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HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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09 May 2008 at 02:42 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

To be clear, I have nothing against new ingame emote, but the way of ANet's introduction of new emote is very rude to me. It degrades my current thoughts/vision about ANet as company.

For me it is really bad PR.

Agreed. Bad PR.

Oh, and the banning for famming isn't an urban legend. One guild did get in trouble with this during the World Championships like 16 months ago.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 May 2008 at 02:44 - 42

i fail to see why people care if you get ranked after losing. Cry less please. You must be the people that call the winning team noobs.

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

09 May 2008 at 02:47 - 43

Lol I saw that too and was like wtf. Though I've never gotten in trouble for ranking people in ab. Only the people who deserve it, sooo many assholes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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09 May 2008 at 03:18 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

Lol I saw that too and was like wtf. Though I've never gotten in trouble for ranking people in ab. Only the people who deserve it, sooo many assholes

I've never gotten in trouble for ranking people in RA either. Although I normally only do it to Touch Rangers, cuz they deserve it.

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

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09 May 2008 at 03:34 - 45

Yeesh, guys. Bad PR?

WTB a sense of humor.

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

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09 May 2008 at 03:48 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

i fail to see why people care if you get ranked after losing. Cry less please. You must be the people that call the winning team noobs.

Sportsmanship is conduct and attitude considered as befitting participants in sports, especially fair play, courtesy, striving spirit, and grace in losing and winning. Poor sportsmanship is "rubbing salt in the wounds" of the losers among other things. Decent players never rank.

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

09 May 2008 at 03:54 - 47

Since when was rank spiking a banable offence?

If so, i want those Charr from EoTn that rank 9 Tiger spike me thrown out of the Dungeon!

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

09 May 2008 at 03:59 - 48

Who cares? It appeals to the average 15 year old casual PvE/PvPer. And that's the majority of Anet's market.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

09 May 2008 at 04:05 - 49

Ok, so someone ranks you after killing them. So what? Let them feel big and mighty, ignore them and move on.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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09 May 2008 at 04:13 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Quote from http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ds/default.php

Now, I remember times when someone could get reported then de-ranked and/or temp banned for making rank emote over enemy's dead body in HA because of unsportsmanlike behaviour.

How come, now ANet encourages players to do such things?

Because no one has ever been deranked or banned for it, its just pve whiners crying.

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

09 May 2008 at 04:19 - 51

I'd like to see a massive group of people stop playing for some time. That'll get ANet's attention.

Nonetheless, I stopped doing AB because it bored me with people using builds that are all the same just got more annoying than anything.

Once I get to where I've set myself up to getting toward, I'll mostly just end up roaming around until GW2 comes. Once that comes, I'll wait two more months to see how the game is.

I've been getting the same vibes as I've had for a while now from ANet:

1) Fill your Hall of Monuments. We'll supply plenty of titles and added things and you can fill it up to max so your experience in GW2 will be rewarded greatly.

2) We want you to play GW2 because our decisions on how the gameplay, skills and experience you have are derived to making you dislike GW1 so that GW2 will be your next best choice.

3) The phrase "I'm bored" can be erased with what we feel people want to do. You do the missions, you do the quests... now do something we hope you'll like that is "different" and "challenging" for the time being.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

09 May 2008 at 05:18 - 52

You give someone the ability to /rank in game and then say they can't, that doesn't make sense.

Mr Pink57

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

a van down by the river

iBench

P/W

09 May 2008 at 05:25 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by natural_Causes

If they really had a problem with it, then why would they give the Charr in EOTN a tiger emote that they only use over your dead body?

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gloat

It's actually a skill used by Charr vs them just "tea bagging" you.

pink

Lord Bleyz

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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09 May 2008 at 06:31 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

Urban legend.

I remember about 2 years ago people were always joking about how if you rank someone's corpse you lose 100 fame.

I don't know if anet ever had an official stance on ranking corpses, but they certainly don't seem very serious about it now. I mean, come on, charr in EotN rank your corpses! I found that hilarious. Anet obviously picked up on the "in-game culture" and made a joke about it. And from there it's not far to actually embracing the trend and using it to promote the new emotes.

IMO people are way too touchy about this.

I agree with everything in this the above statement.

In FPS Games like Counter Strike you could spray paint, in other games there were verbal taunts and such. I see ranking someone as much the same.

/tiger your corpse

Nightmares Hammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

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09 May 2008 at 06:51 - 55

Why do it in the first place...?

enlightened

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The League Of Friends

W/Mo

09 May 2008 at 07:00 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorondor Port

Now the rich pve's can buy their way into an emote.

oh but still no skill

Gotta love PVP snobs!

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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09 May 2008 at 07:06 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

Its silly, of all the things to be bothered by....

/flingbooger emote
/sprayfart emote
/teabag emote

it could be a lot worse.

This post was enjoyable.

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

America

09 May 2008 at 07:10 - 58

Well considering the new emote is even more meaningless than rank emote, anyone corpse humping with it is must be awful.

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

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09 May 2008 at 07:13 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by enlightened

Gotta love PVP snobs!

Gotta love clueless PvE wammos.

But seriously, if you use this emote in that way, you really won't impress anyone, apart from people who like douches.

KomaTous

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

E/Me

09 May 2008 at 07:20 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

I find it funny that a community as rude as gw's still has the nerve to complain when they are treated rudely. You can be rude to others but no one should be rude to you? being a scumbag is a trend on this game, One I have been amazed at for years. I find this very amusing.

As I'v always said, the game is filled with unsupervised children and disfunctional adults. Hence why I don't pvp and I don't party with people. H/H solo ftw!

These emotes are nothing new, just another way to express immaturity. Good sportsmanship does not exists anymore.

Yet another reason Offline gaming will always be better than online gaming.

LOL you think gw is the only game with "unsupervised children and dysfunctional adults" lol @ you my friend

before you start stamping your foot and prompting your statements forward you might want to broaden your experience to other MMO's and see what they like. You sir need to sit down and and think about what you want in a game if playing with your self is your thing then i dont think you should come onto forums and complain about online gaming unplug your cable right now after reading this and never return to any MMO forum again cause being part of the forum is also being part of the game... lol your just another "i didnt get what i paid for.. never satisfied customer" i think the people on the net are alright you choose how they effect you!! so man up a little and stop QQ all the time

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

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09 May 2008 at 07:28 - 61

i prefer just dancing on the corpse
like in AB i take a small dance on the corpse of the guy who i killed

Tosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Order of the Kitten [PURR]

09 May 2008 at 07:38 - 62

Meh, I personally think you are overreacting.

Like n1ghtstalker said, there are other things you can do over a corpse that is just as annoying, like /dance, /taunt, /jump or whatever. This is just another one, only this one is more flashy. Should someone ever flash this emote in my face, ill just ignore him. Just as I do when some team is "rankspiking" me in HA. Or shall we get rid of all emotes all together?

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

09 May 2008 at 07:49 - 63

There other problems in this game than ranking or emoting over corpses. Some do it for fun, some indeed do it to prove themselves - poor sobs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

Because HA is High end PvP and AB is one of the lowest (there's always Fort Aspenwood and that one place no one visits anymore *forgot name*)

Good laugh. HA is High-End PvP? Even TA is much more competitive.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

09 May 2008 at 07:51 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Quote from http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ds/default.php

Of all the dumb things ArenaNet added to the game, this one is... Is...

I lack words to describe such level of retardedness.

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

09 May 2008 at 07:54 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by arienrhode

Well considering the new emote is even more meaningless than rank emote, anyone corpse humping with it is must be awful.

Maybe, but if true then I also tend to think how bad the person getting corpse humped would have to be to be killed by said awful individual.

If doing that is such a bad player then it doesn't matter as you should rarely see said emote being done over your corpse. If it bothers you when someone does it to you then just think how bad you must be if said horrid player is doing that to you. Sure they are Nubs who went to PvXWiki and simply copied a build - but then how crappy are you that you can't even beat said scrub no skill build from PvXWiki?

Of course, if you are good enough then it is all irrelevant as you will very very rarely see it (nor do you care about /rank elitism as you are in a top guild). It seems to me that most of the complainers are not looking forward to bad players constantly lording it over them when the complainers loose (after all it took skill, dedication, and extreme teamwork to get beaten by no talent cookie cutter teams).

Any and all titles are mostly purchasable or grindable now - many of the top guilds are selling invites and title grinding so even *that* has been purchasable for quite some time. If you actually think anything other than winning in PvP is respected you are a fool (and even then one can see the losers rarely ever respect it, there is always a reason why loosing is more respected in their mind) - if you are getting ranked enough times to notice then you are loosing and no one else cares about any thing else.

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

R/

09 May 2008 at 08:07 - 66

what so wrong about emote anyways??

you do like it cause people spam it on you when you die?? people spam it like it something special???

if you answer yes to all then I suggest you take some time off...emote are dumb I agree but no real reason to hate them...

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

09 May 2008 at 08:19 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosha

Like n1ghtstalker said, there are other things you can do over a corpse

/sigh
There are things you can do over a corpse. And least AN could do is NOT adding pathetic emotes.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

09 May 2008 at 08:31 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackSephir

/sigh
There are things you can do over a corpse. And least AN could do is NOT adding pathetic emotes.

Not only that. The official site makes it look like that this usage was the reason behind its creation. Basically it looks like ANet is saying, you are supposed to use it like that.

Vitues

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sydney, Australia

Mo/W

09 May 2008 at 08:44 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by RavenGT

I think Anet just shot themselves in the foot.

Shot them selves several times.

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

09 May 2008 at 08:48 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Now, I remember times when someone could get reported then de-ranked and/or temp banned for making rank emote over enemy's dead body in HA because of unsportsmanlike behaviour.

How come, now ANet encourages players to do such things?

Thank god Anet lightened up, is all I can say.

It's a taunt emote, big deal? What if people did /dance over your corpse or /sit on it. Most of the games I have played, MMOs and FPS games alike have had some kind of taunt emote.

I think their current stance on ranking people was made pretty obvious by the Charr in EotN tigering dead players.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

09 May 2008 at 09:01 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR

Thank god Anet lightened up, is all I can say.

It's a taunt emote, big deal? What if people did /dance over your corpse or /sit on it.

Taunt is unsportmanship and it is bad that ANet specifically made an emote just for that. ANet can´t prevent misuse of emotes.

Quote:

I think their current stance on ranking people was made pretty obvious by the Charr in EotN tigering dead players.

The Charrs get 10 energy and 5 strikes of adrenaline, when it is used.

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

09 May 2008 at 09:06 - 72

Still find /excited on top of my dead corpse the most insulting

Would have preferred a emote linked to your amount of Balthazar faction though and not for those keys ... but i guess they don't like Max titles on introduction.

Like I said before, have fun with it ... it's a game and what would be competitive play without taunting?

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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09 May 2008 at 09:21 - 73

the only emote truly worth doing over a dead body is a bambi. nothing else.

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

09 May 2008 at 09:35 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Taunt is unsportmanship and it is bad that ANet specifically made an emote just for that. ANet can´t prevent misuse of emotes.

Augie (iQ) ranked Flyy (iB) during the GWFC at Leipzig Games Convention (possibly the biggest games convention in the world) in front of hundreds of live fans, and tens of thousands who later watched the recorded match. People loved it, the crowd went wild, and that could have been the turning point of Anets perspective on it.

Lighten up, seriously. It could possibly be considered bad sportsmanship like if you are an uptight englishman with a passion for cricket, tea and trouser presses. It's no different to pre/post-match banter and is all part of a competitive PvP game. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

The Charrs get 10 energy and 5 strikes of adrenaline, when it is used.

It's still ranking a corpse, and I fail to see how Anet giving it additional benefits changes that.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

09 May 2008 at 10:35 - 75

Can't you chaps do something else besides debate PvE and PvP?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Taunt is unsportmanship and it is bad that ANet specifically made an emote just for that. ANet can´t prevent misuse of emotes.

I assume in your world, the only permissible actions are handshakes before and after competitive play? Shall we next remove the ability for players to win since it is unkind to those that don't by implying they are losers?

Espartaco

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2007

Majestic Dragons

E/Mo

09 May 2008 at 10:57 - 76

I don't think the emote is much of an insult to the defeated opponent. I think it says something more along the lines of...

"Phew, that was a tough one. I managed to work up quite a sweat fighting you! Hmm.. I fancy a pint of Strongbow."

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

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09 May 2008 at 10:59 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by timebandit

Like I said before, have fun with it ... it's a game and what would be competitive play without taunting?

A lot more fun without the a**holes.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

09 May 2008 at 11:01 - 78

Another embarrassing moment for Anet. It's like that person who named his character 'brawling headbutt' and the character got blocked while the same name is used as a skill in the game. Contradictions pop up on a regular basis now it seems.

I don't know what's going on at Anet lately, but it may be time to streamline the team and get their act together.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

09 May 2008 at 11:16 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

..
I assume in your world, the only permissible actions are handshakes before and after competitive play?

Like in Tennis?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Shall we next remove the ability for players to win since it is unkind to those that don't by implying they are losers?

Unlike in Tennis?

Taunting/Insulting has nothing to do with competition. It is the idiots who think otherwise.

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

09 May 2008 at 11:18 - 80

if you get mad if someones /ranks you than you have a problem

maybe Anet realised that now.