Remove Reporting for Language

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:17 - 41
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
If you acted the same way in chat as you just did in your post here I'm not surprised you got banned, only that you got away with 1 week and not more.
Not only are you using vulgarities, you are also abusive. Have you considered angermanigment classes?
Lol too bad you cant /report for being stupid u could have a 1 week ban or more
and i was abusive? does that bring up memories of how your father treated you? Maybe i brought up some family issues for you is that the root of you posting you idiot bullshit here? Now go google up a come back and repost
TY

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:19 - 42
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Originally Posted by IronSheik
omfg /report for good comeback i can't match
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Richardt

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:20 - 43
With profanity, it's an all or nothing sort of enforcement. While there is a chat filter that can be enabled, ANet & NCSoft have a legal right to enforce rules that prohibit such language.

Now while there is a chat filter, it's not perfect. Kids aren't stupid-if they see **** then they can figure out via context what's being blotted. And while I don't think they should be sheltered from profanity, it's more important for them to know when and where it's appropiate to swear (in my mind profanity isn't a right-it's a privalege). A public location (whether IRL or In game) is not such a time or place. Thus we all need to act like mature responsible adults and limit our language to more private locations (guild chat, team chat, vent or TS).

In a perfect world you could trust people to be responsible enough to do this. However, it's not a perfect world. It's riddled with immature jerks and morons. And it's for those people that we have the language clause in the EULA and the report system for abusive language.

So grow up and deal with it.

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:23 - 44
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Originally Posted by Richardt
With profanity, it's an all or nothing sort of enforcement. While there is a chat filter that can be enabled, ANet & NCSoft have a legal right to enforce rules that prohibit such language.

Now while there is a chat filter, it's not perfect. Kids aren't stupid-if they see **** then they can figure out via context what's being blotted. And while I don't think they should be sheltered from profanity, it's more important for them to know when and where it's appropiate to swear (in my mind profanity isn't a right-it's a privalege). A public location (whether IRL or In game) is not such a time or place. Thus we all need to act like mature responsible adults and limit our language to more private locations (guild chat, team chat, vent or TS).

In a perfect world you could trust people to be responsible enough to do this. However, it's not a perfect world. It's riddled with immature jerks and morons. And it's for those people that we have the language clause in the EULA and the report system for abusive language.

So grow up and deal with it.
Yeah, kinda wishful thinking here. Not really expecting a whole change of the system, but I really wish people would take the time to consider if they really want the chat filter off.

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:25 - 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richardt
With profanity, it's an all or nothing sort of enforcement. While there is a chat filter that can be enabled, ANet & NCSoft have a legal right to enforce rules that prohibit such language.

Now while there is a chat filter, it's not perfect. Kids aren't stupid-if they see **** then they can figure out via context what's being blotted. And while I don't think they should be sheltered from profanity, it's more important for them to know when and where it's appropiate to swear (in my mind profanity isn't a right-it's a privalege). A public location (whether IRL or In game) is not such a time or place. Thus we all need to act like mature responsible adults and limit our language to more private locations (guild chat, team chat, vent or TS).

In a perfect world you could trust people to be responsible enough to do this. However, it's not a perfect world. It's riddled with immature jerks and morons. And it's for those people that we have the language clause in the EULA and the report system for abusive language.

So grow up and deal with it.
People who say grow up to people on the internet most likely wear a helmet to bed. Thats like running up to a 6 year old who just called you a cabbage head and yelling "GROW UP!" Most people who play games are immature maybe you should deal with that? Now on to your other crap you spewed outta that retarded head of yours... So every1 should have to control themselves in team chat and all chat to protect the young people of weak of heart from getting offended? Maybe anet should add a filter that makes your chat only seen be people 18+? They don't use the filter properly and ban people for it so maybe they needa stop making stupid pvp nerfs like Smiter's boon (go look it up) and deal with some of this crap?

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:37 - 46
There is a language filter.

Reporting someone for bad language (Not having the filter on) only shows how egoistic and egocentric you are, and how you only care about you and not other people.

Anet shouldn't promote this behavour, and stop banning people for bad language... In real life, yeah, you have no filter. If someone says the "N" word, there is no magical filter that turns it into some kind of beautifull singing, so yeah, people should get punished for that.

But when there is a filter for the really conservative people, WHY the hell do they still ban people for language. Why not remove the filter alltogether then?

This is Anet's fault, as they are giving out a wrong signal. By having the filter, they show it is a mature game, but yet that protects it's younger community.
The filter says to the community: "Fcuk, Siht, ..." are part of slang (chat), and for the people who take offence to this, we have a solution.

THEN WHY THE FCUK DO YOU BAN PEOPLE FOR OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE?

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:50 - 47
The EULA (Rules) are there for a reason, if you break them that's your prerogative but at least be man/women enough to take the consequences of your actions.

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:52 - 48
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
The EULA (Rules) are there for a reason, if you break them that's your prerogative but at least be man/women enough to take the consequences of your actions.
The Chat filter is there for a reason, if you leave it off, and report people when you QQ for them cursing at you, TURN IT ON

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:55 - 49
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Sigh, another moron who can't use the English language properly got his bottom slapped, and now comes here for some comfort.

/not signed
Come send me a pm citing this word, a proper one at that. Wish you luck in your ban. Better yet, use it in context that relates to anything but the more modern slang variant and I'll still get ya banned.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faggot

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22 Aug 2008 at 05:59 - 50
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I'm so sick of this. I'm 18,
ie: young and stupid and think they have stupid rights.

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I have a right to free speech.
In America.

I know this might come as a surprise to you, but there are still many many many many many many many many many many many many countries out there that do not have the freedom of speech, and amazingly enough, the Internet is not a country. Now, I know I just blew your mind with that last statement (especially since you're 18.) so I'll repeat: the Internet is not a country.

Free speech does not transfer over to the Internet. If it did, you'd be able to pretty much flame everyone everywhere. The amazing thing is, you can talk about nearly anything you want on the Internet...in your own webspace. Since no one country "owns the Internet" (and god help us all if one country did, they'd control the entire information flow of the whole world.), it is up to the owner of each thing on the Internet to set their own rules. ArenaNet sets theirs. Guru sets theirs. You can set yours on your own web space (within certain rules, namely if your IP is American and you upload child porn and someone finds out you can get screwed because there is Worldwide Cyber laws.).

Before I take my leave, I'll just blow your mind some more and let you know that you do not own your Guild Wars account, you just paid 50-250+$ to be given a license by ArenaNet to lease out the ability to join their servers. Not only do they own your account, all your characters, all your items, all your money, etc, but all you own is the box and CD and manual.

If ArenaNet wanted to they could ban you for using the letter E too much and you couldn't do jack shit about it (they are covered in any court by their EULA, nothing would stop them except no one would buy their games, but the point is they can.)

kthnx.

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The Chat filter is there for a reason, if you leave it off, and report people when you QQ for them cursing at you, TURN IT ON
The Chat Filter can be worked around, which is mostly what the report is for.

Guess no one thinks of this when it happens quite a lot.

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22 Aug 2008 at 06:03 - 51
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech.
You lost all credibility right there.

Edit: DarkNecrid explains it.

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22 Aug 2008 at 06:07 - 52
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech. I can say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I want, I can say shit if I want. Why on earth can I get reported, and get banned for swearing? There is a word filter in place for people who dislike it, and you can turn off chat if It really bothers you. Sure, I don't agree with using racism and stuff but if someone is saying stuff like that there are so many ways around it. Got two people paying 500g for a 2 plat CoF run before because of my swearing. I said RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO when I died once because someone lured out spiders and got us a party wipe. And I can't do anything about it, because if they report me I'm going to get a 3 day ban or a week ban.

This kind of situation is rare, but seriously people need to either grow up a little or just not take a fantasy game so seriously.

Edit: Lol I think you can guess what that wordfiltered word is, I think thats fine but why cant people on GW wordfilter too?
If you are 18 and still ask this question and argue to have the right to "speech" but the "speech" is only to use the F--K word then you seriously need to not THINK OF YOURSELF ONLY and start thinking of other people.

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22 Aug 2008 at 06:13 - 53
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I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech. I can say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I want
Irony.

If you didn't get the point: you don't have a right to free speech, not on these forums, and not in Guild Wars. You have precisely zero rights; it's all in the EULA and the site rules, the owners are obligated to give you nothing at all, and they don't have to give you any reasons.

That said, you won't get banned just for cursing. You'll get banned for abusive language, which includes (but is not limited to) cursing AT someone, evading the chat filter, and excessively cursing for no reason other than to be a nuisance.

Rothan Celt

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22 Aug 2008 at 07:21 - 54
I play with Filter off because im tired of all those ---- Anyways i dnt agree with ya. There is a lot of Racist Sexist and many other ist'ers out there and they should not be allowed to play the game. So thats the verbal abuse option I do not believe that you would be banned for saying words such as the F word Sh@* and if for example you are angry at having a party wipe then you would not be banned if you let out a barrage of Fu's and BS's .Simply using words to form a Verbal missile of hate is what gets you banned.

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22 Aug 2008 at 07:36 - 55
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Originally Posted by Illfated Fat
If anyone is offended by the simple use of what has been decided by society to be curse words, then hopefully they will be smart enough to use the chat filter and shut up.
No, they won't

People squeamish enough to be offended by simple word & malicious enough to report for it will disable filter on purpose of getting offended.

There was some USA case where neighbors sued man for excessive nudity. They used telescope AND binoculars.

I very much prefer Racists and such being able to represent their views openly because THEN I can easily identify those people.

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22 Aug 2008 at 07:38 - 56
Free speech =/= ability to wear white KKK robes, stalk black people and shout at them every time they stop at red lights.

Racism, terrorism or using foul language/insults =/= freedom of speech.

Besides, games is 12+, you want to swear and shout at everyone, go play counter strike and call everyone a f**k every time you get killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom...edom_of_speech

Profanity illegal? Check. Hate speech? Check. Obscenity? Check. There you go, you are NOT allowed to say anything you want, or write it.

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There was some USA case where neighbors sued man for excessive nudity. They used telescope AND binoculars.
Yeah, but there was a case (USA again) where a thief broke his legs on a slippery floor in a hotel and he won $2 dollars...

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22 Aug 2008 at 07:38 - 57
1) I understand that bringing age into this will only but us a lower position. (As I'm only 18 myself)

2) I do realize that Freedom of Speech is a utopian concept, and most definatly doesn't work in practical situation. (Face it, it doesn't)

3) This doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day:

THERE IS A CHAT FILTER.

It's the same when parents complain about pornography on television. EVERY television company allows their users the option to manually "block" (password protect) these programs.

I am yet to see a director of pornographic material getting sued by parents for showing porno to children... (Well, alot of Americans are dumb, nothing personal, and it prolly did happen, but you get the point)

Yes, I know I can't curse according to EULA.
No, I barely curse anyways, as I'm always on vent, and it's more easy to press Push to Talk button and shout, then to type out random stuff.
Nonetheless, Anet is sending out a wrong message. By having the chat filter, they pretty much say: "There will be foul language, but don't worry, you won't notice it".
Yes, in the EULA, they say they can ban for offensive language, BUT, here comes another big but:

One is more likely to NOT read the EULA. If we have to read the EULA for EVERY GAME, Product, or whetever we buy, we can fill our days reading EULA's, instead of actually playing the games...
When we buy a game, we ASSUME general rules apply, such as:

No cheating, no copying, no hacking, no swearing, no this, no that....

Now, we log in, and the first thing we, experienced player anyways, do, is check the "option" menu (To see the avaible setting, controls etc)

WHAT do we see there? A chat filter. Now, when you assume there is a chat filter, it's only logic to assume you're allowed to say whatever you want, as that is what the chat filter is for. (For the , once again, more conservative people)

(More often than not, people won't even have read the EULA, so the chat filter is the only signal they get)

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:06 - 58
Chat filter will do nothing if someone says "You black son of a *****" and replaces * with offensive word with a space in the middle, so that chat doesn't filter it.

And freedom of speech exists. You all just think it's "HAHA I CAN SAY ANYTHING AS LOUD AS I CAN AND YOU CAN'T DO ME ANYTHING HAHA". It's not.

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we can fill our days reading EULA's, instead of actually playing the games...
We can fill our days taking driving courses and writing exams for licenses, instead of actually driving the car.

Besides, if you have a common sense, you should know you will be punished for offensive language. You didn't know? So your parents allowed you to say anything? And you didn't get spanking for saying "f*ck" out loud? Too bad.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:16 - 59
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
Besides, if you have a common sense, you should know you will be punished for offensive language. You didn't know? So your parents allowed you to say anything? And you didn't get spanking for saying "f*ck" out loud? Too bad.
Which is my point. WHY have a chat filter alltogether then?

Just remove it, because it gives a "false" sense of "freedom of speech". (Type whatever you want) And it simply has no value, as people seem to report anyway, regardless of filter...

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:17 - 60
Wow I really love coming back to this, seeing one guy raise a new point and then seeing 6 other guys repeating it. I'm not American just so you know.

Ok yeap, I would really enjoy it if you read every post before just replying to my first post. I'm not asking to remove it entirely. I'm asking for it to be changed/worked around so people can't just report when someone swears. As fun as it is repeating my points over and over I'm not going too. Yes, as 20 people have said:

I'M FULLY AWARE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT IS AGAINST THE RULES.

But if you can be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language. Anet aint going to ban all of them. And what I'm trying to say is they shouldn't ban them all anyway. Using that language should be fine as long as it isn't actually targetting someone/offending someone. Yeah, you can say that just saying the word offends people but then we have chat filters. If people are getting around them, then yeap go ahead and ban them, they are going around a filter designed to protect fragile people such as yourselves. But people just using a word like that once and awhile when it slips out shouldn't have to put up with a three day ban.

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Before I take my leave, I'll just blow your mind some more and let you know that you do not own your Guild Wars account, you just paid 50-250+$ to be given a license by ArenaNet to lease out the ability to join their servers. Not only do they own your account, all your characters, all your items, all your money, etc, but all you own is the box and CD and manual.
Fully aware of this, and I'm also aware that it means they make the rules and could do anything they want to my account without notice. I'm making a suggestion, I doubt this will be acted upon considering the state of the game but hey, it never hurts to voice an opinion

BTW: People supporting this I <3 you

P.S: Lets not quote the EULA again, I don't think any thread can quote the EULA as much as this one.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:20 - 61
lol i remembered when i swore in front of my paras before i was very disappointed in the outcome they just said watch thou language. No spanking or sending to the bedroom just that


Oh and anyway Freedom of speech does not work it really does not and while im on the matter most peeps are not as 'Free' as they think England has a large amount of CCTV USA has crazy laws and barriers.
( i got done in for jaywalking or whatever its called..... wtf why can't i cross the road there ) Anyways the option for verbal abuse is not going its staying put no ones going to listen to this QQ thread.

( I realize the irony that i was 'QQing' earlier in my post so dnt point that out )

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:21 - 62
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
ie: young and stupid and think they have stupid rights.



In America.

I know this might come as a surprise to you, but there are still many many many many many many many many many many many many countries out there that do not have the freedom of speech, and amazingly enough, the Internet is not a country. Now, I know I just blew your mind with that last statement (especially since you're 18.) so I'll repeat: the Internet is not a country.

Free speech does not transfer over to the Internet. If it did, you'd be able to pretty much flame everyone everywhere. The amazing thing is, you can talk about nearly anything you want on the Internet...in your own webspace. Since no one country "owns the Internet" (and god help us all if one country did, they'd control the entire information flow of the whole world.), it is up to the owner of each thing on the Internet to set their own rules. ArenaNet sets theirs. Guru sets theirs. You can set yours on your own web space (within certain rules, namely if your IP is American and you upload child porn and someone finds out you can get screwed because there is Worldwide Cyber laws.).

Before I take my leave, I'll just blow your mind some more and let you know that you do not own your Guild Wars account, you just paid 50-250+$ to be given a license by ArenaNet to lease out the ability to join their servers. Not only do they own your account, all your characters, all your items, all your money, etc, but all you own is the box and CD and manual.

If ArenaNet wanted to they could ban you for using the letter E too much and you couldn't do jack shit about it (they are covered in any court by their EULA, nothing would stop them except no one would buy their games, but the point is they can.)

kthnx.



The Chat Filter can be worked around, which is mostly what the report is for.

Guess no one thinks of this when it happens quite a lot.
Lol sure they have the power to ban you for what ever thats like saying the people who make your food at a restuarant can do whatever they want. The people wont spit in your food and anet wont ban you for using the letter E too much cuz they dont wanna piss you off. They want you to keep playing and keep giving them money. Sure we all realize they CAN ban us and such because they have the power we do realize that god damn cripple. We are simply saying they are doing it for the wrong reasons and they think they have logic behind it. Banning people because 1 annoy'd person got a bunch of friends to report them too is wrong. Now if you turn your chat filter off you need to expect to be offended. Its like if u go into LA dis 1 and see some 1 spamming the N word u have the right to be offended but if u had your chat filter on in the first place u wouldnt even have seen it. So now what? Chat Fitler on for you shelted idiots. Thats all period.
kkthnx

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:24 - 63
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
You lost all credibility right there.

Edit: DarkNecrid explains it.
Guess you have credibility because you're older and you gues wiser? old man playing video game has credibilty? i think not

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:25 - 64
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But if you can be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language. Anet aint going to ban all of them. And what I'm trying to say is they shouldn't ban them all anyway. Using that language should be fine as long as it isn't actually targetting someone/offending someone. Yeah, you can say that just saying the word offends people but then we have chat filters. If people are getting around them, then yeap go ahead and ban them, they are going around a filter designed to protect fragile people such as yourselves. But people just using a word like that once and awhile when it slips out shouldn't have to put up with a three day ban.
Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:29 - 65
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
If you are 18 and still ask this question and argue to have the right to "speech" but the "speech" is only to use the F--K word then you seriously need to not THINK OF YOURSELF ONLY and start thinking of other people.
He's simply saying that he is old enough to swear and shouldnt have to tell the young players to *ear muffs* when he wants to say FCUK when some rambo warrior thinks he can take on 5 mobs? He was old enough to thoughtfully take off the filter and play at the adult level and even adults swear in fusteration. So it all comes back to the chat filter and taking it off it thinkin strictly about yourself because you think you're old enough and mature enough to deal with all the randoms across the world spraying the chats with their swearing and their oppinions. Maybe you should think about other people when you post these dumbass posts? Think about the time we gotta go to read through your crap then just think...wtf? Stop wasting our time and go play with legos

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:31 - 66
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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.
Oh god I really did lol here. Seriously I have no idea what to say to someone who thinks the Internet is full of good natured, caring and passive minded people.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:32 - 67
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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
Can you be serious for a moment, just one, you might realize that not everyone on the internet curses and swears and uses rude language.

I don't know where you get your facts but there are plenty of people that have this little thing called self control.

In fact, unless you are dysfunctional, you have it as well. Utilize it.
Not everyone swears and when they dont swear its usually cuz they find it offensive so they are the ones who should have their chat filter on. Self control to what? not swear over the internet? Self control comes in play irl on a video game u dont step away from your keyboard and count to 3 cuz ur angry at stupid people in the game. You're aloud to express yourself cuz its a game. So maybe u should control urself and stop posting stupid crap

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:37 - 68
They have a swear filter. F-ck being banned for saying f-ck or whatever else, when it's easily avoidable with the filter.

If you're that much of a carebear, or are underaged, just turn it on and forget about it. Stop trying to ULGG up the game with fail.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:39 - 69
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Originally Posted by QUAS_Daemon
Not everyone swears and when they dont swear its usually cuz they find it offensive so they are the ones who should have their chat filter on. Self control to what? not swear over the internet? Self control comes in play irl on a video game u dont step away from your keyboard and count to 3 cuz ur angry at stupid people in the game. You're aloud to express yourself cuz its a game. So maybe u should control urself and stop posting stupid crap
The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:42 - 70
other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....

Chocobo1

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New Zealand

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:44 - 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.
I don't say anything on the internet I wouldn't say in real life. You seem to think we want to go around cursing everyone. I'm sick of repeating myself to people who don't want to read. You know what I think of when I see you post?
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical..._syndrome.html

P.S Angry German Kid was fake, he did it to troll gullible people like yourself.

Chocobo1

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:45 - 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by stale
other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....
Wow it seems I'm just repeating myself constantly. Please read the thread before you talk. Every point you just said has not only been covered, but been replied to already. Just wow.

Not only have I explained the type of people reporting us, it's an incredible double-standard that you like to hear some people swearing while others you can't stand. I'm not saying go around and swear your heart out, I'm saying that I can use it in situations exactly as you described, and if people wish to get offended by comments not even directed to them they shouldn't be allowed to ban someone for it.

QUAS_Daemon

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:49 - 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
The only image I get when you post is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbcctWbC8Q0

Self control over your own language is what I mean by self control. The ability to realize that your language is offensive to some people and the ability to stop yourself from using it.

Just because it's a video game everything changes? What kind of logic is that? You are still interacting with people. The only difference is that I can't punch you in the face when you start spouting obscenities at me.
people can control themselfs around young people much like when your around children u can control yourself not to swear, but when there is a chat filter for kids of like 14 (usually used to swearing) and rest of people older than that i don't think u need to control urself around them. Now we talking about self control but u say u punch ppl in the face when they yell at u maybe u need look more into self control if u cant control urself from punching people? Thats like saying u go to a bar and control urself from swearing? This game is rated T for Teen thats 13++ if im right and most people have heard swearing by the age of thirteen and are used to it. Unless your a sheltered religious person and if so why would you turn off the chat filter? Why are WE the ones who must control ourselfs when they can just click a simple button and turn off all chat or even go and turn their chat filter on? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9IN...eature=related Unless you want everyone soundling like this just cuz they got self control then you should just give in and say that they needa start using the chat filter so the rest of us can play in peace

Kumu Honua

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:51 - 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1
I don't say anything on the internet I wouldn't say in real life. You seem to think we want to go around cursing everyone. I'm sick of repeating myself to people who don't want to read. You know what I think of when I see you post?
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical..._syndrome.html

P.S Angry German Kid was fake, he did it to troll gullible people like yourself.
No doubt in my mind that you deserved your ban. No doubt in my mind that you will have more in the future. No doubt in my mind that you cannot control yourself.

Chocobo1

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:52 - 75
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumu Honua
No doubt in my mind that you deserved your ban. No doubt in my mind that you will have more in the future. No doubt in my mind that you cannot control yourself.
No doubt in my mind that when you finally leave the basement and see the world, you're gonna retreat right back down there.

QUAS_Daemon

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Crusaders Of Apotheosis [CoA]

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:55 - 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by stale
other than the fact that the OP is providing amusement (in the sense that a blindfolded drunk in a room full of tripping hazards is amusing) is there any reason this thread is still even open?

the OP seems to overlook the simple fact that one ought to approach the world with a certain minimal respect. since we're in essence visiting the living room of everyone who has the all chat turned on - does it not behoove us to act accordingly?

in another sense, we're in anet's house - and it's their rules. suck it up.

as for the chat filter - the whole reason it exists is for folks who don't want to hear any cursing at all. understand?

there is a whole other portion of the population - those who don't mind some moderate cursing from friends, during private conversations, but don't care to hear YOU cursing. those are the ones reporting you. the group who are adult enough to not be offended by cursing in casual conversation, but don't feel the need to listen to some 18 year old bag of hormones and attitude spout off at the mouth.

notice how i did that? expressed some minor distaste for you? yet avoided cursing entirely?

as an earlier poster said - either master the english language, abide by anet's rules, or suck it up and keep to yourself till you're fit to join the general population.

i swear, some people are like slinkies....
Btw we PAID money to be in Anets house. Sure we must obey the rules but if they all of a sudden put a rule thats like No talking to any1 else in the game! This is now a single players game if u talk to sum1 ur banned, and they add in a TURN OFF ALL CHATS button and u turn that off and talk to sum1 and get banned isnt that YOUR fault for turning it off? and also thats a stupid rule people would protest or quit so yeah we're in their house but they cant screw us over or we are fcuking leaving... If they like to hear moderate cursing there are 2 levels off your chat filter Noraml and Maxium so they can do that. Or if they like to do SOME swearing in private chats then turn the other chats off? many flaws found in your dumbass post so please dont bother posting again.

Abedeus

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22 Aug 2008 at 08:59 - 77
Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.

Chocobo1

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22 Aug 2008 at 09:03 - 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.
My responses alone should prove how much self control I have over you people who can't read the posts. Once again, I do not agree with outright offending people, I'm saying If I said a swear word once about some awful situation I was currently in, not directed at anyone, and someone willingly had the chat filter off they should not be able to ban me for it.

/endofcripplesthatcantread

QUAS_Daemon

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22 Aug 2008 at 09:04 - 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Freedom of speech doesn't let you swear all you want and offend people.

You deserve your ban. And for this thread, you should get a month of ban for NOT learning your lesson.

/thread.
Sure but he wasnt talking so much about his rights but hes 18 an bought a T for Teen game meaning there should be some maturity, Not saying people who play games are. The fact that people can get banned for somthing that can be prevented by using the chat filter how it is intended is bullshit. Now if anet doesnt want to use their own shit then remove it so we can actually respect not swearing as long as it is easily avoided by chat filter and turning chats off then we shouldnt be punished. You deserve a helmet for a stupid post.

Kumu Honua

Kumu Honua

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22 Aug 2008 at 09:14 - 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1
No doubt in my mind that when you finally leave the basement and see the world, you're gonna retreat right back down there.
Yes, like you know me. You know all about me based on my opposing view. You have learned enough about me in this silly thread to deduce that I live in a basement. Please.

Would it surprise you to know that I don't report people for foul language? Would it surprise you to know that I despise the existence of the FCC in my country (They control language in the media)? Would it surprise you to know that I occasionally use foul language myself when in company of people that I know are not offended by it's content?

I however support ANET's rules. It's their house. Live by their rules or suffer the consequences. They aren't vague about it. They even repeat themselves so to remove any doubt.