Update - 21 August 2008
Skill Updates
PvE and PvP
Elementalist
• Glimmering Mark: increased damage to 10..30.
• Glowing Ice: Energy gain reduced to 2..9.
• Icy Shackles: snare duration reduced to 1..10 seconds.
Ranger
• Disrupting Lunge: recharge time increased to 20 seconds.
PvP
Monk
• Smiter’s Boon: recharge time increased to 90 seconds, Energy cost increased to 25, duration reduced to 5 seconds.
AI Updates
• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to sometimes attack enemy targets from too far away.
• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to improve their ability to recognize when their leader is fleeing from combat.
• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to occasionally become confused and run in circles.
http://eu.guildwars.com/support/arti...1_august_2008/
Update 21st August 08
C. Seer
FoxBat
Smiters Boon -> WHAT?
I know Izzy likes to sometimes overnerf to remove something temporarilly or permanently from the meta, but this is just overboard. Hopefully a sign that it's just a temporary MAT adjustment.
I know Izzy likes to sometimes overnerf to remove something temporarilly or permanently from the meta, but this is just overboard. Hopefully a sign that it's just a temporary MAT adjustment.
sixofone
This hasn't hit in the U.S., yet. (Not posted on the official GW page.)
If its for real, they're still tweaking Glimmering Mark, aren't they? lol
And I love the part about "• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to occasionally become confused and run in circles." It was funny to see them do that, even when it sucked because you needed them to do something.
If they really fixed the AI, then great!
If its for real, they're still tweaking Glimmering Mark, aren't they? lol
And I love the part about "• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to occasionally become confused and run in circles." It was funny to see them do that, even when it sucked because you needed them to do something.
If they really fixed the AI, then great!
fenix
Hahaha Smiter's Boon got RUINED. Nice work Izzy.
Dr Strangelove
WTF smiter's boon?
Shadowhaze
Yay, hero AI fixes!
"Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to occasionally become confused and run in circles"
That part actually made me kinda laugh. Not sure if it was the way it was said or maybe it's because I'm tired, but still...lol.
"Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to fix an issue that caused them to occasionally become confused and run in circles"
That part actually made me kinda laugh. Not sure if it was the way it was said or maybe it's because I'm tired, but still...lol.
fenix
Izzy said he wanted Smiter's Boon out of the game.
Now it is.
Now it is.
Kerwyn Nasilan
Man that smiters boon nerf is just overboard, it's hilarious.
Shuuda
I love it! I love it! I want to marry that nerf.
Orange Milk
Smiters Boon GTFO LMAO HAHAHAHAHA
I hope that's real there, I just may return to TA if that's true.
OH NOES Hero Smite GvG teams and triple Smite RaO TAers are dead, what a shame. At least I'll be able to stop killing kittens for a while, you see I kill a kitten everytime someone runs a OP gimmick and thinks they are "leet" been going through ALOT of kittens as of late.
I hope that's real there, I just may return to TA if that's true.
OH NOES Hero Smite GvG teams and triple Smite RaO TAers are dead, what a shame. At least I'll be able to stop killing kittens for a while, you see I kill a kitten everytime someone runs a OP gimmick and thinks they are "leet" been going through ALOT of kittens as of late.
Trub
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• Updated the AI for Heroes and henchmen to improve their ability to recognize when their leader is fleeing from combat. |
I was getting tired of Koss dragging the mobs back into the casters..
N1ghtstalker
is this a joke?
i can't find anything on the wiki or website and seriously... this skillbalance = epic fail
instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. [wastrel's collapse]
oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it
but seriously
anet, listen to the players, fix skills that need it
ty
i can't find anything on the wiki or website and seriously... this skillbalance = epic fail
instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. [wastrel's collapse]
oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it
but seriously
anet, listen to the players, fix skills that need it
ty
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by fenix
Izzy said he wanted Smiter's Boon out of the game.
Now it is. |
Horus
this smiter's boon nerf must be a joke 
fenix
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
is this a joke?
i can't find anything on the wiki or website and seriously... this skillbalance = epic fail instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. [wastrel's collapse] oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it but seriously anet, listen to the players, fix skills that need it ty |
slowerpoke
lawl
wtb good skill balancer
wtb good skill balancer
Shuuda
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| instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. |
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| OH NOES Hero Smite GvG teams and triple Smite RaO TAers are dead, what a shame. At least I'll be able to stop killing kittens for a while, you see I kill a kitten everytime someone runs a OP gimmick and thinks they are "leet" been going through ALOT of kittens as of late. |
zelgadissan
Well done, Izzy. Just lol'd ridiculously hard at work and now I'm gonna get bitched at. DAMN YOU IZZY!!!
Seriously, although I love this Smiter's Boon nerf, how about some other skills, such as Wastrel's Collapse as just suggested? So much more that can be done here.
BTW I'm a little removed from TA/HA these days, so I'll ask here: why reduce Glowing Ice and none of the other energy gaining skills? Perma-snares?
Second edit: NVM, answered my own question. Me/E snares need the energy. Ignore
Seriously, although I love this Smiter's Boon nerf, how about some other skills, such as Wastrel's Collapse as just suggested? So much more that can be done here.
BTW I'm a little removed from TA/HA these days, so I'll ask here: why reduce Glowing Ice and none of the other energy gaining skills? Perma-snares?
Second edit: NVM, answered my own question. Me/E snares need the energy. Ignore
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by fenix
This isn't meant to be a major update. Those are every month. This is just a few small fixes.
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it
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clarke
WTF smiters boon got owned O.o
Why the extra recharge on disrupting lunge? its alrdy linked to a bm n is harder to use than dshot =S
Why the extra recharge on disrupting lunge? its alrdy linked to a bm n is harder to use than dshot =S
sixofone
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Originally Posted by Trub
THAT makes me very happy.
I was getting tired of Koss dragging the mobs back into the casters.. |
Kusandaa
Wow. There's nerf and there's "raped to oblivion". 90 seconds recharge for a 5-second, 25e spell. WTF.
Thank heavens for the hero update. Let's see how effective they are now.
Thank heavens for the hero update. Let's see how effective they are now
HackingHippie712
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
is this a joke?
i can't find anything on the wiki or website and seriously... this skillbalance = epic fail instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. [wastrel's collapse] oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it but seriously anet, listen to the players, fix skills that need it ty |
anyway on topic
good izzy, good....now, just fix GvG...
Sarevok Thordin
someone at Anet is playing a prank.
And I'm loling.
And I'm loling.
HackingHippie712
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Wow. There's nerf and there's "raped to oblivion". 90 seconds recharge for a 5-second, 25e spell. WTF.
Thank heavens for the hero update. Let's see how effective they are now |
actually i think the guy from the "impossible mario" vids on youtube said it best
"thats like getting ass raped by a big t-rex d**k, a big ole t-rex came from the past in a time machine and took you down a peg"
<3 that guy, its like if christopher walken and borat had a child
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by clarke
WTF smiters boon got owned O.o
Why the extra recharge on disrupting lunge? its alrdy linked to a bm n is harder to use than dshot =S |
keli
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
is this a joke?
i can't find anything on the wiki or website and seriously... this skillbalance = epic fail instead of ruining skills he should listen to the players and do something about skills that seriously need some buffing e.g. [wastrel's collapse] oh my heroes ain't gonna run in circles anymore? good cuz my dunkoro took 20 times the try to remove a hex from me cuz he constantly aborted his own spell with it but seriously anet, listen to the players, fix skills that need it ty |
FoxBat
The irony is that Lunge is the weakest skill on the bar, but I guess he wants to preserve the other two interrupts for warriors.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by keli
Too bad we got a huge elite buff 2 weeks agos
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Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by C. Seer
Update - 21 August 2008
Skill Updates PvP Monk • Smiter’s Boon: recharge time increased to 90 seconds, Energy cost increased to 25, duration reduced to 5 seconds. |
Clearly Izzy needs to put up a post on his talk page:
"Hi. I am not even bothering to try to make reasoned updates any more. If I dislike what a skill does to the meta, I shall no longer swing a nerf bat and try to leave you with a playable skill that is not overpowered. Instead, I will simply facestomp it to the point where even an Ascalon City guild wouldn't be caught dead with that skill on their bars.
Thank you."
I approve of the nerf in principle, but that has to be the sorriest "rebalance" in the history of Guild Wars. I think that is actually worse than the nerf on Prot Bond.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
RaO rangers like to run [disrupting chop][agonizing chop][disrupting lunge] in TA. It's like being bukkaked with interrupts.
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Molock
If this is for real... YES!! Finally smiter's boon is dead, 3 smiter teams in TA are dead. Awesome.
C. Seer
Its on the European website, i did check the wiki and US sites as well but didn't see anything there so just guess it is due to time zones.
No joke i hope
No joke i hope
Taurucis
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
Nearly choked on my sandwich from that last line. Now I'm gonna ROFL everytime I see a RaO.
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I've tried running builds like that before, it's like throwing random loads of interrupts at people... it's nearly impossible to interrupt anything unless you're really lucky.
Molock
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Originally Posted by Lynx Of Ithorian
it has to be a joke ... I agree it needed balancing , but this is like they just had a lottery drawing straws ..
what you get dave ? ' 90 second recharge ' steve ? ' 25 energy cast ' Izzy ? ' 15 second duration , but lets make it 5 seconds I think thats still overpowered ' Izzy couldnt balance a scale nevermind a game , what an idiot .... |
Songbringer
I am sorry but Izzy we all know you don't like smiting. However you should be nerfing for the sense of balance. WTF SMITERS BOON ARE YOU RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING KIDDING. Now that I have that out of my system. I don't play the meta with smiter's boon(since I don't ha and gvg anymore) but thats ridiculous. That is no a balance from the orginal skill. I am sorry I don't care how overpowered it was that is ridiculous. Stop nerfing with your stupid bias ass feelings and start nerfing for balance.
sixofone
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Originally Posted by Molock
It was severely overpowered, it deserved to die like this and we should be happy he hasn't waited any longer to destroy it.
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Vazze
smiters boon is funny lol, but update is not online...yet
Abedeus
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Monk • Smiter’s Boon: recharge time increased to 90 seconds, Energy cost increased to 25, duration reduced to 5 seconds. |
This is a joke, right? Please tell me. The only way they could POSSIBLY nerf it even further is adding exhaustion -.-