Update 9/10/08

trioptikmal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

umm pardon me for being noob but what is ghost runninG?

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

Hahaha, I love how people only care about Unyielding Aura.

Athrun Feya

Athrun Feya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oxford, UK

Hiding From Shi Tters [Shh]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
EDIT: /unsigned for radar range for UA, it'd still allow abuse. Maybe spirit range.
How would this still allow abuse? Ghostrunning is completely out of the question as you spawn within radar (and why does this matter when a half decent perma-SF can run it anyway?).

FrAnt1c??

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

I like the skill updates

GG izzy (y)

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Splendid. Now I can use my old MM Hero build again.

sibelang

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

ahahahahahahahahaha

VS farm still go on even Justicar Thommis update

Quote:
Miscellaneous
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Shortened the distance that Justicar Thommis will chase fleeing characters in the Slaver's Exile dungeon.
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fail update?

Axagoth Baal

Axagoth Baal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Not your business.

Guardiani di Tyria

Mo/

GG on glowing skills update... btw...

So a mesmer should have more problems using elementalist skills than an ele but a RaO can still use scythes, axes and hammers often better than their primaries?

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
This. Stronger (and more universal) healing potential than HB, removes the need for a res.
Not much stronger and only more universal for the handfull healing spells that are not in Healing Prayers, for the price of being a maintained enchantment.

A clear indication of range would be nice too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by trioptikmal
... what is ghost runninG?
Mob's spawn when players get near, not heroes. With Ghostrunner the player equips a hero with UA and sends it to the target area-exit. When the hero arrives, the player dies and lets de hero cancel UA, thus rezzing the player near the exit to the next area. Easy run.

SilentWhistle

SilentWhistle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

UK

[NoW]

Mo/W

Lol @ all the QQ in here.
They fixed a godly overpowered skill, get over it.

Azora

Azora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Portugal =P

We Need Fame [sOz]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axagoth Baal
GG on glowing skills update... btw...

So a mesmer should have more problems using elementalist skills than an ele but a RANGER can still use scythes, axes and hammers often better than their primaries?

OMFG stop with QQ ?? this is discussed like for ages now!!! u are a mesmer right? u cast spells faster then a ranger!! now shut up cause every class has a unique "power" u cast fast i use less energy on skills! eles got mroe energy! monks heal even more sins do more critical hits and necros gain energy when people die!!! wats the problem!!!! why do u think soj mesmers appear? cause of the signet stuff ofc but also cause mesmers can cast them faster!! if u are jelous of the rangers CREATE ONE!

weemanpow3

weemanpow3

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

We Farm Your [트두므s]

Mo/

Their was no need for a nerf on UA. UA just made the game fun and saved people some time on casual play and elite missions. Now it will be left in the shadows again.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Hmmm... I KNEW I should have VS farmed a little more this week. damn you spore...

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

So whats the deal with glowing gaze and stuff? Is it a nerf or a buff? Lol i cant understand

idicious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Holland

LoD

P/W

I'd suggest they make UA either Compass or Spirit range, I agree it was to heavily abusable and needed to be nerfed from what it was, but now it just goes back to the useless elite box.

Axagoth Baal

Axagoth Baal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Not your business.

Guardiani di Tyria

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azora
OMFG stop with QQ ?? this is discussed like for ages now!!! u are a mesmer right? u cast spells faster then a ranger!! now shut up cause every class has a unique "power" u cast fast i use less energy on skills! eles got mroe energy! monks heal even more sins do more critical hits and necros gain energy when people die!!! wats the problem!!!! why do u think soj mesmers appear? cause of the signet stuff ofc but also cause mesmers can cast them faster!! if u are jelous of the rangers CREATE ONE!
My first char is a ranger
what i meant is that mesmer/ele needed to be nerfed because they were way better than eles with mirror of ice... and so rangers should be, maybe raising adrenaline required from all warrior skills and giving strength a % to build up adren faster (or something like that), that was not a QQ, just telling what i see. Ranger builds that involve secondary professions never get nerfed as they should be. Sorry for OT

viespea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2008

What`s next ? natural healing ?.....>(

Evil_Necro

Evil_Necro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

川崎区、日本

currently guildless..

Rt/

<3 update!

Love the Mind Blast

:P

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
So whats the deal with glowing gaze and stuff? Is it a nerf or a buff? Lol i cant understand
Buff if you are E/x
Nerf if you are x/E

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Buff if you are E/x
Nerf if you are x/E
Oh lol I'm stupid, I didnt get it first (even tho I play me/e in gvg and e/mo in HA.. xD /fail by me)

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
So whats the deal with glowing gaze and stuff? Is it a nerf or a buff? Lol i cant understand
Nothing as far as I can see, it's more or less the same running it on an Ele primary, and it isn't nearly as abusable on a Mesmer primary.

I like this update alot. No more FC Waters (At least I assume so), Mind Blast is slightly back.

Oh, and two things. MY UNYIELDING AURA GOT FIXED BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, AND SLOTH HUNTER'S!!!

Oh, and just wondering, does VFarming still work or have they changed Jusitcar Thommis's aggro range drastically?

In short: GG!

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Love the ele update

for the tonic: worst ever imo

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Buff if you are E/x
Nerf if you are x/E
Not too sure about Ele primaries: now you're forced to spec 8 points into a crappy attribute for it to be as effective as before. You'll hardly ever run 10 energy storage for it to count as a buff.

(of course we're talking about PvP, in PvE I guess it counts as a buff since everyone probably slaps 12+1 points in it)

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Oh, and just wondering, does VFarming still work or have they changed Jusitcar Thommis's aggro range drastically?

In short: GG!
Yes.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...319512&page=13

Ok, my turn to ask a question!
How are heroes with the new UA? I always noticed that when they went to rebirth, they'd move in closer than the edge of aggro range so I'm thinking the same for UA. Y/N?

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Fire eles have about 730 easy ways to set a foe on fire within their primary skill line. Water eles have a large number of hexes in their primary skill line. Air eles can draw on any attacking foe, though this is chancier and requires better timing than is asked of the fire or water eles. Earth eles have two disfunctional ways to cause weakness within their primary skill line. Glowstone -- and, to some extent, Shock Arrow -- are still not on an equal footing with Glowing Gaze and Glowing Ice. Meh.

Artinnia

Artinnia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Does my Guild Hall count?

Dragoon Knights of Fury

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Yes.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...319512&page=13

Ok, my turn to ask a question!
How are heroes with the new UA? I always noticed that when they went to rebirth, they'd move in closer than the edge of aggro range so I'm thinking the same for UA. Y/N?

I tested it... the hero won't run up and drop the enchantment to rez you. You have to pin them just at aggro range and manually drop the enchant... it's still viable I think for PvE Mid-battle rezzes. Heck I bring Mindbender and Rezchant just for that.

nidy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Long Island, NY

R/Me

Best update I've seen in a long time. Anyone saying UA wasn't exploited knows that isn't true. Anet never meant for people to be able to teleport other people across the map.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artinnia
I tested it... the hero won't run up and drop the enchantment to rez you. You have to pin them just at aggro range and manually drop the enchant...
Ok, I'll have to try it out later because I always hated how I would have to flag Oggy within the aggro circle (not at the edge like players would) to get him to rebirth. Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artinnia
...it's still viable I think for PvE Mid-battle rezzes.
/Seconded.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akaraxle
Not too sure about Ele primaries: now you're forced to spec 8 points into a crappy attribute for it to be as effective as before. You'll hardly ever run 10 energy storage for it to count as a buff.

(of course we're talking about PvP, in PvE I guess it counts as a buff since everyone probably slaps 12+1 points in it)
Depends, now that i has useful effect it can be considered "not so crappy". 7+1 is easy to afford and gives you nice att split possibilities, 9+1 is common enough to consider this buff.

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

Not mentioned in the OP but I am happy they fixed Master of Magic to work with all ele skills not just spells. Might even consider playing around with this one again.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

They balanced Glowing Ice very nicely if anyone else noticed that out of all the PvE-drama.

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

It's a real shame about the UA nerf. Everyone agrees that it had to be nerfed, but this is overkill. As mentioned before, it should be changed to radar or maybe spirit range because as it is now it's nearly completely useless.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
They balanced Glowing Ice very nicely if anyone else noticed that out of all the PvE-drama.
Should've been done long time ago.

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
They balanced Glowing Ice very nicely if anyone else noticed that out of all the PvE-drama.
Think you're the only one who noticed until now - you're absolutely right!

I, for one, think it's a good update, the Ghost Runner was an exploit and we all knew it as such, admit it!

The UA didn't make sense the way it was, and let's face it, with all the training the Perma's have had in the last couple of weeks, the good ones rarely die anyway.

Not a huge problem anyway: sin dies, everyone runs and suicide on the first mob - try again! Of course this doesn't work if you have a crappy Perma that dies multiple times ,- but then again, you're supposed to have a hard time if you pug with noobs!

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Nice to hopefully see me/e's out of the scene a bit, annoying little things.

Could someone explain what ghost running was? Something to do with completing FoW or what?

nekopowa

nekopowa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Croatia

A/P

Another sparkler update. Holds your interest for 2 minutes then it's all the same. New content ftw?

januscht

januscht

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Order Of The Abominations [OoTA]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I'm glad they removed the oozes and rats. Was starting to get annoying. No need to advertise GW:EN anymore with those things. It was like leaving the christmas decorations up until June.
you mean until SEPTERBER right? xD
since day 1 i saw coming a UA nerf, it was way broken, i wont lie, i used it and loved it but fun things nerver last long T_T

anet gaves us a new toy and now they crush it under they feet, bb ua

and btw, i was expecting some other skill changes, buffs on useles elites etc, it seems i should not hope much for next month <_<

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

They made no changes to Thommis whatseoever. He still follows the permasin to the corner and they casters can still nuke him and all of his cronies to death and loot the chest.

The biggest problems now are that UA can't res the sin and the rife displacement issues. /stuck is not a solution, it's a cheap workaround. Budget server usage is to blame.

I suggest removing body-blocking and relic running until it's fixed.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

i guess they have perfected all the other professions. lulz

Midnight Harmony

Midnight Harmony

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

South East England

Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP]

E/Me

Anet lets us have a moment of fun then snatches it away again. It's funny hundreds moaned at Ursan yet it took them ages to nerf it, yet we find something enjoyable that nobody moans at and it is gone in an instant.

kicks66

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

London

[Cape]

E/

What was the Frog Scepter Farm?