Can you really be THAT rich?

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatar The Element
Not that hard to get rich...if for playing for 4-5 hours a day for 3-4 days i can make 1 mil..easily
umm how? Cause id love to know. Took me a few weeks to get to 1mill the first time with trading, certainly not 3 days though...

Kattar

Kattar

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Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
umm how? Cause id love to know. Took me a few weeks to get to 1mill the first time with trading, certainly not 3 days though...
Go go ebay or become a Korean.

But seriously, just check out the farming section. Super may be exaggerating a little bit, but he's not far off.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
umm how? Cause id love to know. Took me a few weeks to get to 1mill the first time with trading, certainly not 3 days though...

not so sure why everyone thinks its soooo hard to make mad money.


I have a full time job, part time school, run a website and still find time to chill with friends and play gw.

Its so easy to get started to make mad money.

go do 2 hard mode doa runs, this should take 2-2.5 hours or less per run (with 2 runs and a little gem trading you can get 10-30 gem sets very easy depending on how you trade them) last weekend I made 400k from 30 gemsets and a few extra marg gems I make this much every time I do hm quad runs with a little bit of trading 1 marg for 3 stgyn and such.

Then you take that 400k buy some ectos and start to power trade. and in no time you have more money then you know what to do with.

or if you hate power trading just do some more doa runs.

This does not take all day nor take your entire life.

It all changes on how you play the game. It all depends on your version of fun to.

I see alot of people who like to do nothing but make new chars and do missions and quests over and over this is fine but you will not make alot of money.

If money is something you seek but refuse to do what is needed to make the money then you have no right to cry about it.

If you are still wondering why people have so much money.
(if you do not want titles,armor,weapons,and any other item, GOLD STARTS TO STOCK PILE, alot of us have had the game for 2-3 years so take that into account when you wonder how people get so rich)

Doing HM doa runs playing for 4-5 hours a day for 3-4 days i can make 1 mil.


Even if you hate the doa do uw or fow (learn the 30min hm uw run) you will not make as much money but you will still get enough.

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I love how some people actualy believe these "super-rich" people actually farmed/powertraded...

It's quite easy to figure out, problem is you can't proove it. It's like fraude in real life. EVERY TIME someone gets caught, the government "brags" that they caught another "cheater". You have NO clue however how many people still are commiting fraude...

I'm pretty sure for every 10 players banned in case duping/exploiting, there was 1 player who didn't get banned, and just kept his Ecto's/Armbraces on a alt for a year orso...

It doesn't personally affect me, but I find it sad people getting banned for "botting" let's say Kurzick title, when these dupers can walk away with a far worse/game affecting offend.

WhiteWasabi

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

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The key to thousands of ectos is powertrading. Buy low sell high. The first stack of ectos is the hardest. After that you can invest in higher end items for resell.

You gotta be in the right place at the right time also. So, instead of spending hours in a dungeon farming, you spend hours and hours in kamadan dis1 buying and selling. Just like PVP and PVE, Powertrading is another part of Guild Wars. Maybe there should be a title for powertrading. lol

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Aside from Bacon, Malice, Herb, and a very select group...


hi, my name is Swagvault.


I don't have the screenie, but Dr. Evove (alliance member) asked this monk in an outpost how much his FoW cost. The response? "$80"


You can lambast me for pulling the 'ebay' card, but it's so rampant it's ridiculous.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWasabi
The key to thousands of ectos is powertrading.
It helps if you know a dev or two, too.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Aside from Bacon, Malice, Herb, and a very select group...

Yeah, Yeah, and I have heard about this Korean kid thats so rich A-Net borrows ectos from him to keep the game going.

Brian Fellow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

[STAR]

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Back in the day with Tyria only, fellblade, stormbows, and chaos axes were 100k + ectos. Sold quite a few that way but now I'm poor again with armor buying and donating.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Yeah, Yeah, and I have heard about this Korean kid thats so rich A-Net borrows ectos from him to keep the game going.
You've proven time and time again to be something of a moron. Can you enlighten us on what the hell you're saying?
Herb, Malice, and Bacon are some of the wealthiest players in this game ever, with unconditionals in their collective possession.
You don't get 4000 ectos from farming UW to death, you get it from serious high-end trading or purchasing gold.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
You've proven time and time again to be something of a moron. Can you enlighten us on what the hell you're saying?
Herb, Malice, and Bacon are some of the wealthiest players in this game ever, with unconditionals in their collective possession.
You don't get 4000 ectos from farming UW to death, you get it from serious high-end trading or purchasing gold.
Yeah, and I remember when there was alot of questions regarding some of that wealth, but we all have someone we look up to.

And if not agreeing with you makes me a moron, then I'm a happy moron

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Yeah, and I remember when there was alot of questions regarding some of that wealth, but we all have someone we look up to.

And if not agreeing with you makes me a moron, then I'm a happy moron
Ehm, Malice once said he bought a panda for 500 ectos and sold it for 1500 + xx arms ( not too sure about the numbers, but w/e hope you get the points ), this alone made him a couple of thousands of ectos richer, so stop accusing ppl of duping/ebaying/whatever if you dont know shit.
There are several ppl that have a big weapon collection worth several millions, if they need money they sell one weapon for lets say, a stack of ectos, this stack of ectos was farmed by someone who felt like farming it, and in this way there are several people who once bought lots of rare high end items, and selling them now, in times that people have more money, as the game already exists longer.
The longer the game lasts, the more ectos will be farmed, the more they will end up in someones xunlai chest as currency.

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Ehm, Malice once said he bought a panda for 500 ectos and sold it for 1500 + xx arms ( not too sure about the numbers, but w/e hope you get the points ), this alone made him a couple of thousands of ectos richer, so stop accusing ppl of duping/ebaying/whatever if you dont know shit.
There are several ppl that have a big weapon collection worth several millions, if they need money they sell one weapon for lets say, a stack of ectos, this stack of ectos was farmed by someone who felt like farming it, and in this way there are several people who once bought lots of rare high end items, and selling them now, in times that people have more money, as the game already exists longer.
The longer the game lasts, the more ectos will be farmed, the more they will end up in someones xunlai chest as currency.
Yeah, and back before Factions there was no mini pets or super Items, exept a few Chrystaline swords. And Malice was allready then super rich.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

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You actually believe that those tards have 10000 ectos?

They are obviously bullshitting, and if they aren't , then they are pretty dumb as hell because that amount of ecto would go for a LOT of real life cash.

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stockholm
Yeah, and back before Factions there was no mini pets or super Items, exept a few Chrystaline swords. And Malice was allready then super rich.
Crystaline swords, fellblades, serpent axes, dwarven axes, mursaat bow/hammer, magmas shields, dual reduction shields, all those were high end back then, so enough items to invest cash/ectos in...


Hell, there was a time where sup absorbs and sup vigors were 50k +, and ppl had 10 of those, so big deal... AND since then prices have consistently gone ( are going ) up as there was (is) increasingly more money in the game....

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

How do people get that much in-game cash?

1. They buy it with real world cash.

2. They traded with the dupers before the dupers were banned, and were allowed to keep the huge stacks of duped armbraces they received.

3. They scammed newbies... I mean they "powertraded."

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
How do people get that much in-game cash?

1. They buy it with real world cash.

2. They traded with the dupers before the dupers were banned, and were allowed to keep the huge stacks of duped armbraces they received.

3. They scammed newbies... I mean they "powertraded."
4. They are/was Price Gurus

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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doesnt matter...I play the game to play the game...standing around power trading is NOT what the game was about----so if someone has all that money I doubt they have been doing much besides selling crapp for sometime (or the dupe conspiracy sounds plausible too)....

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Ehm, Malice once said he bought a panda for 500 ectos and sold it for 1500 + xx arms .
And I bought an island guardian for 10k and sold for 1000 armbraces.
I dont wanna accuse anyone, but you can say whatever you want. This applies to statements like above and to x thousands of ecto bids as well.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

It's also luck too. I remember I was poor and I was chest running with my warrior in hell's (this was before factions came out) and I nailed a sephis axe with 15^50 req 10 that I sold for 800k (this was when they were super rare). It was like I hit the guild wars lotto, man was I excited.

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Around

Pillar's of Earth [ROCK]

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I was filthy rich in diablo2 LOD, with over 12 accounts (8 characters each) completely filled with high runes (muted dupes that I traded for to make legit, 98% of all highrunes are dupes btw.) I had atleast one of every single high end unique item in the game with max stats and over 100 accounts of mules (8 characters each) filled with trade items like Enigma, Coh, Coa, Infinity, Phoenix and many more very high end items.

Thats was after 6 years of playing on and off. I ran so many mf runs I could watch tv while I did them and never use a potion.
The amount of effort to stay rich wore me out, I still play d2lod, but I have no desire to be rich.

After all that its made me decide one very important thing. I do not want to be rich on guildwars because I do not want to spent my entire gw career becoming rich. I'd rather play the game with satisfactory gear which IMO is the best of both worlds.

I also don't think I will ever try to become rich on any other game, It turns the game into something else. I only want to have a good enough income to buy what I need to enjoy the game, I do not need excess. I have no E-peen at all. Impressing people does not bring me enjoyment.

Shiro Katagari

Shiro Katagari

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

The Frontier Wolves

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Here's what 'rich' means to me...

Today I blew 50k plus materials on Monument armour for my Mesmer. This is an extravagent luxury purchase for me - that 50k probably represents 10% of everything I have of worth in the game

I've never seen an ecto drop in my 3 years of playing, never farmed worth a damn, never tried DoA (and since I have too many functioning brain cells to go Ursan it doesn't look like I ever will) and the two 100k+XXe items I have I'm too attached to to sell, so I guess I have to resign myself to being poor(ish).

Just as well the game's so darned fun :P

maraxusofk

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Maximus
While browsing guru for a while I've found myself staring the screen with the greatest astonishment I have even known; Players are offering sums of 4000e and up for a mini Panda. After regaining consciousness and eventually deciding NOT to commit suicide, I've decided to open a new thread about the whole Ultra-Super-Duper-Rich-Guys matter.
there you explained it yourself OP.

*oops didnt see dallcingi already said the same thing earlier lol tldr*

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²
Crystaline swords, fellblades, serpent axes, dwarven axes, mursaat bow/hammer, magmas shields, dual reduction shields, all those were high end back then, so enough items to invest cash/ectos in...
i do believe tyrian versions of these items are still worth alot

yeah alot of players who could be extremely rich dont care about it so much. for example, there are still several r7's, tyrian 15>50 crystallines, and unconditionals out there. those owners could undoubetably unload each for several stacks of ectos. however, most of the ppl i know who have those weapons choose to customize them. why? they dont care about how many ectos they have. they play the game to play, and a bonus 20% dmg is pretty useful imo.

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

It is possible for anybody to get rich. Especially with the uber UW-farming builds that are out now. You just need to dedicate the time to it. (I'd prefer having a life, personally.) Nobody (except other dupers) can ever hope to compete with the armbrace hoarders.

Thing is that how rich you are doesn't matter anyway. Next year at this time nobody will care that your GW1 storage is filled with stacks of ectos, as they will all be busy trying to get rich in GW2.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

You guys are forgetting Akhilleus, he used to be the shit.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

getting rich is easy, spread 12 hours aday farming i can get anywhere from 120e of 140e if iwanted too but i just do about 5 solo runs for 40e a day.i like to do othjer things besides solo farm with soloing being boring and all.
in the last 4weeks i have gotton 4 stacks of ecto. and im not a serious player fo rmoney i have it spent in matter of hours

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by therangereminem
getting rich is easy, spread 12 hours aday farming i can get anywhere from 120e of 140e if iwanted too but i just do about 5 solo runs for 40e a day.i like to do othjer things besides solo farm with soloing being boring and all.
in the last 4weeks i have gotton 4 stacks of ecto. and im not a serious player fo rmoney i have it spent in matter of hours
so solo farming is boring but you solofarm 40e a day....

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

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ProgTes

ProgTes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Under that rock.

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Call me stupid, but how can you even put 4k ectos in a trade? In d2lod there was (is) something called faith concerning trades with >40 gems/runes, but I doubt that someone will sell a panda for 1750e and expect the other player to drop the rest on the ground. And armbraces go for, what, 30 ectos? You buy 80 armbraces for that?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobey
You know whats your problem? You have rich friends (or bragging liars) .

Who cares if they are rich and can buy 102485 pandas. You play your game and play it the way you like it. Knowing that someone owns 102485 pandas does not make me feel poor or pathetic.

Oh, and since you mentioned about people offering 4000ectos on the panda, don't forget most of them are bidding without even having 1% of it. They bid with e-peen.
There is your winning answer.

scythefromunder

scythefromunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

CA

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

Ppl just WTB moar gold/ectos from gold sellers. thats probably how most of the "rich" ppl that are on GW get their ectos and cash.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by scythefromunder
Ppl just WTB moar gold/ectos from gold sellers. thats probably how most of the "rich" ppl that are on GW get their ectos and cash.
Don't be stupid.

#1 To buy the amount of cash I had, you'd need to be seriously rich in real life.

#2 Money is easy to make in GW.

#3 Most of the high end scrubs bid with cash they don't have.

#4 The game has been out 3years+ now. Anyone with half a brain should have made at least a million by now.

I can go on, but you're to closed minded to be worth the hassle.

SgtTomTom

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Magus Order

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProgTes
Call me stupid, but how can you even put 4k ectos in a trade? In d2lod there was (is) something called faith concerning trades with >40 gems/runes, but I doubt that someone will sell a panda for 1750e and expect the other player to drop the rest on the ground. And armbraces go for, what, 30 ectos? You buy 80 armbraces for that?
^This, ive always wondered the same.

Destiny2097

Destiny2097

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

play moar DupeWars

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Don't be stupid.

#1 To buy the amount of cash I had, you'd need to be seriously rich in real life.

#2 Money is easy to make in GW.

#3 Most of the high end scrubs bid with cash they don't have.

#4 The game has been out 3years+ now. Anyone with half a brain should have made at least a million by now.

I can go on, but you're to closed minded to be worth the hassle.
1. It isn't a secret tha many people duped ecto's. Anet even admitted there was a duping glich.

2. It isn't "unreal" to assume that for every 50-100 dupers banned, 1 got through the nets.

3. It is unreal to assume that powertrading can net you so much money. Sure, you can be at the right place/right spot once, but how often can that happen? Buying/Selling Ecto's always works, and I'm pretty sure you can make alot of money with it, but NO, no the ammounts were talking about here...

4. It is NOT easy to cash in GW. This is rather strange comming from someone as "experienced" as yourself in power-trading. Power-Trading (Which is the only alternative besides duping/botting/...) relies on the fact there is few people controlling trades for the masses. It's like Walmart and these other Hyper-Stores. Most of there products arn't theirs, but they can simple buy them in masses (relativly cheap), and sell them in smaller ammounts to the "little" people...
The more people you have power-trading, the lesser profit they will individually make, and the larger the factor of "Luck" (Right place, right time) will get.

5. It's all personal opinion. We could give scientific proof "God" doesn't exist, and some Christians would still say it's fake...
So there is NO point in flaming someone for something what he believes is "real". I myself believe most rich people duped ecto's in the past, and simply were the few lucky fish that got past the nets of Anet. I also believe there is/was some favoratism in the past by certain devs.

6. I won't, however, start flaming someone for having opinions different then mine (Unless he's being agressive). I will merely try and "proove" him wrong (If I know I'm right and he isn't), just like he will try and proove me wrong.

7. We can't proof anyone duped, you (General for all the super-rich people) can't proof you didn't dupe... Empty discussion.

EroChrono

EroChrono

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Netherlands

[WitB]

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If you are up to date on market value (mini's being the easiest), and got patience to sell your items, you can go from 1k (made off the starter quests) to 100k's-millions in mere days/weeks.
From time to time it takes luck and being at the right time at the right place, but it isn't all that hard.

Shame I don't have any patience :P

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Order of the Divine WoodChuck

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hmmmm...

I've made friends in GW that PM me just to chat even if they have moved to other guilds and alliances just to see how i'm doing.

If i ask for help in AC there's always a couple of ppl answering and willing to help

Whenever i can i always help allies/friends/guildies in the best way i can.

Now, for all this i consider myself rich.


Those ppl you re talking about are wealthy, and having a Gazillion armbrace has nothing to do with being rich.

Friendship, fun in missions, in ally/guild chat, helping a new player with the basic of the game; none of this can be bought with armbrace but the are the most valuable things you can have in this game.

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
Don't be stupid.

#1 To buy the amount of cash I had, you'd need to be seriously rich in real life.

#2 Money is easy to make in GW.

#3 Most of the high end scrubs bid with cash they don't have.

#4 The game has been out 3years+ now. Anyone with half a brain should have made at least a million by now.

I can go on, but you're to closed minded to be worth the hassle.
I agree - its amazingly easy to get all the money you need in this game. I set a goal two weeks ago to max out my storage chest gold. In 10 days (just a couple hours each day) I make over 850k and maxed storage. Just think of what you could make given the length of time this game has been out and all the different ways of making money (legitimate ways).

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miska Bow
hmmmm...

I've made friends in GW that PM me just to chat even if they have moved to other guilds and alliances just to see how i'm doing.

If i ask for help in AC there's always a couple of ppl answering and willing to help

Whenever i can i always help allies/friends/guildies in the best way i can.

Now, for all this i consider myself rich.


Those ppl you re talking about are wealthy, and having a Gazillion armbrace has nothing to do with being rich.

Friendship, fun in missions, in ally/guild chat, helping a new player with the basic of the game; none of this can be bought with armbrace but the are the most valuable things you can have in this game.
Did you seriously just subject Riverside to some Chicken Soup for the Hopeless Loser soul?

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Order of the Divine WoodChuck

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Did you seriously just subject Riverside to some Chicken Soup for the Hopeless Loser soul?
Let me be more direct if you will. Lots of players dont care shit about armbraces and i'm one of them.

Seriously are you giving some real value to some pixels???