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Originally Posted by Shaz
Doubt it, mend touch has faster cast and can remove conditions on other, which is good for split.
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on another note, got my reward points!
Update - Thursday June 12
distilledwill
on another note, got my reward points!
Tyla
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Originally Posted by distilledwill
Also, will antidote sig replace Mendtouch? with rangers moving back to /me?
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Giga_Gaia
Wasn't Mystic Regen nerfed due to farming reasons to begin with?
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
You've got to be kidding me if you think this is fair in PVP play. You just made it even easier NOT to have to play a MONK 2ndary to get the kind of condition clensing of a monk. Yahboy more loving for the Ranger class with this pos skill balancing. Why don't you just go ahead and make it a FREE MONK PURGE skill I mean what's left when you purge blind, bleeding, disease and one other condition? Bye bye deep wound on rangers anymore. (only leaves cripple and weaken and cracked armor and daze whoopity doo) This is retarded and is worse than Ursans Blessing.
 Whatever it gives rangers an unfair advantage of removing conditions without monk class. Where's the warriors? paragons? dervishers? assassins FREE condition remover in their class?? huh where?Other than that the rest of the skill nerfs/buffs look fine. |
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Originally Posted by Giga_Gaia
Wasn't Mystic Regen nerfed due to farming reasons to begin with?
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same goes for all the people wondering why barbed arrows is so much worse than apply poison. poison is a ranger thing, they do it well. bleeding is not, other classes do it better.
Syco Masato
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
some classes are better at certain things than others. anet obviously wants self condition removal to be something rangers have access too. this also explains the difference between remedy signet and antidote signet; paragons do not excel at doing things for themself, they have partywide condition removal like cautery signet. if every class was able to do everything equally why would it matter what class you were?
edit: no, in fact things are rarely if ever nerfed for farming reasons. mystic regen was nerfed because of its pvp implications. edit2: same goes for all the people wondering why barbed arrows is so much worse than apply poison. poison is a ranger thing, they do it well. bleeding is not, other classes do it better. |
Every class has things they're good at.
SerenitySilverstar
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Nice update, but not sure anything can make [symbolic strike] worth filling up my wars bar full of signets....
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Even with 10 or 12 in smiting, Undead go boom.
Turtle222
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Originally Posted by Giga_Gaia
Wasn't Mystic Regen nerfed due to farming reasons to begin with?
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AR and Splinter have been nerfed beyond redemption. R.I.P.
ouch FGJ
Barbed arrows???? can someone explain to me what made it so OP?
Antidote signet: WOOO!
i like this update. not the rit nerfs, but everything else is dandy
Spirit Of Azrael
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Originally Posted by edwinna elbert
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Takes a hit in PvP...
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shit!
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Turtle222
Barbed arrows???? can someone explain to me what made it so OP?
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Omnidragon42
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
the update to barbed arrows was not a nerf
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Aera Lure
Yay. Smite nerfs. Fully understood for PvP but I'm still looking for the line to get some love in PvE.
Riceboi
Ok unlimited minions next update! Come On!!!! lol
Hyper Cutter
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But what the hell is with Barbed Arrows? What makes it so much better than [apply poison] to keep putting these stupid conditions on it?
Ate of DK
The common ritualist in the HA balance builds took a hit.
I like how they buffed a few skills to make them more attractive.
I like how they buffed a few skills to make them more attractive.
cellardweller
Why the heck was FGJ a pvp only nerf???
Earthshaker AoE Knocklock
Brawling Headbutt knocklock
Dragonslash/SY spam
24/7 Imbagon
All these gamebreaking combinations are dependent on FGJ, PvE desperately needs the nerf too!
Earthshaker AoE Knocklock
Brawling Headbutt knocklock
Dragonslash/SY spam
24/7 Imbagon
All these gamebreaking combinations are dependent on FGJ, PvE desperately needs the nerf too!
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by cellardweller
All these gamebreaking combinations are dependent on FGJ, PvE desperately needs the nerf too!
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DarkNecrid
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Steps_Descending
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
As already mentioned in Avarre's thread, ArenaNet is appealing to the lowest common denominator and not giving a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO about anybody else. Lowest common denominator in this case being hella casual people who don't give two shits about how the actual game is, and want everything to be easy. You're pretty much never getting a nerf in PvE ever again. Enjoy!!!
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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark
* Ancestors' Rage: increased duration to 2 seconds; decreased damage to 5..50; functionality changed to: "For 2 seconds all foes adjacent to target ally are struck for 5..50 lightning damage each second."
* "For Great Justice!": functionality changed to: "For 20 seconds, when you hit with an attack, you gain 1 additional strike of adrenaline." |
garethporlest18
I got my RPs too. So that's great. For everything else, I liked some of the changes, nothing I really wanted to see changed though.
HawkofStorms
Good:
Fix to the catapult.
Fix to the UW teleporter abuse.
Anicidote signet and Barbed Arrow buffs.
Rust having some damage added. Not a bad idea.
Ancestral Rage spike is gone.
Bad:
Mystic Regen buff. It was perfectly fine as is. This just shows a.net is caving in. They buffed this skill soley so people could 55/105 with this skill again... which is the reason they nerfed it in the first place. Stupid.
Nerfs to Bathazar's Pendulum. Seriously why?
For Great Justice nerf in PvP. Defeats the point of this skill, and was never abused in serious PvP anyways. Enduring harmony + DS + FGJ was always purely a PvE or scrub PvP (RA, AB) build, which even then is pretty weak without any sort of utility.
Nuetral:
Soul Bind. I actually liked the old functionality beause it was so unusual. Was one of the few necro builds I still played. Now its just... boring.
Charge and Symboic Strike. Meh.
Fetrid ground/suffering buffs... Unnecessary.
Overall, A LOT more beneficial things (stuff that ends griefing is ALWAYS good) then bad, but still, some odd choices that are probablly not what I would have made. Even so, I'm happy.
Edit:@ Hyper Cutter, what makes Barbed Arrows better then Apply Poison is that Rangers have lots of ways to apply poison, but not a lot of ways to apply bleeding (barbed trap and some vanguard skills are it I think). Barbed arrows allows you to combo poison and bleeding together (poision tip signet for example), which is it's appeal.
Fix to the catapult.
Fix to the UW teleporter abuse.
Anicidote signet and Barbed Arrow buffs.
Rust having some damage added. Not a bad idea.
Ancestral Rage spike is gone.
Bad:
Mystic Regen buff. It was perfectly fine as is. This just shows a.net is caving in. They buffed this skill soley so people could 55/105 with this skill again... which is the reason they nerfed it in the first place. Stupid.
Nerfs to Bathazar's Pendulum. Seriously why?
For Great Justice nerf in PvP. Defeats the point of this skill, and was never abused in serious PvP anyways. Enduring harmony + DS + FGJ was always purely a PvE or scrub PvP (RA, AB) build, which even then is pretty weak without any sort of utility.
Nuetral:
Soul Bind. I actually liked the old functionality beause it was so unusual. Was one of the few necro builds I still played. Now its just... boring.
Charge and Symboic Strike. Meh.
Fetrid ground/suffering buffs... Unnecessary.
Overall, A LOT more beneficial things (stuff that ends griefing is ALWAYS good) then bad, but still, some odd choices that are probablly not what I would have made. Even so, I'm happy.
Edit:@ Hyper Cutter, what makes Barbed Arrows better then Apply Poison is that Rangers have lots of ways to apply poison, but not a lot of ways to apply bleeding (barbed trap and some vanguard skills are it I think). Barbed arrows allows you to combo poison and bleeding together (poision tip signet for example), which is it's appeal.
Gregslot
Some of you are forgetting every class can go /R and equip antidote signet.
blackknight1337
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Ancestral Rage spike is gone. Bad: Mystic Regen buff. It was perfectly fine as is. This just shows a.net is caving in. They buffed this skill soley so people could 55/105 with this skill again... which is the reason they nerfed it in the first place. Stupid. |
Mystic regen. Was nerfed due to abuse in gvg, particularly on mind blast split eles. Never had the slightest thing to do with pve, let alone farming.
moriz
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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
But what the hell is with Barbed Arrows? What makes it so much better than [apply poison] to keep putting these stupid conditions on it?
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[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]]
now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances.
DarkNecrid
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FGJ isn't even a big nerf. I can count the number of times I've seen FGJ used in serious PvP on one hand.
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GG on being clueless.....
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Brimstonez
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
You have to be joking or sarcastic. No offense, but no one is actually stupid enough to have wrote this being serious. |
Giga_Gaia
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Edit:@ Hyper Cutter, what makes Barbed Arrows better then Apply Poison is that Rangers have lots of ways to apply poison, but not a lot of ways to apply bleeding (barbed trap and some vanguard skills are it I think). Barbed arrows allows you to combo poison and bleeding together (poision tip signet for example), which is it's appeal.
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Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by moriz
it's mainly because of this combo:
[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]] now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances. |
*Paris*
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Originally Posted by moriz
it's mainly because of this combo:
[poison [email protected]][barbed [email protected]] now combined with the new [[pin [email protected]], the build is powerful enough to challenge the cripshot in most instances. |
shoyon456
Adresses nothing of what I hoped it would.
Oh well, there's always next week :P
Oh well, there's always next week :P
Magikarp
my mesmer has been happy with everything as of late.. all of my other characters.. not so much lol..
btw... WTF, when will Izzy get SWAY off of the face of the planet????
btw... WTF, when will Izzy get SWAY off of the face of the planet????
ManMadeGod
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Originally Posted by Teh [prefession]-zorz
* Soul Bind: decreased casting time to 1 second; functionality changed to: "For 30 seconds, every time target foe is healed, the healer takes 20..80 damage. This hex ends if target is suffering from a Smiting Prayers hex."
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But it will be a little better than Scourge Healing because it's on Curses line.
Honestly I am disappointed with this change. Just another copy, not creative at all.
Still not good enough for an elite tho.
Add -3 degen or something.
This hex ends if target is suffering from a Smiting Prayers hex...
I think "every time target foe is healed, the healer takes 20..80 damage if target is not under any smiting prayers hex" is much more reasonable, because it's an elite.
-Lotus-
never thought I would see a nerfe to one of the worst elites in the game... the rest of this isnt surprising, just stupid.
Skye Marin
Soul Bind would be more handy if it triggered on heals and enchantments. Adding weapon spells to that would be bonus too... a guy can dream can't he?
I think I would just like more. More meaningful buffs, relevant nerfs, and maybe some reasoning behind certain skill changes.
I think I would just like more. More meaningful buffs, relevant nerfs, and maybe some reasoning behind certain skill changes.
Dragonious
The Soul Bind rework was done to diversify necros in GvG. Not PvE. Not HA. GvG. It can be pretty scary in a hex stack build that doesnt want to use the Smiting Prayers line just for 1 or 2 skills and wants to get those all important Curse skills in. I never saw it being played before, so why not see how it does in a cookie cutter hex build and then we can see if it was a bad decision. Some of you guys have no idea what's going on here...Balth's Pendelum...another very strong skill in a cookie cutter Smiter's Boon build. That's why it was nerfed a bit.
SpiritThief
wtf is this. Do they ever try for balance??
Everytime they come out and change crap they always set it up so everyone will be doing the same thing.
Now its Antidote signet, that will be spammed forever and a day but dumbass left it at 4 recharge? So now rangers not only block well over 50% of the attacks against them, now they are god-like to conditions....whoever does this must have been dropped on their head as a child.
Someone needs to go explain to them what the word balance means.
Everytime they come out and change crap they always set it up so everyone will be doing the same thing.
Now its Antidote signet, that will be spammed forever and a day but dumbass left it at 4 recharge? So now rangers not only block well over 50% of the attacks against them, now they are god-like to conditions....whoever does this must have been dropped on their head as a child.
Someone needs to go explain to them what the word balance means.
Age
I don't understand the Symbol of Wrath or are to many abusing it in pre that is where is great not so much in post.I don't think it would ever get used in pvp.
I agree with Rotten on Barbed Arrows now can they do the same with Etheral Light make it not inturrptable.I stilll use Orisons because of that.
I agree with Rotten on Barbed Arrows now can they do the same with Etheral Light make it not inturrptable.I stilll use Orisons because of that.
HawkofStorms
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There's this thing called balanced builds, where 1 copy of ancestors could assist on a spike.
I'd love to see a mind blast bar with 4+ enchants on it... or the situations when mainteam it's worth a monk putting holy veil or some junk on you just to counter poison degen. (If the enchantment cap was targeting anything in "PvP", it was stoneflesh tanks.) |
Edit: Ohh, the mods cleaned up his post already, way to stay on top of things. I'll edit mine then myself.
And yes Giga, screaming shot is an option, but its too energy extensive to see much play. The point with preps like apply and barbed is to spread the condition to muliple targets, not camp on one guy, which is what you do in a BA/Screaming build.
Nemesis of God
No Shadow Form, Ursan, ''SY!'', ''TNTF'' nerfs... good 
upier
NO WAI!11
A.Net is balancing PvE!
And people actually thought A.Net won't take the easy way in doing that.
A.Net is balancing PvE!
And people actually thought A.Net won't take the easy way in doing that.