Titles you wish didn't exist

I have to agree with many people here by simply saying, if you don't want it then don't go for it. I personally enjoy the titles but we could do without some of them.
Mainly for Me
*Drunkard
*Sweet Tooth
*Party Animal
Reason: As Azazel said, they can all be achieved by simply clicking a few things; waste of time.

I agree with the Norn. Hate it.

None. Everyone has the option to get their own titles. If they spend the time to get them, that's their choice. if they bought the titles...oh well. Doesn't affect me either way.

so much crying on this board lately.

Zaishen. o hay i wasted all mai moneyz on a stupid spear emote.
Rest are okay.

Norn, because it killed all creativity in pve for majority of player base.

And can I say Legendary Suicidal AFK'ing Maniac of Ascalon?

Thanks for that comment! It's nice to know SOMEONE on these boards can be civil.

As was said, Jesus people I only posted my opinion. I'm not saying remove all titles that I hate just because they suck. Sure some could be changed, but they don't have to be removed. I'm simply inquiring what people thought shouldn't exist, not what should be removed. It helps to read before posting your flames...

I'm well aware that titles are a choice, but like I said, I'm only asking which ones people thought shouldn't exist and didn't like, I'm not asking ANET to remove them. God...If you want to go for a title, go nuts. But I'm sure some people have gotten titles that they wish would have been less grind-based to achieve. Fine, reword the post to "titles you hate or wish were changed" if you want, but don't flame me for posting an opinion.

Back on topic, I agree with a lot of people that titles should not determine a skill's effectiveness. And the Survivor title should be changed so that if you die it doesn't mean you automatically fail.

And I'm sick of people calling me a noob and all that other shit. I'm sorry, maybe I'm not as "leet" as you. Or maybe it's because I have a life outside of Guild Wars and don't sit on my ass on it all day bragging about how "good" I am and gloating at people who aren't as good as me. Take that into consideration and stop flaming to get a +1 post count.

I like how you include zaishen as a PvP title. Sure, maybe that's what they wanted it as...but there's a big difference between ideal and reality.

Carebears are not civil, they are stupid.

You may want to re-read this, and realise why many are bashing you. It has nothing to do with what you think we're bashing you over.

KURZICK / LUXON

y? total waste of time for such a small reward, way more repetitive n time consuming compared to all other titles.
i c many ppl complaining bout $$ titles like drunkard, sweet tooth, party animal.. but im sure they'll rather max these $$ titles over Kurz/Luxon if they had a choice.

Gamer title kinda sucks, cos its not always avail.. Zaishen titles is cool but i really think they made it bit too hard.. like they did with Kurz/Luxon at the start..

Really some people are just rude.

"REMOVE PVP TITLES PLZZZ COZ I DONT PLAY PVP SO IT SUCKS TY"

Tender Wolf Leading the pack as always /rolleyes

I've never seen such a retarded post.

So because you arent good enough/dont like one part of the game, you think nobody else should be able to show off their achievements in that portion of the game? Utter rubbish.

None of the titles should be removed, the only one that should be reworked a little IMO is gamer, because you can only get points towards it a few weekends during the year, while at least with lucky you can still run lpicks. Maybe some arena to get gamer points during the rest of the year or something?

Zaishen, just another gold sink title.

High end players need Gold Sink titles to spend money on.

I forgot about the Zaishen title too. All the whiny PvE Scrubs with little Faction and PvP skills now have an Emote at least.

yes gladiator, a title from RA/TA
go to TA and try finding a team
they're all asking for a specific rank in the title or you get booted out the team
no rank, no team
with this new players can't build a title up for their own
i can't get a gladiator title cuz i can't get a team

I dislike it more because now RA/TA aren't "just for fun" anymore. You don't need to have everything give a reward just to get people to play it.

Even though I have been progressing my glad title I wish it didn't exist because I think it's the reason you see so much ****way farming with boring OP builds in TA (much like HA that has always had a title per se) and the same curses necs farming noobs in RA day in day out. PvE titles are a nice idea, even the ones you can buy but I think most would agree PvP titles have accelerated awful trends in all formats.

I hate pvp ones cus of rank discrimination and that arenas are no longer played for any fun or even fun at all, most players are just rank boosting now or earning thier z-keys.... pvp without rewards would be alot better imo ^^.

Pve titles... meh gives people somthing to do and i cant really argue with that

Didn't exist? Aside for the ones which cause rank discrimination (Mainly in PVP, though I guess norn/LB does too in PVE to a degree)
I mean, if I don't like them, I don't have to go for them.

Now the ones I think aren't implemented well, are silly, or I can find no-enjoyment in getting (and probably will never get some of these) are:
Zrank: Having the Zchest is fine, as it gives PVP players a place to use the factions, but... was there really a need to add a title/emote for that?
Drunk/Sweet/Party: Considering there's inherent benefits from sweets, and alcohol/party has a fun visual effect... there really wasn't a need for the titles.. not to mention with party, I find it silly to have an title where items needed for it are available at only one dungeon aside for during events.
Gamer: A reward for participating in events is a good idea to have people participate during events... but at least make it more achievable considering how short games are open... or have games that would be open outside of events (rotate them maybe?)
Cartographer: Achievement for exploration is good but not the current way its implemented.... I really don't think hugging the walls on every map, not to mention the repeated minutes of 'wiggling' around in hopes of clearing the fog of an area, or even using glitch/trick methods of accessing inaccessible areas in Tyria is really something to be proud of. I think it should have been implemented like the mapping quests in faction, so an area is considered 'fully explored' once certain preset points on the map have been explored.
Vanquisher: Personally, I don't find having to run around the map for hours looking for the last patrolling mob is that fun. I'd prefer that the counter counted down instead of up just so at the very least we'd know how many enemies are left to kill... and while I'd prefer some sort of radar pinging of enemies when you're down to less than ~5% of enemies left.. that would probably get messy on some maps....
LDoA: I never really understood why this title was implemented. Sure it was ingenious of the people who figured out a way to achieve lvl20 in pre, and I respect them for coming up with a way to do what wasn't meant to be.... but a title that's the equivalent of saying 'I died while afk'n a lot in pre'.... is that something really to be proud of?
Survivor: For an online game, I really don't feel it is a good idea to have any titles that can be permanently lost due to uncontrollable factors such as lag. Not to mention that people who go for this title 'normally' aren't really people who you'd want to party with, and people who don't go for this title 'normally' kinda defeat the purpose of this title. (Yes I kilroy'd my way to LS on my para too, but I'm not exactly proud of that, did it just to have it in my HoM.. and didn't really enjoy doing it either)
Sunspear: TBH, aside for forcing some of my characters to go out and aimlessly wipe entire maps of enemies repeatedly in NM just so I can continue on with the primary quest.... I can really see no purpose in this title.. It doesn't really show any form of achievement as its not tied to the completion any particular set of missions/quests/areas... etc
Eotn/Factions titles: Setting aside the question of whether having PvE skills tied to titles is a good thing, I really think these titles should be tied to a combination of finishing all quests/vanquishing or exploring all areas of said 'faction' instead of being a silly 'repeat killing monsters' type title. At least that way it'd mean something, rather than being a generic grind.....
LB: The LB bonus is great to have against the enemies... but, it makes me wonder if they should've just made the respective enemies more reasonable instead of needing to give people bonuses, and I'd rather it'd be tied to quests/areas like the other faction titles
PvP titles: Since I don't really play PvP I can't really say for sure, but does it really make PvP better to have titles to grind for? I'd think it'd be a better environment if PvP was actually so fun that people would keep playing it without titles to grind for, not to mention that there would be less... elitism and insults flying around when people lose games....

Just my 2cents

Quoted for truth, I wish HM was about better enemy strategies, instead of monsters on consets

I don't like (and not interested in getting) these titles:

- LDoA
- Drunkard
- Lucky/Unlucky

what he said! :0:

/Signed. 12345

Lol, so funny. What type of survivor gets killed?

Asura
Norn
Deldrimor
Luxon
Kurzick
Sunspear
Lightbringer

Basically anything that provides you additional power when playing the game based on your rank. One of the worst ideas that A-Net came up with, and started the decline of focus on skill versus time spent.

All of the others...meh. If you want to blow your money/time on them, more power to you. I don't even mind the very small benefits of some of them (e.g. Treasure Hunter, Lucky, Wisdom).

When the Survivor title first came out, many people mistook it as being "reach X amount of EXP without dying". Many didn't realize that even a single death voided the title.

Agree with this one.

Hmm...
Makes you wonder why the next expansion 'Utopia' was trashed...and title grind wars (EOTN) was put in place instead?
An experiment gone wrong?
A marketing move gone bad?
Maybe ANet does need a more 'hands on' approach to players expectations, before they set game killing ideas into action?

Personally, I don't care either way.

Titles have absolutely no bearing on the way I play.

I too used to feel that way.
Then I went back to my old stomping grounds in DOA.
And UW/FoW/ect.
Even tho I have a proven track record for killing Mallyx, and completing the the rooms required..I am not a blessings abuser.
I only used blessing(s) during the missions requiring them.
Same for LB/ect.
So, being as I just 'want to play the game'...
Titles, (and the discrimination of) effects my game play.
Titles should stay where they are to be used for mission requirements...eotn...NF...ect.

ok I haven't read all ten pages of this thread because A: I have a life and B: I can not be bothered.

but things I wish Didn't exist in guild wars or that are associated with Guild Wars

1. The idiot who came up with the idea of nerfing the permasin

2. Minipets (their a waste of money and add nothing to the game)

3. The quest that forces you to get 10,000 kurzick faction before you can progress.

As for the titles I like them it gives you something to aim at.

I understand why a lot of people posting in this thread dislike the titles that are tied to pve skills and other titles that promote discrimination for teamplay.

Fortunately for myself, if I do decide to play with others, it's either friends or guildies, and they do not discriminate based on [insert title here] rank.

Nothing really has any bearing on the way the way anyone plays: Exploits, farming, botters, hackers, etc.

I also belong to such a guild..(And alliance too!)
BUT..many are away for the summer, moving to different parts of the country...real life issues..ect.
Back before blessings, and title abuse..one could simply ping their bar..and take a competent PuG (gasp..I said that?)
Because, let's face it..ELITE areas were just that..and most of the players there actually had a vague idea of what to expect..and counter the hurdles.(WITHOUT blessings)
That option (for myself anyhow) is not available for a few more months..

Titles doesn't really bother me that much in the first place, they are just like a checklist to follow when u have nothin' else to do, following title are just waste of time: Lightbringer, Sunspear (these two i've personally done it and i don't want to do it again cause its nothin' but pure grinding) Asura Deldrimor, Ebon Vanguard, Norn, Treasure Hunter, Wisdom (this title is one the point less titles of all, it serve no absolute purpose at all)

uhm, Glad, champion, commander, hero gives ya "somekind" of power aswell ^^ as you get faction cap you aswell get better teams etc

You can't really contribute if you're not reading replies/discussion, but that's cool, because you can't be bothered. Oh, right.

You're an idiot. Because invincibility in a game is always good, right? Because completely bypassing the requirements for skill are awesome, right? Not to mention that this community was clamoring for its nerf. It took ectos from their relatively stable (albeit low) price of 5k to their current price of ~3k. NICE WORK. CHEERIO, MATE. BACK INTO THE TRENCHES YOU GO.

The titles, for the most part, are soul draining, time consuming endeavours that suck you of any desire you have to play the game. Guardian is nice for a challenge, and the buyable ones are sort of cute, but Vanquisher/Reputation are straight forward grind.

Very few are compulsary (and even the ones that are are only to a very low level).
You don't have to do them so I don't see why anyone would think them "soul draining" or any such thing. It's your choice to do them.

~A Leprechaun~

An increase in the ancillary rewards that relate to titles doesn't bother me as much. So, you can store more faction, get a slight improvement to retaining lockpicks/salvaged items, etc...those don't directly impact how effectively I can kill stuff and complete PvE areas.

Regarding the better teams by having PvP titles, it's rather easy to form a group with guild/alliance mates if you're experiencing rank discrimination...those are likely the best sources of your most effective PvP experiences, anyways. But to each his own - I understand why these titles are maligned by many in the community.

Can I say my picks?

1. Norn, because I seriously hate norn as a whole! I hope they will make them a bit less stuck up in GW2

2. Zaishen, I like the idea of a Zaishen faction title, but it is kinda pointless without skills linked to it (I am NOT saying we need more PvE skills, ANEt has proved they cant make interesting ones), plus I can't stand the emote.

3. _________ hero (HA title), because I dont like the name (as pointless a reason as that. yeah, I know. Did we need to have valid arguments?)

4. Kind of a Big Deal, because it pushed some people to get max title for the sake of maxing them

And my personnal favorites :

Sweet tooth/dunken/Party , because on an appropriately themed char it just look cool, too bad some people go for it just for another maxed title.

Gamer , what can I say? cool looking, getting it is fun, only obtainable at certain time...

carthographer , because seeing all (ALL) of the 3 games is good

Luxon/Kurzick, because Luxon are cool? because AB is fun (what ever some people will think)


EDIT : forgot about Life of the Party and explorer tracks

EOTN titles - All of them. My reasons are not really needed. All of them are a grind fest and ursan just kills brain cells. It really does.

But the titles that you have to buy I truly couldn't care about them. If you do them right and not be a lamer and use the zone glitching for the drunkard good for you.


Allegiance faction (kurz/lux) - Fine the way they are imo. You have the quick get it this way, and the more fun have fun to get it way.

PvP titles (glad,hero and etc) - Whatever the faction cap increase is well worth the time you spent.

Zaishen - all you idiots who bought your spear stop /zrank'ing people in a noob PvE town. Showing your e-peen is just retarded. This title is fine if you actually earn it just people need to stop spamming it on recharge.


As for getting into groups with a title rank. I like groups that form in the vent server I hang out in. I don't have the patience to heal idiots for ursan or the patience to grind my warrior to r10 norn.