"Longest Set of Guild Wars Update Notes Ever"

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

I would rather see an update fairly free of bugs than an update full of them. If they need to wait to make the update live then so be it. I for one am anxious for this update. I hope it is not late but if it is I can wait for it.

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

the more i think about this update, the more upset i think i'll be come thursday...

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Regina is right in saying that the common error is to believe that the update will save Guild Wars in the coming weeks. Please don’t take things way out of proportion here, it’s simply is not healthy. We all should have other things we are going to be looking forward to in the coming weeks, and this update can probably be seen as smidge of that offering.

In addition, you have to consider that this update comes with the good, bad, and the ugly. Except maybe the M.O.X. one, unless you count the fire imp summing stone being unusable passed level 20 (doesn’t matter to me).

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I will at least hope that boon signet, healing light and life sheath get buffed in the skill update.

Binary

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

The Netherlands

Mo/

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Originally Posted by I Is Special View Post
Ya see that?

She loves me.
No, she loves me!

ele pl

ele pl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

E/

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Originally Posted by Binary View Post
No, she loves me!

No, everyone know that she loves ME!

But srsly people, enough quote wars.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
I will at least hope that boon signet, healing light and life sheath get buffed in the skill update.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the skill update happened last Thursday.

Topinambour

Topinambour

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

France !

Always Asking [Why]

W/

Am I the only to think that they postponed the skills update to counter WotLK up to sale ? Because dates are corresponding and reasons could be thought.

DarkNecrid it was announced by Mrs Buenaobra that past week's update was a quick one before having this week a bigger one.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

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Originally Posted by Topinambour View Post
Am I the only to think that they postponed the skills update to counter WotLK up to sale ? Because dates are corresponding and reasons could be thought.

DarkNecrid it was announced by Mrs Buenaobra that past week's update was a quick one before having this week a bigger one.
Doubt it. Only avid GW fans would even know about the date of the update. Its not like the update is being advertised anywhere as a means to draw in new players (why would it anyways, oh boy, this thing called "titles" in a game I've never played are now easier to get).

And a.net doesn't care if avid GW fans go off to play WoW right now or not (they already have your money, there is no harm to their company/buisness model if you play another game).

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Topinambour View Post
Am I the only to think that they postponed the skills update to counter WotLK up to sale ? Because dates are corresponding and reasons could be thought.

DarkNecrid it was announced by Mrs Buenaobra that past week's update was a quick one before having this week a bigger one.
Link?

(12 charsssss)

I might've missed over this, but she has plainly said that last Thursday was skill update and this Thursday was title & TRP update.

Topinambour

Topinambour

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

France !

Always Asking [Why]

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Yes you're right DarkNecrid but it seems like the last Thursday's update was a quick patch to fill in something, imho they will be more skills updates this time than last Thursday.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Originally Posted by Topinambour View Post
Yes you're right DarkNecrid but it seems like the last Thursday's update was a quick patch to fill in something, imho they will be more skills updates this time than last Thursday.
No that would be pretty wrong and if there is its just a PvE skill only adjustment, the skill update last Thursday was the skill update for the month and that's it basically. (and spreading anything else ain't helping!)

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

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Originally Posted by Topinambour View Post
Yes you're right DarkNecrid but it seems like the last Thursday's update was a quick patch to fill in something, imho they will be more skills updates this time than last Thursday.
There's some sort of tournament on Friday afaik, so I highly doubt Izzy will make changes the day before.

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

So when is it coming out?

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Rewards Points this Thursday as a pacifier, big update 7 weeks from never.

Junior Gong

Junior Gong

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Right near tha Beach

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
There's some sort of tournament on Friday afaik, so I highly doubt Izzy will make changes the day before.
So as far as you know what tournament is this you are speaking of, because it was my understanding that Izzy only made a few immediate changes to some skills that affected GvG last Thursday as not screw up the European ESL tournament that is now finished and there will be alot more pvp skill updates this Thursday.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Longest NOTES people.

Repeat after me:

Longest NOTES.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

Longest NOTES people.

Repeat after me:

Longest NOTES.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

oh btw...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina
November Update of Doom - 10 November 2008

There's been a lot of talk in the forums and elsewhere about the upcoming game update later this week. Linsey and the rest of the Live Team have been working extremely hard on this for weeks, often working long hours. To try and illustrate this, Linsey mentioned on the wiki that the update notes were going to be pretty long this week -- though the rumour mill incorrectly interpeted her words to mean that this would be the biggest game update ever. The Live Team is working flat out this week to prepare for the build. This week looks like it will be full of nights of long hours for our QA team, who need to comb through the game to check that every single detail works the way it should. Linsey herself was here working very hard over the weekend. Myself and other members of the Live Team just had a meeting a short while ago. The amount of testing work that needs to go into this build is pretty sizeable, and they're warning me that it's possible that they may delay the build. Obviously, delaying the build past its scheduled date of November 13 isn't something they want to do in ideal circumstances, but they also want to make sure that they don't miss any details. I'm just posting to let you know that there is a chance that the build may be delayed. I will try and keep you all updated here.
let the lulz begin

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

Chill out kiddies. The update will come when it comes. It's awfully easy to say something fails because it doesn't come out on time when you don't have to put in the long hours trying to meet deadlines. Patience is a virtue, and there is more to life than hitting f5 on the wiki game update page. Again, chill...out...

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye View Post
Chill out kiddies. The update will come when it comes.
Yeah and so will Christmas. Your point being?

I mean, really, it's not difficult (and no, what i'm about to say is not up for debate), to keep to a schedule for such a company.

Something pops up? You work overtime on it. That's how it works in every other job.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride View Post
Yeah and so will Christmas. Your point being?

I mean, really, it's not difficult (and no, what i'm about to say is not up for debate), to keep to a schedule for such a company.

Something pops up? You work overtime on it. That's how it works in every other job.
or you get an extension....o wait

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
There's some sort of tournament on Friday afaik, so I highly doubt Izzy will make changes the day before.
yes because Izzy has never done this before....

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride View Post
Yeah and so will Christmas. Your point being?

I mean, really, it's not difficult (and no, what i'm about to say is not up for debate), to keep to a schedule for such a company.

Something pops up? You work overtime on it. That's how it works in every other job.
It's easy for you to dismiss their efforts because you don't know what is going on here, so let me shed some light on this.

Things do pop up that impact scheduling, and as hard as the team works, sometimes even working overtime is not enough to release on schedule. There are also only so many hours in a day, and for the good of the game sometimes a build has to be delayed.

The Live Team has been working evenings and weekends for a long time now. They have been working 7 days a week. Linsey has even stayed at the office overnight on several occasions, pulling more all nighters on this than any other project she's been involved with. She hasn't had a day off in a long while.

I hope this gives you a better understanding.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

By gum, Linsey deserves a spa treatment and big bottle of her favourite tipple after this one.

Anyone who displays a rampant lack of empathy for this amount of work going into this update is nothing but an over-entitled whiney jerk.

Staying overnight at work? That's all sorts of wrong.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride View Post
Yeah and so will Christmas. Your point being?
Who cares if it comes Christmas or next year? Most people have finished the game and just waiting on GW2 it has no bearing on any except those who are still struggling with the most grindy of titles.

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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride View Post
I mean, really, it's not difficult (and no, what i'm about to say is not up for debate), to keep to a schedule for such a company.
Its software engineering not a car factory where you can just turn the knob up on the assembly line and have unskilled labor work a few extra hours to increase productivity. Some programming issues are complex and just take time to figure out.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar View Post
Staying overnight at work? That's all sorts of wrong.
People doing their jobs? INCONCEIVABLE!

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

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Originally Posted by Zinger314 View Post
People doing their jobs? INCONCEIVABLE!
This is 2008, not 1808.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke View Post
oh btw...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina
November Update of Doom - 10 November 2008

There's been a lot of talk in the forums and elsewhere about the upcoming game update later this week. Linsey and the rest of the Live Team have been working extremely hard on this for weeks, often working long hours. To try and illustrate this, Linsey mentioned on the wiki that the update notes were going to be pretty long this week -- though the rumour mill incorrectly interpeted her words to mean that this would be the biggest game update ever. The Live Team is working flat out this week to prepare for the build. This week looks like it will be full of nights of long hours for our QA team, who need to comb through the game to check that every single detail works the way it should. Linsey herself was here working very hard over the weekend. Myself and other members of the Live Team just had a meeting a short while ago. The amount of testing work that needs to go into this build is pretty sizeable, and they're warning me that it's possible that they may delay the build. Obviously, delaying the build past its scheduled date of November 13 isn't something they want to do in ideal circumstances, but they also want to make sure that they don't miss any details. I'm just posting to let you know that there is a chance that the build may be delayed. I will try and keep you all updated here.
let the lulz begin
Anet,late on an update?

Holy penis,what a scoop.

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

From Regina Buenaobra's page

November update of Doom..

Now that's not a headline to inspire confidence lol.. Although I trust you

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride View Post
Yeah and so will Christmas. Your point being?

I mean, really, it's not difficult (and no, what i'm about to say is not up for debate), to keep to a schedule for such a company.

Something pops up? You work overtime on it. That's how it works in every other job.
I don't have much to say on this matter, but some of you are really acting like pompous asses. When did the community here descend to this level of cretiness? Most of you act like you don't even care about the game, yet you all still regularly post here, which either makes you hypocrites or sad 20-something year old losers with no lives.

I'd honestly find it hilarious if all of you were banned, just to see you all cry over a game you supposedly don't even care about.

(this isn't directed soley at you Pwny Ride, but you are a shining example).

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

Come on folks. Give the teams credit for trying. They work hard only to have a bunch of people wine and cry because it is not to their liking. Unfortunately, not everyone can be pleased. So I say this to the teams working so hard and long...
You can not please everyone all the time, there is always going to be someone who doesn't appreciate all you try to do for them. So take a day off, spend time with the wife/husband/kids etc... let them know you still care and forget about the rest of the world for a day or two. You deserve it.
I will admit i look forward to the updates, but I do not have to have them to function. So if an update is a bit later then anticipated, oh well, maybe the next day or the next week. So once again, for those working on the update, take a break and give the brain a break.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
It's easy for you to dismiss their efforts because you don't know what is going on here, so let me shed some light on this.

Things do pop up that impact scheduling, and as hard as the team works, sometimes even working overtime is not enough to release on schedule. There are also only so many hours in a day, and for the good of the game sometimes a build has to be delayed.

The Live Team has been working evenings and weekends for a long time now. They have been working 7 days a week. Linsey has even stayed at the office overnight on several occasions, pulling more all nighters on this than any other project she's been involved with. She hasn't had a day off in a long while.

I hope this gives you a better understanding.
Although I don't know how much work goes into coding, as I've never done it, I have attempted coding, and I must say that seeing constant repeating of 1's and 0's is annoying. But I doubt that's all programmers do, sure there are words, but it must get annoyingly repetitive.

And pulling all nighters several occasions. Dear dear, I petition we put in money to get Linsey a spa trip. I suppose the other Live Teams, but mainly Linsey because we love her.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

The update is so big because were finally getting the Dungeons on Factions and Nightfall that we have been waiting for.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Ahh I was thinking it was being updated tomorrow lol, but it's the day after that. Crap that sucks lol.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind View Post
When did the community here descend to this level of cretiness?
They've always been here, they're just louder now because the ones with any shred of humanity, decency or maturity gave up debating with the undebatable. Hence a large sucking void was left, which was eagerly filled by those who thought they "won" because they shout the loudest.

Those of us left trying to inject fact, empathy and reason into the discussion are...probably suckers for punishment , but there's always hope that we can change the internet into a better place for all.

Quote:
The update is so big because were finally getting the Dungeons on Factions and Nightfall that we have been waiting for.
And this is how stupid rumours start.

Paloma Song

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

[JM]

Rt/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar View Post
This is 2008, not 1808.
Oh come on. Jobs are voluntary. If the job isn't worth the money, quit. Everyone knows the game industry is competitive and time-consuming. If you really want a job in that field, you do whatever it takes, or you find another job. You don't whine about it. Ofc, they're not here whining. They're too busy to whine - they're working for a living, which I realize not everyone here has ever had to do.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Regarding my earlier post, I said I was 'hoping' for some skill updates, not that I was definately demanding or expecting them.

But I would be highly surprised if an update that is meant to be this big didnt have any skill updates.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paloma Song View Post
Oh come on. Jobs are voluntary. If the job isn't worth the money, quit. Everyone knows the game industry is competitive and time-consuming. If you really want a job in that field, you do whatever it takes, or you find another job. You don't whine about it. Ofc, they're not here whining. They're too busy to whine - they're working for a living, which I realize not everyone here has ever had to do.
Now that's a very institutionalized, and male, response (even if you're not a male yourself, I don't know). Can't stand the heat? GTFO. No, that's NOT fair - enjoying your life is about enjoying your job; one shouldn't have to chuck it in just because you disagree with the hours.

There's plenty to be said for work-life balance, avoiding burnout, and for women it should be about being ABLE to have families and be made welcome and comfortable within a previously male dominated industry.

What would you prefer to have: an employee who works steadily and well over many years within a comfortable enviroment, or someone who works themselves to the bone and burns out within months? As far as long term productivity goes, I'd rather have the happier employee. Having to replace someone every few months, or year, can be even more restrictive to timetables as you have to bring the new employee up to speed.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Working on a computer game - sitting in a chair and typing - is a demanding job?

Get a sleeping bag in your office, lots of red bull and go go go!

Now if they were actually working a physically difficult job like construction or shelf stacking, working evenings and weekends 7 days a week would become impossible. They have a pish easy job they can spend all day working on it if they want people playing their game, every other game developer does just that without complaining.

Anet employees sound like they would be useless in my supermarket stacking shelves.