Is GW Really Losing People?

Because I think its really crowded. o_O I dunno why my friends say that its losing people... its right behind WoW and ahead of a lot of MMOs. :P

And its really fun and free! XD

WoW has 11 million subscribers. GW has what, less than 2 million people that even play?

Guild Wars is losing people, it has been for a long time now. It's a dying game.

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no, you are mistaken

that's pretty generous imo

i think its losing 2 kinds of people.

1.The 30 max titles, Choas gloves, FoW epeen types who are "too good" for such a "fail" game the ones who say "blah blah blah i remember when a 20/20 sword hilt was 75K" "GW is Dead"

I think the economy in GW is more stable than ever.

2.New people who are shut out by people group #1 "you dont have the cookie cutter build and therefore you cant get in our PuG or team arenas group cause all we care about is glad points"

Haha.

GW in its peak had ~3, maybe ~4 million people.

WoW has almost 12 million currently active subscribers.

It is kinda funny that people say GW is dying when I see new people playing all the time. Guild Wars was made to play then put away then pick up and play again. Sure there are many that have left. And many of those have come back. I can't speak for other guilds, but mine has been going strong since 2006. Sure some have left, but we have more people playing on a consistant basis than we did in the beginning. Truely I believe what keeps people around and playing is the people that they play with.

Oh, they're losing a lot of people.

They're losing PvP players who are tired of this unbalanced game. They're losing old players who are sick of ANet dumbing down the game. They're losing old players who are sick of ANet catering to the bad players who think they deserve everything. They're losing PvE players because of the lack of end game content. They're losing PvE players because of the lack of new content.

I can go on, but you get the point. They're losing all kinds of players, and right now there's nothing they can do about it.

Still FlamingMetroid, GW is still successful.

Warhammer online only has (last published figure) 750,000 people, and that is spread accross like 15 servers, and that game is considred a moderate success.

Many more MMOs fail today then they succeed. A.net is far above the level required to be a "failure," after all, apparently it has made a profit, something many games fail to do. It fact, its the biggest money maker in the entire NCSoft franchise according to quarterly reports.

Comparing ANY MMO style game to WoW for numbers is just dumb.
That's like saying Batman Begins is a bad movie because Star Wars (adjusting for inflation) made like 10 times as much money. They were both succesful, its just not "fair" to judge success as the same thing as "being one of the most successful of all time."

only because they already have our money imo

the people who think GW is dying are the ones responsible for its death
play and have fun people.

There are more people quitting than there are joining and staying. It's dying.

It's been out for less than 2 months and it has almost a quarter of the players Guild Wars ever had.

No, the fact that almost every single person who worked on Guild Wars 1 is working on Guild Wars 2, the lack of new content, the poor balance, and the amount of people quitting is responsible for its death. People who are saying it's dying are just being honest and accepting the fact.

That doesn't mean it stops costing them money to run their severs 24/7. And they are STILL turning a profit every quarter, which means enough new people (or people buying new expansions/accounts) for them to cover expenses.

While they may be on a decline since it is an older game after all, I'd never judge GW as anything other then a phenominal, unexpected success.

Edit: And if you go on any Warhammer boards Arkonas you will already see "OMG Warhammer is dying" posts on their boards too!!! They are having a mini exodus as the 30 day free subscription has expired and many people did not renew. Honestly, boards are melodramatic. GW has been dying since 2005, just like Warhammer is apparently already dying. Get over it.

I agree. I don't think ANet knew the game would be as successful as it was, and they didn't/couldn't handle it properly. This is where Guild Wars 2 comes in. Hopefully they've learned from their mistakes, and hopefully they can make and manage a good game.

People have been saying it's dying since 2005, but did they have any evidence to show that it was dying? Right now, it is dying, and there is evidence. Everything dies, and Guild Wars' time is coming.

The game is dying, get over it.

yeah when factions came out hardcore people said GW was dead.

I think GW is waning(spelling?) in popularity. but it has given me continued enjoyment and i will buy and play GW2 when it comes out. My bro in-law's brother works for A-net so i'll support it regardless. He's pretty ftw lol

This is the thing about GW. There was 4 million sales, but that does in NO way represent a number of players. Being fair, there was probably over a million at most, but not many more.

Now, I guarantee there's probably no more than 300k active players. Saying that the game is still quite active is incorrect for the following reasons;

a) Event weekends bring in MORE players than any other time
b) Certain towns are always full, almost all the others are always empty
c) PvP has almost no players as well, as you can notice by the number of active high ranked guilds, and number of districts in HA

Finally, the most important thing to take into account, is who is posting these threads. For the most part, it is players who are in active guilds, and active alliances. Just because you have 10 guilds in an alliance with hundreds of VERY active players, doesn't mean this can transfer and apply to the rest of the community. In fact it's the opposite. Zone to almost any town in any chapter, and there will be less than 20 people in the district.

That != active game.

Of the 12 million WoW subscribers, half are gold farmers.

Guild Wars most likely has 150-200k players on at peak hours on a weekend, 300k during peak of Halloween and Christmas (Christmas might be even a bit more, MAYBE).

WoW rains supreme, but that is because it is WoW.

Yes, Guild Wars is dying, but GW2 is on the way. ArenaNet realized the game was on a downward spiral. I am personally surprised it lasted this long to be quite honest. Impressive for a game that wasn't designed for continuous play.

i think this is the main reason that Utopia as never released. would have prolonged the torture and delayed GW2 too long.

imo EoTN was just a way to wrap up all of the in game content that was left over and rejected for other campaigns and give players something to do until GW2 came out, but not enough content made it so that people didn't spend much time finishing everything.

if you wanna keep playing, get in an active guild/alliance. if not, don't play and dont troll the games forums please

Edit: sry rahja not directed at you, just trolling in general, i know for a fact there is trolls on guru that havent played except an hour here and there who troll just for the +1 on the forums

I think you totally missed the concept of being a moderator. Sure, I keep adbots at bay, and help people. But... let's be honest... the big black letters basically translate to "Troll". So, thanks, but I think I will keep up my work around here, Inde would be mad if we didn't do our jobs.

I don't want to know where you are pulling those numbers from, but I bet it smells.

i know it sounds wrong, but that actually seems to be pretty correct, its maybe a little low but true. In the last month there are no more that probabily 500k people who have played, maybe on popular months 750K
im sure anet was expecting this to happen, with GW2 on the horizion why play this game.
But as we get close to the release of GW2 i think more and more people will start coming back.