May Skill Balances

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi I'm Regem View Post
Right now they are putting a bunch of un-used skills on a dartboard taking turns throwing darts to see what the next super broken buff is going to be.
We already know the "super broken buff" part of the update. You already mentioned it.

Hi I'm Regem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

Malice Moguls

Quote:
Originally Posted by lutz View Post
We already know the "super broken buff" part of the update. You already mentioned it.
whoknows they might make more than expected.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Cool.. I can't wait for the update at last.
Hopefully it will be a monster update full of 1337 buffs to add new gimmicks to the game

Also, spawn power. It needs buff!

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

Lets see if you can make up for the delay by finally getting rid of shadow form.

*in before uwsc players BAWWWING*

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Thank You Ms Regina, I was just about to ask when can we expect the April XTH rewards. I hope my third account will get its prediction rewards this time. if not it will have been the 4th....

Amnel Ithtirsol

Amnel Ithtirsol

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AU

League Of The Fallen

Mo/

I like Snow Bunny's ideas

Here's some more:

[Vow of Silence] 5e; 1/4c; 10r "For 5...9...10 seconds you cannot be the target of enemy spells."

[Extend Enchantments] 5e; 1/4c; 20r "For 5...17...21 seconds enchantments cast on you last 100% longer."

Also... remove energy loss from [Holy Wrath] ...

^^ should mix it up a bit
:P

Lux Aeterna

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2009

RAH

Close Enough [XVII]

W/A

Wow you guys are such bitches.

Anet tells you that something you want is coming, and you say the game is broken and they don't care.

Just be happy and wait a week for some skill changes instead of flaming.

Capulatio

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2009

United Kingdom

ASP

A/

I agree, sins have been nerfed to dust, we need buffs!

LithiumPicnic

LithiumPicnic

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

League of the Fallen [LotF]

D/

Screw the skill balance, just add the following.


Pretty please ;-)

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

[Decapitate] -> You lose all adrenaline and all Energy. If this attack hits, you deal +5...41 damage and cause a Deep Wound for 5...17 seconds. This attack always results in a critical hit. This attack has a 10% chance of instantly killing your target.

Might make it useable...

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LithiumPicnic View Post
Screw the skill balance, just add the following.


Pretty please ;-)
Spell check for the win! lol...

I agree though...wait....no i dont...who still uses those? As a matter of fact...what is that? .....hmmmm....maybe i should try this pve thing out

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
This attack has a 10% chance of instantly killing your target.

Might make it useable...
I laughed. Still, Sniper Support says hi. From EVSS we know that GW's engine reads 1/10 as 1/(10^10).

This thread is pathetic. When was that huge major update the likes of which have never been seen in GW? Oh yeah, like two weeks ago.

Demanding things is fuuuun.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna View Post
Wow you guys are such bitches.

Anet tells you that something you want is coming, and you say the game is broken and they don't care.

Just be happy and wait a week for some skill changes instead of flaming.
This is nothing new. It has been going on since release and the sad thing about it is that Arenanet still bends over backwards to please them. Unless someone makes some overpowering build I don't see why we even need constant skill updates. Arenanet has changed the skills over a billion times already and pvp community stilll isn't happy.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
Just to let you all know, the May Skill balance update will be on May 14 this month.

We will be distributing the XTH points, swapping out the tonic, doing AT map rotations, etc. tomorrow (May 7).
Thanks for the update Regina

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

I was fairly happy with the last skill update. Got rid of a lot of problem skills/builds (rawrspike, WoW abuse, "encouraged" split, turrets) Even if they didn't follow our ideas, the game became a bit more balanced after that.

There are still a lot of problems out there. If Anet is also reading this thread, lemme give you a slight glimpse at what we are looking for:

*Increase casting time of all multi-enchant removals to 2 seconds (see ShatterStorm, PoD, Strip Enchant...)

*Decrease health debenifits of LC from 33% to 20%, maybe fiddle with energy/recharge/cast time

*Decrease power of PnH (Lower amount of hexes removed and lower expiration rate, maybe nerf cast time to 3/4s)

*Revert Warriors Endurance to a stance (Easymode needn't exist)

*fix Mirror of Ice to actually deal cold dmg and stack the damage accordingly

*Increase cast time of Protective was Koalai to 2 seconds

*Decrease duration and recharge of Recuperation

*Rework Assassins (see threads made by other players; they have some good ideas)

*Nerf Keen Arrow (damage-wise) and Hunters Shot (cast time reverted)

*Make it so that Strength of Honor and other damage buffs don't stack (Conjure xxx's, Judges Insight)

* Do what you want with PvE skills

A lot of people were happy with the last content update. Don't dissapoint the PvP side this time, please.

Kronos Ledaloth

Kronos Ledaloth

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Italy

Spirits From Hell [SH]

E/P

I don't think they will nerf SF, UWsc and FOWsc are still full of noob players that aren't able to finish them. These are the last farming groups remains, and lots of peeps just play gw for that (:rofl. I think they will only balance the pvp for this upgrade

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok Omen View Post
stuff
May I just say thank you for an honest, decent post? Reading this was a breath of fresh air in a cesspool of whiny, immature criticism.

P.S. For PvP and PvE alike, Spawning Power needs a rework. Pleeeeeeeease?

wetwillyhip

wetwillyhip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA, Southern California, Orange County

Tyrian Elements [TyE]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi View Post
No wonder anets being sued left and right, they can't keep deadlines... Better be a good update.

....NC Soft is being sued... not Anet.... nice line.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
I laughed. Still, Sniper Support says hi. From EVSS we know that GW's engine reads 1/10 as 1/(10^10).

This thread is pathetic. When was that huge major update the likes of which have never been seen in GW? Oh yeah, like two weeks ago.

Demanding things is fuuuun.
Wow a Zoo and some stylists. Gee, they really outdid themselves.
Also, it only affected PvE, PvP is the heart of this game and it constantly gets ignored.

Ignoring things is fuuuun.

DreamWind

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna View Post
Wow you guys are such bitches.

Anet tells you that something you want is coming, and you say the game is broken and they don't care.

Just be happy and wait a week for some skill changes instead of flaming.
Uh...people have been waiting YEARS (not weeks) for proper skill changes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
Arenanet has changed the skills over a billion times already and pvp community stilll isn't happy.
Because they keep making stupid changes. I find it a bit humorous that anybody thinks this new update will be any different or better just because it is taking longer. It isn't taking longer because they are putting more thought into it (although I doubt that would help), it is taking longer because their other more precious updates were more important. I can't wait to say I told you so when the PvP community is uphappy once more. You heard it here first.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
Wow a Zoo and some stylists. Gee, they really outdid themselves.
Also, it only affected PvE, PvP is the heart of this game and it constantly gets ignored.

Ignoring things is fuuuun.
PvP is the heart of this game? That sounds like a moderately biased opinion. PvP balance might be the heart of the overwhelming proportion of skill updates themselves but it's been beaten to death how many players play PvE vs. how many play PvP. Also, Guild Wars is not divided into PvP and PvE definitively as so many people around here seem to think it is. The game as a whole must be updated and improved for better gameplay overall. Sorry that the vocal minority was displeased with the major update. Don't try to minimize the magnitude of the update just because you didn't get your toy.

Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd. Ever thought of that after countless updates have been criticized to death and cried about incessantly?

And here, if you think otherwise, I'll link this post to a QQ thread about the May balances that will inevitably arise seconds after the skill updates are released.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Hurray. We have to wait another week so we can learn what skill or three has been minorly tweaked and which dozens of neglected skills have been ignored yet again.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Ok, well thanks for the heads up. I'm inclined to be understanding as the content update was impressive, nonetheless, this is a bit long to let the meta go completely stale. Anyone else sick of: W/A, W/Rt, R/mo, Me/Mo, N/A, Mo/E, Mo/E, E/Rt?

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by distilledwill View Post
Ok, well thanks for the heads up. I'm inclined to be understanding as the content update was impressive, nonetheless, this is a bit long to let the meta go completely stale. Anyone else sick of: W/A, W/Rt, R/mo, Me/Mo, N/A, Mo/E, Mo/E, E/Rt?
Whats that build?

legacyofkain85

legacyofkain85

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Lady Ainowa

when i saw the title of the thread ,i thought the skill update already went online (while i was sleeping) and this was a discussion thread about the update,silly me.

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

pnh, linger and strengh and honor is definitely getting nerfed in pvp

Deimos Zargarda

Deimos Zargarda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

The longer the wait, the better it gets, so I hope.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

OH BOY a complain about the skill update thread before we even get it!

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi I'm Regem View Post
Right now they are putting a bunch of un-used skills on a dartboard taking turns throwing darts to see what the next super broken buff is going to be.
1. Should they make the update, yes or no?
2. Should they put time in making the update, yes or no?

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.

Professor K

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo View Post
1. Should they make the update, yes or no?
2. Should they put time in making the update, yes or no?

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.
The microtransactions fad is over. Now the trolls need something else to whine about! Just keep in mind its just the guru community that is pathetic. Fortunately guru doesn't represent the entire games community.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
PvP is the heart of this game? That sounds like a moderately biased opinion. PvP balance might be the heart of the overwhelming proportion of skill updates themselves but it's been beaten to death how many players play PvE vs. how many play PvP. Also, Guild Wars is not divided into PvP and PvE definitively as so many people around here seem to think it is. The game as a whole must be updated and improved for better gameplay overall. Sorry that the vocal minority was displeased with the major update. Don't try to minimize the magnitude of the update just because you didn't get your toy.

Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd. Ever thought of that after countless updates have been criticized to death and cried about incessantly?

And here, if you think otherwise, I'll link this post to a QQ thread about the May balances that will inevitably arise seconds after the skill updates are released.
Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!


PvP on the other hand, plays against other players. People generally dislike unbalanced situations, and therefore want them changed. As fun as it is to call PvP players the vocal minority, there is still a strong playerbase that enjoys playing PvP. And the moaning etc is all in the hope that eventually we will get listened to and some needed changes will take place.

It's ok, you just stick your zoo :3.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

I happen to love my zoo so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you!

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#

N/E

Are you planning to finally nerf ursan?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
PvP is the heart of this game?
Regina recently said in a 4th anniversary interview that PvP is only 10% of the community:
http://talkingaboutgames.com/news/in...wars-interview

Quote:
Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd.
The responsibility is shared: Anet did make some terrible mistakes and didn't fix some clearly bugged skills, BUT the PvP community acts with a lot of immaturity and arrogance as a whole (sometimes it feels as if they're continuing their PvP games in the forums, I mean, you have to win an argument right?). The nicest PvP players can mostly be found in game, not on Guru (although it's how I met one ).

Nevertheless, in her recent interview on the 4th anniversary event on the Sanitarium radio, Linsey said that they want to maintain a "critical mass" for PvP.

KiLLi4N

KiLLi4N

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2009

We Are From Poland [pol]

Rt/N

Hope theyll finally do sth with spawning power...

cloud4905

cloud4905

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2008

Retired

W/Mo

Regina,

Maybe you could ask the update team to be less lazy this time and make the pvp/pve changes different. Seeing the "balance team" make the exact same changes to the exact same skills 2 months straight for pvp and pve is pretty disheartening.

Nereyda Shoaal

Nereyda Shoaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deldrimor Warcamp

Mo/W

OMG OMG!!! SKILL UPDATE IS NOT TODAY... OMG ANET LOSERS
WE HAVE TO WAIT 7 MORE DAYS... Arrrghghhh...... IT'S end of the world I'm telling ya!!!!!!!111111111


rofl @ the idiots
The ammount of crap you throw at anet is just unbelievable. I hope all of you get 1k perma ping in PvP for the next 6 months

Jaran Cell

Jaran Cell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sweden the land of blond tall sexy men

[Ze]

Mo/A

PvP doesn't have even close to the importance it had when the game was new.
I'm a PvP:er myself but some of you guys have to realise you'r not daddys favorite girl anymore.

Want a hug?

NARCHY

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal View Post
OMG OMG!!! SKILL UPDATE IS NOT TODAY... OMG ANET LOSERS
WE HAVE TO WAIT 7 MORE DAYS... Arrrghghhh...... IT'S end of the world I'm telling ya!!!!!!!111111111


rofl @ the idiots
The ammount of crap you throw at anet is just unbelievable. I hope all of you get 1k perma ping in PvP for the next 6 months
What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.

So plz, dont call us idiots, u look even more pathetic than the whinners.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo View Post

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.
If I was a disgruntled customer, I wouldn't buy their pitiful sequel. Nor would all the other disgruntled customers.