God what a horrible horrible Engrish, chris. Work on it.
/closethread please.
Remove Reporting for Language
Abedeus
N1ghtstalker
just saw someone using strong language in kamadan
told him to watch the language and he told me to f*ck off
still want to remove reporting for verbal abuse?
or would you like those kids like the supernanny?
NO YOU STUPID B*TCH I WANT MY CORNFLAKES
think about it
told him to watch the language and he told me to f*ck off
still want to remove reporting for verbal abuse?
or would you like those kids like the supernanny?
NO YOU STUPID B*TCH I WANT MY CORNFLAKES
think about it
Tyla
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Originally Posted by chris1234565
i disagree badly since there is yonger children playing who are easy infulenced and persides there is not much language you can say and remember its only a game lol you dont need to sware
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One: Don't use "lol" in the middle of a sentence. Please, don't. ><
Two: There is already a filter, that is automatically on when your account is created. There is no reason not to use this if you have anything against "The "F" word" or anything else like that.
@Nightstalker: This thread is based on normal swearing, not abuse of it. People are and have opinions for and against the language, and abuse is abuse. I think it was mentioned in the beginning of the thread but I really can't be arsed with it.
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Chocobo1
My mate said RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you to some asshole in a run. He got 3 of his guildmates and himself to report him and my mate ended up with a week ban. So yeah, either Anet needs to look at it more carefully (dont think they can considering far more important stuff) or It needs to be removed or something. The Idea of it is cool, but It doesn't translate well into the hands of 11 year olds who shouldn't really be playing the game anyway.
Also, about the EULA thing, seriously come on. You expect to play a game where no one swears at all? I don't agree with racist comments, nor just spamming swears and stuff but stuff can slip out and it shouldn't be bannable just because they want to have their chat filter off. Why turn it off if you get offended that easily? Edit: The filter on this site makes everything hilarious |
MithranArkanere
The filter does NOT excuse you from using proper language. It's a security measure against those that do not follow the rules.
There is no need at all for any kind of impolite language in the same way there is no need to remove the /report language option.
If you can't refrain from using impolite words, refrain from using the chat at all, then.
There is no need at all for any kind of impolite language in the same way there is no need to remove the /report language option.
If you can't refrain from using impolite words, refrain from using the chat at all, then.
N1ghtstalker
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@Nightstalker: This thread is based on normal swearing, not abuse of it. People are and have opinions for and against the language, and abuse is abuse. I think it was mentioned in the beginning of the thread but I really can't be arsed with it. |
i can't just start yelling c*ck or c*nt in local chat
Snow Bunny
Anet set some rules in their game, play by their rules. The report feature is there, you know about it.
Just /ignore them. Sure, I don't support it, but w/e
Just /ignore them. Sure, I don't support it, but w/e
Etta
I actually love swearing, i do it all the time at work, while i'm driving, shoping etc. Just remember you're not motherloving Gordon Ramsay. So do it while you're playing with friends or people that know you.
Here watch this and relax, one love man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xKUU5sWS4
Here watch this and relax, one love man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xKUU5sWS4
Chocobo1
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Originally Posted by payne
really am falling off my chair laughing at how pathetic your argument is.....and how childish you are
people will generally read the OP then post their views!!! you are whining about how you were mini-banned for VA and then you go onto insult me as "a retard" I think your argument loses even more credability (well if it had any left) as you seem to be insulting every one that posted - so if you are just gonna troll gtfo or just don't post again if you are unhappy with the responses... cookie? or a new one - (torn)? <<<understand the reference? |
Actually, I've been praising the opinions of people even against my argument who can put up some valid reasons. I'm not here to start a flame war, I wanted to see if there was any way around this. Mostly It seems to be a gray area of what is defined as inapropriate. Sure Anet isn't going to say "Go ahead and swear" or something to that effect but my friend getting banned for swearing at peoploe provoking him was pretty sad.
To be honest, I don't think Anet has the time or resources to read every indvidual report that comes along, nor do I really expect them too. I think my friend got banned because more than 2 people reported him (friends helping friends -_-) and it's just abuse of the system.
Maybe even a notice on the front of Guild Wars (Like how it has the anti-scam stuff and weekend events) just reminding that you have a chat filter etc could really help some of the players who are too immature to deal with certain language used by people in the game. Happy to hear any other things about this as long as you've kinda read the thread. Nightstalker you also missed the thread it seems, might wanna go back and read.
Kanyatta
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here's a statement to think of
 12+ would you like to see your kids be exposed to strong language? or do you like to know your kids already known very abusive language wether or not to insult another person? i've known players younger than this btw so that's my 2 cents and a box cover offc i'm 17 and i can cuss like there's no tommorow, but i keep my tone down when young children may be around (kamadan, etc..., all of local chat really) |
How very respectful of you that you keep the foul language down in all chat, but this is the Internet, not your local mall. Yeah, I wouldn't go into a store and start swearing at the top of my lungs, but this is the Internet. Only things that violate federal law (pirating, pedophilia, etc.) have consequences, and even then, it's rare someone is caught. I realize it's Anet's game and they're gonna do what they want, which is keep the language report option up.
Zahr Dalsk
I see little kids swearing all the time these days. What's the big deal? Not like we're going to ruin our youth; they're already ruined by terrible parenting.
This game is rated T anyways. Don't fool yourselves, people 13 and over have most definitely heard this already and become desensitized to it.
This game is rated T anyways. Don't fool yourselves, people 13 and over have most definitely heard this already and become desensitized to it.
CHEF1187
comical.
letters put together are offensive.
poop, crap and shit all mean the same thing. why is one deemed a swear word and the other two aren't?
I've never understood the concept that letters put together, are offensive.
letters put together are offensive.
poop, crap and shit all mean the same thing. why is one deemed a swear word and the other two aren't?
I've never understood the concept that letters put together, are offensive.
Quick_Prodigy
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I'm so sick of this. I'm 18, I have a right to free speech.
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noneedforclevernames
The reason why you are not allowed to use bad language in the game is because you signed a contract during installation, which says you will not swear. This "Contract" is called the EULA, which also means you have to follow the Rules of Conduct.
If people are swearing constantly in the game it not only makes the in-game community look bad to those debating whether or not they want to buy the game, but it also is not safe for other player's personal life. No matter what your age is, if you're constantly around swearing and other harmful language, it will easily carry into your personal life if you are not extremely careful.
Guild Wars is supposed to be an easy going game with a good community, not a community of swearing and bad language. You don't have to swear to have fun, and swearing makes the game not fun for a lot of people.
If people are swearing constantly in the game it not only makes the in-game community look bad to those debating whether or not they want to buy the game, but it also is not safe for other player's personal life. No matter what your age is, if you're constantly around swearing and other harmful language, it will easily carry into your personal life if you are not extremely careful.
Guild Wars is supposed to be an easy going game with a good community, not a community of swearing and bad language. You don't have to swear to have fun, and swearing makes the game not fun for a lot of people.
pumpkin pie
this thread should have stop here you think arena net would simply ban just because someone reported you? look at all the unbanned players in AB after you reported them the next time you enter, they are there again standing leeching and laughing at the rest of the team.
If you have good cause and evidence that you did actually not use the f word in an offensive way i am sure the ban would not have been impose.
Advise, guildwars support is a good place to start, present your case if your innocent, other wise don't commit anything that will get you ban.
If you have good cause and evidence that you did actually not use the f word in an offensive way i am sure the ban would not have been impose.
Advise, guildwars support is a good place to start, present your case if your innocent, other wise don't commit anything that will get you ban.
gremlin
Not sure of the reasoning behind swearing in a game or indeed swearing in text.
Ok I swear occasionally esp when I do something that causes me pain or is completely stupid, but that's a reaction to a physical situation.
I also swear under my breath when I read of a person official body or government that does something idiotic.
I tend to alter my language to the group of people I am with some friends I swear with others not.
Wouldn't generally swear when in a group of strangers and that's the situation online.
Also in a game situation if I blew a mission or died messed up a trading session bought the wrong armour etc I might swear.
Never would I type it, the idea is silly in the extreme by the time I typed it the reason for swearing is over and anyone who sees it and comments would have me typing explanations for why I did it.
Your over 18 and have a perfect right to swear, I am over 18 and have a perfect right not to hear you and yes my filter is on but some gets through.
I uphold absolutely the rights of the individual to be free to do and say what they will, provided this freedom doesn't affect the freedoms of others.
Ok I swear occasionally esp when I do something that causes me pain or is completely stupid, but that's a reaction to a physical situation.
I also swear under my breath when I read of a person official body or government that does something idiotic.
I tend to alter my language to the group of people I am with some friends I swear with others not.
Wouldn't generally swear when in a group of strangers and that's the situation online.
Also in a game situation if I blew a mission or died messed up a trading session bought the wrong armour etc I might swear.
Never would I type it, the idea is silly in the extreme by the time I typed it the reason for swearing is over and anyone who sees it and comments would have me typing explanations for why I did it.
Your over 18 and have a perfect right to swear, I am over 18 and have a perfect right not to hear you and yes my filter is on but some gets through.
I uphold absolutely the rights of the individual to be free to do and say what they will, provided this freedom doesn't affect the freedoms of others.
Lycan Nibbler
Can't control your language? maybe you should be learning how to instead of playing a game (just a suggestion).
Dr.Jones
i 100% agree the bans for inappropriate language should be stooped. there is a chat filter. and i think that if they added a way to add words to the filter it would fix any problems people would have. i for one couldn't stand being limited as to what i could say in C&C3 and flat out stopped playing the game because there was no way to remove the filter.
Chocobo1
With a new wave of posts comes a new wave of stupid 
. Covered the EULA problem, covered that I'm not a angry german kid in chat form etc etc.
Hahaha have you ever tried Guild Wars support xD it's almost as bad as Battle.net! Um, I don't think Arenanet bans people just because ONE person reported them, but multiple reports I have seen them ban people for, which is easily abused by just getting your friends to report the person at the same time. If I can get the emails of my mate I'll show you some of the replies from the Arena.Net staff because its hilarious. Also note we didn't actually get a reply until the ban was up.
Can't read the thread before making a post? maybe you should be learning how instead of replying on the net (just a suggestion).
Hmm, lets just clear this up now then. This was a joke line, a sterotypical American thing to say. I'm glad we can all quote the first line of my post, but there is 7 other pages.
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you think arena net would simply ban just because someone reported you? look at all the unbanned players in AB after you reported them the next time you enter, they are there again standing leeching and laughing at the rest of the team. If you have good cause and evidence that you did actually not use the f word in an offensive way i am sure the ban would not have been impose. Advise, guildwars support is a good place to start, present your case if your innocent, other wise don't commit anything that will get you ban. |
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shoyon456
Filter is useless, report language needs to stay. Anet's filter isn't hip on all of the common racial slurrs.
And fyi, if the person has REALLY peeve'd me off with his idiocy or blatant racist remarks against someone or me, I take the time to screenshot the event and file a ticket on ncsoft myself. Usually that gets a quicker response from a GM.
And fyi, if the person has REALLY peeve'd me off with his idiocy or blatant racist remarks against someone or me, I take the time to screenshot the event and file a ticket on ncsoft myself. Usually that gets a quicker response from a GM.
Chocobo1
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Filter is useless, report language needs to stay. Anet's filter isn't hip on all of the common racial slurrs.
And fyi, if the person has REALLY peeve'd me off with his idiocy or blatant racist remarks against someone or me, I take the time to screenshot the event and file a ticket on ncsoft myself. Usually that gets a quicker response from a GM. |
Sir Tom Hunter
O.o Simple as, if ur trying to offend someone = ban if ur just swearing at the situation = no ban (assuming its not something raciest/ect.)
My question is why argue on the internet, its like running in the special Olympics no one wins and at the end ur all.. u get the point. I try my best simply not to insult the other person with rash words of mindless arguing to begin with! "Do not argue with an idiot they will drag u down to their level and beat u with experience".
My question is why argue on the internet, its like running in the special Olympics no one wins and at the end ur all.. u get the point. I try my best simply not to insult the other person with rash words of mindless arguing to begin with! "Do not argue with an idiot they will drag u down to their level and beat u with experience".
Chocobo1
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O.o Simple as, if ur trying to offend someone = ban if ur just swearing at the situation = no ban (assuming its not something raciest/ect.)
My question is why argue on the internet, its like running in the special Olympics no one wins and at the end ur all.. u get the point. I try my best simply not to insult the other person with rash words of mindless arguing to begin with! "Do not argue with an idiot they will drag u down to their level and beat u with experience". |
pumpkin pie
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Hahaha have you ever tried Guild Wars support xD it's almost as bad as Battle.net! Um, I don't think Arenanet bans people just because ONE person reported them, but multiple reports I have seen them ban people for, which is easily abused by just getting your friends to report the person at the same time. If I can get the emails of my mate I'll show you some of the replies from the Arena.Net staff because its hilarious. Also note we didn't actually get a reply until the ban was up.
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now, with that said, the problem isn't the support, is what your friend say in the "incident", ask them what they say. no one knows, only ArenaNet support, your friend and the people reporting would know.
if your friend have screenshots of the incident and it show there's no real reason for a ban you should do something
daze
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO
i see this a lot, and am completely clueless as to what it means... I thought it was a term referring to WoW. But i asked one of my co-workers who plays WoW all the time and he had no idea...
Any clarification as to what this references will be appreciated.
i see this a lot, and am completely clueless as to what it means... I thought it was a term referring to WoW. But i asked one of my co-workers who plays WoW all the time and he had no idea...
Any clarification as to what this references will be appreciated.
pamelf
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RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO
i see this a lot, and am completely clueless as to what it means... I thought it was a term referring to WoW. But i asked one of my co-workers who plays WoW all the time and he had no idea... Any clarification as to what this references will be appreciated. |
The reapeated GO RED ENGINE is the guru filter for f*ck.
BTW, language warning for children on the next videok, but this is why swear words rock!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCcCzj_yRtk
Avarre
Guild Wars is a teen game. Do you know any teens (especially those that play games) that don't use vulgar language?
I think restrictions on it are pretty silly, especially when you can ignore/map/turn off chat/use filter. Abuse is a different story, I suppose.
I think restrictions on it are pretty silly, especially when you can ignore/map/turn off chat/use filter. Abuse is a different story, I suppose.
Abedeus
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By the way, abusable... All people would have to be in the same town/location/server/district as you are to report you. And since it's almost impossible in 4vs4 or something like pve (unless you pug, it serves you right), you probably insulted a lot of people in a outpost.
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Dude, you already promised us you won't post in this thread. Stop it. The longer you denial you were to blame, the more you will get banned. Simple.
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You can't map/turn off whisper.
Filter isn't almighty.
Avarre
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Can't put on Ignore list when it's full. FFS why only 10 ignore list and 100 friends list? -.-
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You can appear offline, as well.
Abedeus
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And I usually have also scammers that tried to scam me on ignore list, so I don't get accidentally tricked by them.
I still ask, why this thread isn't closed. OP offended someone, or insulted him. Filter doesn't matter if someone says "*beep* you, your mother and your family!! you old stupid gay *beep*", right? Because no matter what it censured, it was wrong and should be punished.
Chocobo1
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And just because one person is bugging me, I should get offline so that none from the guild/friends should see me.
And I usually have also scammers that tried to scam me on ignore list, so I don't get accidentally tricked by them. I still ask, why this thread isn't closed. OP offended someone, or insulted him. Filter doesn't matter if someone says "*beep* you, your mother and your family!! you old stupid gay *beep*", right? Because no matter what it censured, it was wrong and should be punished. |
RedStar
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Wow I thought everyone understood it by now. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY INSULT SOMEONE, AKA YOU AREN'T AIMING IT AT THEM. Wow.
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Your ban isn't entirely the fault of the report system. Some people are just bitchy and decide to report everyone for the smallest things.
Sleeper Service
where is the suggestion in the op.
8 pages of shit and this is ok? double standards is the norm huh.
8 pages of shit and this is ok? double standards is the norm huh.
Chocobo1
The point of keeping this going was to try find a way around this. Btw once again, I wasn't banned it was my mate. Orginal suggestion was to remove the button but obviously that can't really be done without people abusing it so trying to find some middle ground.
DarkNecrid
Just because you don't aim something at someone doesn't make it magically "not offensive" towards them. If someone said the N word in my vicinity irl, I would be pretty damn offended.
RedStar
Sorry, I skipped a few pages xD.
Anyway, with so much people that plays GW, it's impossible to make everyone happy (look at every update ANet did, there was always a bunch of people that weren't happy with it).
Anyway, with so much people that plays GW, it's impossible to make everyone happy (look at every update ANet did, there was always a bunch of people that weren't happy with it).
MithranArkanere
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i 100% agree the bans for inappropriate language should be stooped. there is a chat filter. and i think that if they added a way to add words to the filter it would fix any problems people would have. i for one couldn't stand being limited as to what i could say in C&C3 and flat out stopped playing the game because there was no way to remove the filter.
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It's a PARTIAL MEASURE just in case people do not follow the rules.
You must follow the rules and us proper language only regardless of the chat filter, since such language is forbidden by the EULA itself.
If you want to be a dirty loudmouth... well... DON'T.
Proper language is the only valid language, you can be the evilest demon of hell or the darkest anti-hero, and yet you MUST use proper language only. Not a single swearword should be allowed.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Just because you don't aim something at someone doesn't make it magically "not offensive" towards them. If someone said the N word in my vicinity irl, I would be pretty damn offended.
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Seriously, if you're that little of a person to let words get to you, I have a message for you. I mean this in the nicest way possible... grow a pair. Seriously, sticks 'n stones. We were all taught this at age 9, follow through. Just because someone uses "the N word" doesn't make them racist. I have a few black friends and when we're out and about and stuff, "the N word" is used pretty loosely because they know me and my white friends are not racist. The amount of people who use racial slurs is far and away greater than the actual amount of racists. Grow up and live in the real world, not everything is sunshine, candy and rainbows and never will be. I have a different opinion about racist actions, obviously (KKK, racial profiling, etc.)
DarkNecrid
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The amount of "OMG! But pplz will be offended!!!" posts really makes me rofl.
Seriously, if you're that little of a person to let words get to you, I have a message for you. I mean this in the nicest way possible... grow a pair. Seriously, sticks 'n stones. We were all taught this at age 9, follow through. Just because someone uses "the N word" doesn't make them racist. I have a few black friends and when we're out and about and stuff, "the N word" is used pretty loosely because they know me and my white friends are not racist. The amount of people who use racial slurs is far and away greater than the actual amount of racists. Grow up and live in the real world, not everything is sunshine, candy and rainbows and never will be. I have a different opinion about racist actions, obviously (KKK, racial profiling, etc.) |
Stockholm
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I have a few black friends and when we're out and about and stuff, "the N word" is used pretty loosely because they know me and my white friends are not racist.
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