April Update Anticipation thread

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

personally after reviewing hallomik's quotes of Linsey i am not expecting anything good from this update the best i am expecting is dye storage and making the belt pouch hold 10 instead of 5 and that's it. it was foolish of me to think other wise.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Jones View Post
i really don't get why people think that monument has to have weapons that are "expensive" in it.
The Monument of Valor is meant to have "prestige" weapons, not "any weapon I use." However, from Linsey a while back:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsey Murdock's talk page
why dose prestige = expensive?, and why cant there be a generic green weapon monument?75.172.44.33 22:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Zodiac is only missing a spear and scythe though, isn't it? Surely those wouldn't be the hardest things to program? I suggested a few months ago basically making a new type of zodiac weapon, basically bigger or with a different colour scheme or throwing a few extra gems on them, and calling them greater zodiac weapons which are inscribable and from a collector in exchange for something gained from doing the elite faction missions, say 30 Urgoz gems and 30 Deep gems per weapon, might be an idea. But then that might be an awful lot of effort. As it would mean reskinning existing weapons, adding 2 new ones, adding a collector and adding some form of collectable drop from the end chest. Also to answer the IP, as mostly green weapons arent in set format and their is way too many to even start considering what could be added and what shouldn't. -- Salome 22:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
75.172.44.33: from dictionary.com "prestige: reputation or influence arising from success, achievement, rank, or other favorable attributes." It's not a stretch that prestige in games would be equated with rarity which in most games comes hand in hand with expense. The reason we can't use generic green weapons is because there are hundreds of them.
Salome: Getting a Zodiac Spear and Scythe isn't about the programming. I don't want to do a major overhaul of the rewards in The Deep and Urgoz. With a few tweaks it should reinforce the existing system. Also, getting the kind of art resources you guys keep talking about is difficult. If I got that kind of art time, I would rather use it for something bigger and new instead of making changes to these areas. - Linsey <small>talk</small> 22:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit: Source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...ons_to_the_HoM

The forth fly

The forth fly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

england

Mo/

its gonna be crap,it will be a bit more storage that's all

-Makai-

-Makai-

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

WA

DH

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
A buff for Ritualists to make more skills worthwhile in PvE.

Heh, I don't expect it, just that it would be nice.
Unless another one of our beaten brothers or sisters has chimed in, I second this motion!

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

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Originally Posted by Sante_Kelm View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk View Post
A buff for Ritualists to make more skills worthwhile in PvE.

Heh, I don't expect it, just that it would be nice.
Unless another one of our beaten brothers or sisters has chimed in, I second this motion!
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...6&postcount=66

When replying to a discussion about Spawning Power on her talk page, Linsey said,

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Heh thanks. I'm trying to keep up with my wiki and I'm really strict with myself about reading all of a discussion before responding (usually reading it a couple times by the time I respond), but man I do not look forward to reading this lol. You won't mind if I don't read it, do you? I'll just keep in mind that spawning power might like to get looked at. - Image:User Linsey Murdock sig.jpgLinsey talk 03:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah... It's not that Linsey's one of my most disliked devs of all time or something but the lack of enthusiasm in this post (along with the ham-fisted way of doing skill balances lately. Read: "All your non-____ skills are disabled for 10 seconds.") just leads me to believe that maybe they just can't balance a hybrid (healer/buffer) / summoner class.

If that's the case, it's off to WoW for me!

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

I wish that the weaps you put in could be customized to your whole acc and you could pick them up from your hall....not gonna happen but would b sweet

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Add a "Personal Closet" tab to the storage.

This would allow each character to keep their armor sets separate, and end clutter in storage.

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

As with the post earlier, build updates count for the WHOLE month of whatever they say. I think this leverage use by Anet started being applied around the release of NF (can't remember).

So, yes, this thread came way too early. And I question how they will be able to do any of the few things they mentioned. Anet has been dealing with storage since GW was released, and has previously stated that it would cost too much for new servers just for in-game storage. What makes anyone think they'll be able to do it now that they only have 4 (around that I believe) people working on GW1 while everyone else is on GW2? Most likely they'll have some roundabout "patch" like the festival hat guy.

On another note, is it me or does Linsey sound frustrated? It's obvious that the stress of dealing with the fans griping about GW2/the April GW patch, and programming for the April patch is frying her nerves. I'll bet alot of the Anet staff feels the same way, but we wouldn't know due to the anonymity...

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rexion View Post
Add a "Personal Closet" tab to the storage.

This would allow each character to keep their armor sets separate, and end clutter in storage.
Sure as long as they don't call it "Personal Closet".

Black Metal

Black Metal

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

N/

shoyon, you might be on to something regarding a roundabout festival hat guy being recoded to armor guy -- you buy/craft an armor piece or set normally, show it to the guy, and it's unlocked. Then you trash it. That would seem to be much more server space-conserving than having extra storage space that would have to save your insignias, runes, dye combos, etc. Of course we'd all prefer the latter......

edit: that however isn't really a good answer. It only works for those who use one suit and just want to fill their HoM, but doesn't work for people who really want multiple suits the same way people use multiple builds and bars.

also it would be nice to see spawning power more on par with soul reaping, divine favor, expertise, etc.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

spawning power buff.

gunster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Guardians of the Star [STAR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler View Post
spawning power buff.
not ever gonna happen probably, but seconded.

Or to expand, a rit buff overall would be nice....i don't care what as long as i get sumthing :P

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

I see dark times about to unfold with Anet. April update looks more and more unimpressive. I understand their project sounded blain to start, but seeing how 2 month latter, and no new information has come out, i can only think it nothing really to brag about. It was known months in advance what was going on with the title update from Linsey talk page. Now we know same amount of information as we do in January. Except we know what can't be done with Linsey's faq. Couple this with this the 2 year anniversary of the vaporware announcement, I really wonder how many really can side with them anymore.

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tearz1993 View Post
Sure as long as they don't call it "Personal Closet".
I just needed to make the idea clearer.
Closet would work.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Originally Posted by gunster View Post
not ever gonna happen probably, but seconded.

Or to expand, a rit buff overall would be nice....i don't care what as long as i get sumthing :P
honestly id be amazed if anet actually put out a statement about their thoughts on it.

but im guessing since they added the +2% duration on weapon spells that they think they did a super job and nothing else needs to be done.

bel unbreakable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

scotland

shadow hunters of light

W/Mo

dont need to buff spawning power just revert to the way it was before it got nerfed

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Maybe we'll get the Hairstylist a lot of us have wanted for a LONG time now...

here's hoping...

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Lol @ Linsey's statement.

This means all we'll probably get is another storage tab, as opposed to something useful.

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

I expect maybe 2 more storage tabs, some more room in invt, hom update, & skill updates...nothing more /yawn

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

I couldn't care less about extra storage.

It's not even on my "What I would like to see changed list" because I don't have a storage problem. And seems many others feel the same...

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NassauBob View Post
/signed. In fact, do away with the whole "stack" concept, and just collect to your heart's content. Why have a limit?

Shane
Because any storage space takes up room on ANet's database.

There's a reason why stack sizes in online games, and in older offline games, are almost always somewhere around 250 - the largest range of numbers that can be tracked with a single byte of data is 0-255. Since disk architecture is such that space is usually parceled out in chunks no smaller than one byte, having a stack size over 255 doubles the amount of disk space required for tracking the number of items in a stack, regardless of whether any individual stack is >255 or not.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
- Weapon upgrades. Buying them from players is either slow or impossible. Storing them it's also impossible. A trader is a must for them.
Agreed. I'd be able to clear out so much of my inventory if even just elemental and condition-lengthening mods (you know, ones that aren't variable in their effect) could go to a trader, rather than holding onto dozens of various types just in case I ever need them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bamma
Regarding storage, I would like the ability to move mutiple items at once.

An example being: Click and drag a backpack, beltpouch, bag to storage, prompting:

Would you like to empty all contents of backpack/beltpouch/bag into storage?

or vice versa

Would you like to move all contents of storage slot I,II,III,IV into backpack/beltpouch/bag?

Storage space will always be limited, so I would rather have a faster and more efficient way to move items around.
Oooh. I likey!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal
shoyon, you might be on to something regarding a roundabout festival hat guy being recoded to armor guy -- you buy/craft an armor piece or set normally, show it to the guy, and it's unlocked. Then you trash it. That would seem to be much more server space-conserving than having extra storage space that would have to save your insignias, runes, dye combos, etc. Of course we'd all prefer the latter......
The 'festival hat guy' method would have similar benefits to the materials storage tab, however - all they'd need is a switch on whether you have a particular type of armour or not. (Personally, if they are looking at taking this route, I'd recommend simply using the Monument of Resilience, which already tracks which armours are unlocked, thus only requiring the extra code needed for the new functionality space-wise.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gunster
not ever gonna happen probably, but seconded.

Or to expand, a rit buff overall would be nice....i don't care what as long as i get sumthing :P
If it isn't somehow related to Spawning Power or requiring an attribute over 12, the N/Rts will just steal it again.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by draxynnic View Post
Because any storage space takes up room on ANet's database.

There's a reason why stack sizes in online games, and in older offline games, are almost always somewhere around 250 - the largest range of numbers that can be tracked with a single byte of data is 0-255. Since disk architecture is such that space is usually parceled out in chunks no smaller than one byte, having a stack size over 255 doubles the amount of disk space required for tracking the number of items in a stack, regardless of whether any individual stack is >255 or not.
Technically, they can just use couple of high bits from different property that will never reach certain number. Assuming, for example, that data structure of all items contains requirement (it probably won't, but bear with me), it is safe to use 4 high bits for argumenting stack size - increasing maximum size to ~4000. Also making code a bit messy, but that is the price ...

But stack sizes are not issue. More problems would be solved by making all upgrades stackable.

Lord Hares

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lord Hares

Add Account-based storage for pets
Give us a 'GORE' mode and/or new elite area to make fun with ....

Strange Brew

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/N

I want a wardrobe so I can hang my unused armor sets for retrieval at a later date, instead of having to carry em around all the time.

Dye and tome storage would be great.

Dedicated minipets should also be retrievable from HoM to use as and when you feel like it.

Darkhorse

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Me/A

I'm hoping for a little bonus content a la Sorrow's Furnace. Hell, throw in a high-end area off the south-western end of Verdant Cascades filled with Quetzal machinations. Hehe.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhorse View Post
I'm hoping for a little bonus content a la Sorrow's Furnace. Hell, throw in a high-end area off the south-western end of Verdant Cascades filled with Quetzal machinations. Hehe.
Now that would be something to look forward too.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Why only Prestige armour in the Hall of Monuments then? why not all armours?

Or... make a 15k version of Tyrian armour like Farrah Cappo has:

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Definately looking forward to extra storage, even just dye storage + belt pouch expansion will help quite a bit. I'd love to see much more than this though, some way of dealing with armour sets, keys (I know, i should use picks, but I have a fair few left over!), pets, weapon mods etc.

Mordiego

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

def looking forward the HoM armor display update. Want to start buying off all armors, but need to know about the mechanisms of the monument.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

Hrm. Based on recent experience.

Book storage that doesn't count for tomes or completed/authorized books.
Dye storage that doesn't stack.
Equipping a weapon that is not from your primary class drops all your attribute points to 0

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

From Konig Des Todes quote of Linsey:
Quote:
75.172.44.33: from dictionary.com "prestige: reputation or influence arising from success, achievement, rank, or other favorable attributes." It's not a stretch that prestige in games would be equated with rarity which in most games comes hand in hand with expense. The reason we can't use generic green weapons is because there are hundreds of them.
Arenanet, how did you ever manage to create such a good game, your entire staff seems to be composed of brainless retards.

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

if drunkard was changed into points i would be very happy.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

i want the weapons that are in the monument to be capable of being used account wide instead of being customized to single characters

go cubs

go cubs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Chicago

[SIR]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by R Langdon View Post
if drunkard was changed into points i would be very happy.

And people who actually did the title will b mad....
Honestly if u really want the title...do it! dont b lazy and make them fix it for your needs
Heck this would help me if they made it that way but i dont want it....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc View Post
i want the weapons that are in the monument to be capable of being used account wide instead of being customized to single characters
OO yes... as i think i mentioned earlier on here.. I would love that...b able to pick them up on any char if put in hall because i dont want them customized ... i just want them in my hall....that would b sweet....sorry posting back to back....dunno how to double quote

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

I won't hold my breath on anything spectacular, which will leave me to be pleasantly surprised.

Commander Kanen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

[DVDF]

P/

I would like to see a good para update to the leadership line.

Leader's Comfort should just heal for 40 - 140+ depending on attribute (much like Heal Sig) without having to have allys

Soldier's Fury - better shout for upkeep. or just make it last 10 seconds uncoditional (with no activation time IE make it a shout not echo) with 20sec recharge.

Aggressive Refrain- this hit the nerf bat anyway, make a leadership shout to upkeep. maybe update Hasty Refrain or Lead the way (its a pain in the arse to stop to cast something like Anthem of Flame)

A H O Y T

A H O Y T

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

TE.

Delta Formation

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Kanen View Post
I would like to see a good para update to the leadership line.

Leader's Comfort should just heal for 40 - 140+ depending on attribute (much like Heal Sig) without having to have allys
That's.. kind of the point of the skill? Much like many of paragon skills; they help allies and Leader's Comfort is a skill that takes something back from those allies.. I think it's good, and makes sense as it is.

Mystic Reaper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

hoping to see dye and tome storage tab. anything else would be a bonus =P .
also, the Treasure Hunter title was disabled from being announced in towns as an acheivment, from when they made teasure hunter acct wide. I want them to put it back so we can see when someone gets it. especially since easter is on the way and I and others will finally max the title and would like it announced.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

Spur-of-the-moment, non-storage-based wishlist: (I'm taking a wait-and-see with regards to what storage upgrades are coming)


- Is Amatz Basin ever going to give you more than +5 faction for kills? (Yes, I still mess around in this mission from time to time when I'm bored.) It's not even the standard faction rate in explorables anymore. Where's my change to +10 faction per kill as is standard for NM zones? Saving the refugees doesn't give crap anymore. At least make the kills worth a damn.

- The Guild Hall Skill Trader: Either fix it so he can offer more than just the core skills, or lower the cost of him from 100k down to ~20k or so. He's a glorified cap sig trader in his current state of ability, and 100k for that is way too much.

- Always worth a mention: Superior ID Kits and Superior Salvage kits made available from the Temple of Ages merchant. If there's anything else that high-end merchants have that this merchant doesn't, add that stuff too.

- XP scrolls are nice. Elite Area scrolls are nice. How about some sort of faction/rep gain increase scrolls?

- Alright now, this has gone on for faaaaaaaaaar too long:

Local chat: name in yellow, message in white.
Guild chat: name in green, message in gray.
Team chat: name in light blue, message in gray.
Alliance chat: name in orange, message in gray.

and then...

Trade chat: name in light pink, message in light pink -- the SAME light pink!

Why does a chat channel that when used is going to have billions of lines in it, have the name and the message the SAME FREAKIN' COLOR? Does anybody at ANet realize just how hard it is at peak hours in Kamadan to read this channel, not simply because of the sheer amount of messages, but because it's a real eyesore to make out where one trade message line of spam ends and another begins? A simple cosmetic change such as giving trade chat name and message different colors (like every other damn channel) would go a looooooooooong way with readability.

Been requested by people for a long time. Still all pink, all the time. If the goal is to improve the game, this would be one of the ways, for a LOT of people.



EDIT: One last thing. Hopefully with the HoM part of the update, ANet finally spills the beans as to what exactly constitutes a 'maxed' HoM monument. Players are going on the speculation that maxing the display area of the monument is maxing it out (ie. 20 minis b/c after that point it's overflow, etc.), but AFAIK there has never been confirmation one way or the other. It's time to give this information out.

Rosie Woogs

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

If I get this in the April update, I will be be a happy camper!

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Rosie's Closet