A/E Master Sliver of Swiftness - HM Farming!

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Using a grail would not be cost effective, would it?

Mr.Kotte

Mr.Kotte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Using a grail would not be cost effective, would it? Clearing lots of uw usually makes up for 5, when using 1.

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

Ok,

Tryed Urgoz. We got a fair way through but took ages and isnt really worthwhile.

IDS is easy, as it always has been, got mine on 2nd kill of 1st run then gave up cos I only wanted to test the build

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Perma_Sliver_Form , this was posted yesterday earlier, for more info.

Quote:
Tryed Urgoz. We got a fair way through but took ages and isnt really worthwhile. Ye, most solo-farming isn't worth the (at least my) time (or even bringing it in a group ). If Anet really wanted to please solo!-farmers they should have removed loot scaling imo, but they're probably still afraid of bots, even after those updates in EULA etc.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koning
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Perma_Sliver_Form , this was posted yesterday earlier, for more info.



Ye, most solo-farming isn't worth the (at least my) time (or even bringing it in a group ). If Anet really wanted to please solo!-farmers they should have removed loot scaling imo, but they're probably still afraid of bots, even after those updates in EULA etc. Yup, seems someone else posted similar build on pvx, actually a few people tried to post them there, but of course they delete similar builds. I actually figured it out on my own though within the first 10 minutes of update, but maybe there were a few that knew about the update on SF before it happened. There were already Sliver builds using Air of Superiority, but none actually use Glyph of Swiftness until yesterday. Definately fun to try something a bit different... I been farmin alot of places already. Can only wonder what is next to change, full 10 sec spirit bond without hit limit? that would be nice.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Using a grail would not be cost effective, would it?
Grails only cost 250 gold, 50 dust, and 50 iron. you clear just chamber and smites, you can make the cash back easily, salvage your demonic remains and phantom residues and you'll have your dust back and you're almost sure to get a few salvageable swords/axes/hammers... not to mention the extra ectos you could get if you can now kill all aatxes in the labyrinth, smites in ice wastes, dream riders and mindblades in the chaos plains, threshers and collectors in the bone pits, and careful planning or [ward of sta] can let you do all terrorwebs and blacknesses in the pools. you'd probably need 2 or even 3 grails for this until you get familiar with it, but still very cost effective.

Patsrule711

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Massachusttes

None right now

W/

Must make a sin...

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

I use [Elemental lord] instead of [Glyph of elemental power] that was you can have [glyph of swiftness] effect [Sliver armor] also, faster recharge on SA is always good

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by traeskapa
Sin is now ubar farmar 2k. QFT. This thread is awesome and ReZDoGG did it once again, he always seems to come with these out of world ideas which always, miracly... Seem to work! ReZDoGG, thanks for all the work

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

What's there to come out? I think people like 5 hours after buffs were announced noticed the Glyph of Swiftness + DP + Shadow Form megalolwtfsynergy. Although most of them hoped E/A can maintain it too, but it turned out that at 12 shadow arts it's only 25 seconds. Enough for Mesmers and Assassin's to maintain, not enough for Elementalists.

ReZDoGG

ReZDoGG

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Indian Township, ME

Nativ War Party (NWP)

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. G
I use [Elemental lord] instead of [Glyph of elemental power] that was you can have [glyph of swiftness] effect [Sliver armor] also, faster recharge on SA is always good You can still use Glyph of Swiftness for Sliver Armor while SF still has long recharge, just make sure Glyph is recharged by time you renew SF. Its good to keep Glyph of Lesser energy, it can keep you energy flowing nicely even if you get below 10 energy at times... can still manage to get your energy full from regen. Cast Glyph of Swiftness about 8-10 seconds before you use Shadowform... after Shadowform use Glyph of Lesser Energy, then Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, then Glyph of Swiftness again, then hit Sliver, then Air of Superiority. Just don't do it all the time, as it can use up 5 more energy... plus you sometimes get recharge on Sliver anyways from Air of Superiority. 10 second recharge on Glyph of Swiftness gives you plenty of time to use it for Sliver while SF is recharging...

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

personally, I mainly use Sliver Form for Elite Tome farming and for that E/A with 18 Earth and 12 Shadow is more then enough to farm any boss. I suppose perma SF is better for farming mobs like raptors and the like, but if you just want to take out a boss E/A is still fine, in fact it might be a little bit better.

One thing I didn't know which I have to thanks this thread for, is the Vanguard Battle Standard. That works much better then Intensity...shame my ele hasn't gotten beyond the Eye though and farming's Vanguard Rep is a pain.

Mr Emu

Mr Emu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/A

E/A=18 Earth, More energy (slightly), permaform with grail=even better than A/E

Jhadur

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

Tried this on chaos plains and it worked a treat just took ages to clear the plains. Is there a quicker set of damage dealing skills that can be used for clearing the plains?
Thanks

Jhad

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

Heres what I use for chaos plains HM and FoW beach cave HM

Attributes:
11+3 Dagger
11+3+1 Shadow arts
8+3 crit strikes
3+3 deadly arts

Weapon needed:
Zealous
+5 energy
+20% encahnts
daggers

Glyph of swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Critical agility
Golden Fox Strike (or any 5 energy 4 second recharge lead attack)
Wild Strike (or any 5 energy 4 second recharge offhand attack)
Death Blossom (main damage dealer)
Dash (use it to run over traps and not get hit)

cleared HM plains in 50mins (can be faster)
cleared HM beach+cave in 30mins (can be faster)

kicks66

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

London

[Cape]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
Heres what I use for chaos plains HM and FoW beach cave HM

Attributes:
11+3 Dagger
11+3+1 Shadow arts
8+3 crit strikes
3+3 deadly arts

Weapon needed:
Zealous
+5 energy
+20% encahnts
daggers

Glyph of swiftness
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form
Critical agility
Golden Fox Strike (or any 5 energy 4 second recharge lead attack)
Wild Strike (or any 5 energy 4 second recharge offhand attack)
Death Blossom (main damage dealer)
Dash (use it to run over traps and not get hit)

cleared HM plains in 50mins (can be faster)
cleared HM beach+cave in 30mins (can be faster) Is that HM? If so how do you deal with aatxes+block/bleed?

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

you dont you run past them

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Emu
E/A=18 Earth, More energy (slightly), permaform with grail=even better than A/E Farming's purpose is income. If you're using consumables then your income is 'slightly' decreased.

traeskapa

traeskapa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

The rune trader in kamadan don't got superior shadow arts.
Weird.
Is this just for me?

Edit: I can't spell for shit.

Koricen

Koricen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

[LoA]

Rune/Dye/Material traders can run out of their goods if too many people buy them.

Best idea is to just close the window and open it again until they have another, and hope you're the first person to click to buy it.

traeskapa

traeskapa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koricen
Rune/Dye/Material traders can run out of their goods if too many people buy them.

Best idea is to just close the window and open it again until they have another, and hope you're the first person to click to buy it. Oh, I see.
Guess the price on them will rise like Batmans c*ck, when he sees Robin.
Should've stacked up on 'em.

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

N/

ReDoGG might want to add Signets as a Counter because SF cant block Signets.

Ambuu

Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Just curious, for those who farm raptors:

Have you gotten any lockpicks with this build?

traeskapa

traeskapa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambuu
Just curious, for those who farm raptors:

Have you gotten any lockpicks with this build? Not at the raptor cave, but I've gotten picks here and there

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Just cleared Chaos Planes, the Chamber, the Vale's Graspings and a bunch of terrorwebs from the UW. 1 hour 30, but I could get it to an hour ^^ Fun fun. Yay for de-nerfs!

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Cleared Chaos Planes 3-4 times, went a bit in Spawning Pools, almost cleared Bone Pits... but Bone Pits takes a LOT of patience as not to aggro too many Dead Collectors. Collectors are MMs and when they die, their minions become masterless. The Threshers attack them with Suffering/FoC which also gets to you if you don't run away fast enough. It CAN be done, I gave up 3 or 4 mobs before clearing this part - not enough ectos compared to Chaos Planes.

This unnerf actually sparked up interest in heavy farming again... made some decent cash today =].

Mickey

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abonai Laguna
QFT. This thread is awesome and ReZDoGG did it once again, he always seems to come with these out of world ideas which always, miracly... Seem to work! ReZDoGG, thanks for all the work It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put Glyph of Swiftness + Deadly Paradox + The newly unnerfed Shadow Form together. But seriously on topic, I just tanked the whole Deep in NM, and the only problem was the Freezing Nightmares, my guild group had a fun time when I died after they expunged me. Beyond that, a Perma-SF sin was extremely useful for pulling mobs, seperating Kanaxai from his mob, and even completely tanking tens of twenties of enemies, except in the enchantment room.

Also, I found a build to do the Chaos Planes in 27 minutes flat. Here it is:

[skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill][skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill][skill]Shadow Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Phoenix[/skill][skill]Inferno[/skill][skill]Flame Djinn's Haste[/skill]

Pretty simple really, don't spam your AoE attacks, make sure you have enough energy. It's alot faster than Sliver spam, and I haven't tried it out in HM yet, but it will probably take a bit longer, but work.

Timotheos

Timotheos

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Slovenia

Mo/

Nice build Rezzdog, i'm gonna try this.
btw, the musics in your videos are so annoying I can't watch them ><

edit: btw, this is possible without Air of superiority and battle standard thing? ;o

Elite Bushido

Elite Bushido

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

NY

RaiN

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
Pretty simple really, don't spam your AoE attacks, make sure you have enough energy. It's alot faster than Sliver spam, and I haven't tried it out in HM yet, but it will probably take a bit longer, but work.
Sliver Armor has better drops

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timotheos
Nice build Rezzdog, i'm gonna try this.
btw, the musics in your videos are so annoying I can't watch them >< so mute it???

Mickey

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Bushido
Sliver Armor has better drops


so mute it??? But it takes around 10-15 minutes longer. That's more time I could spend farming more ectos using a faster build for farming things that loot scaling doesn't apply to. No thanks.

Elite Bushido

Elite Bushido

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

NY

RaiN

Rt/

......woah you must be doin somethin wrong.....

Resident

Resident

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Hungary

Pirates Love Triviality [HARR]

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Emu
E/A=18 Earth, More energy (slightly), permaform with grail=even better than A/E Try A/E with essence then. The point is: The build should work without consumables. It was pretty much doable with consumables before the update.

kicks66

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

London

[Cape]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi
you dont you run past them How do you clear the chamber then? You wont be able to pull the graspings seperately from the aatxes in HM surely?

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

ya been farming vermins for a while, so many celestial stuff

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

how many ectos per run do u guys get?

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

I was having some major issues with the sliver build while trying to clear the chamber in UW. I'd use [Grasping Earth] followed by [sliver armor] and manage to get them down to about 3/4ths health when they start to run away. Sometimes they don't get far away fast enough but most of the time, they do. Maybe it's because I haven't bothered to get [Ebon Battle Standard of Honor] on my assassin alt.? ...Dang it, now I'm going to have to grind my way through GW:EN again. What rank do you recommend in Vanguard for this build?

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

couldnt you use intensity then glyph of elemental power than sliver armor to subsitute

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeds
couldnt you use intensity then glyph of elemental power than sliver armor to subsitute Glyphs do not stack like how weapon spells don't. Casting a second glyph replaces the older glyph and I need GoLE to maintain energy.

English Warrior

English Warrior

LEET HAXXOR!

Join Date: Feb 2007

Random Arena

N/A

what could replace battle standard

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeds
what could replace battle standard The Sunspear skill "Intensity" - works with a SS rank of like...5+