99% of everyone effected by this are NOT leechers.
RA - People leave games because too many teams in RA are 2-3monk teams with no damage dealers and too many people playing do not have the IQ required to type /resign.
So you are stuck because if you leave you become Dishonorable.
AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds.
Tweak it or just simply remove it.
It's doing more harm then good.
Dishonorable - Worst Idea Ever
Kassad
aaje vhanli
Part of the point of Dishonorable is to keep people from abandoning teams for these very reasons as well.
Some players in the community enjoy PvP'ing even if the random teams aren't the most desirable outcome. Your abandoning hinders these peoples' gaming experience since they have to, then, play with a three party team.
You know it's random, so you accept the chance of a shitty outcome when you join.
As for AB, people have a right to try out builds. A lot of people are learning how to PvP. Failing is a part of the learning process. Instead of leaving, you should make respectful suggestions to help people become better PvP'ers.
Abandoning people like this is not going to help the PvP community.
Dishonorable - Best Idea Ever
post script: I also get Dishonorable when I don't feel I deserved it, but I see less people bailing so it is doing more good than harm.
Some players in the community enjoy PvP'ing even if the random teams aren't the most desirable outcome. Your abandoning hinders these peoples' gaming experience since they have to, then, play with a three party team.
You know it's random, so you accept the chance of a shitty outcome when you join.
As for AB, people have a right to try out builds. A lot of people are learning how to PvP. Failing is a part of the learning process. Instead of leaving, you should make respectful suggestions to help people become better PvP'ers.
Abandoning people like this is not going to help the PvP community.
Dishonorable - Best Idea Ever
post script: I also get Dishonorable when I don't feel I deserved it, but I see less people bailing so it is doing more good than harm.
Zenos Squad
Please provide solid information or test results of where you got the 99% from.
And Dishonorable isn't intended just for leechers.
And Dishonorable isn't intended just for leechers.
XiaoTheBlade
So you just got the hex amirite?
And you come here make a QQ thread about the dishonourable hope it will last 10 minutes so you can go play again?
And you come here make a QQ thread about the dishonourable hope it will last 10 minutes so you can go play again?
britnie31
why be upset over RANDOM arena .. You get the key word in that right .. its RANDOM some times you get 4 monk / or 4 warrior / or you get a good balance .. again KEY WORD IS RANDOM
PyrAnkh
making this topic is the Worst Idea Ever.
In ab, your team can resign.
In ra, if you have a crappy team, either convince them to resign or play that one game and leave afterwards.
In ab, your team can resign.
In ra, if you have a crappy team, either convince them to resign or play that one game and leave afterwards.
Washi
wow... just leave after the first round? fail
Dr Strangelove
If you care about what the rest of your team is using, go play TA.
tezza151
Yea honest to god dishonorable is a great thing, its punishment for those who rage quit, simple play PvP the right way and u wont be hexed with it
mazza558
I'll tell you what's worse - getting Dishonorable when you leave as soon as everyone on your team's dead, in order to save a few seconds. Even worse are the people who report me when there's one member of our team who wants to run around for 7 minutes when he has admitted he has no res and the rest of us are dead - so I leave.
Whoever reports me when I do this, WHY DO YOU DO IT?!
Whoever reports me when I do this, WHY DO YOU DO IT?!
Surena
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If you care about what the rest of your team is using, go play TA.
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Now we can close this thing.
Blackhearted
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It's doing more harm then good.
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forc
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making this topic is the Worst Idea Ever.
In ab, your team can resign. |
elsalamandra
/not signed
sorry
sorry
cgruber
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Originally Posted by Kassad
99% of everyone effected by this are NOT leechers.
RA - People leave games because too many teams in RA are 2-3monk teams with no damage dealers and too many people playing do not have the IQ required to type /resign. So you are stuck because if you leave you become Dishonorable. AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds. Tweak it or just simply remove it. It's doing more harm then good. |
Div
It was a dumb system to begin with. But why did they implement it? Because people QQ'ed about RA leavers. You pretty much have to choose between the lesser of two evils.
jiggles
I won 4 matches in RA the other day with four healer monks, we won by wanding everything to death (seriously) so not always is it a good idea to resign purely because you dont like how the team looks.
I also like the dishonourable system
so not signed
I also like the dishonourable system
so not signed
traeskapa
Well, I guess it's supposed to keep you there the few minutes it will take to finish the RA-game, or whatever you were playing. It's not working, but it's not bad either.
Mystica
I never had dishonorable for me. Actually I didn't know it exsists till a former allymate started complaining about it 2 weeks ago.
We spend hours trading.
More hours farming.
A lot of hours forming groups PvE/PvP whatever.
And probably the most time posting/chatting nonsenseon guru in local or guild/ally chat.
But when it comes to RA all of a sudden everybody is in a hurry. Can't you just wait those 5 minutes till the round is over without spoiling it for the rest of your team?
We spend hours trading.
More hours farming.
A lot of hours forming groups PvE/PvP whatever.
And probably the most time posting/chatting nonsenseon guru in local or guild/ally chat.
But when it comes to RA all of a sudden everybody is in a hurry. Can't you just wait those 5 minutes till the round is over without spoiling it for the rest of your team?
Kassad
Everyone seems to be missing the point, I leave when my team has 2-3 monks and no one on the team can do damage.
That is a waste of time.
No i'm not going to stay 8 minutes just so both teams die in a draw.
That is a waste of time.
No i'm not going to stay 8 minutes just so both teams die in a draw.
Fril Estelin
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Everyone seems to be missing the point, I leave when my team has 2-3 monks and no one on the team can do damage.
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disho...mbatant_System
It means that you quit twice in less than 5 minutes, and even then after 10 minutes you can still play. (and to give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm not considering the /report here, which can give you 2 points). If you continue to get dishonorable points during the next 60 minutes, the duration is increased, but then you deserve it.
Patience is a virtue and you have a severe lack of it. This system is perfect because it protects us from people like you, where your last refuge is a fanforum.
I met a guy in GtoB who didn't know what it was, I explained and he then adapted to this, quickly loosing his dishonorable points. Now stop QQing and play the game, or find something useful to do with your time.
BlackSephir
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Everyone seems to be missing the point, I leave when my team has 2-3 monks and no one on the team can do damage.
That is a waste of time. No i'm not going to stay 8 minutes just so both teams die in a draw. |
Kassad
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Seems like /resign is a forgotten command.
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Scary Raebbit
Start providing better evidence that the system doesn't suck shit other than 
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Unless you are getting 2-3 monks every other match, then you have no reason to complain.
Random means that the team structure is not definite. You get shit teammates or not enough damage? Somebody call the waaaaaaaambulance.
Don't want to deal with those odds? Go to TA.
+1 since this thread is begging to be locked.
.Unless you are getting 2-3 monks every other match, then you have no reason to complain.
Random means that the team structure is not definite. You get shit teammates or not enough damage? Somebody call the waaaaaaaambulance.
Don't want to deal with those odds? Go to TA.
+1 since this thread is begging to be locked.
Turbobusa
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Everyone seems to be missing the point, I leave when my team has 2-3 monks and no one on the team can do damage.
That is a waste of time. No i'm not going to stay 8 minutes just so both teams die in a draw. |
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N1ghtstalker
stupid thread
it's just a game
if you leave cuz your team lost and the timer isn't at 0 you deserve it ^.~
i once was playing in AB and everyone at my side started leaving
it was 5 vs 12 and i still played the match through even tho we were heavily outnumbered
learn to live with the hex or gtfo
it's just a game
if you leave cuz your team lost and the timer isn't at 0 you deserve it ^.~
i once was playing in AB and everyone at my side started leaving
it was 5 vs 12 and i still played the match through even tho we were heavily outnumbered
learn to live with the hex or gtfo
miskav
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I won 4 matches in RA the other day with four healer monks, we won by wanding everything to death (seriously) so not always is it a good idea to resign purely because you dont like how the team looks.
I also like the dishonourable system so not signed |
Atleast, I had 3 monk healers and a prot monk o.o
KomaTous
i see ops point but like second poster says you take the good with the bad and imo it does more good then bad, i vote Dishonorable stays 
imagine if Dishonorable was taken out.. lol there goes ever finding a random team that sticks it out to the end again
imagine if Dishonorable was taken out.. lol there goes ever finding a random team that sticks it out to the end again
cebalrai
I don't think the OP appreciates really how bad leeching/quitting was before dishonorable.
It definitely does more good than harm.
One big problem in ab though is that when there's a leech in your base, you might not be back to base to see him to /report for a very long time (or ever). Therefore, leeches seldom get many reporters and almost always get away with leeching.
It definitely does more good than harm.
One big problem in ab though is that when there's a leech in your base, you might not be back to base to see him to /report for a very long time (or ever). Therefore, leeches seldom get many reporters and almost always get away with leeching.
legion_rat
/notsigned
doesnt bother me, I dont rage quit.
~the rat~
doesnt bother me, I dont rage quit.
~the rat~
Paul thy god
i got dishonorable coz i lost connection during FREAKING XMAS SNOWBALL FIGHT......
Off Topic: Does anyone notice that people take AB WAY to seriously, i mean i got called a freaking kurz noob because i dont even have R1 kurzick, and didnt stand in a teleporter
Off Topic: Does anyone notice that people take AB WAY to seriously, i mean i got called a freaking kurz noob because i dont even have R1 kurzick, and didnt stand in a teleporter
The Meth
Now I very rarely RA, but I have never found a team that didn't know how to resign. Even the noobiest person with the most retarded builds know what resign is. Compare this to before dishonorable where half the time you joined a team someone would leave.
For AB, just use those noobs as a distraction
For AB, just use those noobs as a distraction
Daf
/notsigned
if they don't resign, just sit down and wait some time, go check guru while waiting.
And like allready been said u don't get dishonourable after 1 leave, so dishonourable works perfectly...
if they don't resign, just sit down and wait some time, go check guru while waiting.
And like allready been said u don't get dishonourable after 1 leave, so dishonourable works perfectly...
TheRaven
Dishonorable was invented just for dishonorable players like the OP.
"OMG you're a W/Mo in non-elite armor!!!!!!!!!!!! U SUK! <bye bye>"
"OMG!!!! You brought a torment shield to RA!!!! DUMB PVE ELITIST NOOB!!!! <bye bye>"
"3 MONKS???? THIS IS STUPID!!! <bye bye>"
"REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <bye bye>"
"OMG!!!!!! THAT STOOOPID RANGER HAS A HAMMER NOT A BOW. NOOB! <bye bye>"
Yeah RA is a lot better with dishonorable. If you don't like getting 2 monks on your team, then move to TA and build your perfect pwning team there.
"OMG you're a W/Mo in non-elite armor!!!!!!!!!!!! U SUK! <bye bye>"
"OMG!!!! You brought a torment shield to RA!!!! DUMB PVE ELITIST NOOB!!!! <bye bye>"
"3 MONKS???? THIS IS STUPID!!! <bye bye>"
"REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME REZ ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <bye bye>"
"OMG!!!!!! THAT STOOOPID RANGER HAS A HAMMER NOT A BOW. NOOB! <bye bye>"
Yeah RA is a lot better with dishonorable. If you don't like getting 2 monks on your team, then move to TA and build your perfect pwning team there.
Spazzer
Dishonorable is just a mechanic to remove the instant gratification from pvp, similar to the way it was removed from pve. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to leave a pvp session, especially for those players who have very limited time to play the game.
Restricting yourself to playing RA is no longer an option; you're simply restricted to not pvp anymore.
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Really? I did not know that. I simply stopped PvPing entirely when the system was introduced. It would have been nice if Arenanet had released the specifics when they created the system.
Restricting yourself to playing RA is no longer an option; you're simply restricted to not pvp anymore.
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You don't get Dishonor Hex just because of one quit. You need more than that on a certain period of time:
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Jetdoc
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RA - People leave games because too many teams in RA are 2-3monk teams with no damage dealers and too many people playing do not have the IQ required to type /resign.
AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds. |
If you want to leave a match because the team doesn't meet your expectations, then simply deal with the Dishonorable hex and move on. It's much better than going in with the expectation that your typical RA team will only have 3 members or your AB team will likely have less than 10 members, due to leavers.
Magikarp
while i find dishonorable status to be a great addition to stop the leechers/ragers/griefers, its still a pain to be caught in the situations that the OP is talking about, so i totally understand where he's coming from..
unfortunately, i dont agree that the system should be removed, because its doing way more good, than it is harm.
for instance, about once a day, i get this:
map loads (im a monk), 2 other monks, and a resto rit with no damage are my 3 team mates. "um... ok resign guys lol" i say... no one talks back. "hello? /resign please" timer starts, they run out like brainless, soulless morons. "wtf freaking resign, are you guys bots or something, say something!" i say, then i get the "stfu noob, lern how 2 monk, then you won't cry so much" before we even start fighting.
this just makes me want to either leave, or sit, or even kamikaze lol.
then theres the even more often variant:
you go in, you have almost no damage for whatever reason, and neither does the other team somehow.. like 2 monks on each team, and then both teams have crappy touch rangers or blood necros or something awful. then no one agrees to either resign, roll, leave, or give up.. so you fight the timer out.
it gets pointless and irritating, and i sympathize, but thats no reason to wish for the entire systems removal
unfortunately, i dont agree that the system should be removed, because its doing way more good, than it is harm.
for instance, about once a day, i get this:
map loads (im a monk), 2 other monks, and a resto rit with no damage are my 3 team mates. "um... ok resign guys lol" i say... no one talks back. "hello? /resign please" timer starts, they run out like brainless, soulless morons. "wtf freaking resign, are you guys bots or something, say something!" i say, then i get the "stfu noob, lern how 2 monk, then you won't cry so much" before we even start fighting.
this just makes me want to either leave, or sit, or even kamikaze lol.
then theres the even more often variant:
you go in, you have almost no damage for whatever reason, and neither does the other team somehow.. like 2 monks on each team, and then both teams have crappy touch rangers or blood necros or something awful. then no one agrees to either resign, roll, leave, or give up.. so you fight the timer out.
it gets pointless and irritating, and i sympathize, but thats no reason to wish for the entire systems removal
Phaern Majes
The real solution for the RA isn't to change the dishonorable system, its to make it so its not truly random. Such as if whatever mechanic that chooses the teams were to see that a team already had two monks, then have it so it excludes any more.
But whatever I don't leave groups so it doesn't effect me.
But whatever I don't leave groups so it doesn't effect me.
CagedinSanity
I test out builds a lot in AB, just cuz. So do a lot of my friends.
So what?
So what?
C2K
The worst idea of the system is the /report command, because its like being guilty till proven innocent. Dishonorable is annoying but its easy to get around, just resign. And if that doesn't work run to the other team and frenzy/healsig alot, your team will get the message.