GW PLEASE take my money..

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:12 - 281
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Originally Posted by Diva Signet
Yep, and it's nothing I haven't heard before. Whether I believe what you're saying or not is irrelevant, one of two things is happening if you want to buy gold. A) You're not playing the game well enough to make the gold to get max weps/armor (you're doing it wrong), or B) You want more bling to show off in game, which is pathetic to trade real life money for (you're still doing it wrong).
You have not read all 14 pages, otherwise you would not be saying this to me. I'll spell it out as I don't mind repeating myeslf. I currently have 22 characters over 3 accounts. I like to try out new builds that I read on here and in pvxwiki, I need skills and elites to try these builds out. Hmm, I need money, lots of money. I can only play a few hours a night, tonight being an exception where I've pent the entire night on here wasting my breath (and believe me I know I'm wasting my breath. Obviously if I wanted to instigate change I would not be doing it though here, I would create a business case for it and present it to ANet directly.)

So, in a nutshell, I like to make Barbies as one poster eloquently put it and I like to dress those Barbies up with lots of neato builds and it costs a lot and I have to waste the minimal amount of time I have to play this game farming.

Seriously need to cut and paste this on every page.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:14 - 282
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Dude. Harsh. Harsh.

Are you that cruel to children?
Only my own.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:14 - 283
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
You have not read all 14 pages, otherwise you would not be saying this to me. I'll spell it out as I don't mind repeating myeslf. I currently have 22 characters over 3 accounts. I like to try out new builds that I read on here and in pvxwiki, I need skills and elites to try these builds out. Hmm, I need money, lots of money. I can only play a few hours a night, tonight being an exception where I've pent the entire night on here wasting my breath (and believe me I know I'm wasting my breath. Obviously if I wanted to instigate change I would not be doing it though here, I would create a business case for it and present it to ANet directly.)

So, in a nutshell, I like to make Barbies as one poster eloquently put it and I like to dress those Barbies up with lots of neato builds and it costs a lot and I have to waste the minimal amount of time I have to play this game farming.

Seriously need to cut and paste this on every page.
I think I found the problem. 22 characters over 3 accounts? You're definitely doing it wrong.

What added benefit over having 1 account with 10 characters are you getting out of this? No wonder you don't have money, it's the same as trying to support 22 animals, you'll bankrupt yourself buying dog food and the cats will starve

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:16 - 284
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You shouldn't have asked that as everyone in our office plays golf and bowls and we are all over 50 and we also have WOW accounts along with playing GW for a change of scenery. We are all baby boomers bud. You picked the wrong person to ask those questions to. hahah +1 for me. Oh and btw some of us own WII's a well.
In my office. Only about 300, they're all Dr.'s Pharm D's and RN's. All baby boomers. None of them have even heard of WoW. Let alone MMORPG....strangley enough EVERYONE knows the wii...hm maybe that mainsteam thing has something going for it.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:16 - 285
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
You have not read all 14 pages, otherwise you would not be saying this to me. I'll spell it out as I don't mind repeating myeslf. I currently have 22 characters over 3 accounts. I like to try out new builds that I read on here and in pvxwiki, I need skills and elites to try these builds out. Hmm, I need money, lots of money. I can only play a few hours a night, tonight being an exception where I've pent the entire night on here wasting my breath (and believe me I know I'm wasting my breath. Obviously if I wanted to instigate change I would not be doing it though here, I would create a business case for it and present it to ANet directly.)

So, in a nutshell, I like to make Barbies as one poster eloquently put it and I like to dress those Barbies up with lots of neato builds and it costs a lot and I have to waste the minimal amount of time I have to play this game farming.

Seriously need to cut and paste this on every page.
DO IT! NOOOOOOOOOOOW!

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:19 - 286
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
You have not read all 14 pages, otherwise you would not be saying this to me. I'll spell it out as I don't mind repeating myeslf. I currently have 22 characters over 3 accounts. I like to try out new builds that I read on here and in pvxwiki, I need skills and elites to try these builds out. Hmm, I need money, lots of money. I can only play a few hours a night, tonight being an exception where I've pent the entire night on here wasting my breath (and believe me I know I'm wasting my breath. Obviously if I wanted to instigate change I would not be doing it though here, I would create a business case for it and present it to ANet directly.)

So, in a nutshell, I like to make Barbies as one poster eloquently put it and I like to dress those Barbies up with lots of neato builds and it costs a lot and I have to waste the minimal amount of time I have to play this game farming.

Seriously need to cut and paste this on every page.
Thing is you're one of those outcasts, you're out in left field while the majority of players are in right field. Anet is not going ot cater to you they are not going to change things to make you happy. They are going to do what is best for the majority 99.9% of the time something that will benefit ALL in an almost equal manner and this my friend is not something the majority would want. Maybe if you got a life and didn't play GW so much (which anyone who plays 22 different characters really needs a life and some help in life) you might find you don't need out of game gold to have fun. Go bowling, play golf, get away from that one-eyed devil you obviously spend way too much time in front of.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:19 - 287
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
You have not read all 14 pages, otherwise you would not be saying this to me. I'll spell it out as I don't mind repeating myeslf. I currently have 22 characters over 3 accounts. I like to try out new builds that I read on here and in pvxwiki, I need skills and elites to try these builds out. Hmm, I need money, lots of money. I can only play a few hours a night, tonight being an exception where I've pent the entire night on here wasting my breath (and believe me I know I'm wasting my breath. Obviously if I wanted to instigate change I would not be doing it though here, I would create a business case for it and present it to ANet directly.)

So, in a nutshell, I like to make Barbies as one poster eloquently put it and I like to dress those Barbies up with lots of neato builds and it costs a lot and I have to waste the minimal amount of time I have to play this game farming.

Seriously need to cut and paste this on every page.
I believe that falls under option B: you like to have bling in game and want to pay real life money for it. [email protected] - you just proved my point.

You don't need lots of money, it's maximum one platinum for a skill and a whole bar would be a maximum of eight. How long does it take to make eight platinum? That falls under category A: you're doing it wrong because you can't support yourself. Each character should be self supportive, so it doesn't matter how many you have.

I have read all 14 pages - that's why I outlined the ways you're doing it wrong in my original post. =)

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:19 - 288
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Only my own.
I'm going to tie my self down and write a big note on my stomach:

"HIT MEH! BEHBEH!"

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:20 - 289
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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
Elite skills are open to anyone with a signet of capture. I should know, I've got all of them.

You can play barbie all you want, armor and dye isn't expensive at all. Pretty sure I made enough for a 15k set over 2 days (maybe a week if you've got limited time)

Opening the game to a wider audience? Anyone with $50 and a computer can play. That's a pretty big audience.
OK...my lvl 11 mesmer...how do I Cap illusionary weaponry to test a build idea?? Please, let me know something that won't take three weeks of two hours a day of playing. Orrrr...I could buy a leet mez tome and test the build NOW! see that it sucks and move on to something else.

Point 2: I like to p[lay Barbie...see above on making Barbie do cool shit with magic.

Point 3: Most people, if they DID bother to pick up this game, would play for 2 weeks to a month, get pissed off about the inability to get stuff and quit. ANet would have a unique opportunity.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:22 - 290
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
In my office. Only about 300, they're all Dr.'s Pharm D's and RN's. All baby boomers. None of them have even heard of WoW. Let alone MMORPG....strangley enough EVERYONE knows the wii...hm maybe that mainsteam thing has something going for it.
Lol 300 people in an OFFICE hahahaha maybe if they were typing secretaries I might have believed that, but, 300 Dr. Nurses and Pharm all in one OFFICE hahahah sorry but you just lost all credibility for lack of smarts. Anyone who's in those professions wouldn't be playing some silly kids game with 22 characters. If they are they need some of those other 299 other peoples help there.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:24 - 291
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I think I found the problem. 22 characters over 3 accounts? You're definitely doing it wrong.

What added benefit over having 1 account with 10 characters are you getting out of this? No wonder you don't have money, it's the same as trying to support 22 animals, you'll bankrupt yourself buying dog food and the cats will starve
Couldn't agree more, but I'm down to like 14 on one account that I play regularly. Sucks cow teat, but my wife and i like to make new characters.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:24 - 292
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
OK...my lvl 11 mesmer...how do I Cap illusionary weaponry to test a build idea?? Please, let me know something that won't take three weeks of two hours a day of playing. Orrrr...I could buy a leet mez tome and test the build NOW! see that it sucks and move on to something else.

Point 2: I like to p[lay Barbie...see above on making Barbie do cool shit with magic.

Point 3: Most people, if they DID bother to pick up this game, would play for 2 weeks to a month, get pissed off about the inability to get stuff and quit. ANet would have a unique opportunity.
Point 1: Roll a PVP slot. How do you plan to test a build on a lv 11 and get any real results?

Point 2: You didn't make a point here.

Point 3: I've gotten dozens of people into this game. Some don't play for time restraints. Some don't play because they didn't like the game. Some still play. I've never met anyone who ever said "It's too hard to get stuff, I quit." People with that attitude don't deserve to have stuff, because they're the whiners who aren't willing to work for a reward.

Edit: If you want Illusionary Weaponry on your lv 11 that bad....
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Illusionary_Weaponry
Get a run to droks, 2-3k, tops. Some people do it for tips, or free.
Get a cap sig. If you're only lv 11 it should be 200-500 gold
Cap it right outside Rankor. Saved yourself at least 5 plat with a little thinking and research.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:25 - 293
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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
Point 1: Roll a PVP slot. How do you plan to test a build on a lv 11 and get any real results?

Point 2: You didn't make a point here.

Point 3: I've gotten dozens of people into this game. Some don't play for time restraints. Some don't play because they didn't like the game. Some still play. I've never met anyone who ever said "It's too hard to get stuff, I quit." People with that attitude don't deserve to have stuff, because they're the whiners who aren't willing to work for a reward.
point 2 was a reply to your second paragraph

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:27 - 294
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point 2 was a reply to your second paragraph
Given that every character can acquire any armor sets, you can play dress up all you want with 10 characters. My point still stands.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:28 - 295
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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
Point 1: Roll a PVP slot. How do you plan to test a build on a lv 11 and get any real results?

Point 2: You didn't make a point here.

Point 3: I've gotten dozens of people into this game. Some don't play for time restraints. Some don't play because they didn't like the game. Some still play. I've never met anyone who ever said "It's too hard to get stuff, I quit." People with that attitude don't deserve to have stuff, because they're the whiners who aren't willing to work for a reward.
See and i thought the whiners were the ones who would be upset that their time farming was replaced with money spenders

As to the lvl 11 test, it's not that hard. make a new character and try it.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:29 - 296
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Given that every character can acquire any armor sets, you can play dress up all you want with 10 characters. My point still stands.
Unless ofcourse u want to change haircolor/face/body type...oh yeah and sex.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:31 - 297
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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
Point 1: Roll a PVP slot. How do you plan to test a build on a lv 11 and get any real results?

Point 2: You didn't make a point here.

Point 3: I've gotten dozens of people into this game. Some don't play for time restraints. Some don't play because they didn't like the game. Some still play. I've never met anyone who ever said "It's too hard to get stuff, I quit." People with that attitude don't deserve to have stuff, because they're the whiners who aren't willing to work for a reward.

Edit: If you want Illusionary Weaponry on your lv 11 that bad....
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Illusionary_Weaponry
Get a run to droks, 2-3k, tops. Some people do it for tips, or free.
Get a cap sig. If you're only lv 11 it should be 200-500 gold
Cap it right outside Rankor. Saved yourself at least 5 plat with a little thinking and research.
Great! thanks! One down...400 to go!

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:31 - 298
People who spend more time playing, SHOULD get more rewards, gold, titles etc than those that don't. Buying Gold would remove this.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:32 - 299
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Lol 300 people in an OFFICE hahahaha maybe if they were typing secretaries I might have believed that, but, 300 Dr. Nurses and Pharm all in one OFFICE hahahah sorry but you just lost all credibility for lack of smarts. Anyone who's in those professions wouldn't be playing some silly kids game with 22 characters. If they are they need some of those other 299 other peoples help there.
youre a moron. micromedex.com look it up braniac. you think drug information databases make themselves?

oh ya, and you're right they dont play guild wars! They all want a Wii!

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:32 - 300
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Unless ofcourse u want to change haircolor/face/body type...oh yeah and sex.
So do you get plastic surgery or a sex change every week when you're not satisfied with what you see in the mirror?

If you're complaining about a lack of money and you're the one causing the problem to yourself, then don't cry to ANET to fix it for you.


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See and i thought the whiners were the ones who would be upset that their time farming was replaced with money spenders

As to the lvl 11 test, it's not that hard. make a new character and try it.
So why are you testing builds on lv 11's? What is there to test on? What can you test it on that matters at that stage of the game? Why wouldn't lv 20 results give you better information in every way?

If you want to play Barbie that bad...
http://barbie.everythinggirl.com/
No one's stopping you.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:33 - 301
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Point 3: Most people, if they DID bother to pick up this game, would play for 2 weeks to a month, get pissed off about the inability to get stuff and quit. ANet would have a unique opportunity.
Huh? In Guild Wars you don't HAVE TO get stuff. Try playing true MMORPG's like WoW or Lineage 2. Then you'll see what means ,,inability to get stuff''.

Unique opportunity? You know how many games have money -> game money transfer? GunZ, Gunbound, Ragnarok Online (although those items from RO don't help so much and are pretty expensive for what they offer) and I can also count Fury's ,,pay to get better and more items'' subscription, same goes for Dungeon Runners. And guess what, all those games (except for RO) have less than 2k active players. Most of people get bored, because they don't have real life money to get better items and get pwned by people with cash from rl. You really want GW to fail? Wasn't releasing GWEN enough?

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:33 - 302
I can see everybody walking in FoW Armour already.
I can see storages full of stacks Glob of Ectoplasm
1,000,000 in every storage

/signed ... not

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:34 - 303
Rewarding players with drops & gold is part of the storyline,buying gold would break EVERYTHING.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:34 - 304
Now I know he's not a professional he resorted to childish name calling. I think we can all just ignore this ModTerrik now. He thinks just because he posted some website that that makes his statements legit. lmao. Nice try Mod but, I see right through you now....next player please? <grin>

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:35 - 305
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Unless ofcourse u want to change haircolor/face/body type...oh yeah and sex.
Seeing how you would say something like that, I don't believe the problem you are presenting resides within the fact that it is difficult to earn wealth in the game, but I believe the problem resides within yourself. Don't you think that the rest of the community will also face a restriction of changing haircolor, face, body type and even gender? Of course, it is more or less a matter of choice to create a new character and start off, and everyone has the option to do that. However, everyone will also face the consequence of regaining the skills this character needs, and you won't be an exception.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:37 - 306
Wow this thread is growing fast Oo.

Well all i have to say to the op is that, assuming you play the game for fun (which SHOULD be the case), and your finding gold limitations are preventing you from doing so, then you shouldn't be asking Anet, for the option to purchase in game gold.

Rather, you should be asking Anet for improved access to in game items/skills that are required for the game to be fun.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:50 - 307
I am SERIOUSLY wondering if that thread is a JOKE or if GW GF is avtaully ASKING to be able to PAY for GUILD WARS money? ? ?

Sounds a bit too serious to be instantly classified as a joke.
Still he actually seem to be serious, or most other people seem to be at least.

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:54 - 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModTerrik
*Snip*

oh ya, and you're right they dont play guild wars! They all want a Wii!
I got a wii, I'd rather be playing GW.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omnidragon42
*Snip*
If you want to play Barbie that bad...
http://barbie.everythinggirl.com/
No one's stopping you.
Pawned. [=

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ModTerrik(sp?)

This defineitley wont be introduced into Guild Wars. The A-net team already know the economy is screwed up bad and I think they're smart enough to kill it even more. You can always hope it's put into GW 2 right? xD

My knee feels warm [=

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:56 - 309
How pathetic would someone have to be to buy in-game gold?

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20 Apr 2008 at 12:59 - 310
I know one person. So pathetic that he had to buy 60 ists (one of medium-high end runes) in Diablo 2 just to feel ,,good''. Too bad he sucks at both GW and D2 ;d

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:05 - 311
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How pathetic would someone have to be to buy in-game gold?
Pathetic enough to realize that in the time it takes to farm X amount of gold, they could work a real job and earn enough money to buy that amount and have plenty left over.

I farmed ridiculous amounts of gold in-game, and I consider it largely a waste of time in retrospect, though I did enjoy it in a sad, hoarder way. I ended up giving quite a bit away so that in-game friends didn't have to worry about cash. I wouldn't buy GW gold with real money, but I know many who have because because they didn't want to grind PvE (especially when top PvE gear was necessary, pre-NF, for PvP).

ANet took a huge step in the right direction with PvP characters after NF and unlockable inscriptions for them. Allowing items and maybe skins to be purchasable in a similar fashion for PvE in GW2 wouldn't hurt the game much, though gold buying might be a bit over the top. That would depend on the economy and use for money in GW2. ANet doesn't have much reason to sell gold in GW1 - though they could probably squeeze in a bit of extra profit from it if they really wanted.

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:09 - 312
Mk. Here's the deal.

This thread is about allowing players to buy gold. Not ModTerrik's idiosyncratic way of playing GW. So, to bring this back on topic. I'd like people to post valid reasons as to why GW should NOT sell gold. After 16 pages I've seen 2 reasons.

1: Don't make my leet stuff that I wasted days on less leet
A. Give them a magic marker, give them a special FoW armor dance. There you go, you're still special. Facetious, a little, but you get the idea.

2. It'll ruin the economy.
Seen about 4 different ways from users as to how mitigate inflation. An actual economist would probably be able to find even more.
Sell only items for cash
Make the cash too expensive to buy
>>>But then people will still buy illegally
>>>>>>and they will be banned
Slowly release money into the market place via a reservation system
Fix item prices for all items

Any other reasons than the above two? Any other novel solutions? Rather than focusing and whining about how it would ruin the game, why don't you do something productive and see if you can find a way to make it work.

Benefits:
1. Anet makes bank, I mean Bank. Anet hires more programmers, GW2 comes out earlier. Anet sees quicker ROI. We all win.
2. New Players with minimal time investment opportunities can have access to the entire game without waiting three years.
3. Completely personal one, I can continue testing builds and keep the game fresh to me
4. Balances game between Time Farmers and RL money farmers. If you don't have time or money? Damn...you got me on that one.

I'll let everyone in on a little secret. I've got close to 1200 hours played across all accounts and I still have yet to finish any campaign. Hard mode is unavailable to me. Makes me chuckle when I think about it.

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:10 - 313
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Allowing items and maybe skins to be purchasable in a similar fashion for PvE in GW2 wouldn't hurt the game much.
This is one of the better ways to mitigate this discussion, with the following stipulations:

Not uber-elite skins
Not fully modded
Customized and untradeable.

Think the Game of the Year and Preorder items. I'm down for more of those.

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:12 - 314
I find the idea of legitimate gold selling rather helpful for people who can't find time to commit much to the game and want nice stuffs. Its actually not a bad idea, but implementing it will be really tough though. Quite a few issues to consider and side effects to deal with.

But then again, this thread has somehow degenerated a great deal and I think at least a good 90% is off topic

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:13 - 315
Seriously, one of the things GW has really going for it is the complete LACK of need to grind for cash.

I mean, any given character needs maybe a 1.5k armour set, so that's 6k for shoes through to tops, then probably three headpieces, so another 4.5k.

Then runes for that, let's say sup vigor + other stuffs comes to maybe 40k

Then (if you're not playing through prophecies where skills are wonderfully available as quest rewards), you might need another 20k to get a decent skillset.

Weapons, if not collector-obtained, could be bought for 10k or so.

That's under 100k for a fully equipped, fully usable character: it needs nothing more. And that's assuming you don't find half the stuff you need (I usually end up finding suitable runes/insignias while killing stuff, so rarely need to buy anything other than the sup vigor).

EVERYTHING ELSE is just vanity. Purely vanity.


You don't need gold to play GW, you need gold to show off in GW.

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:15 - 316
I agree with Avarre. Gold does not give any specific player advantage, only vanity appeal. NCSoft is already moving in that direction. There was a post on the forums with players quaking in fear of GW2 having this option in it. The "hardcore" player can be rewarded with quest only items that cannot be bought similar to "binds on pickup" effect from WoW.(Yes I said the W word, now grabbing my flame-retardant suit. No, I don't play WoW even if I do know about the game.)
Why this causes such an uproar when gold only purchases VANITY items I don't think I can understand. To those who think FoW armor actually means anything other than vanity I fail to understand either. Meh, doesn't matter to me either way. I know full well the economy would still require players to farm materials, rare items, and runes regardless so that option would still exist for those who have "fun" from repeatedly farming for said items.
To those who said they would quit the game if everyone had FoW armor....why are you playing then? To only show e-peen from yours? How do the pixels that decorate someone elses character in any way what-so-ever negatively impact your enjoyment of the game itself? Guess I'm just too old to understand....

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:18 - 317
LOL.

I was just looking at NCSoft's quartely Earning report and GW revenue has been cut in half from Q4 06 to Q4 07. Selling money in game=increased shareholder value!

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:20 - 318
To those People saying ANet cares about their rules. Well they don't at all.

In the last monthly GvG tournament [rawr] won it, but at the same time they had an ANet employee in their guild which goes by the name of Andrew Patrick.

Reading through their Rules
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Originally Posted by ANet
All Guild Wars players and guilds who meet the eligibility requirements set forth herein are eligible to compete in this online tournament series. All Guild Wars guilds are eligible to compete in the 2008 Tournament Series championships except those that include employees or contractors of NCsoft or ArenaNet, their respective subsidiaries or affiliates, their advertising or promotion agencies, those who are domiciled with any such person, or those who have been disqualified for other reasons (see below). This is a skill-based tournament based on each guild's or individual's ability to defeat other guilds or individuals.
We can see its against their Rules. Did [rawr] get penalized for it? Nope

And for Proof AP was in rawr, looky here

Omnidragon42

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:21 - 319
O Hai Nebu!

btw I disbanded RnR over a year ago, you might want to change your profile

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Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I
To those People saying ANet cares about their rules. Well they don't at all.

In the last monthly GvG tournament [rawr] won it, but at the same time they had an ANet employee in their guild which goes by the name of Andrew Patrick.

Reading through their Rules
We can see its against their Rules. Did [rawr] get penalized for it? Nope

And for Proof AP was in rawr, looky here
Andrew was in rawr to help them coordinate the rawr cup. He's not an actual member of the guild. Special circumstances lead to exceptions methinks.

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20 Apr 2008 at 13:24 - 320
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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
A. Give them a magic marker, give them a special FoW armor dance. There you go, you're still special. Facetious, a little, but you get the idea.
Have you even thought about the logistics of such a thing?

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Sell only items for cash
The people who farmed the items get upset, see above for response to that.

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Make the cash too expensive to buy
>>>But then people will still buy illegally
>>>>>>and they will be banned
How is that any different than the status quo, so why change anything?

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Slowly release money into the market place via a reservation system
Then you get the people left out, and isn't that the whole point is to not get people "left out" because they can't make enough money?

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Originally Posted by ModTerrik
Fix item prices for all items
Yeah, that'll work. Anet sets the price for every single item in game? Lol.

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Any other reasons than the above two? Any other novel solutions? Rather than focusing and whining about how it would ruin the game, why don't you do something productive and see if you can find a way to make it work.
Because it shouldn't work. You're taking away the fun of the game for the farmers, and since you're such a big fan of letting people play the game how they want to, why don't you consider the people you're hurting? The people who want and are able to buy gold are a minority, and the majority would be set back. Not a good marketing scheme for Anet.

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I'll let everyone in on a little secret. I've got close to 1200 hours played across all accounts and I still have yet to finish any campaign. Hard mode is unavailable to me. Makes me chuckle when I think about it.
You're doing it wrong.