Update 21st August 08
lord of all tyria
Could be just nuking it for the mAT, then do an actual balance in their new monthly update.
Ate of DK
I see ghosts...
This must be the update that covers the R15 emote that should still be added to the game!?
Haha.
Someone should check the .DAT after the update and post it here. XD
This must be the update that covers the R15 emote that should still be added to the game!?
Haha.
Someone should check the .DAT after the update and post it here. XD
Sniper22
Okay, seeing as this update is not in the game yet, this update is just some lame joke.
Aera Lure
Anet needs to learn to balance hopefully before GW2 comes out. Clearly they know how to nerf and buff, but they lack subtlety and too many skills fall into oblivion or rise to overuse.
Monk Gsb
/care for me. i only use smiters boon in pve
Snow Bunny
Hahahahaha smiters
Smiteway just got jackhammered by a Clydesdale in a Tijuana gutter
Excellent work Izzy, I appreciate this highly.
Smiteway just got jackhammered by a Clydesdale in a Tijuana gutter
Excellent work Izzy, I appreciate this highly.
jana_the_stranger
still no hero-outta-pvp update ...
Tyla
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Originally Posted by sixofone
Dude, there's balancing something that's OP, and then there's breaking it so no one will use it. (Or,as others have posted, raping the sh*t out of it so no one will touch it.)
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fenix
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Originally Posted by Spider Pig
Anet are just stupid. They either nerf skills and make them not usuable, or buff skills and make them too overpowered. I guess they just don't know what balance means...
Anet, please get a new skill balancer.  |
Nightow
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Originally Posted by fenix
That will probably come in a re-balance update in a day or so, when ANet stop laughing at everyone and decide to make it reasonable
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Turbobusa
I'm starting to wonder if balance = 2w 2mo 1rt 2midline + 1 optional
Because you could just every single skill that isn't considered part of such a build, at least we'd know the fun is gone.
I just don't think this is an actual update. I seriously hope not. Smiter's boon was bad because 3/4 people ran it in 4v4 format or 4-5/8 in 8v8 format.
Smiter's boon on its own isn't completly OP. Strong yes, OP, stop overreacting.
Because you could just every single skill that isn't considered part of such a build, at least we'd know the fun is gone.
I just don't think this is an actual update. I seriously hope not. Smiter's boon was bad because 3/4 people ran it in 4v4 format or 4-5/8 in 8v8 format.
Smiter's boon on its own isn't completly OP. Strong yes, OP, stop overreacting.
Snow Bunny
Speaking of the smiteway nerf - Disrupting Lunge. 20 seconds is pretty niceeeeeee
This nerf also came much quicker then usual. Bravo!
This nerf also came much quicker then usual. Bravo!
Age
Smiters Boon +Devine Boon = dead skills.I am glad I didn't buy it although I don't understand the minute and half recharge?
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Age
I don't understand the minute and half recharge?
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Trylo
if this is real:
love the disrupting nerf. that skill is just one of those things like the ghostly dshotting RC: uncalled for, and slightly uinfair.
if running in circles means they wont do that cancel action bug (i strongly believe it was linked to signet use) maybe i can start doing HB again, but my icy shackles snare build wont work anymore -_-.
love the disrupting nerf. that skill is just one of those things like the ghostly dshotting RC: uncalled for, and slightly uinfair.
if running in circles means they wont do that cancel action bug (i strongly believe it was linked to signet use) maybe i can start doing HB again, but my icy shackles snare build wont work anymore -_-.
SpiritThief
They need to replace everyone who "trying" to balance the skills. And also have them look up the word "balance".
I still can't understand why they did that to [vow of strength]. Guess by end of year the plan is to make everything but the fewest builds they can, playable anymore.
I still can't understand why they did that to [vow of strength]. Guess by end of year the plan is to make everything but the fewest builds they can, playable anymore.
payne
AI update = good
NOW A-net sort the crap AI out on hench healing through degen hexes - just me or do hench refuse to heal you if you are dying from degen and will just let you die? sort it out FFS -
NOW A-net sort the crap AI out on hench healing through degen hexes - just me or do hench refuse to heal you if you are dying from degen and will just let you die? sort it out FFS -
Runes2713
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Izzy is using Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support on Smiter's Boon.
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I like some of the ideas for a BALANCED update. Leave it as is, but change it to last 1/2 the recharge time. That way it becomes a useable skill, but still not crazy OP like it was. That way, it somewhat dampens the smite monk's e-management and also largely reduces the healing they can put out.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Who's going to use a skill that has a 90 second recharge and costs 25e on a monk?
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The best thing is I, and 3 other people can still blow AB up with dual AoE Smiters!!51243121252121212512121215212
Snow Bunny
For all of you saying the Disrupting and Smiter's boon nerfs are stupid, so when you're chasing me around with 25% IAS+25% IMS with your pet, spaming [disrupting chop][agonizing chop][dismember][disrupting lunge], and having all damage on you smited off by Tahlkora and Dunkoro, try monking against that
pigdestroyer
thanks for the nerf to smiters boon.
Squishy ftw
olol, killed. About time tho. Excellent move on this one.
Bowstring Badass
Did they leak the update to Europe again? lol
JupiterStarWarrior
I don't understand why people have to be insulting to someone trying to do his job. It makes those people look like assess.
As for the update, the American site doesn't show the update yet, so I'm assuming it hasn't even hit live yet. I've recently logged on to see if it was live, but it isn't. So, the update may not even be official yet. The Smiter's Boon update (which, by the way, will certainly be useless in PvP if this update goes through--I don't PvE much, and I can see that) is only for PvP if I remember correctly, but it may not even be that way when the update goes live.
I'd love to see the Developer's Updates when the update does go live...
But seriously, stop with the insulting the developers, please. It makes you look like an ass.
As for the update, the American site doesn't show the update yet, so I'm assuming it hasn't even hit live yet. I've recently logged on to see if it was live, but it isn't. So, the update may not even be official yet. The Smiter's Boon update (which, by the way, will certainly be useless in PvP if this update goes through--I don't PvE much, and I can see that) is only for PvP if I remember correctly, but it may not even be that way when the update goes live.
I'd love to see the Developer's Updates when the update does go live...
But seriously, stop with the insulting the developers, please. It makes you look like an ass.
The Red Messenger
for 25 energy, 90 second recharge, and 5 second duration, a monk skill should read llike this:
All allies in the area near enchanted ally gain 5..10 health and energy regeneration. Any damage dealt to these players during this time is prevented. When this enchantment ends, all damage prevented during this time is redirected to its source(s).
sort of a smiter's meteor shower if you will
All allies in the area near enchanted ally gain 5..10 health and energy regeneration. Any damage dealt to these players during this time is prevented. When this enchantment ends, all damage prevented during this time is redirected to its source(s).
sort of a smiter's meteor shower if you will
MStarfire
Izzy is to Smiter's Boon what Russia is to Georgia.
lyra_song
idea:
Smiter's Boon:
For 10 seconds your smiting attributes are increased by 1-5 and your divine favor is set to 0. While under this enchantment, you cannot be targeted by other enchantments.
*shrugs*
Smiter's Boon:
For 10 seconds your smiting attributes are increased by 1-5 and your divine favor is set to 0. While under this enchantment, you cannot be targeted by other enchantments.
*shrugs*
makosi
I'd make Smiter's Boon a maintained enchantment or cause energy-loss upon using a Smiting Prayers spell, just like Divine Boon.
There's nerfing a skill... and then there's nuking a skill with an ICBM.
Anyway, I choose to remain a skeptic until the patch arrives.
There's nerfing a skill... and then there's nuking a skill with an ICBM.
Anyway, I choose to remain a skeptic until the patch arrives.
Tab
wow RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO petsmite nerf i have to be good at gw now
EroChrono
Purely by numbers, Smiter's Boon will be 270 times less effective after this update o_0
Quite an impressive nerf I must say..
Quite an impressive nerf I must say..
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Killing something that's bad for the game is good.
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As I've said before, it's not balance. It's "Okay, we've created something OP'ed. We're simply gonna kill it instead of trying to balance it so it can STILL be used, but NOT OP'ed."
around
Smiter's boon is a skill that deserves to die. No matter what numbers you give to it, or how you tweak it, the only way it can possibly live is if you completely overhaul it.
I mean, it turns things like Reversal of Damage into a 5 energy 90 point heal that prots for up to huge amounts of damage and dishes it back out. How can that possibly be good?
I mean, it turns things like Reversal of Damage into a 5 energy 90 point heal that prots for up to huge amounts of damage and dishes it back out. How can that possibly be good?
Chushingura
Didn't Anet/Regina etc say that updates are only on a monthly basis now since the "monster" update a few weeks ago?
If so, there shouldn't be any updates until September.
Second, it could be the Smiter's Boon nerf is PvP only, if people are whining about it killing GVG RA TA etc. I personally don't care because I never used this skill.
All this is suspect until www.guildwars.com itself has the update.
If so, there shouldn't be any updates until September.
Second, it could be the Smiter's Boon nerf is PvP only, if people are whining about it killing GVG RA TA etc. I personally don't care because I never used this skill.
All this is suspect until www.guildwars.com itself has the update.
makosi
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Originally Posted by around
Smiter's boon is a skill that deserves to die. No matter what numbers you give to it, or how you tweak it, the only way it can possibly live is if you completely overhaul it.
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2 minutes of thought and consideration would be all that was necessary. Mind you, it isn't set in stone yet.
DarkNecrid
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by Ate of DK
I see ghosts...
This must be the update that covers the R15 emote that should still be added to the game!? Haha. Someone should check the .DAT after the update and post it here. XD |
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Abedeus
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Originally Posted by EroChrono
Purely by numbers, Smiter's Boon will be 270 times less effective after this update o_0
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5e 30 dur 10 recharge
6x5x9 = 270. Tru, the BIGGEST nerf GW has ever seen.
How about Exhaustion? It would be 2700 (exhaustion is temporary -10 energy) less effective. Or 6x7x9= 379. But it was no exhaustion before, so it'd be technically worse than just 35 energy.
around
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Originally Posted by makosi
Exactly. Rather than give the skill obscenely bad numbers, re-work the skill and give it a different function instead.
2 minutes of thought and consideration would be all that was necessary. Mind you, it isn't set in stone yet. |
When I say it needs to be overhauled, I mean just that. The new Smiter's Boon would be nothing like the old one, because the underlying mechanic is flawed,
Mosefus
Funny, I just discovered the power of this skill when I was vanquishing with H/H last night. It would be so easy to balance it's crazy.
Reduce healing boost to 33% and increase cost to 10 energy and 1 sec cast time. 3 nerfs should be enough. Not leet anymore and still useful.
Or make it a maintained enchanment or where you lose 1 or 2 energy every time you cast a spell targeting your teamate.
Reduce healing boost to 33% and increase cost to 10 energy and 1 sec cast time. 3 nerfs should be enough. Not leet anymore and still useful.
Or make it a maintained enchanment or where you lose 1 or 2 energy every time you cast a spell targeting your teamate.
Chico
Smiter's Boon went from imbalanced being overpowered to 10*imbalanced being way way way underpowered.
The most (negatively) imba skill so far.
LOL
The most (negatively) imba skill so far.
LOL