Thursday November 13, 2008 - update notes - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Amnel Ithtirsol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

Mo/

14 Nov 2008 at 11:24 - 281

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cab Tastic

Isn't that a bit like me deciding to set up a preservation society to protect the Dodo?

I lol'd

SF is fine in it's current form though.
(I need to farm to buy me grogg for drunkard harrr.... )

so wait, ANet. nerf it next year please

Eldrene

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

14 Nov 2008 at 11:36 - 282

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phenixfire

Wow, again, ANet fails....

Vanquishing rewards .. lol? i suspect you kill like 300-400 enemies per zone (non retroactive again ... me, who vanquished everything, didnt get anything again ... thx for that.. damaging the "title-economy" again?), which would make it a 15oo-2ooo points per area, which is approx 1-2hrs work ... lol? getting that with hfff took me like 6 minutes. That much for wasting time, eh? Please take a break....

And there i thought that multiplying by 50 isnt that hard. Apparently u cant do it. FYI:
300 * 50 = 15000
400 * 50 = 20000
dont know if the bounties still apply given out by L/K priests. If they do, its and extra 20, and 250 for bosses. In case u cant do times 20 multiplication, here it is:
300 * 20 = 6000
400 * 20 = 8000
But like i said, i dont know if this was a replacement or an addition. In any case, U TAKE A BREAK from GW and learn maths

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

14 Nov 2008 at 11:38 - 283

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyber88

Okies. *notes to mods* if u dun RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like my post, tell me. Don't do a shinobi & stealth kill my post so many times.

The update is an epic failz. Since as someone pointed that all posts with epic fail got deleted & he thanks God for it. I will say why it is an epic failz.

When Linsey said that she can assure players that the new methods of gaining factions is much more efficient then HFFF. After a few rounds of testing (when ABing, doing some competitive missions, vanq, etc) which is the boosted form of faction gaining. Nothing, I REPEAT, NOTHING comes close to gaining factions as efficient as HFFF(maybe for the lux but definately not kurz).

This was one of the main issues Anet is supposed to address. instead, they made it worse.

Thank God for epic failz update (as usual)

The only thing I believe which is thankful is for the HARD work, NOT GOOD work.

QQ more? And yes, vanqushing DOES give you more faction than HFFF.

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

14 Nov 2008 at 11:44 - 284

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissy

VQ an area with 200+ enemies in less than 35 minutes (or 300+ enemies in less than 50 minutes) and you should match the old HFFF rate. Add to that the bonuses from the shrine blessing for each kill/boss and you're well ahead of the old HFFF.

Are you saying that isn't the case? Or is it just that you suck at PvE/VQing? Or did you simply lie about trying a vanquish?

Yes vanq gives more points than HFFF but wait ..... 200+ enemies in less than 35min on HM ? Wooah ! u get them all in line and use a sniper or what ? killing 7+ enemies per min . Dude we got Terminator here !

but yes , u can vanq a 220 foes area within 50min , thats the normal rate so it would give a hell lot of points .

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

W/

14 Nov 2008 at 11:48 - 285

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They decided not to allow people to pay to add pages because they were concerned about the negative effects on the economy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cab Tastic

Isn't that a bit like me deciding to set up a preservation society to protect the Dodo?

Lol, /wins the thread!

Now give us our retroactive rewards Anet! *shakes fist angrily*

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Nov 2008 at 11:50 - 286

Great update!

Lost a bit of bonus Kurzick faction, because I happened to be doing Luxon territory at the moment, but no biggy. I'm actually happy to re-do the missions, it's been a while for most of them. Looking forward to absorbing more of this update later today, but I haven't spotted anything that I expect to be upset by.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

14 Nov 2008 at 11:52 - 287

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Yes vanq gives more points than HFFF but wait ..... 200+ enemies in less than 35min on HM ? Wooah ! u get them all in line and use a sniper or what ? killing 7+ enemies per min . Dude we got Terminator here !

but yes , u can vanq a 220 foes area within 50min , thats the normal rate so it would give a hell lot of points .

Actually it's not at all difficult to kill 7+ enemies per minute. In fact it's pretty easy, you just need the right skill bars to do it.

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Nov 2008 at 11:56 - 288

Now if Anet is gonna do something about Shadowform, this game might get interesting again...

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

14 Nov 2008 at 12:03 - 289

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Yes vanq gives more points than HFFF but wait ..... 200+ enemies in less than 35min on HM ? Wooah ! u get them all in line and use a sniper or what ? killing 7+ enemies per min . Dude we got Terminator here !

but yes , u can vanq a 220 foes area within 50min , thats the normal rate so it would give a hell lot of points

When I did my VQ titles, 200 in 35 minutes, or 300 in 50 minutes... was generally not that difficult. Even if it took longer, you'd still be ahead vs HFFF, due to shrine bonuses per kill/boss.

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

14 Nov 2008 at 12:07 - 290

HFFF got owned

and finally the faction cap got raised

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

14 Nov 2008 at 12:23 - 291

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissy

When I did my VQ titles, 200 in 35 minutes, or 300 in 50 minutes... was generally not that difficult. Even if it took longer, you'd still be ahead vs HFFF, due to shrine bonuses per kill/boss.

Like i said i agree with you but 200 in 35min doesnt happen in ALL zones , u cant state it like a fact and u know it . It depends on the zone and if u have speed boosts , sometimes its 220 foes 40min and sometimes its 196 1h and 5mins due to nature of the zone or missing patrols or whatever . I guess the 50x<foe number> only happens at the end of the Vanq so its only a matter of time that ppl find a short area with a lot of foes for an easy vanq+faction reward.

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

14 Nov 2008 at 12:24 - 292

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They decided not to allow people to pay to add pages because they were concerned about the negative effects on the economy.

IMO

If ANET was concerned about the negative effects on the economy, the log in screen would say..

Gold Buyers/Sellers will be Perma Banned...

Not

If you get caught buying Gold, you cant play for a few days and were going to take back the 10 stacks of ecto you just bought.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

14 Nov 2008 at 12:25 - 293

I laughed when reading her latest entry in her wiki discussion page:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linsey

Funny you should mentioned this today. Tolkano is being added to all the AB outposts in today's (hopefully not delayed) Live build. Way ahead of you buddy. Cuz I'm just THAT good. ~_^

There are tons of very positive comments over there, it's very nice to see she'll get some direct rewards from the community (I guess Regina is also gathering that from fansites), if only it wasn't that horrible wiki discussion interface...

D8tura

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Nov 2008 at 12:30 - 294

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

WTB: Bookshelf

Pretty please may we have one????? I like the completed golum manual but had to delete it because it was too much to have one on each character. If i had a storage option i'd go run to the cave to get a new copy to put in my bookcase/bookshelf etc... Same with Zho's journal - i'd like to keep it when completed and not have to delete it. This would be awesome!!!

LOL i guess "I have many leather bound books" FINALLY does mean that

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

14 Nov 2008 at 12:41 - 295

For those of you crunching the VQ numbers, here's a small piece of actual data: I vanquished Ferndale in 57 minutes (had a delay or two along the way.) I ended up killing 244 foes (7 bosses). When you add up the bounty from the blessing with the reward for completing the VQ, that's 70 faction per kill normal foes, and 300 per boss kill: (237*70 = 16,590) + (7*300 = 2,100) = 18,690 faction. At 18K faction per hour, it will take a person 277.8 hours to get from start to finish on the title.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

14 Nov 2008 at 12:42 - 296

So what happened to the big HoM update? Account wide titles yadayadayada.

Is it just me or did they only make 2 titles account wide? And not one update to the HoM mechanics. Its not going to do much to my HoM. /yawn

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

14 Nov 2008 at 12:45 - 297

I'm confused. The update says that if you don't have a book with you the NPC will fill in the pages. Or does that only become available after the update and not for what happened before?

If it is the case that you can't buy pages for missions already completed I want to add my comments to those protesting the fact you can't buy pages. Those of us who invested time and energy getting the mission titles should be able to get the books filled. Ok, perhaps you could increase the cost of buying pages so that the net money benefit wouldn't be that high for a period of weeks, but otherwise it seems very unfair to me - we should get the non-money benefits at the very least!

As others have said, if you're worried about the economy kill off the SF farming.

Also I would support giving the faction bonus depending on what alliance guild you're in. I.e. if you're in a Kurzick guild you get your Kurzick bonus. Then when you join a Luxon one you get your Luxon bonus. Or simply suspend the penalty that means you lose faction from one allegiance when you cash in that from another.

D8tura

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Nov 2008 at 12:46 - 298

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkateFreek

I don't see how this makes it less grindy.
K/L are now basicly pve wtf?

For people like me who don't give two S***s for AB other than to occasionally fight there for fun and not feel you have to grind in that damn place this is VERY nice. To tie pve only skills to a title and not give good options in pve to get ranks in them was horrible. Now the people who don't like to ab until they think they will go insane have options.....

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

14 Nov 2008 at 12:56 - 299

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykan

So what happened to the big HoM update? Account wide titles yadayadayada.

Is it just me or did they only make 2 titles account wide? And not one update to the HoM mechanics. Its not going to do much to my HoM. /yawn

Anet never said a lot titles would be promoted to account-wide. They implemented what they told us: treasure hunter and wisdom to be account-wide. Everythig else was just your standard Guru GIMME GIMME GIMME in forms of "make all titles account-wide" which is just r... ridiculous.

Okay, retarded.

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

14 Nov 2008 at 12:59 - 300

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Maybe you should have, because 50*400 = 20000, not 2000.

So the person I quoted had the amounts wrong. However, that's for vanquishing. It just looks like there's less for people who don't like hard mode. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff there. It just (at first glance) seems to be geared towards the hardcore gamers who love hardmode. Unless you want to run the same effing missions over and over again.

Maybe the AB changes can get me back in there again. I used to really enjoy that a lot. Still a long way from 10 million though. and thinking about that just makes it feel like...grind.

OS T

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/E

14 Nov 2008 at 13:00 - 301

wow.I must say...ive been waiting for this exciting update a long time now,but what did I get..well..2account based titles which are really good...but about the kurzick title,did anet think thru this before they implemented it....they nerf hff and they add more books..gg on anet..is like I gotta do all missions in cantha and stuff to obtain kurzick faction...and about the bounty for kurzick..srsly?so basically they added 2 account based titles and they make kurzick/luxon more grinding..like wtf..and it seems this update is more about kurzick/luxon,must be the baddest update in gw history in my opinion....thoughts anyone?

L|S >+>+G+<+<

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

14 Nov 2008 at 13:05 - 302

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

They cheated on the "Longest Update Ever." Did we have to know EVERY quest updated? Just saying "updated a bunch of quests" would have worked.

It wouldn't have worked.

I have lost count of the amount of threads I have seen requesting anet to say what the updates were....

People like you prolly make anet think they can't win what ever they do :/

On the subject of the updates, I think they're pretty cool.
Been playing this for well over 2 years and this is the best update imo.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

14 Nov 2008 at 13:05 - 303

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyxa

wow.I must say...ive been waiting for this exciting update a long time now,but what did I get..well..2account based titles which are really good...but about the kurzick title,did anet think thru this before they implemented it....they nerf hff and they add more books..gg on anet..is like I gotta do all missions in cantha and stuff to obtain kurzick faction...and about the bounty for kurzick..srsly?so basically they added 2 account based titles and they make kurzick/luxon more grinding..like wtf..and it seems this update is more about kurzick/luxon,must be the baddest update in gw history in my opinion....thoughts anyone?

Here's a thought:

Instead of flagging heroes and botting for faction we can now play and gain big amounts of faction while playing.

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

14 Nov 2008 at 13:06 - 304

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano

I'm confused. The update says that if you don't have a book with you the NPC will fill in the pages. Or does that only become available after the update and not for what happened before?

If it is the case that you can't buy pages for missions already completed I want to add my comments to those protesting the fact you can't buy pages. Those of us who invested time and energy getting the mission titles should be able to get the books filled. Ok, perhaps you could increase the cost of buying pages so that the net money benefit wouldn't be that high for a period of weeks, but otherwise it seems very unfair to me - we should get the non-money benefits at the very least!

+1 . Or even 0 gain , just the faction reward . If u get points now for completing the missions with extra u should be able to fill the books with the NPC .

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

14 Nov 2008 at 13:06 - 305

Wow. That update sure seems to do a lot for making Vanquishing more appealing, and also Challenge missions to a certain extent. Mission replayability is also going to go back with the introduction of books to each storyline, so it shouldn't be as hard to get groups in missions for a while.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

14 Nov 2008 at 13:09 - 306

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano

If it is the case that you can't buy pages for missions already completed I want to add my comments to those protesting the fact you can't buy pages. Those of us who invested time and energy getting the mission titles should be able to get the books filled. Ok, perhaps you could increase the cost of buying pages so that the net money benefit wouldn't be that high for a period of weeks, but otherwise it seems very unfair to me - we should get the non-money benefits at the very least!

We shall all start petitions so that GW1 revolves entirely around ME, ME and ME, what I do, what I think and what I want. My time and energy is much more important than the time and energy that people will spend now on new books. And as everyone knows, time works both ways and we can simply ask Anet to reverse time and see what I did, and give me credit for it. I mean, I paid for this!

OS T

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/E

14 Nov 2008 at 13:16 - 307

its like anet forces ppl who are going for the title do vanq,and the books,its like dont we have enuf books in gw already,primaris,dungeons,mox+and now missions. People shouldnt be forced to do missions and vanq to get more faction for the title....its the biggest crappyiest update ever,thats what I think...I dont really care,I dont need the title so,but it sucks for other ppl.

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

14 Nov 2008 at 13:20 - 308

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyxa

its like anet forces ppl who are going for the title do vanq,and the books,its like dont we have enuf books in gw already,primaris,dungeons,mox+and now missions. People shouldnt be forced to do missions and vanq to get more faction for the title....its the biggest crappyiest update ever,thats what I think...I dont really care,I dont need the title so,but it sucks for other ppl.

Anet does not force people to do anything. The only thing which was changed is that instead of planting flags for kurzick people would have to play the game by doing missions or vanquishes to get them. The SS/LB gaining possibilities were increased same for Gwen titles. There is absolutely no need to have a single book in this game. It is just an option. This update will also fill in the mission outposts a bit. So what is your problem there?

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

14 Nov 2008 at 13:26 - 309

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Like i said i agree with you but 200 in 35min doesnt happen in ALL zones , u cant state it like a fact and u know it

Learn to read please. I did NOT say "in every area you can VQ 200 enemies in under 35 minutes".

I said IF you can VQ an area of 200+ enemies in under 35 minutes, you're ahead of the old HFFF from the VQ alone. This IS a fact. I can state it like a fact, and I know it.

Some areas are indeed harder than others but generally, it's not that difficult to VQ at such a rate. And in any case even if it's a slower area, you're still likely to come out ahead of HFFF.

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

14 Nov 2008 at 13:28 - 310

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

We shall all start petitions so that GW1 revolves entirely around ME, ME and ME, what I do, what I think and what I want. My time and energy is much more important than the time and energy that people will spend now on new books. And as everyone knows, time works both ways and we can simply ask Anet to reverse time and see what I did, and give me credit for it. I mean, I paid for this!

Fril, your attitude has always been that of supporting A.net in everything they did, and to shut down every kind of criticism from the community.
All that comes from A.net is pure gold for you, and every time you start a new crusade against those who criticize, contempting them in a very bothering way.

I'm just disappointed from this update, because A.net spent a lot of work and time in it, and they basically failed in addressing the real issue of Kurzick/Luxon titles and gwamm, which is the absurd amount of grind required.

In my opinion, they wasted their precious time.

And I have no reason to QQ, because I have r12 kurzick and gwamm. I know the meaning of grind.
Nevertheless, I disagree with their work, they put a lot of effort in it, introduced several new things, but they didn't address the real problems.

Few things are let's say nice, but they didn't substantially change anything, so it's a pity for so much time and work wasted.

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

14 Nov 2008 at 13:37 - 311

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

I don't think I've seen a more retarded post. Saying 'epic failz' over and over doesn't make you cool. In fact it makes you look illiterate and stupid, which I'm guessing you are. As for the update, this DOES make it more efficient than HFFF. Doing a vanquish gets you huge amounts of faction, with no effort and in no time.

If your post was deleted once, why repost it. Clearly it wasn't worth posting in the first place, which is blatantly obvious by the content.

Beat me to the reply, but said what I was thinking. As for the update, for a player of mundane ability such as myself, I say thanks for the long hours it must have taken you all. Good job.

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

14 Nov 2008 at 13:54 - 312

re: no paying to fill in pages like the eotn books....my metaphorical balls, they break! my main is a few tyrian missions away from legendary guardian, and my 9 other chars have already completed all 3 campaigns. the hell if i'm doing all that again just for some gold.

otherwise, freaking awesome update =D

lustnlood

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Me/

14 Nov 2008 at 13:58 - 313

ok... my thoughts ... thank you ANET. you actually made it possible for me to find pve interesting again... im not really interested in faction tbh but its just an opinion but i have to say its a cool addition.

as for all the retarded dumb shits. thank god they did the update maybe your true colours start showing.. many gw players are so retarded that they can even play pve decently. thanks to this you can forget playing with your omg i have no talent or skill style and start LEARNING to play the way it should be.

so.... 1 sentence for omg imba no skill noobies:

F*** off and DIE! owned B*******

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

14 Nov 2008 at 14:02 - 314

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abnaxus

Fril, your attitude has always been that of supporting A.net in everything they did, and to shut down every kind of criticism from the community.

No it's not, on both accounts. What puts me off is people coming here with this "I-complex" that because I (or me and my friends) did this or that, I should have this or that. But it's been a very long while since someone called me fanboy! ;P

I didn't like the move to the new community management system (both the new CM and the wiki discussions), I didn't like and still don't like the grind, I don't like their lack of support for PvP (despite not playing PvP), I dislike how they've only put the brilliant Linsey alone in charge of redesigning GW1 while moving all ressources to GW2, I don't like to have to wait so long for GW2 info (but I'm patient). But there're much more things that I dislike on the part of our community (I'm not perfect and deserve criticisms whenever you see reason to voice one, but that is not one). And I do like this update, as a few people said here it's nice and it shows things are moving the right way.

I don't like whining and moaning on Guru, and I try not to do that, but instead create interesting and "positive" discussions. But this time, for this comment, I wanted to voice my opinion, which is my right.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

14 Nov 2008 at 14:22 - 315

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abnaxus

Fril, your attitude has always been that of supporting A.net in everything they did, and to shut down every kind of criticism from the community.
All that comes from A.net is pure gold for you, and every time you start a new crusade against those who criticize, contempting them in a very bothering way.

Fril Estelin as fanboi? Oh boy, did I miss something? Was he dragged to Anet HQ and brainwashed? Did aliens do that?

It's only natural that people crusade against community members that ruin thread by drowning legitimate complaints in their self centered whining.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

R/

14 Nov 2008 at 14:22 - 316

Hello

I currently have 26 maxed titles, on my main charcter which is a female ranger, i got all the protector, guardian and vanquisher titles , to include the cartographer titles, just need 4 more titles maxed for my 30 maxed god walking amonag mere mortals, i can see the benefit of treasure hunter, and wisdom being account based, that definetly helpd me alot on possibly having a chance a maxing those 2 titles, but in what way this update benifit me, how would fillling up books help me out, i already put in the tidiuos hours of grinding, areas for my titles, while others will have it easier, i have been sitting on 26 maxed titles for a year, and still working on my last 4 titles, i be seriously lucky if i can get them before Gw 2 comes out, what is in it for me, and what about all those who got there god walking among mere mortals before even me, how are they benifiting from these, seems to me Areanet is trying to safe the game, and not lose players, before Gw2 comesout, they would be better off with another expansion or bonus mission pack.

SNIEVES

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dumfries, Virginia, USA

Happy guild moor

R/

14 Nov 2008 at 14:27 - 317

Hello

I currently have 26 maxed titles, on my main charcter which is a female ranger, i got all the protector, guardian and vanquisher titles , to include the cartographer titles, just need 4 more titles maxed for my 30 maxed god walking amonag mere mortals, i can see the benefit of treasure hunter, and wisdom being account based, that definetly helpd me alot on possibly having a chance a maxing those 2 titles, but in what way this update benifit me, how would fillling up books help me out, i already put in the tidiuos hours of grinding, areas for my titles, while others will have it easier, i have been sitting on 26 maxed titles for a year, and still working on my last 4 titles, i be seriously lucky if i can get them before Gw 2 comes out, what is in it for me, and what about all those who got there god walking among mere mortals before even me, how are they benifiting from these, seems to me Areanet is trying to safe the game, and not lose players, before Gw2 comesout, they would be better off with another expansion or bonus mission pack.

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

14 Nov 2008 at 14:28 - 318

Funny ppl that complain about ppl being selfish .... its not about that , its about getting the same credit for the SAME work that other ppl can do from now on. Is it fair that someone got Leg Guardian 1 week ago doesnt get anything and someone that achieves that title on December should get lots of rep ? dont think so .
For the Haters , is not my case ^.^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hissy

Learn to read please. I did NOT say "in every area you can VQ 200 enemies in under 35 minutes".
I said IF you can VQ an area of 200+ enemies in under 35 minutes, you're ahead of the old HFFF from the VQ alone. This IS a fact. I can state it like a fact, and I know it.

LoL first chill and LEARN TO READ and comprehend, i agreed that VQ is ahead of the old HFFF and never said that it wasnt like that so stop trying to make a point there against me. You stated 200+ foes under 35min like a fact against the other guy and its over. Ofc u didnt say that was in EVERY area ..... its like you dont say 4 but instead say 1,2,3...5,6. 200+ could be 220 or 290 , and under 35mins can be 34mins or 29. Accuracy.com

Bleh nvm , nonsense answer , i wont reply u anymore , already made my point long ago.

Spyda Prince

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

[DL] Desolation Lords

E/R

14 Nov 2008 at 14:31 - 319

Great update anet, and for the I, I, I, Me, ME, Me not fair i did the hard way, its not about u, its about the game so stop crying

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

14 Nov 2008 at 14:32 - 320

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

We shall all start petitions so that GW1 revolves entirely around ME, ME and ME, what I do, what I think and what I want. My time and energy is much more important than the time and energy that people will spend now on new books. And as everyone knows, time works both ways and we can simply ask Anet to reverse time and see what I did, and give me credit for it. I mean, I paid for this!

Ok, this is what I hate about these forums - the repeated attempts at censorship by certain people whenever there is criticism of ANet.

I DID buy this game so I have a RIGHT to complain. If you don't like that, move to China where criticism is dealt with by arrest and re-education. If you want to stay put in the free world, learn to deal with POV that you don't agree with.

More importantly I am NOT THE ONLY PERSON to raise the issue. When does a part of the community get big enough to ever have the right to complain about something in your book - when you're included?