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- Tain -

Desert Nomad

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[SMS]

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16 Apr 2008 at 13:38 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Kal

I don't see why imbagon is any better than ursan. Imbagon reduces damage much more than ursan does and teammates can bring full 8 skillbars for damage instead of using 3 pre-determined skills for damage. I'm not the one who mentioned it either, your guild mates mentioned ursan. Congratulations on your times, but you are no better than an ursan team. I don't mind imbagon or ursan BTW.

We list "non-ursan" because it is a different style of play, not because we're being self-righteous. It's not a debate, just what we do. There's no need to call us out on that, saying "two thumbs down" is a little rude don't you think? We share our times because people are curious (at least I assume that's why the thread was created), not because we care what people think. Epeen is ftl.

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

16 Apr 2008 at 13:59 - 162

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Tain -

Epeen is ftl.

Let's leave it at that I don't feel like derailing the thread any further.

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

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Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

16 Apr 2008 at 17:34 - 163

The OP is about "fastest elite area times, I think it is good to see different players using different builds to achieve very remarkable times. I see no reason why anyone should belittle the builds others used. Let's stay on topic please and share fast elite area times.

PS the argument about Ursan good or bad doesnt belong here.

oknar

Frost Gate Guardian

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16 Apr 2008 at 20:47 - 164

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

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Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

17 Apr 2008 at 06:14 - 165

And there you go, the LOD alliance currently holds the record for the fastest FoW HM run in 44 min.

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A joint LOD/SCAR run.

Another screen from the same run in case anyone wants to scream photoshop.

Mod Edit: Next time, please EDIT your post

Sry, was 2:00 AM when I made the post

OOshadeOO

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

UK

Stop Stealing[agro]

W/A

17 Apr 2008 at 07:25 - 166

your alliance looks fun

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

17 Apr 2008 at 14:44 - 167

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kela Ven Tori

LOD is the best guild ever. We own, and now its official :-)

Lol, we are also very humble...

Anyhoos to recap these are our current times in elite areas:

Urgoz HM 35 min
FoW HM 44 min
UW NM 1:15 min (no PvE skills)
UW HM 1:42 min (still debating whether or not to go back there to work on this time)
DoA HM full run + Mallyx 2:42 min
Duncan HM 17 min
Slavers Exile HM full run 1:19 min

Some calls within the alliance atm to take a break fro all these "epic runs", so we maynot be doing runs for record time for a while.

Elemental Labrat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Earth

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/A

17 Apr 2008 at 16:54 - 168

So now what, the LoD alliance now holds records for FoW HM and Urgoz? Hehe we rock

Shout out from SCAR, we loves our alliance

Genius Was Revrac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Illinois/Iowa

SCAR for life

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17 Apr 2008 at 16:58 - 169

Yes we do Labrat, but there are a lot of good PvE guilds out there who hold records we do not. This is all in good fun as GW players are searching for something to do before GW2. Keep up the fast times everyone.

Elemental Labrat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Earth

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/A

17 Apr 2008 at 21:16 - 170

Hmmmm sooo I just wanted to verify something..the beta comes out late this year but the game doesn't come out til late 2009?

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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17 Apr 2008 at 22:12 - 171

Lets not start saying guild x is the best guild and lets not start saying guild x is bad for whatever reason. Both are borderline trolling and will be deleted.

Game N Die

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CO

Scions of Carver[SCAR]

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18 Apr 2008 at 18:06 - 172

I enjoy this (mostly) friendly competition, and feel it is an interesting, community-developed aspect to GW. Since there seems to be some debate on what is "leet" or not (ursan, consumes, etc.) I propose we devise split formats for PvE. I only see the need to make two formats, but others may want to suggest more, so here it goes.
"Open" would be anything available to all players. "Limited" should be no PvE skills, and no consumables.
Of course, the Limited format is going to require a certain amount of honor among those reporting/competing with each other, but there seems to be enough people that choose to run something that excludes this or that to warrant a classification of it's own.
I prefer the Open myself, so I will let others debate about how to further classify the Limited. Or rename it, or change everything I just posted about, etc. I just thought it might be good for the community to try to establish some guidelines on how to compare accomplishments as opposed to arguing about what team build is more "leet."
Please let's try to keep this civil, because I think this type of competition may have the potential to develop into something really cool for everyone.

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

Mo/

19 Apr 2008 at 01:22 - 173

here is our last uw time record breaker

Lord Bleyz

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Clan Dethryche [dth]

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19 Apr 2008 at 01:23 - 174

Here's one from me xD

Lord Bleyz

Academy Page

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Clan Dethryche [dth]

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19 Apr 2008 at 04:25 - 175

Damn we rocking tonight

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

Mo/

19 Apr 2008 at 04:35 - 176

the power of teamwork.
this is our latest time withme holing off mindblades as we complete the last one

PhoenixFive

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

New Zealand

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [HiDE]

Mo/

19 Apr 2008 at 04:49 - 177

Bleys, lets count the amount of "PhotoShop!" spamming nubs we get.[IMG][/IMG]

Athrun Feya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oxford, UK

Hiding From Shi Tters [Shh]

19 Apr 2008 at 09:16 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elemental Labrat

So now what, the LoD alliance now holds records for FoW HM and Urgoz? Hehe we rock

And the Deep record is held by PuGs. Which is more impressive?

I still don't see why "fastest" elite mission time should be catagorised subject to build type. Like I said before, it's about the fastest times and finding the most suitable build is only part of the challenge. When looking at the sort of times we're achieving it's pretty obvious you need to do more than your standard ursan team to pull off some of these times - so there's a degree of skill invovled in the pulling, splitting or whatever else your team decides to do to speed things up.

Good job on the UW times, by the way

Game N Die

Ascalonian Squire

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CO

Scions of Carver[SCAR]

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19 Apr 2008 at 09:52 - 179

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

I still don't see why "fastest" elite mission time should be catagorised subject to build type. Like I said before, it's about the fastest times and finding the most suitable build is only part of the challenge. When looking at the sort of times we're achieving it's pretty obvious you need to do more than your standard ursan team to pull off some of these times - so there's a degree of skill invovled in the pulling, splitting or whatever else your team decides to do to speed things up.

I personally agree with this, wholeheartedly. Skill, planning, and strategery all come together in these runs. I'm not sure why some people choose to limit what builds they can use, but hey, different strokes for different folks, right? So, extremely valid point on the entire point of the thread. Just go with the fastest times period, and if others wish, they can make a new thread about fastest (whatever?..limited, traditional?) build times for elite missions.

Th Fooster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Twice Dawns The Day[WoT]

Mo/

19 Apr 2008 at 10:44 - 180

the 35 minute post we made did take huge teamwork especialy at the start we had a rough start and a few unexpected deaths and we started off slower than we normaly did but managed to tunt it around so well into a record time as a testement to our coperation and improvising our tactics on the spot. there are some really fast deep runs adn imo.. anything under 50 mins in fow is really impressive since you cant teleport around like UW.

our team splints 3 ways at once and our backline completeley changes mid map from 1 hb 1 sb to 2 sb.. and sometimes 2 hb/ sb hybyrds.
quite complicated and tough to pull off without voice coms since you dont have time to type a dam manual everytime you need to adapt to a situatuion.

we also take a pug or 2 quite often so its not always the same, and are starting to get a larger playerbase of people that are familiar with our strange tactics as a result of pugging a few.so NO you dont have to be leet to join us, you just need vent and to folow instructions.any group can pull of under an hour no vent no nothing.. if each member masters his part in the group and everyone has a good overall comprehention of the big plan. we typed up a big guide and everything when we achived 43 minutes and a few things have changed, but
that guide is still garanteeed under an hour if folowed properly.

dennisbb

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

Denmark

Spice Girls Reunion Tour [NOOO]

E/A

19 Apr 2008 at 15:16 - 181

Heres one from me aswell now that were at it

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

20 Apr 2008 at 15:40 - 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

And the Deep record is held by PuGs. Which is more impressive?

I fail to see the relevance.

Athrun Feya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oxford, UK

Hiding From Shi Tters [Shh]

20 Apr 2008 at 21:29 - 183

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeus petrus

I fail to see the relevance.

You would. But food for thought romeus, food for thought.

NiukNiuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

France

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21 Apr 2008 at 20:41 - 184

38 min urgoz hard mode, with our "Roundup team" (8P, 3N, 1Ele):

(click the picture to see it in full size)

I Eclipse The Sun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Belgium

Stop Stealing [agro]

21 Apr 2008 at 21:02 - 185

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

You would. But food for thought romeus, food for thought.

So what you're actually trying to say is you made a totally wrong statement?

Also, stating you ran with Pugs is pretty much Not-Done as you were in a team with some of the best Deepers guildwars has produced? Xiao Blood Yu, Yoko Grey, Xerox Teh Sorcerer, ...

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

21 Apr 2008 at 21:04 - 186

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiukNiuk

38 min urgoz hard mode, with our "Roundup team" (8P, 3N, 1Ele):

(click the picture to see it in full size)

That is pretty epic.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

21 Apr 2008 at 21:39 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiukNiuk

38 min urgoz hard mode, with our "Roundup team" (8P, 3N, 1Ele):

(click the picture to see it in full size)

Gotta give you credit on that.

That's fairly amazing.

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

21 Apr 2008 at 21:56 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiukNiuk

38 min urgoz hard mode, with our "Roundup team" (8P, 3N, 1Ele):

(click the picture to see it in full size)

gogogo paragons

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

22 Apr 2008 at 04:10 - 189

Beat SMS personal record and supposedly tied the Non-Ursan fow record, C/D this please.

NON-URSAN:

PS: My derv has pro play time if you didnt notice

feedmenow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Urgoz's Warren

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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22 Apr 2008 at 04:24 - 190

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

And the Deep record is held by PuGs. Which is more impressive?

I think the term PUG is rather vague, do you mean a full group of strangers who just happened to be awesome and could do everything right banded together to get a record?

On my part, I may have missed a screen or something that shows a PUG totally owning, otherwise, care to elaborate?

halbatross

Academy Page

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Stop Stealing

N/Me

22 Apr 2008 at 16:30 - 191

Quote:

Originally Posted by feedmenow

I think the term PUG is rather vague, do you mean a full group of strangers who just happened to be awesome and could do everything right banded together to get a record?

On my part, I may have missed a screen or something that shows a PUG totally owning, otherwise, care to elaborate?

No, it is a group of people who know each other and do that mission regularly. Not what I would consider a PuG, since it's not random nor a pick-up group. I've gotten a 19 minute time with this group several times now, so it's now the time to break for us.

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

22 Apr 2008 at 17:20 - 192

Ok this is not about time since our time wasn't good but it's about showing Non Ursan/Non consumable teams who use other professions than holy trinity (Sin in elite pve? para? ) can clear UW. We tried HM once but failed at 4 horsemen because signet of humility and pressure. Will try again HM and try to do faster NM because we were doing quests in no order and running around a lot.

Richardt

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22 Apr 2008 at 17:44 - 193

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiukNiuk

38 min urgoz hard mode, with our "Roundup team" (8P, 3N, 1Ele):

(click the picture to see it in full size)

Wow.

That is just awesome.

Care to share builds

Athrun Feya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oxford, UK

Hiding From Shi Tters [Shh]

22 Apr 2008 at 20:02 - 194

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Eclipse The Sun

So what you're actually trying to say is you made a totally wrong statement?

Sorry, remind me again. Who was trolling? I could say more about your whole post but I don't wish to offend anyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by feedmenow

On my part, I may have missed a screen or something that shows a PUG totally owning, otherwise, care to elaborate?

Both Deep and HM UW records are from "PuG" groups, I believe. That aside, the statement was simply set up to defend against the arrogance of certain guilds

Richardt

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22 Apr 2008 at 21:14 - 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurric

Will try again HM and try to do faster NM because we were doing quests in no order and running around a lot.

Having a cohesive path certainly helps. We shaved about an hour off of our FoW time with the right path. We were on our way to an under two hour time when one of monks DC'ed right as we aggroed a big group near the burning forest/Slaves of Menzies quest

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

22 Apr 2008 at 21:17 - 196

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardt

Having a cohesive path certainly helps. We shaved about an hour off of our FoW time with the right path. We were on our way to an under two hour time when one of monks DC'ed right as we aggroed a big group near the burning forest/Slaves of Menzies quest

one of the biggest mess ups some time is being TO careful. You dont want to avoid groups to the point where it may take more time then just to kill them or where one guy accidentally aggro's and gets killed. Some times its better to just kill a group as it doesn't take a lot of time.

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

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Urgoz Warren

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22 Apr 2008 at 21:53 - 197

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

Sorry, remind me again. Who was trolling? I could say more about your whole post but I don't wish to offend anyone.

Both Deep and HM UW records are from "PuG" groups, I believe. That aside, the statement was simply set up to defend against the arrogance of certain guilds

That depends on your definition of a "PUG". Having a few random experienced players who are willing to follow instructions in a 8-12 man team composed of people who have done a certain area over and over again and know each other's build and plan well.. hardly qualifies as a regular PUG imho.

PS. Try less smileys next time.

Game N Die

Ascalonian Squire

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CO

Scions of Carver[SCAR]

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22 Apr 2008 at 22:39 - 198

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

Beat SMS personal record and supposedly tied the Non-Ursan fow record, C/D this please.

Congrats on your 52 min. time there, but I visited the question of "formatting" the friendly competition on this post, and nobody appeared to be interested. So is your format simply "Non-Ursan"? It appears that consumables are acceptable. If you are going to limit yourselves on the skills/resources you can use, why not just go: no pve skills, no cons. At least this would seperate your build type to a greater degree than just not using one particular skill. What I'm trying to say is that if everyone wants to devise an "Open" and "Limited" format, why not just propose the limitations that you will place for the second format. If you do not do this in at least a semi-formal way, then all your post is doing is saying that you can go not quite as fast as the fastest time.

Just curious, because your post may be construed to have some derogatory connotation towards people who utilize all the tools made available by Anet.

- Tain -

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

[SMS]

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22 Apr 2008 at 23:13 - 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game N Die

Congrats on your 52 min. time there, but I visited the question of "formatting" the friendly competition on this post, and nobody appeared to be interested. So is your format simply "Non-Ursan"? It appears that consumables are acceptable. If you are going to limit yourselves on the skills/resources you can use, why not just go: no pve skills, no cons. At least this would seperate your build type to a greater degree than just not using one particular skill. What I'm trying to say is that if everyone wants to devise an "Open" and "Limited" format, why not just propose the limitations that you will place for the second format. If you do not do this in at least a semi-formal way, then all your post is doing is saying that you can go not quite as fast as the fastest time.

Just curious, because your post may be construed to have some derogatory connotation towards people who utilize all the tools made available by Anet.

It's nothing against people who use the skill, we just won't use it for various reasons. For myself, it's not so much the overpowered nature - I just dislike the principle of the Blessing skills. Replacing your skill bar makes having 7 other slots for all the other skills mostly pointless. It's not fun, and for me the best part of GW is synergy - both on your bar, and how your bar interacts with your team's. We also don't run a terra or sin to solo the burning forest for the same reason. It's just not very GW in my eyes.

We say non-ursan not because we think that makes us better than everyone else, but just because that's the context. It makes a big difference, primarily in our ability to split. A clean run with ideal spawns would land us between 45-50 mins with our current build - not faster than the "record" time, but I'm much prouder with that than if I'd been in the fastest run.

As for no cons/PvE skills, we've talked about it and will probably do it sometime. We play purely for fun, though, so we use everything we can to our advantage - just not the methods that we don't find fun. Who knows, maybe one of these days we'll also run a splitting group with ursan and a solo and blow that record out of the water

But that really just doesn't appeal to me.

Please, don't turn this into an ursan debate. This is purely an explanation of my view of why we do it the way we do, and why we post it the way we do.

Game N Die

Ascalonian Squire

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23 Apr 2008 at 00:22 - 200

Thanks for the response, Tain. No, an Ursan debate is actually the furthest from what I wish to get going so thanks for that last line for ALL to read. My motive to raise this issue is actually along the lines of jealousy toward what the pvp crowd gets, as far as the sponsored tourneys arranged by Anet (I think). I was actually hoping that we could come up with a couple of different formats in pve style play that would help attract a larger crowd to this thread. Let's face it, there are plenty of people on either side of the ursan fence. If everyone could agree on a format of play that was limited in it's build construction, then more guilds may be more interested in competing using that format. The greater amount of community involvement that we can generate here, maybe, just maybe Anet may take notice and show some of us PvEers some love, too. I know it's a long shot, but so is hoping to get a voltaic spear from slaver's, but that hasn't stopped me