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Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

16 Jan 2011 at 23:58 - 1561

During wintersday I started buying stacks of eggnog for around 7k and this dude whispered me how much i was paying a stack and told him 7k and his reply was "go f yourself" then he started going on a rampage cussing me out so i had to ignore him

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Originally Posted by Kunder

From an Officer in my guild after someone pings him Discord builds (which also serves as an amusing note about the intelligence level of the average player running Discord) :

"So... since these Necros don't use any Soul reaping skills I should take the points out of soul reaping and put them somewhere else, right?"

This guy has 34/50 HoM points including a maxed faction title and Vanquisher/Guardian. I can not understand the utter stupidity required to not know about the effects of each profession's primary attribute after you have gotten out of the training areas.

To vanquish and do guardian you don't need to know the functions of soul reaping

I am Judge

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2010

We Wear Sombrero's

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17 Jan 2011 at 08:43 - 1562

7 hero parties

yitjuan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

GMT +8

redt

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17 Jan 2011 at 12:32 - 1563

I had a new player rage in alliance chat after we tried to pester him to join a VQ.

A: Wanna VQ Prophet's Path?
B: *snide comment about not needing it*
C: I noticed you dont have Vanq title in HOM.
A: C'mon you know you need it.
B: *rages in alliance chat*

Why do people get so upset that we can check whether they're lying or not via HOM?

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

17 Jan 2011 at 12:34 - 1564

Quote:

Originally Posted by yitjuan

I had a new player rage in alliance chat after we tried to pester him to join a VQ.

A: Wanna VQ Prophet's Path?
B: *snide comment about not needing it*
C: I noticed you dont have Vanq title in HOM.
A: C'mon you know you need it.
B: *rages in alliance chat*

Why do people get so upset that we can check whether they're lying or not via HOM?

You can have a title and not have it in HoM.

yitjuan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

GMT +8

redt

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17 Jan 2011 at 12:42 - 1565

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

You can have a title and not have it in HoM.

yeah, but whats the point?

he was raging on and on about how he wasnt feeling it and then it went on to something about national security and all that. I wonder why some people are so paranoid about a game.

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

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17 Jan 2011 at 16:07 - 1566

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

You can have a title and not have it in HoM.

Not to mention there are people who just plain don't want to work on a certain title. I may have vanquished Elona but that doesn't mean I want to touch Tyria with a 50-foot pole.

Xiaquin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2010

[aRIN]

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17 Jan 2011 at 17:16 - 1567

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am Judge

7 hero parties

I'd like people to actually play content, at least. Sitting in Doomlore over the weekend, trying to get into groups to go VQ, it was 80% people doing nothing and those that were LFG begged for runners through CoF/Rragar's/etc.

In other words, waiting for someone to come along and play the game for them.

I am Judge

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2010

We Wear Sombrero's

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17 Jan 2011 at 18:37 - 1568

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaquin

I'd like people to actually play content, at least. Sitting in Doomlore over the weekend, trying to get into groups to go VQ, it was 80% people doing nothing and those that were LFG begged for runners through CoF/Rragar's/etc.

In other words, waiting for someone to come along and play the game for them.

I do agree with that as well. I am on verge of getting Gwamm and it has been easier for me then for alot of people who have been playing the game for a long time, I've only been for 13 months, it just sucks because with the 7 hero parties I mean there really is nothing at all that sets anyone half decent apart from everyone else. I was testing something the other day and was dual accounting Uw and DoA...which was pretty much 6 hero's and a somewhat afkish party member... both are doable with just hero's...finished DoA, and laughed too much during Uw that I just turned the game off.

So kind of either way you look at it, yes people may be 'playing' the game somewhat more, yet it won't be with other people. Less chance @ failure with most hero's. And pretty much with the ease of doing everything with those hero's nothing will be difficult to 'get' or 'farm' (not saying it is atm, but everything will just become even easier)

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

18 Jan 2011 at 00:13 - 1569

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am Judge

I do agree with that as well. I am on verge of getting Gwamm and it has been easier for me then for alot of people who have been playing the game for a long time, I've only been for 13 months, it just sucks because with the 7 hero parties I mean there really is nothing at all that sets anyone half decent apart from everyone else. I was testing something the other day and was dual accounting Uw and DoA...which was pretty much 6 hero's and a somewhat afkish party member... both are doable with just hero's...finished DoA, and laughed too much during Uw that I just turned the game off.

So kind of either way you look at it, yes people may be 'playing' the game somewhat more, yet it won't be with other people. Less chance @ failure with most hero's. And pretty much with the ease of doing everything with those hero's nothing will be difficult to 'get' or 'farm' (not saying it is atm, but everything will just become even easier)

As someone said if you played with people now you will still do it later with 7heros and if you didnt you wont still. and i was hoping around in doomlore and saw someone offering to run to nic for 10k.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

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18 Jan 2011 at 01:17 - 1570

Probably a bit of abuse when it stated i had completed vanquisher title via tome and i was in front of a player who said you can't possibly complete that in town..therefore i was a cheat

I am Judge

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Join Date: Sep 2010

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18 Jan 2011 at 01:24 - 1571

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelWJedi

As someone said if you played with people now you will still do it later with 7heros and if you didnt you wont still. and i was hoping around in doomlore and saw someone offering to run to nic for 10k.

Yeah that is true I suppose, just wondering if anything will be worth anything after the 7hero update.

and ooooh goodness... that's just the epitome of sad. Sometimes people need a hand to reach through their monitor and slap them

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

18 Jan 2011 at 01:45 - 1572

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am Judge

Yeah that is true I suppose, just wondering if anything will be worth anything after the 7hero update.

and ooooh goodness... that's just the epitome of sad. Sometimes people need a hand to reach through their monitor and slap them

Stop kidding yourself. The only timeframe in which titles were 'worth anything' was the two month period between the release of Hard Mode and the release of PvE skills that turned it back into Easy Mode.

I am Judge

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18 Jan 2011 at 02:39 - 1573

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunder

Stop kidding yourself. The only timeframe in which titles were 'worth anything' was the two month period between the release of Hard Mode and the release of PvE skills that turned it back into Easy Mode.

Probably true but as said before I didn't get the game untill late late 09 missed all those good times, and did alot of it just with few people to get titles...after getting titles the more and more worthless they became.

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

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18 Jan 2011 at 07:13 - 1574

Is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to read numbers?

Griffenex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

Deep in the north where the polar bears are pets and the meese are horses.

Sleep Is For Noobs [Sleep]

Mo/Me

18 Jan 2011 at 16:13 - 1575

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy The Mage

"HM farmer lf leechers to increase droprate"

Lol, it actually does increase the drop rate. The more people you have in your party, the higher the drop rates. But, the leechers will be grayed out for the farmer so they don't actually steal the drops. They're just there to give the farmer more drops and give themselves rep. I have friends who farm the raptors and those blue ice things (Sorry, forgot their name). They've told me themselves that its made a difference.

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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18 Jan 2011 at 16:27 - 1576

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffenex

Lol, it actually does increase the drop rate. The more people you have in your party, the higher the drop rates. But, the leechers will be grayed out for the farmer so they don't actually steal the drops. They're just there to give the farmer more drops and give themselves rep. I have friends who farm the raptors and those blue ice things (Sorry, forgot their name). They've told me themselves that its made a difference.

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please stop spreading this myth. It just isn't true just because your "friends told you". Many people including myself have run very extensive numbers clearly disproving this.

Lady Aranza

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2010

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18 Jan 2011 at 17:53 - 1577

I just fitted Pyre Fierceshot out for Cyndr: Strike as One, Poisonous Byte and Charm Animal, Oppressive Gaze, Vampiric Touch, Vampiric Bite, and Run as One. Also, I had Dunkoro and Xandra, and Mhenlo, Lina, Devona and Eve. Went to the dungeon and it worked, Cyndr went down. Only afterwards I realized that there is no pet around. I had forgotten to let Pyre charm one. He did rather well for a ranger with only 3 skills!

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

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18 Jan 2011 at 20:10 - 1578

Last night after a JQ match, one of my fellow rangers who just happened to be on the opposing team whispered me and accused me of hacking.

person: Quit hacking noob.
me: excuse me?
person: don't play retarded, you hacked your d-shot skill
me: and why do you think that?
person: its only suppose to interrupt and put 20 second recharge on spells. you did it to my barrage.

Elysea

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Skyrim

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

Me/Rt

18 Jan 2011 at 20:52 - 1579

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDog91

Last night after a JQ match, one of my fellow rangers who just happened to be on the opposing team whispered me and accused me of hacking.

person: Quit hacking noob.
me: excuse me?
person: don't play retarded, you hacked your d-shot skill
me: and why do you think that?
person: its only suppose to interrupt and put 20 second recharge on spells. you did it to my barrage.

Oh dear god, those kinds of people make me lol. Ran into someone like that in FA yesterday.

Person: WTF, you disabled my self-heal! You hacker!
Me: It's called Diversion.
Person: That's not what Diversion does. You're a noob.
Me: No, I hexed you with Diversion. You used your self-heal. Disabled.
Person: I know how to play a Mesmer! Noob! BOT! HACKER!

A simple /wiki would set them straight.

Zodiac Meteor

Imma Firin Mah Rojway!

Join Date: Aug 2008

At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything.

E/Mo

18 Jan 2011 at 21:53 - 1580

That barrage story reminds me of this time with this retarded necro in FA.

Some necro: Ranger Interrupts are so overpowered.

Me: Their not that bad. Just play smart and stop spamming spell casts.

Some necro: Are you kidding they cast instantly, have low recharge and deal damage even when they don't rupt.

Me: Cast instantly?

Some Necro: Yeah, it's a pain.

Me: They don't cast instantly...

Some necro: Yeah they do, plus they cost no energy for rangers.

Me: They do cost energy.

Some necro: No, rangers spam them without any energy management.

Me: ... Your dead wrong, go play a ranger.

Some necro: I have a level 20 ranger who beat Nightfall.

Me: ... Your dead wrong, go play a non-sucky ranger.

Some Ranger: Your totally right necro, rupts are OP and bugged. Anet is nerfing them soon and is giving the necro class rupt spells to.

Some Necro: Finally!

Me: -_-

Some Ranger: -_-

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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19 Jan 2011 at 00:20 - 1581

djs31991

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2011

19 Jan 2011 at 16:09 - 1582

I thought I was lazy...

Shizzle my Nizzle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2010

Sweden

Have no Guild

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19 Jan 2011 at 17:09 - 1583

People who insult others builds are stupid and then you end up beeing the noob or some shit.

I play Ranger/Monk all for myself, Rare combination right? But i like it. I never die in Random arenas and get 2000 + Faction per day. So that makes me happy. But people constantly say stupid retarded shit like " HURR DURR NOOB CLAS L2P LOL WTF "

Ka Tet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]

19 Jan 2011 at 17:16 - 1584

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shizzle my Nizzle

People who insult others builds are stupid and then you end up beeing the noob or some shit.

I play Ranger/Monk all for myself, Rare combination right? But i like it. I never die in Random arenas and get 2000 + Faction per day. So that makes me happy. But people constantly say stupid retarded shit like " HURR DURR NOOB CLAS L2P LOL WTF "

you can get 6,000 a day doing zaishen elite. just saying.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

19 Jan 2011 at 17:20 - 1585

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Some Ranger: Your totally right necro, rupts are OP and bugged. Anet is nerfing them soon and is giving the necro class rupt spells to.

Not only did that guy suck at playing ranger... He also had no idea what the Necro can do... spinal shivers + Cold wand or short bow = lolwhut interrupter as long as you have some sort of energy management that can keep up with it.

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

19 Jan 2011 at 20:31 - 1586

Quote:

Originally Posted by djs31991

I thought I was lazy...

That's not about being lazy. That guy wants to get to KC ASAP because he can level up very quickly there, but in order for a NF character to get from NF to Cantha they have to complete the entire Istan story. There are plenty of ferries to the Docks, but few to other continents, hence the huge price.

Kurosaki129

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2009

Guild Wars, Earth?

Mo/E

19 Jan 2011 at 21:53 - 1587

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffenex

Lol, it actually does increase the drop rate. The more people you have in your party, the higher the drop rates. But, the leechers will be grayed out for the farmer so they don't actually steal the drops. They're just there to give the farmer more drops and give themselves rep. I have friends who farm the raptors and those blue ice things (Sorry, forgot their name). They've told me themselves that its made a difference.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Drop_rate - Read under Loot Scaling.

After reading this, do you still believe what your friends tell you?

MagicKnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

Virginia, USA

Grim Omen

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20 Jan 2011 at 20:45 - 1588

I found that article and the loot article, it linked to very enlightening.
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Loot#Loot_scaling

So, judging by the articles (which has a quote from an official source), solo farming, as compared to farming with a party or leechers, gets you approximately twice as much gold and approximately eight times as many gold items, green items, dyes, scrolls, materials, tomes, and festival items.

Unless we're going to disbelieve the devs on this, that is.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

20 Jan 2011 at 21:12 - 1589

You are seriously suggesting that a raptor farmer with 7 leechers gets 8 times more gold items than a solo raptor farmer?

Ninja Dude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

[TIG]

A/D

20 Jan 2011 at 21:38 - 1590

Quote:

Originally Posted by djs31991

I thought I was lazy...

If you get a ferry to docks, you need to get a ferry to the other continents. You obviously don't know what a ferry is. It's not a run.

MagicKnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2011

Virginia, USA

Grim Omen

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20 Jan 2011 at 21:57 - 1591

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

You are seriously suggesting that a raptor farmer with 7 leechers gets 8 times more gold items than a solo raptor farmer?

No, I (and the April 20, 2007 update notes) are suggesting the opposite. Solo farmers should get a lot more golds, tomes, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Dude

If you get a ferry to docks, you need to get a ferry to the other continents. You obviously don't know what a ferry is. It's not a run.

It's a little hard to tell without context, but I think that might be taking place in The Marketplace, and the guy wants a run to Kaineng Center (if that's what KC means here).

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

20 Jan 2011 at 22:04 - 1592

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicKnight

It's a little hard to tell without context, but I think that might be taking place in The Marketplace, and the guy wants a run to Kaineng Center (if that's what KC means here).

Seeing as it has the title announcements, it's one of the major towns or uw/fow access areas. Probably Kamadan.

Prince Rogrs Nelson

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2010

Reign of Judgment (RoJ)

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20 Jan 2011 at 22:13 - 1593

You know you can't rely on wikia articles, right?

I mean, at all.

That being said, nothing in that article explicitly undermines the "leech" theory. They could be considered different behaviors altogether.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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20 Jan 2011 at 23:00 - 1594

It has been proven time and again that loot scaling was not implemented by the wayofficialially described (originally by Gaile). It's down to rate of kill. Leechers have no impact at all. Kill 30 with a 20-30 second game between each and you get 26+ drops. Kill the same mob all in one second and you get 3-6 drops. Every time repeatable. This effect is also in full force when you first enter a zone, so wait a minute before you farm.

Don't take anyone's word for it, just try it on any mob you can, anywhere, anytime.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

20 Jan 2011 at 23:27 - 1595

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

It has been proven time and again that loot scaling was not implemented by the wayofficialially described (originally by Gaile). It's down to rate of kill. Leechers have no impact at all. Kill 30 with a 20-30 second game between each and you get 26+ drops. Kill the same mob all in one second and you get 3-6 drops. Every time repeatable. This effect is also in full force when you first enter a zone, so wait a minute before you farm.

Don't take anyone's word for it, just try it on any mob you can, anywhere, anytime.

There was some experiment done a while back that conclusively proved that this is all bunk. IIRC item drops are seeded at the time of area entry. They used 2 characters to enter at the exact same time, one with AoE and the other with single target kills, and both received identical drops.

Lasai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

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20 Jan 2011 at 23:40 - 1596

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunder

There was some experiment done a while back that conclusively proved that this is all bunk. IIRC item drops are seeded at the time of area entry. They used 2 characters to enter at the exact same time, one with AoE and the other with single target kills, and both received identical drops.

Over a long period of time farming Jaya, I have found that the first group or two of birds will drop nothing if I charge right in without delay, and will drop in normal amounts if I take a couple of mins after zone in.

Also I have found that aggroing and killing two groups at once will rarely give any more loot than a single group kill.

I get more feathers by going at a relaxed pace. In my experience the anti farm code is anything but bunk.

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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20 Jan 2011 at 23:50 - 1597

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunder

There was some experiment done a while back that conclusively proved that this is all bunk. IIRC item drops are seeded at the time of area entry. They used 2 characters to enter at the exact same time, one with AoE and the other with single target kills, and both received identical drops.

No, the builds used in that test did not kill fast enough. Shield of Judgment is too slow. That test suggests that instances created at the same time generate the same or similar items.

Builds with instant AoE kills such as Hundred Blades, Whirling Defense, or trapping will yield different results, and may be independently verified by anyone who cares to test themselves. See here.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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21 Jan 2011 at 00:33 - 1598

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunder

There was some experiment done a while back that conclusively proved that this is all bunk. IIRC item drops are seeded at the time of area entry. They used 2 characters to enter at the exact same time, one with AoE and the other with single target kills, and both received identical drops.

That thread showed that drops are seeded by server time, OMG who'd have throught that!!!!! It said nothing about drop rate and loot nerf. If you actually read that thread you will also notice the proof I posted in it near the end.

As I said, do not believe anyone, do not believe me, TRY IT YOURSELF. It's easy, anyone can do it, all you have to do is bother, pick any place where you have builds that can kill the same mobs slow or fast.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

21 Jan 2011 at 01:31 - 1599

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

That thread showed that drops are seeded by server time, OMG who'd have throught that!!!!! It said nothing about drop rate and loot nerf. If you actually read that thread you will also notice the proof I posted in it near the end.

As I said, do not believe anyone, do not believe me, TRY IT YOURSELF. It's easy, anyone can do it, all you have to do is bother, pick any place where you have builds that can kill the same mobs slow or fast.

No need to jump on me so hard. Can you blame me for not fully remembering a 2+ year old thread? If you have conclusive evidence evidence pointing otherwise than why aren't the results publicized in the aforementioned wiki pages instead of being hidden in age-old forum threads? Lord knows how good the search function is.

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

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21 Jan 2011 at 07:18 - 1600

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