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Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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04 Jul 2008 at 01:59 - 1

I used the search feature and didn't see anything about this, so I thought I'd start a thread. We all know how many titles are available today, so I was just wondering what titles you'd like to see removed and wish didn't exist.

Here are my thoughts:

Legendary Defender of Ascalon
Legendary Survivor
Commander
Gladiator
Hero
Champion
Guardian
Vanquisher
Legendary Master of the North

So those are my thoughts. I only chose the PVP ones because I don't play it and don't really like it when I do. And I hate hard mode with a passion, which is why those were included. I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard." Legendary Survivor is such a pain to get and sooo frustrating if you die so close to the title. And LDOA? Don't get me started, who wants to death level and do all that grind? Sure it's great to have but still. What does everyone else think?

Taurucis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The edge of reason

I don't play any more.

W/E

04 Jul 2008 at 02:05 - 2

All of them.

Guild Wars wasn't meant to be a game where you grind ranks, it was supposed to be skill > time.

Instead of all those titles implemented, Anet should have given us new areas, missions, and quests.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

04 Jul 2008 at 02:05 - 3

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Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

04 Jul 2008 at 02:06 - 4

Quote:

I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard."

W T H

I hate to say this first Wolf...but you best toss that flame suit on now.
It's good to have an opinion...shows you actually care for this game.
BUT........
HARD mode IS HARD for reason, many gamers enjoy the challenge..instead of rolling face on the keyboard, in easy mode...

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:09 - 5

I wouldn't remove any. Removing any titles from the game would mean that thousands of players would have had their time wasted. It would also mean that people who may enjoy going for those titles would not be able to, and there would therefore be less to do in the game. If I didn't want a title, I just wouldn't go for it, simple as that.

I would, perhaps, tweak some of them. I would probably make survivor just start from the beginning if a death occurred instead of just making it impossible. Almost everyone uses Fronis Irontoe's dungeon nowadays anyway, so it's not like it can lose any prestige (not that titles should really have prestige. The pursuit of titles should be an enjoyable venture, not something you do to look cool). And even if nobody used that dungeon, it'd just get harder and harder to get by playing through the game normally (less quests and missions to do if you die later in the game).

I would also probably make wisdom and treasure hunter account based, just to reduce the annoying transfer-all-golds-and-salvagable-items-to-that-title-character factor.

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:09 - 6

Norn.

For the most part, titles don't bother me. Gives you something to do when you're not... doing whatever it is you do.

You don't want them? Don't grind for them. Simple.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

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04 Jul 2008 at 02:12 - 7

Didn't exist, easy.

Zaishen, Hero, Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, Party Animal, Dwarven, Vanguard, Norn, Asura, Lightbringer, Sunspear (although love the skills).

Reasons:
Zaishen and Hero=The emote, it bugs the crap to see people spamming them thinking they are gods in the game.

Zaishen, Drunkard, Sweet Tooth, Party Animal: The four most pathetic in terms of how to get. Stand and click a few buttons, joy.

Norn, Asura, Vanguard, Dwarven, Sunspear, Lightbringer: They add too much grind. The reason why I don't add Kurzick and Luxon is because there are 4 ways to get those points (AB, FA/JQ, bounty, and quests/missions), only 2 for the others (bounty and quests/missions). If they were to add other ways to get those titles, I'd be fine with them, although I'd set the bounty to act like the Kurzick/Luxon bounties, give a direct benefit not a "kill this many get these random things."

Those are my thoughts.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:17 - 8

Quote:

I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard."

What? You think hard mode should be less hard? I...I really don't know how to reply to this.

Anyways, I'd have to say the reputation, sunspear, and lightbringer titles. Grind for benefits, although optional, is ftl, at least in Guild Wars. I'd also say legendary defender of ascalon, because of the way you have to obtain it. They should have at least made it possible to get by actually killing monsters, or quests.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:21 - 9

hero, then i might be able to get a match or two ;_________;

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

04 Jul 2008 at 02:22 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And I hate hard mode with a passion, which is why those were included. I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard."

You want HM to be easier? You DEFINITELY don't use Ursan, Imbagon, Sabway, etc.

KoleAurow 23

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:23 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Reasons:
Zaishen and Hero=The emote, it bugs the crap to see people spamming them thinking they are gods in the game.

You cant spam these...lol

Anyways, like people said before...Norn is probably the only one I would tweak/remove...Ursan takes away from peoples creative-ness, lol. I mean Sometimes you get those nubs that once they get Ursan no other build really exists. (i.e an old friend of mine) lol...

Keep the title, tweak the skill...

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

04 Jul 2008 at 02:28 - 12

All titles except Champ.
maybe keep HM ones: guardian and vanquishing. and maybe also keep cartographer. PERHAPS gladiator.

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:33 - 13

All of them. Even though I was ecstatic when I saw that first picture of the monk with all the titles (you know, the 1,000+ missions protector title

), and the game probably wouldn't have survived without titles, I wish it could be like it was before factions. Imo, PvP and PvE were both a lot better before factions. New prof/skills/grind kind of ruined them after a while. I miss the days when my guild did 5 man SF and 55/SS UW every day (nowadays most guilds I've seen just grind out titles/ursan everything to death). Oh well, GW probably would have lost way more players if there wasn't so much grind.

PS: Hard mode just made monsters have more health/energy/speed. Imo they should have just had better AI, balanced mobs, and random skill bars (I know it's harder than it sounds).

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:34 - 14

Remove this link with titles to PvE-only skills.

Make an attribute called "PvE Mastery" or something (that's probably not a good name but whatever). Have points in this attribute line scale with PvE skills.

Leave all the titles and whatever there, I could give a damn less about them.

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:41 - 15

Remove all PvP useless ones. Hero, Champion and Zaishen, for the most part. They're not achievable (sp?) but people think they're someone with their rank 9. The rank discrimination there is just... Yeah, high.

Catrion-Leyt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

In this remote place called hell.

Archons Ascendant [Arch]

R/E

04 Jul 2008 at 02:47 - 16

I'm not sure. I don't care about titles, personally, and if people want to go for them, that's their choice. It's a waste of time, in my opinion, but I'm playing a video game, right?

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:48 - 17

Any of the GW:EN titles
Kurzick/luxon
Sunspear/lightbringer
LDoA( in it's current state)

Probably a few more, just the ones i thought of offhand.

Evil_Necro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

川崎区、日本

currently guildless..

Rt/

04 Jul 2008 at 02:49 - 18

Disclaimer: NOT judging ppl w/ zaishen titles ^^ just answering the OP :0

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Zaishen... D'OH hands down ^^

I mean its a title w/ nice bonus but.. no reason really...

just my thought >.>

Teh [prefession]-zorz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

wisconsin

Spiders Lair Kurz [SpL]

W/A

04 Jul 2008 at 02:49 - 19

All of them.

but LDoA.

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

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04 Jul 2008 at 02:54 - 20

I say none. If we didn't have them, what would we all have being doing for the last 6 months to a year? People keep going on about the grind and money sink, who said you HAVE to get them? You CHOOSE to grind them out to have them.

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

04 Jul 2008 at 02:57 - 21

Dont care for any of the PvE titles or the zaishen one. Without Hero or Gladiator title tracks, HA and TA would have dried up LONG ago. Champion is unnecessary in that people will always GvG and will never need the benefits of a title for it. People GvG for the guild, most people HA for the rank.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

W/

04 Jul 2008 at 03:03 - 22

this is a bit off the subject, but i wish treasure hunter and gold ID titles were account based.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 03:04 - 23

Any title tied to PvE skills is bad.

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

04 Jul 2008 at 03:06 - 24

Legendary Survivor seems a bit of a waste, since you have to make a new character to get it :S.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

04 Jul 2008 at 03:17 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And I hate hard mode with a passion, which is why those were included. I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard." Legendary Survivor is such a pain to get and sooo frustrating if you die so close to the title.

It's attitudes like this that ruined guild wars.

theonetheonlybruce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy]

Mo/

04 Jul 2008 at 03:19 - 26

um with out titles this games replay value would go down the hole

RedStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

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04 Jul 2008 at 03:39 - 27

The only problems I have with some titles is that they are too annoying to get...I mean, what were they thinking when they put the max for drunkard at 10 000 minutes ? xD.

Darius the Eternal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

Faith Is My Shield

Me/A

04 Jul 2008 at 03:49 - 28

Bad Titles

Survivor/Legendary Defender of Ascalon - Survivor and LDoA are bad titles because there is a point of no return where you are no longer able to get them.

Lucky/Unlucky - Lucky and Unlucky are bad titles because you can gain points for them while away from keyboard.

Drunkard/Sweet Tooth/Party Animal/Zaishen - These are bad titles because you can buy them. Tying an emote to one of them was even worse.

Decent Titles

Treasure Hunter/Wisdom - Treasure Hunter and Wisdom are good titles but they should be account based.

Good Titles

Hero/Gladiator/Champion/Commander/Gamer - These titles are good because they recognize achievement in PvP and do not have an impact on the game.

Cartographer/Guardian/Protector/Vanguisher/Skill Hunter/Master of the North - These skills are good because they recognize achievement in PvE and do not have an impact on the game. Unlike Treasure Hunter and Widom, I believe that these are rightfully character-based.

Kurzick/Luxon/Sunspear/Lightbringer/Deldrimor/Ebon Vanguard/Norn/Asura - These skills are good because they allow character development in PvE. Although I believe PvE skills should be slightly better than standard skills, some skills are currently too powerful.

Maxed Titles - This title is the big one. It is the one that makes all of the other titles seem more important. This title holds the whole sytem together, so I believe it should stay.

I think I outlined all of the skill but if I missed any I apologize. All of this, of course, is just my humble opinnion.

Wika Sham

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

PA

The Black Parades [?????????]

Mo/Me

04 Jul 2008 at 03:51 - 29

Zrank is terrible, simply because people can buy rank. Hero rank takes skill.

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

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04 Jul 2008 at 04:27 - 30

Personally, all the titles, but Zaishen rank is a big one for me. I wouldn't mind if you couldn't buy keys. Since you can, everyone can just buy it. It's pathetic.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

04 Jul 2008 at 05:01 - 31

Zaishen is poorly implimented.
If it had been awarded whenever you bought keys from an NPC (ie turned in faction or reward points) or was just a way to display total faction earned it would have been a slightly more accurate representation of skill... rather then just PvE farmers buying it

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

04 Jul 2008 at 05:07 - 32

The EoTN reps required to gain armor are annoying at best. For 1 or 2 character s it's not so bad but gosh it's a pain when you want a certain piece of armor but you gotta grind for it on multiple characters. Isn't grinding/buying crafting materials and paying gold enough? That's all you needed with other campaigns. >_>

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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04 Jul 2008 at 05:15 - 33

lol, looks around for like minded players, I wish there were more titles, I don't like grind, please understand, but I love playing the games, I play as usual, maybe when there are double faction or double xx weekend, then I do those stuffs more. other wise i still am playing and enjoying the game until I get the title. so it doesn't feel like grind to me and it is very nice after a long time playing, that you get a "title" for all the things you've been doing in the game.

but there's one title I won't do lol Legendary Defender of Ascalon, because its not "playing" the game any more in my humble opinion.

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

04 Jul 2008 at 05:31 - 34

I don't have problem with any title. I do however have a problem with any in game effect attached to their progress.

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

04 Jul 2008 at 05:34 - 35

All of them. The game was better before titles. I'm still holding out a faint hope there won't be a title system in GW2, but it doesn't seem likely. Yay grind! Yay watching people do the same crap over and over and over again to make purple bars go up! Yay watching people turn parties into a title-grabbing, money-making event! Yay PvE rank discrimination! Yaaaay, titles are so awesome!

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

04 Jul 2008 at 05:43 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoleAurow 23

You cant spam these...lol

You can spam /rank and /zrank, you just have to wait 30 seconds before you can. It's still spamming when you /rank someone constantly every 30 seconds for god knows how long. So they are very much spammable, there is just a limit to how fast you can spam them.

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

04 Jul 2008 at 06:34 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

And I hate hard mode with a passion, which is why those were included. I wish if they have to have hard mode they'd make it not so "hard."

Heroes win 90% of hard mode on autopilot without your help... how is that hard?

Fay Legion [iMud]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

iMud

R/

04 Jul 2008 at 06:39 - 38

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is everyones problem? Titles are there for your own fulfillment, if someone maxes a title that means they took the time to do something. People are just pissy because they don't want to take the time to do something. And I don't give a shit if it is doing something over and over, people who are willing to sacrifice time to do something should get some credit.

And everyone please stop trying to act like Mr.Badass say "No title matters" Those people just piss me off because honestly what do they do in this game? Almost everything contributes to a title.

People who say titles are worthless are just mad because they don't want to take the time to do something. They are upset about something they are to lazy to do. Everyone complains about LDoA because it takes so long, well stfu and stop complaining because there are some people who take the time to do it.

Hero title lame? Well stop complaining because you are to lazy to atleast try for the emote. I think the emote is a good idea. It encourages people to try HA and possibly you get someone like me, who starts HA and doesn't just want to farm fame. I do want to get the emote but I also just like playing.

Please close this thread, this is a complainers heaven and the Guild Wars community has enough of those.

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

04 Jul 2008 at 06:41 - 39

Any title that has an impact on gameplay (Faction titles, rank titles etc) shouldn't be here.
It's fine (and fair) for somebody who has gained X amount of Sunspear faction to be able to display that fact. Not fair for their skills to be more effective.

Tha Dukk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

[HoV]

E/

04 Jul 2008 at 06:47 - 40

All PvE titles.. you know, Anet used to be against farming. They used to discourage it. Now... they are altering skills for people to farm with.