Dishonorable - Worst Idea Ever

Rhaenys

Rhaenys

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Camarillo, CA

Sentinels of the Imperium [LaZy]

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I see plenty of people ragequitting RA teams as it is right now. I can only imagine what it was like before the system was implemented. The system works, so go cry until your ten minutes are up.

/notsigned

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Is this the thread where I complain about the mechanism to prevent whiny ragequitting because I'm a whiny ragequitter who got hexed by that very mechanism?

Don't ragequit and there won't be a problem. If you're so 1337 that you can't tolerate playing with all the nubs and build testers who are trying something new, STFU and get back to maintaining your GvG and HA status.

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especially for those players who have very limited time to play the game.
Your inability to play the game as it was designed is your problem, not your team's. If you don't have time to do an RA match, don't go into RA and you won't get hexed. Problem solved.

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The worst idea of the system is the /report command, because its like being guilty till proven innocent.
Except that unless your fellows agree with your assessment and also /report, you also get dinged for an unsupported /report. Kind of makes just reporting innocents pointless since you'll quickly get yourself hexed as well.

Avai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Funny, I didn't even know this existed in Guild Wars. Maybe it's because I never leech or abandon my teams.

You should try doing as I do. It makes for quite an enjoyable gaming experience. ^_^

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

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AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds.

Tweak it or just simply remove it.

It's doing more harm then good.
Funny I didn't see anything in the EULA or RULES of the game that said others had to play everything just like you do or expect or even make builds like you do or expect. Seems to me if YOU don't like it YOU should be the one leaving as you're doing more harm than good. Really get tired of these holier than thou's coming to forums thinking their opinion should be top priority for Anet lmao or Anet should obey them as if they were the Generals of War. haha

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

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Dishonorable has been implemented for awhile now.. why QQ now.?

Nude Nira

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

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Dhex would be good, but too bad it doesn't work half the time...

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

its not permanent
walk it off son

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nude Nira
Dhex would be good, but too bad it doesn't work half the time...
It works you're just given a certain amount of points to spend before it trips. You have to leave multiple sessions within a period of time before you're hexed with it.

The Toe Tag

The Toe Tag

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Covenant Of Immortals[COI]

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Kassad,your one of the reason they added and THANK GOD they did
Ra and AB sucked without it.
Ppl would leave a RA team if they didnt have a monk war and ele on there team.It F***in' sucked.
and AB ppl would just stand around with there thumbs up there @$$'s at spawn just waiting for match to end or like you said wanting to leave cuz they was losing.

So get over it you cant rage quit on your team anymore.

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

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They should up the dishonored points given by leaving to 10.
You leave, you can't play for 10 minutes.
The matches last like 3 to 5 effing minutes, I'm sure you can wait this long.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

the thing they need to do about ra is just add rez shrines to all of the maps that way it would eliminate people who are too stupid to bring a rez sig and runners.

my question is where is my dishonorable title?!?!

toastgodsupreme

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
99% of everyone effected by this are NOT leechers.
57% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
RA - People leave games because too many teams in RA are 2-3monk teams with no damage dealers and too many people playing do not have the IQ required to type /resign.
So you lose and you return back to the RA isle or you win and you leave before the next match begins.

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Originally Posted by Kassad
AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds.
I almost never see quiters when AB'ing.


If you want high quality pvp, do GvG or HA or TA. Don't come to RA and AB and expect pros.

whitedragon

whitedragon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Golden Dragons of Tyria (G0ID)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
99% of everyone effected by this are NOT leechers.

RA - People leave games because too many teams in RA are 2-3monk teams with no damage dealers and too many people playing do not have the IQ required to type /resign.

So you are stuck because if you leave you become Dishonorable.

AB - Simply, half the teams usually consist of idiots who try to 1v1 people or people with terrible builds.

Tweak it or just simply remove it.

It's doing more harm then good.
Hmmm was it not made for people like you who like to rage quite when they dont like the team they get, making it hard for everyone. I seem to remember

lot of people mad about those rage Q. and leechers ..so anet made this so we can know who YOU are.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

I disagree. Best Idead ever. It used to be HORRIBLE. Everyone ran spike builds with no healing (shadow prison sin was BEAST) they would enter until they got a monk. It was so dumb to have people just leave with no penalty. It just needs to be changed so you dont get dishonorable for leaving roller beetle races or /resign'ing out.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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The title makes me lol. The system is fine. The only issues I've experienced is with resigning in RBR. Everything else functions as it should.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
The title makes me lol. The system is fine. The only issues I've experienced is with resigning in RBR. Everything else functions as it should.
exactly. it really helps eliminate leeching.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

/requestlock

99% like the system

there is a 50% chance that i am lying about all my statements

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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I agree with dishonorable. It's the only way to keep people from leaving random arena/snowball/dragon arena when they either don't get the team setup they want, or were trying to sync enter with their friends and didn't get it. Occasionally people who don't deserve it get it, but overall it keeps people from ruining the game completely for other people. And as for leaving so you can save time when everyone else on your team is dead... ugh. Seems like if they all died and you're just running around deciding to leave, maybe you should have been helping more?

brad-

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

None - Lone Wolf

Mo/W

Signed.

I've monked my way nearly to g4 (next week or so) and could not agree more. I cannot stand having retards on my team that do no damage at all, cant target correctly to save their lives, have 375 max health, no res sig....or skills from 4 lines. Dont even get me started on the no-loaders and afk'ers. If the timer hits zero plus a little and someone hasnt loaded...i immediately resign and leroy. I could probably start a whole thread on how the last man runner deciding to waste 4 minutes of everyone's time could be fixed.

I refuse to hold idiots like that up for 4 minutes...either win or lose because I'm not going to get a glad point with anyone like that. Typically I have to either leroy the other team, or leave right after a victory because of the dishonorable system. It just makes me spend extra time with teams that have no business being a team.

Dishonorable had good intentions...to stop people like me from leaving nub groups right when we load...but if you're going to do that, you've got to de-randomize it a little to make the matches more even...or enjoyable. Maybe, throw in some logic to not have 3 healers on a team...or not have 3 players with no pvp points in any track on the same team. Make a res skill a requirement to hit "enter battle" in RA.

Maybe i'm just a bitter old monk, but RA definitely needs work done. I wont even start griping about not having an emote while letting nubs BUY one.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

^^ What part of "random" is so hard to understand? Maybe if you stuck around more "back in tha day", Grandpa, you could have helped some of the "nubs" get better. If you are so bad ass, why are you scrubbing around in RA, if you hate it that much?

RA is fine. Go look up random in the dictionary. I'm sorry some people lose 3-10 minutes of their lives in a bad match. It's a lot better than elitist marble gobblers leaving when the team didn't fit their mold. They have GvG, TA and HA for you, if you can hack it.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
Dishonorable is just a mechanic to remove the instant gratification from pvp, similar to the way it was removed from pve. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to leave a pvp session, especially for those players who have very limited time to play the game.
Really? If you do not have 10 minutes to spend in a RA game, then maybe you should not be entering RA in the first place?

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Originally Posted by Spazzer
Really? I did not know that. I simply stopped PvPing entirely when the system was introduced. It would have been nice if Arenanet had released the specifics when they created the system.
Rather than you finding out yourself what the system was, you made an assumption and acted upon it. Maybe instead of pointing the finger at others, to spoon feed you, you should not just jump to a conclusion before you know the facts.

/not signed - I am so pleased that people who feel they have a right to spoil others enjoyment get this - I just wish it was more severe.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Dishonor is pretty lame, but is a necessary evil. While leaving for legit reasons (such as a warrior with meteor shower or a monk with mending and heal other) is now impossible, mass leaving to get the perfect team is also impossible. It made Random Arenas random again, and has nearly eliminated leavers. Thank god...

If you don't like it, learn to sync... seriously, all the good players sync.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spazzer
Really? I did not know that. I simply stopped PvPing entirely when the system was introduced. It would have been nice if Arenanet had released the specifics when they created the system.
You mean like...the update notes....and.....the topic they made on every elite fansite.....?

You Look Grim

You Look Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]

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Originally Posted by britnie31
why be upset over RANDOM arena .. You get the key word in that right .. its RANDOM some times you get 4 monk / or 4 warrior / or you get a good balance .. again KEY WORD IS RANDOM
his main point was that people don't know how to resign and when they should resign...to save time ofc. who wants a 3 monk team in RA?

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Look Grim
his main point was that people don't know how to resign and when they should resign...to save time ofc. who wants a 3 monk team in RA?
Well it depends on what you're up against I guess, and if those monks and the other person are any good. Throw in a fire ele with those 3 monks, and if they're all skilled it'd be like fighting a brick wall with a flame thrower mounted on it.

I think the DH system was a great idea, it doesn't work right all of the time but nothing is flawless. I figure most of the people that whine about it are the little turds that QQ and leave when their's no monk on their team... Or there's four monks... Oh noes random arena is being random!!!11

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

hahahahaha

Sorry just too funny. Personally, I feel that Dishonorable is doing exactly what it was designed to do. The fact that you're here bitching about it tells me that you must have just encountered it, and not for the first time from the sounds of things. Meaning you either leave a lot or leech a lot, thus I have to pity for you. Cry elsewhere.

Whisper Evenstar

Whisper Evenstar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

NYC

Governors Of Destruction [GOD]

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um, thats the nature of RA and AB... either play, or be dishonored and leave.... i think it works great

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenos Squad
Please provide solid information or test results of where you got the 99% from.

And Dishonorable isn't intended just for leechers.
Apparently it's also intended for people in their first festival so that they get /reported whilst still downloading the rollerbeetle textures...

I really wanted to try that, too.

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Targren
Apparently it's also intended for people in their first festival so that they get /reported whilst still downloading the rollerbeetle textures...

I really wanted to try that, too.
Give me a break. Who /reports someone for not loading into a rollerbeetle race? There are no teams, it's every man for themselves. Hell, most people would be happy if you didn't load.

Dishonorable was a good idea. I'm not sure if anyone remembers how RA was before the system was implemented, but it was a complete mess. Every team would have a member leave in an attempt to find that perfect team to farm their glad points from.

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

zzz, JUST REMOVE GLAD POINTS FROM RA.

It solves everything.

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

/agree, but you won't get much sympathy from the riverside forum.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
I cannot stand having retards on my team that do no damage at all, cant target correctly to save their lives, have 375 max health, no res sig....or skills from 4 lines.
Like I posted to the other guy: since you're so god**** 1337 that you just get the vapors whenever a nub trying to learn or a build tester shows up, GTFO of RA and get back to maintaining your awesome /rank and GvG status.

Oh... right.... if you had either of those things to do you wouldn't be whining in RA...

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such as a warrior with meteor shower or a monk with mending and heal other
Same goes for you.

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seriously, all the feeble crybabies who can't stand a fair fight because they aren't good enough to win in TA or HA sync
FTFY

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/agree, but you won't get much sympathy from anybody who's not a giant blubbery crybaby
And I fixed that one for you! I'm good at this!

Argentino

Argentino

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Gmt+1

N/

Dishonorable is one of the best innovations implemented by Anet!

As i only play ab, not other types of pvp, i only speak for that part.
There is no excuse for leaving an Alliance Battle. The team counts on each member to do its duty. Anet should make Dishonorable more powerful. If some1 leaves the fight they should get a pvp ban for 1 day, not just 5 minutes...

I know lots of u won't agree, but if u go into ab and u have a leaver each time ... u will agree...

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
If you care about what the rest of your team is using, go play TA.
yeah, who the hell wants their team to be decent??

seriously who thinks like this.

RyXXed

RyXXed

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by yum
zzz, JUST REMOVE GLAD POINTS FROM RA.

It solves everything.
QFT. Possibly reduce the Balth faction gain or something...

yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by shru
If you want a decent team, go play god damn RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing TA you stupid twit.
It's called RANDOM Arenas for a reason.
To put it rudely, they don't want to play. They want the damm GLAD POINTS, but too sucky to play in TA.

Just remove glad points from RA. Factions is gud enuf.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by shru
If you want a decent team, go play god damn RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing TA you stupid twit.
It's called RANDOM Arenas for a reason.
A more amusing reading of the comment is that he's implying that he sucks at PvP and his very presence on a TA team would make it a de facto "not decent" team.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

If you play TA, Peddler, why are you crying so much about RA?

Face it, as was mentioned before, there are two reasons people bitch about dishonorable in RA: they can't wait the 3-10 MINUTES to get another team, or they farm glad in RA and want it to be as easy as possible for them. These are the same people who, in PvE, love the idea of a win button like Ursan.

Once again, if you don't play RA, you don't have a reason to bitch about RA. So throw that retarded "QQ QQ QQ QQ about RA....Oh, I play TA, silly" stuff out the window.

I see a 4:1 ratio for Dishonorable. At least. That isn't give-and-take discourse. How about a lock on this puppy?

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
yeah, who the hell wants their team to be decent??
People who play TA. I thought that was clear.

Aba

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

worst idea??
the worst idea thread.....
sorry could not resist...


Actually, any skills tied with titles would fit the bill