Soloing UW in HM as A/Me (Image Heavy)
masta_yoda
dont need to be constricted to a/me after the update
Super Igor
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nice guide, +1.
nice guide, +1.
Abedeus
Best if you make A/E, get a Conjure + glyph of swiftness and auto-attack for the win. Maybe Critical Agility for more uber pwnage.
ACreator
the problem it that u will still be limited to A/Me because of energy.....
English Warrior
it wont be 44 seconds SF at 15 is 36 with 20% mod.
afya
Tried just [skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill]+[skill]Shadow Form[/skill]+20% mod
doesn't work
[skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill]+[skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill]+[skill]Shadow Form[/skill]+20% mod
Works however
doesn't work
[skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill]+[skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill]+[skill]Shadow Form[/skill]+20% mod
Works however
yomamayomama
unfortunately using the glyph of swiftness means no mes...and so far, i for one, have not found a suitable mana gain as A/E to perpetually farm stuff 
on the OTHER hand, with this original build i can easily farm tomb of primeval kings (prophecies dessert...ya remember that? lol)
i can do the first lvl in a clean easy 10 minutes flat ^_^ on average rack a gd 1 ecto 1 lockpick and 1 warrior tomb
whats cool is it can probably do all of lvl 2 and the rest as well (i havent had enuf time to check thoroughly but i do kno this)
the worms knock u down but u need only stay still and farm right where they popup to kill them (just dont hex them.....ionno why but it tends to get ripped off/disapear early)
*shrug* anyhow, thats my two cents worth, free entry, almost forsure drop, and super easy ^_^ now that u have so much lee-way to cast SF....oh, and they die faster than lvl 32 aatxes -_-'''
on the OTHER hand, with this original build i can easily farm tomb of primeval kings (prophecies dessert...ya remember that? lol)
i can do the first lvl in a clean easy 10 minutes flat ^_^ on average rack a gd 1 ecto 1 lockpick and 1 warrior tomb
whats cool is it can probably do all of lvl 2 and the rest as well (i havent had enuf time to check thoroughly but i do kno this)
the worms knock u down but u need only stay still and farm right where they popup to kill them (just dont hex them.....ionno why but it tends to get ripped off/disapear early)
*shrug* anyhow, thats my two cents worth, free entry, almost forsure drop, and super easy ^_^ now that u have so much lee-way to cast SF....oh, and they die faster than lvl 32 aatxes -_-'''
masta_yoda
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Originally Posted by ACreator
the problem it that u will still be limited to A/Me because of energy.....
try it yourself first pls, theres also something called glyph of lesser energy
ccruzp
yeah, you need 30 energy every 34-36 seconds and you regen 40 energy every 30 secs, 30 energy every 30 if ur using a zeal dagger (plus 1 per hit) but that wont work on smites, aatxes and possibly other stuff. so i guess its swiftness,paradox, SF and a nucking bar for uw if u want to go a/e, its idiot proff though
Abedeus
Hehe this rocks. Here's a nice build for mesmer:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1374/gw559qs8.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1374/gw559qs8.jpg
petrorabbit
I'd like to say good job to Teotuf and TarjaTeOrteyn for the build and guide.
It looks like with the pve/pvp update, this may unfortunately become obselete due to A/E requiring less attention to maintain [Glyph of Swiftness][Feigned Neutrality] and [Shadow Form].
On the other hand, Me/A seems like it can use this template with success now.
All in all, thanks for sharing this with us.
It looks like with the pve/pvp update, this may unfortunately become obselete due to A/E requiring less attention to maintain [Glyph of Swiftness][Feigned Neutrality] and [Shadow Form].
On the other hand, Me/A seems like it can use this template with success now.
All in all, thanks for sharing this with us.
kostolomac
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Hehe this rocks. Here's a nice build for mesmer:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1374/gw559qs8.jpg I have been running this build , but i don't know anything about uw
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1374/gw559qs8.jpg I have been running this build , but i don't know anything about uw
Keiga
hi im having some problems with the argo in HM they all the time run away just the attxe that im targeting still with me and im right in the the place btha you are can you explain me howb to do to they still all the time with me like you do??
Covah
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Originally Posted by Keiga
hi im having some problems with the argo in HM they all the time run away just the attxe that im targeting still with me and im right in the the place btha you are can you explain me howb to do to they still all the time with me like you do??
Their left side has to be touching a wall so they won't scatter, they will stop attacking, but won't scatter.
ProgTes
What I use is this:
[wandering eye][deadly paradox][arcane echo][shadow form][ether nightmare][cry of pain][spirit of failure][dash]
10+3+1 shadow, 12 inspiration, the rest in illusion. Wandering eye speeds up the killing process a lot and I can't be arsed to gring reputation to go for radiation field or something similar. r2 alliance faction and r6 sunspear and it takes me 40 minutes to clean the entire labyrinth + plains. If anyone has any suggestions or good alternatives, I'd love to know
This builds works like a charm. Great work teotuf!
[wandering eye][deadly paradox][arcane echo][shadow form][ether nightmare][cry of pain][spirit of failure][dash]
10+3+1 shadow, 12 inspiration, the rest in illusion. Wandering eye speeds up the killing process a lot and I can't be arsed to gring reputation to go for radiation field or something similar. r2 alliance faction and r6 sunspear and it takes me 40 minutes to clean the entire labyrinth + plains. If anyone has any suggestions or good alternatives, I'd love to know
This builds works like a charm. Great work teotuf!
teotuf
w/ the new update, the run to chaos planes is easier than ever!
now if you skip the aatxes and go straight for the chaos planes, it can be done in HM in under 35 min, and under 25 min in NM
i also updated the guide with a video of the run to chaos planes after the update, hopefully that'll answer many ppl's question about which path to take, what to do etc.
another thing is the new a/e sliver build. it is perfectly capable of doing this as well, albeit slower. i'm saying this by comparing the marginal damage for aggroing 1 more enemy. for the a/me build, its about 18/sec, for the a/e build, its about 30/2 = 15/sec assuming that the avg time for sliver to be up is 1/2 of the time, and that mobs atk/cast at a avg rate of once/sec.
altho slower, the a/e version is able to do the spawning pool, so it all depends on the preference of the user.
now if you skip the aatxes and go straight for the chaos planes, it can be done in HM in under 35 min, and under 25 min in NM
i also updated the guide with a video of the run to chaos planes after the update, hopefully that'll answer many ppl's question about which path to take, what to do etc.
another thing is the new a/e sliver build. it is perfectly capable of doing this as well, albeit slower. i'm saying this by comparing the marginal damage for aggroing 1 more enemy. for the a/me build, its about 18/sec, for the a/e build, its about 30/2 = 15/sec assuming that the avg time for sliver to be up is 1/2 of the time, and that mobs atk/cast at a avg rate of once/sec.
altho slower, the a/e version is able to do the spawning pool, so it all depends on the preference of the user.
Marverick
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Originally Posted by yomamayomama
unfortunately using the glyph of swiftness means no mes...and so far, i for one, have not found a suitable mana gain as A/E to perpetually farm stuff
on the OTHER hand, with this original build i can easily farm tomb of primeval kings (prophecies dessert...ya remember that? lol)
i can do the first lvl in a clean easy 10 minutes flat ^_^ on average rack a gd 1 ecto 1 lockpick and 1 warrior tomb
whats cool is it can probably do all of lvl 2 and the rest as well (i havent had enuf time to check thoroughly but i do kno this)
the worms knock u down but u need only stay still and farm right where they popup to kill them (just dont hex them.....ionno why but it tends to get ripped off/disapear early)
*shrug* anyhow, thats my two cents worth, free entry, almost forsure drop, and super easy ^_^ now that u have so much lee-way to cast SF....oh, and they die faster than lvl 32 aatxes -_-''' Are you serious, 1 ecto per first level??????
I did three ToPK runs, clearing the first level (4-5 minutes) and everything that drops ecto on the second level (ignoring most of the grasps/scythes, especially ones near wurms).
No ectos at all.
on the OTHER hand, with this original build i can easily farm tomb of primeval kings (prophecies dessert...ya remember that? lol)
i can do the first lvl in a clean easy 10 minutes flat ^_^ on average rack a gd 1 ecto 1 lockpick and 1 warrior tomb
whats cool is it can probably do all of lvl 2 and the rest as well (i havent had enuf time to check thoroughly but i do kno this)
the worms knock u down but u need only stay still and farm right where they popup to kill them (just dont hex them.....ionno why but it tends to get ripped off/disapear early)
*shrug* anyhow, thats my two cents worth, free entry, almost forsure drop, and super easy ^_^ now that u have so much lee-way to cast SF....oh, and they die faster than lvl 32 aatxes -_-''' Are you serious, 1 ecto per first level??????
I did three ToPK runs, clearing the first level (4-5 minutes) and everything that drops ecto on the second level (ignoring most of the grasps/scythes, especially ones near wurms).
No ectos at all.
English Warrior
im having problem withs the obsidian behemoths im wearing my norn shield and totem axe but they still attack and kill me.
ProgTes
Precast shadow form before entering the behemoth area, you have to recast 2 times and if you do that while not under nature's renewal it's still doable without gettin the charged blacknesses after you.
SimonSez
What is the secret about keeping aggro? Keeping their left side against a wall? And in a corner? Please tell me.
stef247
Hey there,
nice build overall, takes some practice but I can handle the pulling in the chamber and the run through the mountains now.
However, I ALWAYS have this problem:
A mob of nasty charged blacknesses in front of the last gate to the chaos plains. I don't know how to get past them, because they KD and kill (or the traps do)
Can you give me any advice?
nice build overall, takes some practice but I can handle the pulling in the chamber and the run through the mountains now.
However, I ALWAYS have this problem:
A mob of nasty charged blacknesses in front of the last gate to the chaos plains. I don't know how to get past them, because they KD and kill (or the traps do)
Can you give me any advice?
traeskapa
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Originally Posted by stef247
Hey there,
nice build overall, takes some practice but I can handle the pulling in the chamber and the run through the mountains now.
However, I ALWAYS have this problem:
A mob of nasty charged blacknesses in front of the last gate to the chaos plains. I don't know how to get past them, because they KD and kill (or the traps do)
Can you give me any advice?
They only get there is if you're too slow, or that's what happens to me when I get stuck in a trap, or get snared up there in some way. I just solve this by running faster.
nice build overall, takes some practice but I can handle the pulling in the chamber and the run through the mountains now.
However, I ALWAYS have this problem:
A mob of nasty charged blacknesses in front of the last gate to the chaos plains. I don't know how to get past them, because they KD and kill (or the traps do)
Can you give me any advice?
They only get there is if you're too slow, or that's what happens to me when I get stuck in a trap, or get snared up there in some way. I just solve this by running faster.
Hikeotron
When do the charged darknesses start their patrol to end up there?
Do you mean from when you enter uw? or when you say.. pass the first behemoths?
Do you mean from when you enter uw? or when you say.. pass the first behemoths?
teotuf
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Originally Posted by Hikeotron
When do the charged darknesses start their patrol to end up there?
Do you mean from when you enter uw? or when you say.. pass the first behemoths? in the video of the run on the first page, when i say "this is where you would normally use dark escape" is when the charged blackness start their patrol. once u reach that point, u cannot stop (feigned neutrality will even mess you up, and that's 1/4 of a sec) if you want to avoid the charged darkness
Do you mean from when you enter uw? or when you say.. pass the first behemoths? in the video of the run on the first page, when i say "this is where you would normally use dark escape" is when the charged blackness start their patrol. once u reach that point, u cannot stop (feigned neutrality will even mess you up, and that's 1/4 of a sec) if you want to avoid the charged darkness
English Warrior
i could kiss you for this build off my last run i dc/ed b4 the bone pits and couldnt reconnect but got 9 ectos off the chaos plains
Hikeotron
finally tried it awesome. finally understand the information about the charged darknesses cheers, got round them no problem.
the only problem is that roughly around 1:4 i cant get round the behemoths ach - no healing ftl.
awesome. finally understand the information about the charged darknesses cheers, got round them no problem.the only problem is that roughly around 1:4 i cant get round the behemoths
ach - no healing ftl.
Narcissia
has anyone tried this as a Me/A? if so, does it work well?
mwaddoups
The recharge on shadow form is slightly tighter but still doable (particularly with the recent buff). You won't really gain anything from it as no mes attribute skills are involved, and it makes the chain slightly harder, but it definitely works.
Narcissia
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Originally Posted by mwaddoups
The recharge on shadow form is slightly tighter but still doable (particularly with the recent buff). You won't really gain anything from it as no mes attribute skills are involved, and it makes the chain slightly harder, but it definitely works.
was just wondering. thanx
mwaddoups
No problem :P.
By the way, this build is awesome. I think the only skill possibly worth changing is feigned neutrality for some of the PvE skills in EotN (which I haven't been able to get yet). Even then, FN serves a good purpose if you screw up SF. Possible other replacements could be channeling, or maybe smoke powder defence (combined with SoF to gain energy quickly, channeling probably more effective though).
By the way, this build is awesome. I think the only skill possibly worth changing is feigned neutrality for some of the PvE skills in EotN (which I haven't been able to get yet). Even then, FN serves a good purpose if you screw up SF. Possible other replacements could be channeling, or maybe smoke powder defence (combined with SoF to gain energy quickly, channeling probably more effective though).
Taisayacho
truly brilliant. I'm still practicing on good ol' darkroot entrop, but I think I've almost got it down enough. Great guide mate.
EthanLightheart
why are aatxes always running when getting below 20%?-.- I tried 9 minutes and didnt get the last lot down
MisterT69
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Originally Posted by EthanLightheart
why are aatxes always running when getting below 20%?-.- I tried 9 minutes and didnt get the last lot down
gotta pull em to choke points so they can't escape and you can kill them a lot easier that way.
Jebus
So, what is currently the best build to do this with?
teotuf
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Originally Posted by Jebus
So, what is currently the best build to do this with?
a/e fire nuking is probably the fastest in NM. In HM, i'm not sure... i'm missing out on the awesomeness of the a/e build because i dont have eotn =(
a/e fire nuking is probably the fastest in NM. In HM, i'm not sure... i'm missing out on the awesomeness of the a/e build because i dont have eotn =(
Jebus
What skills would you add if you had EotN?
TarjaTeOrteyn
knowing that teotuf dos have EoTN (noob) i prefer to fill FN with LoD....the extra damage helps a lot. channeling is also a good alternative for extra nrg.
as for times the a/e fire nuker is the fastest in NM...as far as i know this is the fastest in HM becuz its like the only sin build that CAN farm it in HM
(noob) i prefer to fill FN with LoD....the extra damage helps a lot. channeling is also a good alternative for extra nrg.as for times the a/e fire nuker is the fastest in NM...as far as i know this is the fastest in HM becuz its like the only sin build that CAN farm it in HM
Resident
A/E sliver works in HM as well.
Song Hye Jin
Hello,
Nice build but
Is it possible with a El/A ?
I haven't a assassin.
Thanks You.
Nice build but
Is it possible with a El/A ?
I haven't a assassin.
Thanks You.
TarjaTeOrteyn
lol i forgot a/e sliver existed :P but yeah...a/me is faster because of the way sliver dies when theres few enemies with messes up pulls in the planes