UPDATE - August 6th, 2009

Raku Clayman

Raku Clayman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Marquette MI

Elite Lan Gamer

E/Me

Tonics no longer make noise in a town or outpost.

Thank you!! Thank you!! Thank you!! That was easily the most annoying thing about being in a town.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

I get the idea that the updates for the Assassin is Anet subtly saying "Hey, play the damn class with the weapons we intended it to be played with". I prefer dagger chains to using a scythe on my Assassin anyway, so I'm fine with that

Yay Dervish changes, though none of them are anything I really use. However it's nice to see some attention paid to that profession. Now just do something to Mysticism to make it more useful.

And Comfort Animal = FTW. Now I might actually bring along a pet.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Less damage, slower recharge, same benefit (no blocking), without ending a stance.

Now, I'm not familiar with the use of that particular KD chain, but I'd think with a IAS the half a second wouldn't make a difference.

Giga_Gaia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Travelling around Tyria, Cantha, and Elona

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
The last thing PvP needs is this insane pet buff.
I'm fully aware of why they didn't change BM for PvP, that's why I said it was good nonetheless. Perhaps I didn't use the best wording, but whatever.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Guys, am I the only one who noticed the SoS fix?

FRIGGEN SIGNET OF SPIRITS!
Say hello to rit spike!

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

R/

*Looks at Mshot*
*foams from mouth*
*has heart attack*
*recovers and wonders why Anet never thinks through skill changes or adjusts skills slightly so they are still good without being overpowered*
*continues to wonder how anyone could think Mshot was OP when it was just ever other elite bow attack that was underpowered (Punishing Shot, Poison Arrow, Crip Shot)*
*Loses faith in Anet skill balancers*
Edit:
*sees pet buff and faith restores slightly*
Too bad Comfort Animal buff only applies to PvE. Oh well, my pet might see some PvE time now.
*remembers shitty pet AI and how it wasn't updated*

Thanks anway for the update Anet.
Mshot didn't need a nerf, though. Every other ranger elite just sucks.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Guys, am I the only one who noticed the SoS fix?

FRIGGEN SIGNET OF SPIRITS!
Say hello to rit spike!
Too bad thats pve.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kain Fz View Post
Guys, am I the only one who noticed the SoS fix?

FRIGGEN SIGNET OF SPIRITS!
Say hello to rit spike!
Whoa, somehow I missed that one.

AWESOME.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I'm gonna start using Masochism instead of Signet of Lost Souls on my Discord necros now. Better minions, higher minion cap, more damage from Death Nova, more damage from Discord, more Soul Reaping for more energy management.

Worth the tiny sacrifice imo.

Bug John

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Alvito View Post
Teams have to take multiple Paragons to heal the lord without screwing over their tiebreaker.
rofl

so that's why they're using paragons, they heal the lord, lol

you made my day ^^


I'm happy with the buffs, if only they could be less random...

on a pve point of view, I absolutely love this update, screw the QQers asking for nerfs

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

No Necro love once again, and gimmick sin builds to run rampant.

Seriously, Necro love please.

Tomm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/R

Conviction

Now R/D won't be better than real dervishes anymore.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

The water magic buffs should be interesting for PvP. Flag runners + winter's embrace could be quite ouch. Slippery Ground looks like a decent way to knock down rangers in your base, or enemy warriors. I mean, the two together are better than one meteor to the head, or at least it seems so on paper?

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Selfless Spirit = monk players rolling their heads on the keyboard for easy pve

Conviction + mystic regen = ^^

Signet of Deadly Corruption - I see it on */A HM assassins promise discordway support bars

Shroud of Distress - lawl

pve cant get easier

edit: pets also got a major buff - no more QQ plx ><

edit2:

Quote:
Fixed a bug that caused one of the Druids to get stuck during the bonus objective in the Bloodstone Fen mission.
omg omg omg omg

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

Lol masochism.

Nearly forgot about poisned heart then.

Lol poisioned heart.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jiggles View Post
Lol masochism.
I agree. It's funny how so many people think that an additional 2 points in death magic/soul reaping are going to make their powerful builds omgwtfbbqCRAZYYYYYYYY.

Oh well. PvErs like bigger numbers, so ANet are doing a good job at that.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Yeah ummm... Sin spike much? Some of these buffs make already good chains into great ones...

Pet buffs uhhhh, YAY! Once again, something that's been called for since forever has finally been done.

I do apologize to the PvP community, as I can see this seems to be another heavily PvE centered update. However, as a PvE-er, I'm pretty excited at some of the prospects.

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

I now love Winter's Embrace.

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

OMG! Loves for the pets! Thankyouthankyouthankyou

(It's only been 4+ years.)

I am cautiously impressed with the entire thing. Won't advance more opinion until after I try some of the new-and-improveds out.

Gregslot

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

OH MY GOD SAND SHARDS!!!
AWSOME!!!
i hope it uses the same animation as Varesh uses with Earth Vortex!!!
Invoke Lightining and Chain Lightning needed that buff! Awsome!

Im finding these pve updates ackward.. i dunno, its kind of losing the GuildWars aspect of it.
Well, it all started with Hard Mode, but lets not get into that.

Glad to see some changes to some other skills, it feels good for players like me who plays with 7 different characters to have new build options.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

As far as PvE, not much changed for me, probably because I play a warrior. Melee hero AI is pretty bad, so I'm not going to start using assassin and dervish heroes. Nerf to Finale of Restoration killed one of my fun gimmick hero setups which had ridiculous amounts of shout spamming. Elementalist damage skills still suck in hard mode because of levels/armor, and necros are still better at applying AOE weakness/cracked armor. Masochism buff is useless.

I was hoping for some interesting new toys to play with to make new hero builds, like we had with the ritualist and paragon skill update (which I really liked), but there just isn't anything interesting this time.

DokkyDok

DokkyDok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Interested in finding one.

Mo/

Invoke buff is welcomed, though with chain lightning buffed as well, its still not elite-worthy.
Racway got hit with the arcane orders & finale of restoration nerf.
Conviction kills the only excuse I had to run a R/D scythe over a dervish in PvE.
Might throw Ebon Hawk over enfeebling blood on my earth hero...
Selfless spirit...what?

iTzF3aR

iTzF3aR

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Blackwood Knights [BWK] Graveyard guild, RIP Guild Wars.

A/

Although, now I am going to make a new pet team and say I am original. :>

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

weird, after this update, it seems like the .exe 'double loads' and texmod wont work with it anymore

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Yay for Chain Lightning.

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

Tbh, It's not actually awful. But it is once again ignoring PvP and making PvE easier. Actual areas need to be fixed, not buffing skills to make them lol1hitkill.

I thought this was going to be the PvP love update :(. Anyone know when thats coming along?

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Anet is effectively making monks a PvP only class. awesome guys, I mean really?

Divine Boon- I'd rather have the old one back. I actually used this with SMITING PRAYERS guys

Shielding Hands- Ok, good. dartboard, but good.

Seed of Life- Still don't care

Selfless Spirit- Nerfed to hell. This was a fine skill for monks, and was usable better then Divine Spirit. Playing actively doesn't work in most PvE. just, no. I don't want a crappy Air of Enchantment for spells.

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

[Blah blah]
[Blah blah]
Ranger

* Melandru's Shot: increased recharge to 12 seconds.
[Blah blah]
[Blah blah]

wtf mate.

maxxfury

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

[DVDF] Gp

Me/A

The ones that cought MY eye..

Selfless Spirit
One step closer to the ER infoozer elem! without needin AP.
<3
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer View Post
Selfless Spirit = monk players rolling their heads on the keyboard for easy pve
Divine Boon
yummy boon prot was always my fave monking era
<3

Comfort Animal!
ABOUT TIMES AYE!!!
+"Pets in PvE take 33% less damage and deal 33% more damage in combat. "
<3

STILL waiting for a Spiritual pain UN-nerf
</3

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel View Post
Selfless Spirit- Nerfed to hell. This was a fine skill for monks, and was usable better then Divine Spirit. Playing actively doesn't work in most PvE. just, no. I don't want a crappy Air of Enchantment for spells.
I'd say it was a buff. It no longer ends if you heal yourself or use a non-target spell like Aegis or Heal Party and can be maintained all of the time now.

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

so far alot of good things allthough i do see some over used skills comign to pvp that will get a nerf really quick

Raminus

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

GN

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
Random dartboard buffs without addressing any actual issues, in both PvP and PvE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
more completely unnecessary buffs and total negligence toward NEEDED nerfs

let me be the first to congratulate anet on creating more soon-to-be problems to stack on top of the problems the game already has.
Hello? Beast mastery has been broken for years now, with the community constantly calling for at least a merging of comfort animal and charm animal. Pets can actually be a viable option in pve now, without being naught but skill-disablers. Pretty necessary buff IMO, and they certainly took their time too. (Dervs have also been improved for PVE, where at times they stank.)
As for nerfs, I don't know which you might be referring to - uwsc, shadow form in general, discord heroes?
edit: I got too excited over the pet buffs; I've missed all the monk buffs. no comments

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by poasiods View Post
[Blah blah]
[Blah blah]
Ranger

* Melandru's Shot: increased recharge to 12 seconds.
[Blah blah]
[Blah blah]

wtf mate.
I KNOW, RIGHT?
Why couldn't they make it 10 seconds? Not that it needed a nerf.

While you're at it nerf Dshot, Savage Shot, Apply Poison, Natural Stride, Lightning Reflexes, Burning Arrow, and Magebane. I hear they're good skills, too.

@ Above Post ^
The buffs to BM in PvE was welcome, but bar compression is still needed in PvP if it ever wants to see serious play. Also, 33% less/more damage taken/given? Pretty mindless if you ask me.

P.S.
-->SHAAADOOOW FOOORM<--

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raminus View Post
Hello? Beast mastery has been broken for years now, with the community constantly calling for at least a merging of comfort animal and charm animal. Pets can actually be a viable option in pve now, without being naught but skill-disablers. Pretty necessary buff IMO, and they certainly took their time too. (Dervs have also been improved for PVE, where at times they stank.)
As for nerfs, I don't know which you might be referring to - uwsc, shadow form in general, discord heroes? Personally I don't think any drastic nerfs are necessary at the moment, and I'm very satisfied with this update.
Making something that wasn't useful into something that's overpowered while not doing a thing to the current problems in PvE != addressing real issues.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Invoke Lightning - it's still bad ><

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Least we know warriors are still the most (only?) balanced class in the game.

Show Some Skin

Show Some Skin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

Dead.

[Game]

Rt/

SOOOOO happy for the Tonic noise removal Yetti noises were getting so annoying

therangereminem

therangereminem

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/Mo

Golden Phoenix Strike and jungle strike are bugged atm they dont do eoe dmage

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by the Puppeteer View Post
Invoke Lightning - it's still bad ><
Well, me and some friends used to run Invoke spike in HA, and I gotta say, killing 5 targets with one Invoke spike on an altar; it's amazing.

Gonzo_Neo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

P/W

Sand Shards-> No varesh Earth Vortex animation

Well, is good to see the Pet update at least ^^