There's been some discussion of ANet nerfing UWSC. I have a feeling they might do this in the next update. Disregarding whether this would be a good or bad idea, assume it is true and share your preferred method for nerfing it if they were to do it.
I'll propose that they simply change rend enchantments to a skill instead of a spell. No other changes.
Thoughts?
Best way to nerf UWSC?
aubee
slowerpoke
roll back shadow form
XxSanctusxX
Make sliver only do damage when a spell or attack actually hits you..
zelgadissan
My preferred method, you say?
- Deadly Paradox lasts for 10 seconds and disables all skills for 10 seconds.
- Shadow Form uninstalls your game and emails Anet with permission and a request to close your account.
On a more serious note, I'd like to see Shadow Form back to the way it was, you could still farm very easily with it when it had downtime. I don't want to see the rest of this happen but if Anet really wants to end gimmick builds and speed clears, either of the following could probably do it:
- No more than three or four of a primary profession in a group at the same time.
- No more than three or four of the same skill in a group at the same time.
- Deadly Paradox lasts for 10 seconds and disables all skills for 10 seconds.
- Shadow Form uninstalls your game and emails Anet with permission and a request to close your account.
On a more serious note, I'd like to see Shadow Form back to the way it was, you could still farm very easily with it when it had downtime. I don't want to see the rest of this happen but if Anet really wants to end gimmick builds and speed clears, either of the following could probably do it:
- No more than three or four of a primary profession in a group at the same time.
- No more than three or four of the same skill in a group at the same time.
Haxor
Functionality change:
Shadow Form
Enemies now ignore you. You cannot deal any damage whilst enchanted with Shadow Form.
Shadow Form
Enemies now ignore you. You cannot deal any damage whilst enchanted with Shadow Form.
Slasher of Darkness
eerm, I was just thinking bout that before, but how bout make SF cast time like 5 or 6 sec? heheh..
therangereminem
nerfing sliver isnt the option there is newer build i use that dont use sliver at all or a/e at all you can do pools pits wastes mtn all without a/e.
as for nerfing shadow form not goign to happen if they nerf shadow form they need to nerf 55 monking and 600 rit and monk and so on its a farming way .
so instead of nerfing shadowform they need to change uwsc easy way to do this. make it so you can only take one quest in uw at a time and when one person takes it everyone gets it .so in doing this it makes it wher eyou cant split only issue with this is restore. They should just make this be a effect not really a quest once you finish the first quest. this way perma isnt nerfed just the fact doing uw in under 8 min is lol
as for nerfing shadow form not goign to happen if they nerf shadow form they need to nerf 55 monking and 600 rit and monk and so on its a farming way .
so instead of nerfing shadowform they need to change uwsc easy way to do this. make it so you can only take one quest in uw at a time and when one person takes it everyone gets it .so in doing this it makes it wher eyou cant split only issue with this is restore. They should just make this be a effect not really a quest once you finish the first quest. this way perma isnt nerfed just the fact doing uw in under 8 min is lol
Killamus
Sliver armor:
For 10 seconds you have a 5...75..90% chance to block. Whenever you block an attack in this way your attacker takes x...xx damage.
For 10 seconds you have a 5...75..90% chance to block. Whenever you block an attack in this way your attacker takes x...xx damage.
Rugar
Remove consumables.
Sarevok Thordin
Give enemies chillblains?
clear
Remove the Underworld from the game.
madriel222
Signet of Disenchantment all over Plains.
Unreal Havoc
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Originally Posted by aubee
There's been some discussion of ANet nerfing UWSC.
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therangereminem
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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
Give enemies chillblains?
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but yeah way to fail and know your skills
waeland
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Originally Posted by XxSanctusxX
Make sliver only do damage when a spell or attack actually hits you..
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upier
Just release GW2.
aubee
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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc
Where is this discussion?
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clear
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Originally Posted by aubee
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Schnellburg
Why do we have two threads of this going? Just make SF duration shorter, or have UW have areas where Signet of Disenchantment present. Only real ways to nerf it completely. But you would think with the release of Aion right around the corner, any nerfing they had in mind would be going out the window.
Elephantaliste
each time a quest is taken, don't allow any new quest for 4 minutes...
NeHoMaR
Sorry, I just play PvP, what the hell is UWSC?
IronSheik
Signet of disenchant everywhere
Unreal Havoc
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Originally Posted by clear
I think he was asking where Anet has stated this...
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Thor Tyr
add a group of 5 charged to the requirement for spawning each of the reapers and make sliver target charged last
Zan Usi Quan
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Originally Posted by zelgadissan
- No more than three or four of the same skill in a group at the same time.
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oh so no rezz signets
zelgadissan
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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc
Where is this discussion?
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Originally Posted by June Developer Updates
Players have long asked for our viewpoint on these ways of playing through content. For the most part, we think these are acceptable ways of playing Guild Wars but may occasionally take steps to increase their difficulty or even block a particular build. For instance, when it comes to Shadow Form, there is little concern about solo farming in most places; however, the speed clears of our most difficult content have become fast enough to warrant a more watchful eye. Over the coming months we will monitor these areas and, starting with Cry of Pain, make adjustments where necessary.
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Edit: nobody likes res signets
But that could be an exception. Like I said, I don't want to see that but I won't be surprised if it comes to it at some point.
BlueNovember
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Originally Posted by therangereminem
this wont work becuz its a spell you can not target somone with chabs if ther ein shadowform. if they target it on somone that isnt in sf and your next to them it willremove sf however.
but yeah way to fail and know your skills |
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Originally Posted by therangereminem
if they nerf shadow form they need to nerf 55 monking and 600 rit and monk and so on its a farming way .
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Shursh
i don't really have anything against speedclears, but if you really wanted to slow them down, just make the chest appear after XX minutes, even if the party has completed 10/10 quests.
they could make it whatever they want - 30 minutes, 40, etc.
they could make it whatever they want - 30 minutes, 40, etc.
Eragon Zarroc
there are pvp and pve skill versions. make a new category "elite missions" skill versions. make that version of SF cause insta-death to the caster :-P *Sigh*
jiggles
3sec cast time on SF.
Pleikki
Make SF Stance.....
AlysWarder
Why is it always shadowform yall want nerfed?
Is it because you cant figure out how to keep it up or what?
Honestly the only thing in GW keeping me in is DoA. Which is insain without SF; going back to 3+h runs, forget that.
GWs is not about the puny "elite area" known as UW. UW sucks, 7 noobs and one "pro" who has been there once before can victory UW with just about any set of retarded builds. DoA is unforgiving and relentless. Do DoA.
Is it because you cant figure out how to keep it up or what?
Honestly the only thing in GW keeping me in is DoA. Which is insain without SF; going back to 3+h runs, forget that.
GWs is not about the puny "elite area" known as UW. UW sucks, 7 noobs and one "pro" who has been there once before can victory UW with just about any set of retarded builds. DoA is unforgiving and relentless. Do DoA.
Vesta
Make it so that SF is more easily be maintained with less energy cost per cycle, but make SF end when you cast a non-assassin spell.
Hells Fury
Go ahead nerf. We'll adapt as always and still get <30 minutes. Go terra E/Me! Maybe combined with 600/smite.
Xsiriss
Make ectos only drop for non-sins with mroe than 3 in a party.Simples yis?
BlueNovember
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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Sorry, I just play PvP, what the hell is UWSC?
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Originally Posted by Hell Darkblight
Go ahead nerf. We'll adapt as always and still get <30 minutes. Go terra E/Me! Maybe combined with 600/smite.
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It's probably also worth noting that it's not just the people who don't use it that think it should be nerfed.
Bryant Again
Short-term: Nerf SF
Long-term: Fix PvE
Long-term: Fix PvE
Lydeck
I don't even farm ,but doing this wouldn't be too smart. It'd be like nerfing hammerdins on Diablo II. You don't nerf builds that everyone is using in a game with a low population.
Just imo, though.
Just imo, though.
XxSanctusxX
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Originally Posted by waeland
No please. You will kill many terra farming builds which are all already less effective/harder to play than 600 monks or permasins. Why solving overpowered sin elite by cripling earth magic skill?
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Tbh, i think they should change something, but still make it possible. Shouts (like the incubii one) that strip 1 enchant, so you have to work with covers, and together to achieve it. UWSC's role in GW has become to big to delete it now I think. This has nothing to do with the fact that I only UWSC every 2 weeks or so.
BlueXIV
The easiest non-intrusive way to nerf uwsc would be just to change the AI of the dryders to make them use lava font with one person next to them