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				i can see your point, so if you like i can post some other screens of very similar (but slightly slower) times of 4 area doa runs with a mini map in?  
			
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Post your "Fastest" Elite area times!
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romeus petrus
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					Originally Posted by Taisayacho
					
				 
				Fastest time ever! 3 minutes! 
			
		![]() Right obviously it's a fake, just trying to prove a point. I did this on MSPaint, imagine how anyone can easily do a much better job on Photoshop. Can we really believe everything we see?  | 
	
I am not saying it cannot be edited, or that we should believe everything we see. I'm just suggesting that to edit these screens in such a way that it would be completely undetectable is not an easy task.
I can confirm that all the screens that LOD posted are genuine, feel free to check out the discussions about them on our site. I am pretty sure that at least most of the screens that other players posted are genuine as well.
Thx for the effort.
Th Fooster
                    ok so with all the people trying to establish how easy it is to fake a screenshot, dont forget there are authentic screenshots as well. our UW time is authentic. and has several sources form various party mebmbers. there will be a detailed thread soon on how we do it for all you nubcakes that cant think outside the box and cry photoshop to anything byeond your skill level.
my challenge stands. 10 k per party member for the gorup that provides more than one authentic source of proof of a faster time. my hope here is not to create rivlary.. but to have a good effect on the current pve meta.
So before you be quick to cry photoshop, join us for a run we quite often take a pug or two with us and then you will see for yourself instead of making acusations based on weak assumptions and heresay. i get pms all the time some negative askin how we made such a good fake, others that want to see for thier own eyes if its real. if we have room, we will take a pug or two.
read the thread from Lord Bleyz on how we do our runs. do the learning curve to get used to this new way,(at first you may fail a few times as all 8 players need to be on the ball no one can die or mess up) and with persistance you to wil achieve those times.But its not noob proof, so you will need to be good with your respective roll.
            my challenge stands. 10 k per party member for the gorup that provides more than one authentic source of proof of a faster time. my hope here is not to create rivlary.. but to have a good effect on the current pve meta.
So before you be quick to cry photoshop, join us for a run we quite often take a pug or two with us and then you will see for yourself instead of making acusations based on weak assumptions and heresay. i get pms all the time some negative askin how we made such a good fake, others that want to see for thier own eyes if its real. if we have room, we will take a pug or two.
read the thread from Lord Bleyz on how we do our runs. do the learning curve to get used to this new way,(at first you may fail a few times as all 8 players need to be on the ball no one can die or mess up) and with persistance you to wil achieve those times.But its not noob proof, so you will need to be good with your respective roll.
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Lord Bleyz
                    Go here if you want to see how we achieved our times.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10277528
            http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10277528
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Jenn
                    Fastest Urgoz time was about 45-55 minutes. 
My guild groups don't usually go through stuff to get through it as fast as possible. We practically vanquish the zones in hopes of an extra few ectos/shards/whatever. I've never really /aged after a FoW or UW run, but I'd say those are around an hour? Can't really say. Urgoz is probably the only time I've /age to see :P
GG on all the work, everyone
                
            My guild groups don't usually go through stuff to get through it as fast as possible. We practically vanquish the zones in hopes of an extra few ectos/shards/whatever. I've never really /aged after a FoW or UW run, but I'd say those are around an hour? Can't really say. Urgoz is probably the only time I've /age to see :P
GG on all the work, everyone
                xeRox teh Sorcerer
                    Finnally! 19 mins
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Yuri987/19.jpg
And Chan didn't believe me :P
(note the leaver got a 007 after 5 or 6 mins)
            http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/Yuri987/19.jpg
And Chan didn't believe me :P
(note the leaver got a 007 after 5 or 6 mins)
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					Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
					
				 
				Did the whole group have CoP? I've always wanted to try a teambuild using it but seems everyone's either runnin Ursan or a phys-heavy build  =\ 
			
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 cant quite remember.Can i just say, too, that this is the FASTEST elite mission time - i think people should be free to use whatever build they think will achieve the fastest time; if its ursan with cons, then so be it - although the build isn't very inventive there must be some decent players in the team to be pulling off some of these times.
*Ursans are a hindrance in the deep though
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BLOODGOAT
                    Did a HM FoW PuG last night in 1:05 with Ursanway/cons. Not that impressive but it's also been a couple months since I even stepped in FoW, and also it was about 2:00 am and I just wanted to do something quick/go to bed.
lul
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chowmein69
                    fow hm 52 mins
                
            xeRox teh Sorcerer
                    Yeah, 4 mesmers with CoP, i had it, sometimes 2nd SS takes but seanie didn't have it unlocked 
1 monk had it too, which really helped on split when they ran off, as SS could do no damage.
Everyone hates ursan, but it's given every profession an equal opportunity to do most parts of the game - like before, everyone hated sins, and now sins can get in an ursan team no problem. Anet has fixed this problem well I think.
            
1 monk had it too, which really helped on split when they ran off, as SS could do no damage.
Everyone hates ursan, but it's given every profession an equal opportunity to do most parts of the game - like before, everyone hated sins, and now sins can get in an ursan team no problem. Anet has fixed this problem well I think.
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Athrun Feya
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				Everyone hates ursan, but it's given every profession an equal opportunity to do most parts of the game - like before, everyone hated sins, and now sins can get in an ursan team no problem. Anet has fixed this problem well I think. 
			
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					Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
					
				 
				Did a HM FoW PuG last night in 1:05 with Ursanway/cons. Not that impressive but it's also been a couple months since I even stepped in FoW, and also it was about 2:00 am and I just wanted to do something quick/go to bed. 
			
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Arkantos
                    Cleared HM FoW in 54 mins, no ursan, 3 heroes. New personal record for my guild. Didn't take a screenie, but I'm pretty sure Racthoh, Knoll and DE have one.
                
            xeRox teh Sorcerer
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				Hey, and most of all it's got people to dump the heros  
			
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Chaos_Earth
                    wow, you guys are pretty amazing.
Does anybody know where/if I can find the builds that the Deep 19min group were running?
            Does anybody know where/if I can find the builds that the Deep 19min group were running?
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				wow, you guys are pretty amazing. 
			
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Th Fooster
                    wow great fow time
54 mins is fast for fow becuase there is alot of walk time.
you do realize.. some scrub is gonna cry photo shop if he fails at copying you.
            54 mins is fast for fow becuase there is alot of walk time.
you do realize.. some scrub is gonna cry photo shop if he fails at copying you.
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Arkantos
                    Beat our record by a minute. Again, non ursan. 
                
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Racthoh
                    You need to battlelion more, aggro everything.
                
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Arkantos
                    We aggro enough. 
                
            
                Deleet
                    False. Discussed at length? -.-
                
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				False. Discussed at length? -.- 
			
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					Originally Posted by Hailfall
					
				 
				Basically the steel wall build from pvxwiki but they changed the eles to mesmers with arcane mimicry (i believe), have 2 tanks (with shadowmeld) and the bip that tanks in the 3rd room, 2 HB monks and 1 HH monk (for the Bip tank) and 2 SS 
			
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The eles are replaced with Cry of Pain / Signet of illusion mesmers, who also take things like Meteor Shower and Deep Freeze. Mimicrying shadowmeld means noone dies at the gate. The team also do a "split" after scorpian aspect.
                Destro Maniak
                    I never have dont urgoz,deep,for,uw,doa. Till this weak. This week all done full doa HM and fowHM 4-5 runs
 Ill start uw soon but seems no one does it
. Need to askk allience for it proly. Anyway, My 6 ursan+2 hb HM fow party id it with 2 cons. We didnt had time without cons and the time we delivered griffons it was a slight line on cons display. SO it was probably 50-55min and it was hm
                
            
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					Originally Posted by ChaosTheAzn
					
				 
				Yeah, so [SCAR] guild of the LOD alliance got 50 minutes on FOW YAY. 
			
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					Originally Posted by romeus petrus
					
				 
				Grats SCAR. We are working on getting it under 40 min soon. We'll talk about a  joint run tonight. 
			
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ADDED: And Chaos I noticed your other thread you said you had fastest fow time but this one beats you:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=77
dont even think that is the fastest. IIRC correctly the fastest is 47min (Ursan though)
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romeus petrus
                    The fastest FoW run that I know of is 46 min. The 50 min is a new guild record for SCAR. LOD and SCAR are still fine tuning the build we are using, at the moment it does seem to include a variety of PvE only skills. We will post the details when we perfect it.
 
Atm the LOD alliance records in elite areas stand as:
 
Urgoz HM 35 min
UW NM 1:15 min (no PvE skills)
FoW HM 50 min
UW HM 1:42 min (kinda too long but we haven't been working on it for a bit)
DoA HM full run + Mallyx 2:42 min
Duncan HM 17 min
Slavers Exile HM full run 1:19 min
 
Screens and discussion here.
            Atm the LOD alliance records in elite areas stand as:
Urgoz HM 35 min
UW NM 1:15 min (no PvE skills)
FoW HM 50 min
UW HM 1:42 min (kinda too long but we haven't been working on it for a bit)
DoA HM full run + Mallyx 2:42 min
Duncan HM 17 min
Slavers Exile HM full run 1:19 min
Screens and discussion here.
ChaosTheAzn
Elemental Labrat
                    Arg Chaos you lost me behind the party box -.-" maybe john has a picture of me in there 
                
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PhoenixFive
                    Here is another screen from the 2nd terra of the 42 minute clear, as further proof to those who think photoshop is the only way to get a decent time.[IMG][/IMG]
                
            Dark Kal
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				Beat our record by a minute. Again, non ursan.  
			
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				Yeah, constant 80% damage reduction is really impressive *rolles eyes*. I really don't understand people who dislike ursan and then just use their own cheatbuild as if they did something impressive, two thumbs down. 
			
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RisingStorm
                    All I do is see people complain about ursan, what is your issue, its a skill they put in the game so we use it, if it makes things easier great, you can use it too so dont bitch because people use it. Its just another build to get things done quick, no different then people using terra tanks in UW
                
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				But, this is not an ursan debate thread, so why do you bother mentioning this? 
			
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				Only from armor-reduced damage, which is not the lethal damage in FoW anyway. I agree that it's imbalanced, hence imbagon, but it's not on the same level as ursan. It also makes it much harder for us if we wanted to run a split for any sections. Yes, we use PvE skills, but I'm still proud not to run ursan - and I doubt any of the ursan teams would get our times if they dropped it. But, this is not an ursan debate thread, so why do you bother mentioning this? 
			
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