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Originally Posted by acerbity
guild wars 2 is released?
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GW2. Was it a mistake to announce?
Arkantos
slowerpoke
eotn didn't appear until end of august 2007, 10 months after nightfall and 4 months after utopia was due in april 2007.
eotn certainly doesn't have the same amount of content as a regular campaign, so what exactly happend in those extra 4 months, and in the overall 10 month development of utopia/eotn?
anet themselves were working to a schedule of 6 months between campaigns, with two teams working simutaniously on different campaigns, total dev time for one campaign being 12 months.
with that in mind, team 2 should have been 6months into the development of campaign 5 on april 2007 when utopia should have been released.
eotn certainly doesn't have the same amount of content as a regular campaign, so what exactly happend in those extra 4 months, and in the overall 10 month development of utopia/eotn?
anet themselves were working to a schedule of 6 months between campaigns, with two teams working simutaniously on different campaigns, total dev time for one campaign being 12 months.
with that in mind, team 2 should have been 6months into the development of campaign 5 on april 2007 when utopia should have been released.
Sirrush
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Originally Posted by slowerpoke
eotn didn't appear until end of august 2007, 10 months after nightfall and 4 months after utopia was due in april 2007.
eotn certainly doesn't have the same amount of content as a regular campaign, so what exactly happend in those extra 4 months, and in the overall 10 month development of utopia/eotn? anet themselves were working to a schedule of 6 months between campaigns, with two teams working simutaniously on different campaigns, total dev time for one campaign being 12 months. with that in mind, team 2 should have been 6months into the development of campaign 5 on april 2007 when utopia should have been released. |
Unless, ofcourse, the decision on GW2 was made during a dev meeting concerning Utopia..
slowerpoke
'later this year' is when we should expect some gw2 news as confirmed by the CRM, best bet is PAX, anets biggest event attendance in september.
failing that, we might get some indirect information on the progress of gw2 from the 2h ncsoft earnings conference call in august.
failing that, we might get some indirect information on the progress of gw2 from the 2h ncsoft earnings conference call in august.
Kondichael
If no Info on GW2 at PAX, then we would have to w8 for the first GW2 Book to release (23 Feb 2010).
If we wont get any infomation there either, I might consider becoming an emo.
If we wont get any infomation there either, I might consider becoming an emo.
4thVariety
My notes say that on June 14th 2006 the lawyer (Peter J. Willsey) who usually does the trademark registrations for ArenaNet registered guildwarsutopia.com. So we can pin the first draft of the Utopia project around the time Nightfall production was nearing its end. (Which makes sense, since after Nightfall is out the door, Anet has to go to NC to secure funding for working on the next title). One of the earliest rumors was that Gwen from the tutorial was finally coming back. At the same time the Bard class was rumored based on an unused artwork released along Factions. Later in EotN we of course meet Gwen, but we only get a hint at a Bard class in the shape of "the Flaming Lutes".
But in Junes 2006 neither GW2 nor Eye of the North were announced at that time. After all, Nightfall was in the final stages of production. Nightfall still had references to Utopia as it seems, especially towards a vanishing island that might be the hub of time. It took until March 07 until anything leaked so badly Anet HAD to react. Then we were told that Utopia was basically scrapped, not it was called Eye of the North and GW2 war going to reboot the franchise sometime 2009.
On April 11th 2007 BlightedEmpires.com was once again registered by that one lawyer (Peter J. Willsey) doing work for ArenaNet. That entry was refreshed on March 12 2009, so as far as I see it that is the current Project name / subtitle of GW2. The first real activity for the domain itself can be traced to December 18th 2007. That is in line with my other projection about when work on GW2 really began.
So if you think you have been waiting for GW2 too long, I got these four games for you:
But in Junes 2006 neither GW2 nor Eye of the North were announced at that time. After all, Nightfall was in the final stages of production. Nightfall still had references to Utopia as it seems, especially towards a vanishing island that might be the hub of time. It took until March 07 until anything leaked so badly Anet HAD to react. Then we were told that Utopia was basically scrapped, not it was called Eye of the North and GW2 war going to reboot the franchise sometime 2009.
On April 11th 2007 BlightedEmpires.com was once again registered by that one lawyer (Peter J. Willsey) doing work for ArenaNet. That entry was refreshed on March 12 2009, so as far as I see it that is the current Project name / subtitle of GW2. The first real activity for the domain itself can be traced to December 18th 2007. That is in line with my other projection about when work on GW2 really began.
So if you think you have been waiting for GW2 too long, I got these four games for you:
Ravious
Interesting about Blighted Empires, while I think that filing trademark registrations will likely lag behind a good amount from the start of design... it is good evidence. Hopefully in the GW2 CE we get another one of those cool DVD's. Good post, 4th.
Gigashadow
It's looking like the voice acting for GW2 has been done. If you search the news, occasionally you will stumble across an article with another voice actor mentioning GW2 on their resume. We've seen quite a bunch of these now over the last several months. They wouldn't be doing voice acting if the important content wasn't pretty much finalized, otherwise they'd just have to re-do it after changing anything.
My guess is GW2 is very close to beta, and is only waiting until Aion releases. I'll bet any GW2 info that appears at PAX will be pretty low key, but they still want to show something, since PAX is the big local tradeshow.
The estimated times for the GW2 books seem to indicate that GW2 publicity will be in full swing by that time. There's no point in a GW2 book coming out in a vacuum; no one would care, and only diehards would buy it. So probably a big marketing campaign will be in swing by then.
My guess is GW2 is very close to beta, and is only waiting until Aion releases. I'll bet any GW2 info that appears at PAX will be pretty low key, but they still want to show something, since PAX is the big local tradeshow.
The estimated times for the GW2 books seem to indicate that GW2 publicity will be in full swing by that time. There's no point in a GW2 book coming out in a vacuum; no one would care, and only diehards would buy it. So probably a big marketing campaign will be in swing by then.
Mordakai
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On April 11th 2007 BlightedEmpires.com was once again registered by that one lawyer (Peter J. Willsey) doing work for ArenaNet. That entry was refreshed on March 12 2009, so as far as I see it that is the current Project name / subtitle of GW2. The first real activity for the domain itself can be traced to December 18th 2007. That is in line with my other projection about when work on GW2 really began. |
Do you have any other dates, like the original guildwars.com or factions.com being registered?
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My guess is GW2 is very close to beta, and is only waiting until Aion releases. I'll bet any GW2 info that appears at PAX will be pretty low key, but they still want to show something, since PAX is the big local tradeshow.
The estimated times for the GW2 books seem to indicate that GW2 publicity will be in full swing by that time. There's no point in a GW2 book coming out in a vacuum; no one would care, and only diehards would buy it. So probably a big marketing campaign will be in swing by then. |
And PAX is Sept 4-6, 2009?
Gigashadow
By "that time" I was referring to the estimated time for the first book, in Feb. I think there will be a trickle of information that starts at PAX, and that trickle will be a torrent by Feb 2010 when the books come out.
Also, can't wait to go to PAX, it's only across the bridge from me. I've never gone to one of these sorts of things before.
Also, can't wait to go to PAX, it's only across the bridge from me. I've never gone to one of these sorts of things before.
Sirrush
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Do you have any other dates, like the original guildwars.com or factions.com being registered?
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Edit: eyeofthenorth.com was registered February 20th, 2007
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Gigashadow
By "that time" I was referring to the estimated time for the first book, in Feb. I think there will be a trickle of information that starts at PAX, and that trickle will be a torrent by Feb 2010 when the books come out.
Also, can't wait to go to PAX, it's only across the bridge from me. I've never gone to one of these sorts of things before. |
Man, super jealous, I would love to go to PAX, just can't fit it in this year. Oh, well maybe next year they'll have some playable GW2 demo or something!
Gun Pierson
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But I thought the fist GW2 book (Fall of Ascalon) wasn't due until Feb, 2010? (of course, that date is not confirmed) And PAX is Sept 4-6, 2009? |
HawkofStorms
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It's looking like the voice acting for GW2 has been done. If you search the news, occasionally you will stumble across an article with another voice actor mentioning GW2 on their resume. We've seen quite a bunch of these now over the last several months. They wouldn't be doing voice acting if the important content wasn't pretty much finalized, otherwise they'd just have to re-do it after changing anything.
My guess is GW2 is very close to beta, and is only waiting until Aion releases. I'll bet any GW2 info that appears at PAX will be pretty low key, but they still want to show something, since PAX is the big local tradeshow. The estimated times for the GW2 books seem to indicate that GW2 publicity will be in full swing by that time. There's no point in a GW2 book coming out in a vacuum; no one would care, and only diehards would buy it. So probably a big marketing campaign will be in swing by then. |
But yeah, that is some nice evidence that the game is progressing at least.
Gigashadow
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Good point. BUT... for all you know, those voice actors did generic stuff like grunts or yells when people get hit with attacks. Or like merchant sounds of "Hello Booka."
But yeah, that is some nice evidence that the game is progressing at least. |
Then there was another guy who did some named Centaur character.
Also, I can't imagine someone like David Sobolov doing just grunts and random NPC merchants. He's too awesome to waste on that sort of stuff.
Sirrush
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Well one of them (can't remember which guy it was, but someone posted the info here a couple months ago) said he did one of the main characters in GW2.
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own age myname
Gah! Making me all excited about GW2.
If it's true with the voice actors, I can expect some info in PAX
I can't wait
If it's true with the voice actors, I can expect some info in PAX
I can't wait
Lonesamurai
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Gah! Making me all excited about GW2.
If it's true with the voice actors, I can expect some info in PAX I can't wait |
Kondichael
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own age myname
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Regina has already stated there will be no GW2 info at PAX
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If you could find the quote, that'd be great.
Also, I found searched through some of Regina's posts on Guru (idk about other fansites) and here's what I found about PAX.
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Martin will be at GC in Cologne, and a few others from ArenaNet, but the focus for NCsoft as a whole will be Aion. And yes ArenaNet will be at PAX. (And so will Aion and City of Heroes). :-) |
juthiathjuth
Have faith in Arena.Net, they will make it perfect.
Abedeus
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Have faith in Arena.Net, they will make it perfect.
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Hehehe.
juthiathjuth
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You mean like their last game, EotN?
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Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by own age myname
When was this? She said they will be at PAX, but didn't state if they were showing GW2 or not.
If you could find the quote, that'd be great. Also, I found searched through some of Regina's posts on Guru (idk about other fansites) and here's what I found about PAX. From here I guess it doesn't sound to hopeful for GW2 info. Looks like Aion will still be the spotlight. |
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you have a source on that?
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I've asked both Martin and Regina for an official statement to confirm it won't be, so I'll post it if I get one and I've linked them this thread too so they may just post to say either way
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You mean like their last game, EotN?
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Buster
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When was this? She said they will be at PAX, but didn't state if they were showing GW2 or not.
If you could find the quote, that'd be great. Also, I found searched through some of Regina's posts on Guru (idk about other fansites) and here's what I found about PAX. From here I guess it doesn't sound to hopeful for GW2 info. Looks like Aion will still be the spotlight. |
Arduin
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Have faith in Arena.Net, they will make it perfect.
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shoyon456
The statement from Regina specifically mentions that ARENANET will be at PAX. Not GW1/GW2.
So while giving the focus of PAX to Aion, it seems they aren't leaving out the possibility of releasing something about GW2 then. It seems unlikely, but it looks like they're trying not to tie their hands, so that if they're able to get something to show at PAX, if they cannot, they won't.
The official page on PAX (i might have been looking at last years though) on the gw website makes no mention of it though, so it is unlikely there will be anything on GW2. Besides, Anet has taught me not to expect much recently. :/
So while giving the focus of PAX to Aion, it seems they aren't leaving out the possibility of releasing something about GW2 then. It seems unlikely, but it looks like they're trying not to tie their hands, so that if they're able to get something to show at PAX, if they cannot, they won't.
The official page on PAX (i might have been looking at last years though) on the gw website makes no mention of it though, so it is unlikely there will be anything on GW2. Besides, Anet has taught me not to expect much recently. :/
Nodakim
We probably will only get information like "there wont be a level cap" or "the game will take place on Tyria" + concept art.
So basicly,nothing we didnt already think will happen.
So basicly,nothing we didnt already think will happen.
Kondichael
Anet's only game is Guild Wars, what else could Anet talk about other than GW?
Perhaps the GW2 Books?
Screw Aion, Aion is out in 2 months, GW2 is out in about 2 years.
Someone tell me how GW2 is going to compete against Aion?
If GW2 and Aion were to be released, at the same time I could see the problem.
Perhaps the GW2 Books?
Screw Aion, Aion is out in 2 months, GW2 is out in about 2 years.
Someone tell me how GW2 is going to compete against Aion?
If GW2 and Aion were to be released, at the same time I could see the problem.
MartynThompson
little brats consider your self lucky
id ratehr wait 2,3,4,5 years than 250
id ratehr wait 2,3,4,5 years than 250
Hyper.nl
Yes, it was a mistake, especially all those promised screenshots and movies as well as the playable beta in 2008. Only promise what you can deliver.
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]SK[
I spent MANY a spare hour playing Guild Wars. I ran out of things to do though. Other than grind away for my Walking Amoung Mere Mortals title I have nothing left.
Despite saying I will never pay to play I have gone against my word and moved to WoW. I check GW all the time, but reading about community ran hide and seek event's isn't going to get me to come back. I'll buy GW2, no doubt about it. Anet need to keep their fanbase informed. It's the main thing I missed when Gaile left.
Despite saying I will never pay to play I have gone against my word and moved to WoW. I check GW all the time, but reading about community ran hide and seek event's isn't going to get me to come back. I'll buy GW2, no doubt about it. Anet need to keep their fanbase informed. It's the main thing I missed when Gaile left.
own age myname
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I spent MANY a spare hour playing Guild Wars. I ran out of things to do though. Other than grind away for my Walking Amoung Mere Mortals title I have nothing left.
Despite saying I will never pay to play I have gone against my word and moved to WoW. I check GW all the time, but reading about community ran hide and seek event's isn't going to get me to come back. I'll buy GW2, no doubt about it. Anet need to keep their fanbase informed. It's the main thing I missed when Gaile left. |
4thVariety
Even if Arenanet released Information during PAX, who is to say we will like it? What's enough info? A painting? A screen? A cgi trailer? The Korean Branch is already into Blade&Soul, their Mmo after Aion sheduled for late 2010. Will a Gw2 timetable be enough?
Gw2 can neither avoid Competing NC games, nor competing games of other publishers forever. It'll be interesting to see how marketing will tackle GW2. I don't think Twitter and Facebook will sell games. In the past the hype cycle of Arenanet was considerably shorter and post release hype was limited to pvp tournaments with expensive prices. That did not create the amount of buzz and chatter on the net that competing MMOs achieved with a simple update patch.
Gw2 can neither avoid Competing NC games, nor competing games of other publishers forever. It'll be interesting to see how marketing will tackle GW2. I don't think Twitter and Facebook will sell games. In the past the hype cycle of Arenanet was considerably shorter and post release hype was limited to pvp tournaments with expensive prices. That did not create the amount of buzz and chatter on the net that competing MMOs achieved with a simple update patch.
Ate of DK
Yes, it was a mistake to announce it that early.
And also:
Yes, it was a mistake to stop extending GW1.
And also:
More PvP-love was needed to keep many players because GW is unique through it's PvP but there are better PvE games. The only reason why people keep playing GW PvE is for useless grinding/farming and because it's FREE.
And also:
Yes, it was a mistake to stop extending GW1.
And also:
More PvP-love was needed to keep many players because GW is unique through it's PvP but there are better PvE games. The only reason why people keep playing GW PvE is for useless grinding/farming and because it's FREE.
devilnuker
Ive been playing GW since it cameout and never took a "break". I say hell with GW2 everyone go play Star Wars: The Old Republic. NEW BEST MMO.
Mordakai
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Ive been playing GW since it cameout and never took a "break". I say hell with GW2 everyone go play Star Wars: The Old Republic. NEW BEST MMO.
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Yes, play the NEW BEST MMO that's not even in Beta yet...
Sheesh.
shoyon456
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Wow, the trolls get worse and worse around here.
Yes, play the NEW BEST MMO that's not even in Beta yet... Sheesh. |
The Old Republic:
No release date (but expected in '10)
No beta
Concept art
Screenshots
Trailers
Gameplay info
Fully voiced
Building a fanbase community NOW
GW2:
Some generic lore
No release date (but '10-'11 guessed from a ncsoft business timeline)
No beta (half a year after they said there would be)
No screenshots
A few scraps of "unofficial" concept art
GW1 fanbase on the decline
And no one knows WTH will be GW2's selling points, aside from that it will have all the things GW1 should have had in the first place
Hmmmm, which one do I want to be the fanboi of here? The other guy had it somewhat right.
Ravious
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Even if Arenanet released Information during PAX, who is to say we will like it? What's enough info? A painting? A screen? A cgi trailer? The Korean Branch is already into Blade&Soul, their Mmo after Aion sheduled for late 2010. Will a Gw2 timetable be enough?
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own age myname
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That's why I think GW2 is coming on about the 5 year anniversary of Guild Wars. It's far enough away from Aion's launch. It gives them plenty of time to explode on the scene without fizzling. It might be set to beat TOR and D3 out the gates. A.Net likes doing things on their anniversaries. Regina says they are meeting their in-production marks. Etc., etc., etc. Time will tell, but this is what I see through the chaos.
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