SF Update will destroy GW economy

Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
some of my friends farmed about 50e in 10 hours
10 hours of farming Yikes.............. your friends should go outside and see what the Sun looks like, what a real Woman looks like not the one on there Monitor, i was wondering when the QQ thread would start for SF, OMG Sin will destroy the Economy blah, blah, blah, blah, the Economy has been garbage for years, how can a SF farmer destroy something that is complete trash? sheeeesh wake up kid GW economy is garbage.

Age

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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There is no economy in any game or there would be banking and if the prices fall then so will the interest rates.I sure can't borrow money in this game or invest it.There is really no economy it is a make beleive one and this skill well.I can say a few things about but won't

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Absurdly overpowered skills like Ursan, Ether Renewal or Shadow Form should just be nerfed (balanced). Their presence only hurts the game as a whole turning it degenerate.

EDIT: and to people saying there's no economy in GW -- Wrong! Ofcourse there IS an economy and ofcourse it's uncomparably simplier than any real world economies, even much simplier than in most other mmos, but you can't deny it's existance and importance in GW.

shoyon456

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Ummmm, how about no>?

I plan on getting my 4th (and maybe 5th) set of FoW when finals end on Friday. With SF buffed like it is, it will just be that much easier ^^

Airstu

Airstu

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Join Date: Jun 2007

BC, eh

Liars Cheats and thieves [liar]

the price of ecto has remained constant since the crash following the duping era errrrrr an undocumented update fixing a minor exploit, even with a bazillion minutes of favor allowing for nonstop farming. Waves of W/Rt's have been replaced by A/E - switching one never fail build for another. Prices are dropping on everything that isn't limited in supply (rare minis etc) - welcome to a game thats 3 years old.

on the bright side, if this keeps up, raptors may be moved off of the endangered species list until the Dragon Festival.

davicams

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so like someone said above which build is being used to do this farm?

Mister_Smiley

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sigh

I've herd this one before...

SimonTheMaster

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Ectos price is at 4,8K at trader now... I've seen so many people trying to liquidate their ectos it's not even funny... I managed to sell mine for 21e/100K which is what I had paid for these a few weeks ago...

Alex the Great

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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indeed. The economy is now dead because it has become easyier to get rich. Bull shit. Throughout history people have always tried to repress the new rich. And 50ectos in 10 hours is up from thepesvious average, but not by a ton.

Narcissia

Narcissia

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonTheMaster
Ectos price is at 4,8K at trader now... I've seen so many people trying to liquidate their ectos it's not even funny... I managed to sell mine for 21e/100K which is what I had paid for these a few weeks ago...
it was dropping to 4.8k occasionally before the update as well. give it a few hours. itll be back up to 5 or 5.5k

Neo Nugget

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Me and some guildies were talking about this while we were farming.

Sure, it has dropped a tiny bit, but i honestly don't think they will go lower than 4k, maybe not even 4.5k.....People usually buy their ectos from people, not traders, so the trader's price never really changes.

I think it's fine now, plus it actually gives me something to do that i haven't done before.

Nittle Grasper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

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There's two things that can happen (plz note I didn't read any post, only like the blodded part of the OP's part) 1) ecto market is gonna crash 2) Peps gonna see ectos for low price then their gonna buy and increase. And I'm betting if we wait another 3 days shards prices will be 2k again. And if this is right then basically Ecto+Shards is gonna constantly going high and low. My bet is on #2.

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If you wanna raise the price of ectos and shards, buy them in mass from the trader.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Me and some guildies were talking about this while we were farming.

Sure, it has dropped a tiny bit, but i honestly don't think they will go lower than 4k, maybe not even 4.5k.....People usually buy their ectos from people, not traders, so the trader's price never really changes.

I think it's fine now, plus it actually gives me something to do that i haven't done before.
i don't know. i think it has potential to plummet, but don't think it will. the only reason people farm ectos is for prestige armor/armor pieces or a trading commodity.

most people won't sell ectos to the trader just because there's always someone willing to buy them for a little more than the trader will give. with the SF buff, though, people can get them easier and faster than ever so they may start heading to the trader for the simple convenience of it.

hell what you should stock up on is superior shadow arts runes. try finding one of those right now.

SimonTheMaster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcissia
it was dropping to 4.8k occasionally before the update as well. give it a few hours. itll be back up to 5 or 5.5k
I agree, it is back to 5,5K now... Ohh well I just have to buy some ectos for the same price now

Narcissia

Narcissia

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Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SimonTheMaster
I agree, it is back to 5,5K now... Ohh well I just have to buy some ectos for the same price now
lol i told u so hehe <3

Riceboi

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
People usually buy their ectos from people, not traders, so the trader's price never really changes.
Good point here folks!

ShadowsRequiem

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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I don't get it..... Hundreds of W/Rt have been farming ectos for how long now? Well over a year+..... We've also had 30k minutes of favor who other people said "ZOMG WE HAVE FAVOR ALL THE TIME ECTOS ARE GONNA BE WORTH NOTHING!"

It's pretty funny actually.

Abe Grey

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I will bet my account on the price of ectos going up a little after the 48 gazzilion minutes of favor are over. We started at what 40k minutes and now are down to 7k. Wait it out and the price will go up again. Maybe not to the 13k that they used to cost but, they will go up in value a little.

Yawgmoth

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2 words: Protective Bond.

was imba for PvE UW farming and thankfully got nerfed, despite cries of people who 'ejnoyed' it and made huge money out of it. Thankfully.

This is the same sh*t all over again, but even more overpowered! Permanent god mode skill is totally wrong and deserves immediate nerf.

Narcissia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
2 words: Protective Bond.

was imba for PvE UW farming and thankfully got nerfed, despite cries of people who 'ejnoyed' it and made huge money out of it. Thankfully.

This is the same sh*t all over again, but even more overpowered! Permanent god mode skill is totally wrong and deserves immediate nerf.
perma shadowform was possible before the update. why r u complaining now? bcuz more ppl know about it? or cuz u dont have a sin or cant do the run? or?

Nessar

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Anet will nerf this somehow and eventually, so why not take advantage of it now?

I doubt ecto will go under 4.5k, at the least.

Paul thy god

Paul thy god

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Join Date: Jul 2007

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.

P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE."


Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check.

If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO.

/endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?)
THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH FOR CLEARING THIS UP.

although it was a little extreme its true, fair enough this makes ecto farming so much easier, but seriously, since when was ecto farming hard? also you will still get hit by traps on the way to the chaos plains, and you cannot clear the underworld with it because charged Blacknesses will WTFPWN you, and frankly the underworld is boring....i mean its so dull and boring clicking the same skills over and over, not taking any damage and killing things.

Ectos may experience a slight drop in price, 100g or so, but there are still the same amount of people raping those cows, beetles, and ghost horsemen for they're pinky goodness, that it problems wont do anything.

I wash my hands of this business and shall return to getting my necromancer elite luxon by farming ectos on my assassin....

thats code for go study for a Calculus Exam

Shadowfox1125

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The average player has already been able to get gold easily with the introduction of Zaishen Keys, so what now, nerf Z Keys somehow? Puh-lease.

Ectos have always been easy to farm, it's just that some people are more motivated to farm them than others, because, to be honest, it's mind-numbingly boring.

Dr Strangelove

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My appetite update is about to destroy the Dorito economy.

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Done.

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Destruction of economy =>

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Lest121

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nessar
Anet will nerf this somehow and eventually, so why not take advantage of it now?

I doubt ecto will go under 4.5k, at the least.
Nerf it? why? Anet knew the Possibilities of making SF last longer, if Anet Nerfs SF then they are Idiots.

Holly Herro

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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A-net will not re-nerf SF.

They will look like complete idiots if they do.

Think about it.

RhanoctJocosa

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine
...so?
Why is that bad?
cuz den shiny stuff dun mean anything anymore silly

Aera

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Told you; even with seperate PvP/PvE skills, there will still be a huge load of whining.

And tbh, items losing value? They never had with eBay around etc.

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

*Snipped the Mesmer bit* I have noticed tons of more Assassin farmers, but I don't think it will have that much impact..

We shall see. I still think Ursan was the worst thing to happen to PvE, and it is pretty difficult; even for this, or protective bond to top that.

N1ghtstalker

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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it looks kinda overpowered now
the farm is just too easy and very profitable
i'm scared that the ecto will end up as the onyx gemstone
for those who do not know about the onyx gemstone
when eotn came out i think the onyx was about 5k, now it's just merely 1k

if the permasin doesn't get nerfed, i hope the droprates will

volsung

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly Herro
A-net will not re-nerf SF.

They will look like complete idiots if they do.
lets look and see what idiots they ALREADY do look like?

1.they made ursan so over powered for last 3-4 months all i needed for this game was 1 character type [monk] = ursan & hb & sb & watever, so do i need to BUY anymore character slots NO! (hope your share holders are reading this anet), & now Just done it again judging on most comments on this thread, i honestly dont understand makers of this game anymore & as this would seem to be a PRIME example of there comapany stratagy, in all honest i dont think i will buy another anet game again!.

ragnagard

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This thread is almost fail for me. It's just like someone who has a car and wants anyone to have it too.

Warrior/ritualist is even easier than A/E SF one (sure, tried both) and no one cried for ecto prices... there is a toucher build for ranger.. lets QQ about ecto prices with that build too...! ¬¬

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
when eotn came out i think the onyx was about 5k, now it's just merely 1k
To be exactly, they were at a 9k value (trading) and 11k at merchant (who doesnt show them at list, but sometimes) at the weekend event and first days. Love gwen that days.. not now :P

Darkobra

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
why would you think high end minis would be attainable in a few weeks? even farming 50 a day would take you over 3 months at that rate to equal the last offer I had for my kanaxai (5000 ectos). With the now easily farmed ectos, if anything the # of ectos needed for a sale on high end minis will rise even farther
Exactly. If there's more money to be made, people will try to make more money by highering prices.

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Prices of ectos will never drop, a solo SF sin could ALWAYS solo uw to get ectos just as easily as now.

So long as people dont sell them to rare material trader, (and what tard does that) the price wont drop.

Everyone said UB would ruin doa prices, sure they dropped from 100+30 to 100+5-10 but thats still fairly expensive

Kurenai Fire Sensei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
Guy i hadn t saied that before SF upDade farming whit SF assasin was impossible! So take a better look or learn to read! zomfg

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
sry for my bad english but it isn t my native lauguage.
Ps: sry again for my bad english i hope all have understood what i want to say
SRY IF MY BAD ENGLISH HURTS U!


I have only saied that now farming ectos with SF is too easy and too fast!
BTW w/rt drops are half or less then half of a SF assa in the same time.

BTW the ele/mesm-ele/monk build for soloing plains/pits/pools was nerfed (glyp of conc and flame dyjin haste nerfed) and it takes approximately 15 mins more than the SF assa run(doing only pits+chaos).


Quote:
Originally Posted by underverse_ninja
10 hours of farming Yikes.............. your friends should go outside and see what the Sun looks like, what a real Woman looks like not the one on there Monitor
plz /age on your account and take a look
in those hours u could "go outside and see what the Sun looks like, what a real Woman looks like not the one on your Monitor"

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
2 words: Protective Bond.

was imba for PvE UW farming and thankfully got nerfed, despite cries of people who 'ejnoyed' it and made huge money out of it. Thankfully.

This is the same sh*t all over again, but even more overpowered! Permanent god mode skill is totally wrong and deserves immediate nerf.
Protective Bond was changed in those days because a a bug could crop up in its use that would crash Anet servers. At least, that's the official statement.

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