bash/Burning Shield, 2 Rit skills, and a couple of Warrior skills/shouts? Since the majority of blocking comes from Protective enchantments and Stances I certainly don't agree with "completely useless".
Morgoth the dark
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Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
unless they rend it useless, MR is going to be used by terranubs, besides the only places where they're annoying are Ab and RA and in RA you can report them for griefing
Besides if you can't bother to bring some kind of enchants removal then just don't fight them [skill]gaze of contempt[/skill] after they casted [skill]stoneflesh aura[/skill] tears them in pieces 1 skill can get rid of sins abusing critical strikes, terratanks, MM's and even dervishes who watch a squishy and drool maybe if the give half the regen for non derv enchants could work |
wanna bet wich one wins?
i'm on this build vs gaze.
this one rapes it.
Numa Pompilius
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Skill balances usually target GvG meta.
At the moment, Necros are almost only used in gimmick builds --- whereas mesmers are everywhere |
Cass
Grats on making yet another utterly empty and therefore shit title track for grind monkeys.
Where is the Questing track?
Where is the Questing track?
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Cass
Grats on making yet another utterly empty and therefore shit title track for grind monkeys.
Where is the Questing track? |
This one should have been in from the start. Lets you see who actually plays the game, and who gets run through.
Torqual
Really dislike the creation of 1 energy skills, breaking the whole structure of 5,10,15,20 etc. As suggested above it would be better to make them 0 Energy so you pay with your health only.
Mystic Regen is still powerful enough, for general use, with 3 enchants. If you're standing there trying to keep 6 enchants up and doing something other than farming, I'd question what it is.
I wish that A-Net would stop screwing with party heal. I have builds and hero builds that use (not all together) all of those four skills in some way. I was using LoD with Holy Haste to get round the 2 sec cast. But now the whole thing is going to need big tweaking and rebalancing...again. Whoever said GoLE+Heal Party now wins is right - a bar with that and WoH *looks* like it now wins hands down over a LoD bar.
Heal Signet? I still won't use it. ZOMG my health is low! Better use a skill that makes me a sitting duck with half armour for 2 seconds! You need a stance just to cover it, the Heal Sig will only early-cancel the stance and the stance still won't protect you from spells while you are sigging. Tactics stances were made rubbish and pointless a while ago but that is another topic.
Mystic Regen is still powerful enough, for general use, with 3 enchants. If you're standing there trying to keep 6 enchants up and doing something other than farming, I'd question what it is.
I wish that A-Net would stop screwing with party heal. I have builds and hero builds that use (not all together) all of those four skills in some way. I was using LoD with Holy Haste to get round the 2 sec cast. But now the whole thing is going to need big tweaking and rebalancing...again. Whoever said GoLE+Heal Party now wins is right - a bar with that and WoH *looks* like it now wins hands down over a LoD bar.
Heal Signet? I still won't use it. ZOMG my health is low! Better use a skill that makes me a sitting duck with half armour for 2 seconds! You need a stance just to cover it, the Heal Sig will only early-cancel the stance and the stance still won't protect you from spells while you are sigging. Tactics stances were made rubbish and pointless a while ago but that is another topic.
Buzzer
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Now surely the only ways of blocking a Grenth/WB Dervish will be Defensive Anthem, Shield Bash/Burning Shield, 2 Rit skills, and a couple of Warrior skills/shouts?
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Hyaon
I always thought heal party and healers boon was ftw, still do!
Targuil
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Originally Posted by Torqual
Really dislike the creation of 1 energy skills, breaking the whole structure of 5,10,15,20 etc. As suggested above it would be better to make them 0 Energy so you pay with your health only.
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ensoriki
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Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Whats the hidden shadow refuge nerf about? Ive never seen that used O_o
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and they're Failing.
at 7 Shadow arts (which is probably how high any1 will take SA anymore)
you get 104 hp in total after 4 seconds if your attacking.
Wiki didn't update so that total heal is buffed to ummm 128 I guess?
The update really just makes it so you can get the conditional heal faster...but who cared about that when it sucked/sucks
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Part of me thinks Anet has a bit of a class bias.
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ensoriki
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
It's not class bias - they just think of mesmers as their red-headed stepchild.
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and Necro's are the pve class that gets laughed at?
Kattar
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Explain why Mesmers are one of the most kick ass pvp classes then?
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Never been laughed at as a Necro in PvE. Only as a mesmer.
ensoriki
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Fixed that for you...
Never been laughed at as a Necro in PvE. Only as a mesmer. |
PVE = scrub,
Necro = Pve class
Necro = Scrub
Avarre
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1 idea is
PVE = scrub, Necro = Pve class Necro = Scrub |
Tom Swift
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Originally Posted by ensoriki
There trying to buff it.
and they're Failing. at 7 Shadow arts (which is probably how high any1 will take SA anymore) you get 104 hp in total after 4 seconds if your attacking. Wiki didn't update so that total heal is buffed to ummm 128 I guess? The update really just makes it so you can get the conditional heal faster...but who cared about that when it sucked/sucks |
When I first started playing I used it a lot because it is one of the first skills you get. I don't know how many times I used it, got the regen, but then, just before I would get the heal at the end, the enemy would die. In the second or so while I ran over to attack the next guy refuge would end and I would miss the final heal.
Now, at least, you have a little better chance of getting that extra 104 or whatever.
Still doubt I will use it though.
Crom The Pale
I love the mesmer buff actually.
Clumsiness + Wandering Eye = a nice AoE dmg and the start of my new mes build for PvE.
Clumsiness + Wandering Eye = a nice AoE dmg and the start of my new mes build for PvE.
Moloch Vein
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There are other bad skills and bad lines in the game, it's not like necros needed the buff as they had other viable options. However, it seems necros are often the first to get a buff and whenever there is a skill balance, they tend to get far more buffs than nerfs.
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As for the 1e costs. EACH AND EVERY ONE of the DD skills do LESS damage to your opponent than it does to YOURSELF if you're specced at any reasonable PvP max health. Also the only 1e DD SPELL is Dark Pact, so you can't use anything else to trigger Cultist's (as if that is even viable) or Vampiric Spirit.
The only buffs that are true buffs are the ones to Hexer's, BiP, Blood Ritual and Offering of Blood. And I have a hard time seeing how this would make N come back into more viabibily for high-level PvP where it's now completely dead apart from the occasional taint-bot.
Torqual
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You failed already. It was 0,5,10,15 and 25. There wasn't 20 energy cost.
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It's quite obvious I mean 'in multiples of 5'.
Dronte
I really like the new updates.. Maybe I'll have time to play GW again hehe.
SpeedyKQ
Ineptitude nerf. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
This has been my favorite skill in the game for as long as I've had it. It is one of the few skills that make PVE mesmers viable. At least I'm 3/4ths done vanquishing with my mesmer, but now I wish I'd been faster about it.
This will make a BIG difference in PVE. With 10 seconds, you could throw it on anything and be sure it would attack (or die) before the time expired. With four seconds it'll be a crapshoot casting it on anything but a warrior. It'll go wasted a lot. I cast this spell all the time, and I can say from experience it is very common to wait for a bit of running or casting before the damage triggers.
Bah.
This has been my favorite skill in the game for as long as I've had it. It is one of the few skills that make PVE mesmers viable. At least I'm 3/4ths done vanquishing with my mesmer, but now I wish I'd been faster about it.
This will make a BIG difference in PVE. With 10 seconds, you could throw it on anything and be sure it would attack (or die) before the time expired. With four seconds it'll be a crapshoot casting it on anything but a warrior. It'll go wasted a lot. I cast this spell all the time, and I can say from experience it is very common to wait for a bit of running or casting before the damage triggers.
Bah.
Kattar
Or just switch to E-surge and use Sabway.
/continuethePvEsteamroll
(Although I probably shouldn't mention Sabway since it basically breaks the game and Andrew is reading this.
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They did this mostly to nerf sineptitude. PvE is a secondary concern in balances.
/continuethePvEsteamroll
(Although I probably shouldn't mention Sabway since it basically breaks the game and Andrew is reading this.
)They did this mostly to nerf sineptitude. PvE is a secondary concern in balances.
Snow Bunny
Could everyone please stop saying Grenth's Avatar is worse?
Anyone who seriously believes that it's a nerf should be banned for idiocy.
OHAI, MY NAME IS AEGIS.
OHAI, MINE'S GUARDIAN
OHAI, MINE'S SOD
OSHI- we can't block you
Anyone who seriously believes that it's a nerf should be banned for idiocy.
OHAI, MY NAME IS AEGIS.
OHAI, MINE'S GUARDIAN
OHAI, MINE'S SOD
OSHI- we can't block you