OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!
I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz
I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz.
/end fake QQ
Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life.
On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills?
May Skill Balances
ajc2123
niek2004
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GvG/HA dont run palm strikers, why nerf something that isnt even being used?
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NARCHY
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By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games)
kedde
About some damn time.
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OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!
I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz. /end fake QQ Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life. On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills? |
ajc2123
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At start, Anet was paying attention for pvpers, and even made big turnaments with biz prices (50k $ cash, yeye). That's why we arg now, we dont have anything now, neither the "taking care of skillz" part, nor the irl bonus (money, irl meetings, etc)
By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games) |
GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE MONTHLY FEES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO UPDATE ANYTHING!
We are just lucky like that.
@ Apollo
Ty, didn't know that.
Professor K
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At start, Anet was paying attention for pvpers, and even made big turnaments with biz prices (50k $ cash, yeye). That's why we arg now, we dont have anything now, neither the "taking care of skillz" part, nor the irl bonus (money, irl meetings, etc)
By buying guildwars, we payed for updates, hat's why if we dont have updates, we are angry =) We're not a community in the first place, we are custumers who bought their product. They ow us those skills updates, and it should be made in time, when it's needed, not 4 months later (i'm not even talking about RA syncjoin or GvG fake top 100 games) |
Nodakim
Games with subscriptions arent also required to have updates.
We are lucky?Wah?
We are lucky?Wah?
Wild Rituals
I have to ask why does announcments by anet be alloud to be disscussed? it always turns into something like this,
some people say thanks,
others hate it,
others come to troll,
but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt
beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time?
i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly!
some people say thanks,
others hate it,
others come to troll,
but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt
beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time?
i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly!
NARCHY
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I can't believe I have to repeat this again.
GAMES THAT DON'T HAVE MONTHLY FEES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO UPDATE ANYTHING! We are just lucky like that. @ Apollo Ty, didn't know that. |
The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O
NARCHY
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You didn't pay for 1/3 of the game, you paid for all of it. If you choose to ignore the other aspects of the game it isn't ArenaNet's problem.
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ajc2123
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Did u buy the game in a real store? on the back of mine i can read that the game will be regulary updated. Am i mistaking by thinking the pvp should be updated too, as the pve is ? (if we can call that "pve update" an update...)
The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O |
Well you probably can.
Simple answer, GW is on its last life since Anet moved all their focus on aion and gw2. I'm surprised we still get big updates every 4 months honestly.
aapo
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If I was a disgruntled customer, I wouldn't buy their pitiful sequel. Nor would all the other disgruntled customers.
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One batch of players comes in and whines that the game is all samey and demand changes. ANET gives them changes in skill update. Then another batch of players comes in and whines that something is overpowered and not fun. First group of players are playing happily. Now ANET nerfs stuff and first group of players returns to whine. It's neverending cycle and all this because ANET decided that ambiguous community opinions matter. Just look at the competitive Warcraft III scene these days. Blizzard doesn't change balance unless there's really pressing reasons to do so and yet all four races with different playstyles are represented in ladder of top players. That is what I call balancing done right.
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Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!
PvP on the other hand, plays against other players. People generally dislike unbalanced situations, and therefore want them changed. As fun as it is to call PvP players the vocal minority, there is still a strong playerbase that enjoys playing PvP. And the moaning etc is all in the hope that eventually we will get listened to and some needed changes will take place. It's ok, you just stick your zoo :3. |
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The responsibility is shared: Anet did make some terrible mistakes and didn't fix some clearly bugged skills, BUT the PvP community acts with a lot of immaturity and arrogance as a whole (sometimes it feels as if they're continuing their PvP games in the forums, I mean, you have to win an argument right?). The nicest PvP players can mostly be found in game, not on Guru (although it's how I met one ).
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Surely there are some nice updates, like the one with the Palm Strike nerf etc. but then later they come with crap like Lingering Curse and PnH. Honestly, how does anyone think that would be a good idea to implement?
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What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.
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OMG anet ur su stoopid11!1 why dun you give me skill updaets that i want cuz gw is teh only thing in mah lifw! Stop ruinin mah life!
I dun caer bout zaishen quests and manageri with its new explorable area and nocholas an stylists storage cra that took months to updeat. all I eva do is high end pvpz how m i usppoe to play the game with these currentz skillz I wan you to update skills everyday cuz that what i want and u should ingor other playrz. besides im the only one that plays ur game anwayz. /end fake QQ Wow it's hard to constantly spell bad. Seriously guys...get a life. On a side note does anyone know where i can find this so called Izzy forum that he discusses skills? |
Also, no, you can't get to the forums because they're only for top PvP people who know what they're saying. Thought you'd know that.
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I have to ask why does announcments by anet be alloud to be disscussed? it always turns into something like this,
some people say thanks, others hate it, others come to troll, but it goes NOWEHRE it really doesnt beforee long thing will turn into a pvp vs pve disscussion for the Thousandth time? i suggest a lock on this before it gets to silly! |
Its probably pointless nearly always ends up silly if it didn't start out that way but it can be entertaining.
One day I really would like a group of players to get a chance to tweak a set of skills according to their view of the game.
It should be a prize offered to the winners of some top pvp winning team.
I really would like to see the comments for their efforts from the player base as well as the anet team.
They would probably be pretty much what we get now a few thanks and loads of moans.
go cubs
Thx for the update Regina...Dont mind waiting for the skill updates 
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Lets see if you can make up for the delay by finally getting rid of shadow form.
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Those that would enforce their own agenda's vs anyone else in the entire world because they think they are god, judge and jury of all on the Guru forum.
Those that would say where a thread was going without even knowing where a thread is going like they are some kind of psychic guru.
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Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!
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Bring on the skill balance!
Mr. G
Meh I can wait.
It said it would be regularly updated and it is. They didnt promise regular skill updates, or regular updates that you will like.
I'm so tempted to break out another poster for this... I realise I risk running the PvP Stereotypes here but is it possible for a PvP player to make a criticism without using the phrase:
"Guildwars is based around PvP"
I'm not a heavy PvPer (as in I sleep once in a while) but lemme see if I can work this out. You want these updates so the game doesnt get stale, however you all want the holy grail of "perfect" balance.
So you want a game that doesnt get stale where nothing ever changes?
Good luck with that.
Sometimes I feel sorry for Regina. They say don't shoot the messenger but she must be so full of holes she leaks when she drinks.
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Did u buy the game in a real store? on the back of mine i can read that the game will be regulary updated. Am i mistaking by thinking the pvp should be updated too, as the pve is ? (if we can call that "pve update" an update...) The live team are pro-pve players, they dont care at all about pvp, and this is unfair. I know, poor me, but wth, why pve players take the lead on a pvp based game? :O |
I'm so tempted to break out another poster for this... I realise I risk running the PvP Stereotypes here but is it possible for a PvP player to make a criticism without using the phrase:
"Guildwars is based around PvP"
I'm not a heavy PvPer (as in I sleep once in a while) but lemme see if I can work this out. You want these updates so the game doesnt get stale, however you all want the holy grail of "perfect" balance.
So you want a game that doesnt get stale where nothing ever changes?
Good luck with that.
Sometimes I feel sorry for Regina. They say don't shoot the messenger but she must be so full of holes she leaks when she drinks.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
well maybe ill actually start playing again if the skill update is any good...
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Hmm...gee I wonder why. (Hint: It isn't the players' fault).
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Correct sir. The reason Guild Wars failed as a competitive game (its main purpose I might add) is because Anet pulls stupid crap like this. Everything else is more important, then when the balance is finally released the game is still a big mess. The only difference is PvP players care about this stuff and PvE players mostly don't.
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Apollo Smile
This thread has gotten turned into another stupid PVP vs PVE debate. Take that shit elsewhere. This is to discuss the upcoming skill update.
Sweet Mystery
Meh I wait for the day when Anet ban people for flaming them when they announce something. Anet do their job and get unwarrented grief from people.
Those sorts of people should just go play WoW or something. An update is coming, be glad for it, or they may just stop doing them thinking "why should we?"
Those sorts of people should just go play WoW or something. An update is coming, be glad for it, or they may just stop doing them thinking "why should we?"
NARCHY
there is no war pve, pvp, pvpers are right, these is no possible debate
But pleaze, discuss about the "upcomming" skill update.
But pleaze, discuss about the "upcomming" skill update.
Selket
Because PvP and PvE have nothing to do with how skills are balanced right
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TideSwayer
Thanks for the words describing exactly what we can expect from this month's skill balance, ie. major skill balance / minor skill balance, PvP-focused, PvE-focused, etc...
....... Oh wait. Regina didn't say one thing of the freakin' sort. Goddamnit. Pretty (rolleyes) thing to do, as this particular set of balances is potentially VERY important depending on what ANet plans to do here. PvE could change drastically if SF, RoJ scatter, Save Yourselves, Rit buffs, etc.. are included as part of this month's balance. Pretty much ALL of the current major farming runs/spots are at risk of being nerfed (and most likely will be, sooner or later). I'm sure all the PvE players would love to know if SF is on its (immediate) way out and they should get their fill ASAP or not. PvP could be in line for a major shakeup or it could see 1 or 2 skills changed and ANet could say, "carry on with your day". Which is it? If you don't want to spill the beans specifically, well, are we to expect a major set of balances or minor, overall?
....... Oh wait. Regina didn't say one thing of the freakin' sort. Goddamnit. Pretty (rolleyes) thing to do, as this particular set of balances is potentially VERY important depending on what ANet plans to do here. PvE could change drastically if SF, RoJ scatter, Save Yourselves, Rit buffs, etc.. are included as part of this month's balance. Pretty much ALL of the current major farming runs/spots are at risk of being nerfed (and most likely will be, sooner or later). I'm sure all the PvE players would love to know if SF is on its (immediate) way out and they should get their fill ASAP or not. PvP could be in line for a major shakeup or it could see 1 or 2 skills changed and ANet could say, "carry on with your day". Which is it? If you don't want to spill the beans specifically, well, are we to expect a major set of balances or minor, overall?
Apollo Smile
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Meh I wait for the day when Anet ban people for flaming them when they announce something. Anet do their job and get unwarrented grief from people.
Those sorts of people should just go play WoW or something. An update is coming, be glad for it, or they may just stop doing them thinking "why should we?" |
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We were actually having a chat in alliance the other day about anets current stance on PvP ...
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Mr. G
Let's be fair, this skill balance wasnt ever going to not be about PvE vs PvP.
With the recent PvE update pushing back the PvP one, the PvP'ers are looking for some "compensation". I just don't see why, sure it must suck to get the update pushed back, but it's not like they disabled al forms of PvP untill it is.
I'm sure PvE'rs would like it if they stopped balancing skills and worked on balancing PvE.
At this point its easier to let Anet do their job and go with the flow. I think of updates like weekend events, if it doesnt interest/affect me just wait for the next one.
With the recent PvE update pushing back the PvP one, the PvP'ers are looking for some "compensation". I just don't see why, sure it must suck to get the update pushed back, but it's not like they disabled al forms of PvP untill it is.
I'm sure PvE'rs would like it if they stopped balancing skills and worked on balancing PvE.
At this point its easier to let Anet do their job and go with the flow. I think of updates like weekend events, if it doesnt interest/affect me just wait for the next one.
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wow calm down, this update is going to be huge. Here's a link of some devs discussing their future plans for gws and what to expect from future updates.
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They realised that milking GW is only possible by adding a hairdresser for our barbie players and a menagerie for our pokemonfans.
FAIL!
BALANCE UPDATE PLEASE!
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The WoW forums are just as bad at bitching whenever an update is announced!
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Must have been a royal bitchfest with the last update.
Nereyda Shoaal
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What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.
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Eating and sleeping are vital not your update
Update is not here? TOUGH. Come back next week
Unless you are sad little person without any responsibilities in RL
The Little Viking
I couldnt care less about the skill balance. If it never happened i wouldnt cry. Thanks for the info on the other stuff.
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I couldnt care less about the skill balance. If it never happened i wouldnt cry. Thanks for the info on the other stuff.
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Be happy, some über PvE-only skills are about to get buffed!
ousbique
May i ask a question Miss Buenaobra ?
Why do you let the competitive side of this game dying ?
Please, answer me, i'm really looking for the interest of this strategy.
Why do you let the competitive side of this game dying ?
Please, answer me, i'm really looking for the interest of this strategy.
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You mean other than anet giving PvP quests insanely high rewards and an exploit that allows you to do them over and over and over?
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We play for the enjoyment of playing, and at the moment (and for a fairly long while) the game has not been fun due to the retarded meta which has barely been attended to at all. The reason people are so negative about the balance is because previous experience tells the pvp community that it's unlikely to fix anything.
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VITAL?!
Eating and sleeping are vital not your update Update is not here? TOUGH. Come back next week Unless you are sad little person without any responsibilities in RL |
The come back next week remark, the more and more they do this the less and less people will come back next week. Which for any business is a bad idea.
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100% Pure PvE player who likes killing mobs that have almost no AI.
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belladonna shylock
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Yes I do like PvE sometimes along with the REST that is offered in this game. As for PvE only skills, I could care less about those either.. I never use them. No challenge with them on a skills bar. As for "skill Balance" why not learn to use what is offered and not cry because its not how YOU think it should be?
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A skill change lowers the bar for those who can't adapt. It puts everyone on the same level of skill for a few...minutes. So, those who can't adapt should be crying for Anet to change skills, asap!
Orange Milk
I would LOVE to say that I feel the reason for the delay is that, given the recent bugs and update failures(Name change customized weapons/armor failure), they are still testing the updated overpowered skills to make sure there are no bugs.
However, I am rather certain that the reason for the delay is the simple fact that someone missplaced the darts that they use to select random skills to buff and they have yet to find them or purchase new ones.
I expect a HUGE update full of "WTF?!?! were they thinking" skill buffs that they will not balance for 6 months at least, if ever.
However, I am rather certain that the reason for the delay is the simple fact that someone missplaced the darts that they use to select random skills to buff and they have yet to find them or purchase new ones.
I expect a HUGE update full of "WTF?!?! were they thinking" skill buffs that they will not balance for 6 months at least, if ever.