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Originally Posted by Miska Bow
Seriously are you giving some real value to some pixels???
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So yes, seriously, there's some value to some pixels, Mr. Life Coach
Can you really be THAT rich?
Snow Bunny
So yes, seriously, there's some value to some pixels, Mr. Life Coach
Miska Bow
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Delta Formation - $800
So yes, seriously, there's some value to some pixels, Mr. Life Coach |
EroChrono
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Delta Formation - $800
So yes, seriously, there's some value to some pixels, Mr. Life Coach |
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Originally Posted by BBC News
A record has been set for the sale of virtual items in an online game as a World of Warcraft account is believed to have changed hands for almost £5,000 (7,000 euros).
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Makes DF trade look like childs play
Selket
Guild Wars is so hard, how 2 make money????
I've had like 10+ million gold, more if I was patient and good at selling (3 hod axes, etc...) or bought more HoD Axes to begin with.
I wish they didn't nerf the HoD Axe, that was like the best thing ever.
I've had like 10+ million gold, more if I was patient and good at selling (3 hod axes, etc...) or bought more HoD Axes to begin with.
I wish they didn't nerf the HoD Axe, that was like the best thing ever.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Selket
Guild Wars is so hard, how 2 make money????
I've had like 10+ million gold, more if I was patient and good at selling (3 hod axes, etc...) or bought more HoD Axes to begin with. I wish they didn't nerf the HoD Axe, that was like the best thing ever. |
Selket
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Originally Posted by Yichi
You still haven't farmed my polar bear. How disappointed in you I am.
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sry
StormDragonZ
Who cares who is rich? Ask yourself how many people in this game currently have less than 20k gold in their storage...
I always consider 150-300k as being the average player's current storage gold at this time... at least one who has played longer than a year.
Nonetheless, those stacks of Ectoplasm and Armbraces will have nothing to do with GW2 unless ANet decided to allow stacks of "special items" to be accepted in the Hall of Monuments.
I always consider 150-300k as being the average player's current storage gold at this time... at least one who has played longer than a year.
Nonetheless, those stacks of Ectoplasm and Armbraces will have nothing to do with GW2 unless ANet decided to allow stacks of "special items" to be accepted in the Hall of Monuments.
Jenn
It takes a bit of luck to get rich, and then some heartlessness + luck to get very rich. Some people are just those type of people who have gotten several good drops at the right time and greatly profited from it. From there they could invest more money into trading and make good deals. Mind, some of the best deals sometimes come at the expense of the less-experienced players, and so you knowingly take from someone unknowing.
The duping scandal also allowed for a great increase in the number of ectos/armbraces something is worth. With so many stacks of ectos and armbraces added to the market, the value of them fell, but the actual price of the some minis did not, so it made them look more expensive. The ecto/armbrace reserve got bigger, and so did the "price" for minis.
People who had rare items before the scandal have greatly benfited from it. If you had a Panda before the scandal and bought it for 1500e, you could then resell it for 4000e. You didn't have to be a duper to get rich, just be in the right place at the right time.
The duping scandal also allowed for a great increase in the number of ectos/armbraces something is worth. With so many stacks of ectos and armbraces added to the market, the value of them fell, but the actual price of the some minis did not, so it made them look more expensive. The ecto/armbrace reserve got bigger, and so did the "price" for minis.
People who had rare items before the scandal have greatly benfited from it. If you had a Panda before the scandal and bought it for 1500e, you could then resell it for 4000e. You didn't have to be a duper to get rich, just be in the right place at the right time.
dilan155
i,in comparison to many, is probably very very poor,i got one set of elite armor,not obsidion, a req 11 voltaic and about 25k in the bank, yet i am not undeterred. imho the only thing "nice" items do is jus that look nice. there is absoulutely no dif b/w a req 9 perfect longsword and a req 9 crystalline perfect besides the rarity. Most of thses rich ppl were ppl taht plaid since the beggining when there were deent 55s unconditional weps 3rd year minis and a long time to HA to get some good rare weps. the only thing you can do is to farm when you can and not focus on the rarity
p.s- sorry for long post
p.s- sorry for long post
Malice Black
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1. It isn't a secret tha many people duped ecto's. Anet even admitted there was a duping glich.
3. It is unreal to assume that powertrading can net you so much money. Sure, you can be at the right place/right spot once, but how often can that happen? Buying/Selling Ecto's always works, and I'm pretty sure you can make alot of money with it, but NO, no the ammounts were talking about here... 4. It is NOT easy to cash in GW. This is rather strange comming from someone as "experienced" as yourself in power-trading. Power-Trading (Which is the only alternative besides duping/botting/...) relies on the fact there is few people controlling trades for the masses. It's like Walmart and these other Hyper-Stores. Most of there products arn't theirs, but they can simple buy them in masses (relativly cheap), and sell them in smaller ammounts to the "little" people... The more people you have power-trading, the lesser profit they will individually make, and the larger the factor of "Luck" (Right place, right time) will get. |
Power trading is hardly rocket science. It only takes 100k and some patience, and if you're good/lucky, that 100k can be turned into a million in under a week. Easy money, just not for people not willing to put the time in. Once you've established yourself a name within the trading community, tarding tales little to no time. People will come to you with offers or items.
Now back to trading. A little thinking on my part netted me many millions. Bought 2 panda at release for 900e each. I resold them when the big boom hit for 1500e+250 armbraces each. Now granted they were duped braces no doubt, but Anet seen fit no to remove duped braces, so the trade was legit, if a little shady.
So I turned what was a fair amount of cash into wealth beyond 99% of the current player base. Others have done the same. Easy money, no farming required. And I've only played 1.7k hours over 35months (take away some extensive afk, and 4-6months no playing), so no, I'm no lifeless wonder.
Point proven? Or do I need to write more? Prefer not to. People moan I'm boasting my e-peen lol anyone who knows me ingame knows different.
Can you really be that rich? Simple answer is yes. Can 99% of the player base be that rich? hell no. Even so, everyone should have at least 100k. It's quite amusing reading posts from people who've never had more then 10-20k.
Ok. I'm done.
quickmonty
Games are for relaxing, after working in the real world to make real money.
The Meth
I think I remember reading somewhere that the average guild wars player had 20k in their bank. Whether that is true or not, it sounds more then enough. Equipping a new character all the way to the max costs about 20k, anything more is just vanity.
I personally have about 1400 ectos though, mostly because I just don't buy much and I have gotten lucky on a number of good trades. You don't have to spend 10 hours a day in game to keep an eye out for great trades for 5 mins in spamadon every time you log in.
I know friends who have almost no money though, and if they have an actual need for items (instead of just wanting 15k vanity armor) I help them out.
damn, and I thought I was lucky. Anet should have deleted those 
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You can't really attribute that sell to 'a little thinking', unless you somehow were banking on the fact that someone would find a way to dupe armbraces
I personally have about 1400 ectos though, mostly because I just don't buy much and I have gotten lucky on a number of good trades. You don't have to spend 10 hours a day in game to keep an eye out for great trades for 5 mins in spamadon every time you log in.
I know friends who have almost no money though, and if they have an actual need for items (instead of just wanting 15k vanity armor) I help them out.
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Now back to trading. A little thinking on my part netted me many millions. Bought 2 panda at release for 900e each. I resold them when the big boom hit for 1500e+250 armbraces each. Now granted they were duped braces no doubt, but Anet seen fit no to remove duped braces, so the trade was legit, if a little shady.
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You can't really attribute that sell to 'a little thinking', unless you somehow were banking on the fact that someone would find a way to dupe armbraces
Selket
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Originally Posted by The Meth
I think I remember reading somewhere that the average guild wars player had 20k in their bank. Whether that is true or not, it sounds more then enough. Equipping a new character all the way to the max costs about 20k, anything more is just vanity.
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Savio
But wasn't that quote made in 2005/2006? Pretty sure anybody playing since then has had plenty of time to make money.
Age
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
Power trading is hardly rocket science. It only takes 100k and some patience, and if you're good/lucky, that 100k can be turned into a million in under a week. Easy money, just not for people not willing to put the time in. Once you've established yourself a name within the trading community, tarding tales little to no time. People will come to you with offers or items. |
Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
So I turned what was a fair amount of cash into wealth beyond 99% of the current player base. Others have done the same. Easy money, no farming required. And I've only played 1.7k hours over 35months (take away some extensive afk, and 4-6months no playing), so no, I'm no lifeless wonder.
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You can't sell it on e-bay, or at least shouldn't be. So, you make money, do some trades and end up with even more money, rinse and repeat...for what exactly? Especially if you're not actually playing because of all the trading (which I've seen from power traders who seem to live in Kamadan 1), and not planning to use the money to get fancy weapons to impress others with when playing normally or in PvP. Or for titles of course, which makes some sense but doesn't account for all that money just sitting in somebody's bag.
Yeah, so the whole thing confuses me. All that money and ecto...for what? Unless of course all these uber-rich people are planning to create an army and arm them all with Crystalline swords, and tog them out in FoW before taking over the...err, Guild Wars
Meh, each to their own. I've only been farming seriously for the past few months cos I want FoW armor, but beyond that I have no need for uber-stacks of pixels.
Trub
Dylananimus wrote:
Malice loved to buy low, and sell high.
And his generosity to those in the game wanting 'that' armor, or 'that' weapon...was alliance renowned.
To many players, the challenge of trading is as fun as killing chit.
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And his generosity to those in the game wanting 'that' armor, or 'that' weapon...was alliance renowned.
To many players, the challenge of trading is as fun as killing chit.
VladDrakken
I've been playing for 19 months now and let me tell you something ... I'm super rich. I don't farm, I don't do runs, I didn't dupe or ebayed, I didn't have the advantage of being a 3 year veteran, I don't know a dev, I didn't have the opportunity to buy ectos during the accidental price reset nor do I PvP.
My secret ... power trading. There are tons of people selling stuff pretty cheaply out there (they need money quick, they dont know the prices, theyre quitting, they dont have room, etc.) and there are tons of people looking to overpay for those items (want items quick, dont want to spam, want items to use for trade, etc.).
All you have to do is find those people and know your prices. You also need to have a bit of charisma (in this case, silver tongue) to convince people to pay the amount youre asking (without lying of course).
Reading the various message boards and knowing whats the next hot thing is, isnt bad for business either (right now im sitting on 37 armbraces and 33 tormented weapons ... anticipating when these weapons get added to the HOM).
Kutu
PS: Of course i'll never reveal how much I'm worth ... but hopefully, you get the picture above. :P
My secret ... power trading. There are tons of people selling stuff pretty cheaply out there (they need money quick, they dont know the prices, theyre quitting, they dont have room, etc.) and there are tons of people looking to overpay for those items (want items quick, dont want to spam, want items to use for trade, etc.).
All you have to do is find those people and know your prices. You also need to have a bit of charisma (in this case, silver tongue) to convince people to pay the amount youre asking (without lying of course).
Reading the various message boards and knowing whats the next hot thing is, isnt bad for business either (right now im sitting on 37 armbraces and 33 tormented weapons ... anticipating when these weapons get added to the HOM).
Kutu
PS: Of course i'll never reveal how much I'm worth ... but hopefully, you get the picture above. :P
illidan009
OP:
You say you've played around 30 months, I have too(around). But how much time per day do you actually spend on GW? I spend on average less than 1 hour each day playing, not counting summer vacations. So probably if you want stuff like 4k ectos you're gonna have to turn GW into real life
You say you've played around 30 months, I have too(around). But how much time per day do you actually spend on GW? I spend on average less than 1 hour each day playing, not counting summer vacations. So probably if you want stuff like 4k ectos you're gonna have to turn GW into real life
Savio
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But what's the point? I really don't get the whole 'power trading thing'. I mean...for what purpose do you need these stacks and stacks of money?
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jhu
i don't understand people who cry over their own lack of money in this game. why? because money is not that crucial in this game. max armor, and max weapon stats work the same no matter what the skin is. a sundering 15-22, 15^50, +30 hp, req9 sword will work the same whether it's a rusty machete or a crystalline. max armor has the same stats across the board whether it's free (except for the no insignia placement part), 1k, or 15k.
you could argue that you "need" to give your heroes runes and insignias in pve. and i'll tell you i got legendary vanquisher and guardian without buying any runes or insignias for my heroes. and then there's free stuff for your pvp characters if you pvp...
if you want a certain skinned item, you know what you have to do so stop crying and go do it. personally i had over 500k in storage and have given significant chunks of it to guildmates and alliance members mostly because i really don't care to buy anything.
you could argue that you "need" to give your heroes runes and insignias in pve. and i'll tell you i got legendary vanquisher and guardian without buying any runes or insignias for my heroes. and then there's free stuff for your pvp characters if you pvp...
if you want a certain skinned item, you know what you have to do so stop crying and go do it. personally i had over 500k in storage and have given significant chunks of it to guildmates and alliance members mostly because i really don't care to buy anything.
Zexua
As i read this i am thinking wow what luck some have and how a-net hates me. Laughable but at one point i actually thought someone had it out for me. After several solo runs in the uw (roughly65) for ecto i wound up with 6. any solo farm i tried would end up getting me nothing worth a dang. no golds very few purples and zero lockpicks. Conclusion.. some people just have the luck and some dont. i am one that doesn't and have come to face that fact. How some got that rich (luck vs./ dupping).. really, who cares. its a game. yes i would love to have that money and do and buy whatever it is that i wish i could have. but at the end of the day does it really make you a better player or person? IMHO.. no. and if you think it does, how lonely your life really is. and i am sorry for you. 
Lykan
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As i read this i am thinking wow what luck some have and how a-net hates me. Laughable but at one point i actually thought someone had it out for me. After several solo runs in the uw (roughly65) for ecto i wound up with 6. any solo farm i tried would end up getting me nothing worth a dang. no golds very few purples and zero lockpicks. Conclusion.. some people just have the luck and some dont. i am one that doesn't and have come to face that fact. How some got that rich (luck vs./ dupping).. really, who cares. its a game. yes i would love to have that money and do and buy whatever it is that i wish i could have. but at the end of the day does it really make you a better player or person? IMHO.. no. and if you think it does, how lonely your life really is. and i am sorry for you.
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-Lotus-
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Is god playing with my mind? Could it be I'm the unluckiest man on earth? Or maybe I'm just a big, fat n00b?
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the people that have been playing from the begining had way bigger opportunities to make tons of money than you did. the smart ones that wanted to be rich started power trading, and kept doing it. now they can buy mini pandas.
Edge Martinez
The richest I've ever been was like back when B/P's were farming tombs. I had like 135k. Then I blew most of it on 15k enchanters armor, on a mesmer I've long since deleted, and 15k wanderer's monk armor, quite possibly the most covert set of 15k armor on the game. My monk still rocks that. As of typing this, I have zero money in storage, no ectos, no black dyes, no gems, no shards, and don't plan on chasing any of those things either. I sure as hell wouldn't spend 4000 ectos on a little pokemon panda. If I had that many ectos, I'd buy my whole guild fow armor till they ran out.... or design one hell of a contest, winner takes all. I think most fow is ugly except for the mes, which i no longer have one of them.
Pleikki
idd With Power Trading is Probably easyest way get rich but its booring as hell.
Trader of Secrets
I see it that those who have money woes, usually dont have many campaigns that are crucial to easy farming, ex Ursan. It is possible to get a hell lot of money. Have you seen the farming thread? It is chucked full of sin builds to farm loads of ecto. Its seems to be at such an ease that some people are worried that the ecto may lose its value, since every once in a while u see it drop and rise.
Still take into consideration that there is a number of people who also buy their gold with real cash, sad or they have a lot of money to throw.
Still take into consideration that there is a number of people who also buy their gold with real cash, sad or they have a lot of money to throw.
ALF71BE
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Games are for relaxing, after working in the real world to make real money.
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Getting THAT rich requires been playing for some long time, and have been there in the right time. Not only that, but lots, lots of patience.
To get averaged rich (500k-1 million) takes only a few weeks, at most, of normal gameplay.
Tutis Evito
Whats is in game money/ecto's anyway....we cant transfer them to GW2
enter_the_zone
Guild Wars is 3 years old....
That's 1095 ish days. So, 4000 ectos is actually only 4 per day, every day. And that's without any powertrading at all.
So, it's possible to have 4000 ectos quite legitimately, but very few people will.
The stacks of ambraces on the other hand...
That's 1095 ish days. So, 4000 ectos is actually only 4 per day, every day. And that's without any powertrading at all.
So, it's possible to have 4000 ectos quite legitimately, but very few people will.
The stacks of ambraces on the other hand...
Thecrocodile
Yes you can, Someone on my friends list farms and gets like 30k in money and somtimes dyes... I forget where he got them but you can do it(very stupid idea)
It normally takes a half an hour(that sucks)
It normally takes a half an hour(that sucks)
kobey
Farming has a rather constant gold earning rate nowadays. No more ultra rare stuff. So if you want to hit 4000ectos, you basically need [4000e/rate of gold]Hrs.
Power trading, well, it depends
Power trading, well, it depends
Zamochit
4000e = 400 hours in UW (estimate) with the current FotM farm. /age your character - there havent always been farms as consistantly profitable I grant you, but a competant player who is willing to invest the time into it can make as much money as they like really, powertrading helps but now excluding the ultra high end items, farming is once again a viable source of income.
well until they nerf the permasin into the ground anyway.
well until they nerf the permasin into the ground anyway.
Nemesis of God
Answer to OP, well let's think i farmed today 15 ectos. (2h, would be less if wouldn't be so bad spawn.
4000 / 15 = 266. 266 days to get 4000 ectos if you get 15 in day...
Okay, just noticed. * Goes to farm *
4000 / 15 = 266. 266 days to get 4000 ectos if you get 15 in day...
Okay, just noticed. * Goes to farm *
BenjZee
once you've got a fair amount i suppose trading minipets and stuff can get you ectos of profit each time.
i know you can earn quite abit off FFF and running ATFH quest. its mostly about keeping up to date and finding the latest schemes before everyone else copies
i know you can earn quite abit off FFF and running ATFH quest. its mostly about keeping up to date and finding the latest schemes before everyone else copies
gw_poster
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Games are for relaxing, after working in the real world to make real money.
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Dylananimus
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What purpose do you have playing the game? Some people enjoy the storyline, others like to PvP, and some just like having lots of money. If someone enjoys playing the game by running around as a naked male warrior in Lion's Arch, why should he care what the point is?
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I still don't get the need for stacks of money that's not actually 'giving' you anything though *shrug* That's probs me though, and I guess I'd understand it more if those uber-rich people did actually spend it all on stuff they genuinely liked, or used it to buy presents for people. It seems like pretty much they just hoard the gold however, just to make more with it...which I'm afraid does still seem silly to me.
Meh, guess it's just me though...lol If I have too much gold I tend to start buying stuff for people or giving stuff away (only to guildies and friends obviously), I wouldn't see the point in just letting it accumulate. Unless I was saving for something
Good going if you can power trade and find that entertaining or enjoying though
Beanpie
Dupe+farming+scamming=rich
Taisayacho
Agree with OP. I always feel poor. I have all the tools to farm, I just find it incredibly dull >.>
I make it by with z-keys and occasional 600/smite or perma-SF farms. Overall, I'm glad I kept my real life fairly intact over being uber-rich in a game.
I make it by with z-keys and occasional 600/smite or perma-SF farms. Overall, I'm glad I kept my real life fairly intact over being uber-rich in a game.
Hara Makoto
ofc there are people without lifes out there :P either they scammed noobs , or powertraded alot , or have spent every hour of their life since DoA came out farming armbraces .