Best way to nerf UWSC?

You can hit them with sliver and be out of lava font, only pools would suck tbh.

Sliver=Area
Lava=Adjacent

Bah. I thought lava font was nearby, woops :\.

How bout changing lava font to nearby? :P

Are we really going to talk about this again? Almost every week this topic comes up and the same suggestions are regurgateted over and over.

It's too easy to nerf uwsc.....make any one part of UW harder for perma will nerf it. Ex: 1) a group of mesmers(4-5) on mtn that always spawn at the reaper's place with energy depleting signets. 2) Make mindblade specters have signet of weariness, there goes plains. There are lots more ways to nerf uwsc.....Shadow Form is fragile, one mistake, one lag, one misstep and the entire SC goes down like a house of cards, which is also why pugs are more prone to fail.

But without Shadow Form, UW is un-doable, after all, has there ever been a team that can complete all the quests before uwsc came? No, there is, and will not be one, uw is too tough for that.

I agree. I'm not sure Anet wants to be pissing people off this late in the game. I know whole guilds and alliances of people who would /uninstall if they nerfed perma. xD

And if Anet does decide to change SF, I really hope they keep in mind that not everyone does UWSC or abuses SF.

Nerfing skills would just be stupid. People will always figure out how to farm dungeons with different skills as long as the dungeons are "farmable"

Imo, make each floor of each elite dungeon change. For example, have a set of floor designs for each dungeon (lets say 4 for each level) and when you enter the level that dungeon rotates at random between the floor designs. That way, you would never know what you would have to deal with (although, eventually I'm sure people would figure out how to do each level and it's rotations, but it would be harder). Adding different traps and things like that to each floor would also help.

Of course....none of that would never happen. GW doesn't have enough of a Live Team (how is one person a "team" again?) to do anything like that. They'll probably just buff monsters in those dungeons or make each dungeon progress based on events (in other words, you have to do x to get to y, etc.)

Just make shadow form un-maintainable, even with customables. But it would make SF useless. Remember, long time ago it was great for farming gemstones with our eles.

So, i guess... lasts for max. 30 seconds, recharge time: 120 seconds.

This would fix it.
Good idea
+ I have nothing against speed clears.. but.. UW has gotten a tiny bit too fast:P

On the other hand, I don't see why Anet would nerft SF... would make 70% of all players(sins) /ragequit.
They might make it harder, but not impossible to maintain.


LOL @ this xD

Add environmental effects to the Underworld, like the ones encountered in the Realm of Torment/Urgoz's Warren/the Deep.

Lolwut?

Are you confusing UW with DoA HM by any chance(even in that case it's an exaggeration, but only slightly)? Or just being hyperbolic? UW lameway is doable, just long, boring, and unrewarding.

once again another thread talking about how to nerf shadow form. my opinion.... leave it. why does it really need to be fixed or nerfed? because you can't find a group to do UW or FoW? boo hoo for you. Find a guild that does balanced builds or what ever you are looking for. I know there are some out there that don't do speed clears. So in my opinion, just leave it.

Best way to nerf UWSC is to make Shadow Form unmaintainable...

Sliver armor now deals damage when a target attacks you, so instead leave it EXACTLY THE SAME except make the damage dealt be dealt when an attack hits OR is blocked, that way it doesnt kill terra farmers but it destroys the shadowform+sliver combo

make rare materials like diamonds/gemstones/ectos/shards/saphires/ not drop anymore.
Make it so that people only get em when they actually finish all quests or goals that make the endchests pop up

What exactly does that do? UWSC is done for the end chest, there's FAR better ways to farm ectos then UWSC. All this would do would make ecto prices double.

So nerf all the solo/duo farming and promote SC? No thanks.

Not all groups make it to the end, ooo its so hard to think straight I guess

Apparently they are thinking of redoing the whole zone rather than adjusting the necessary skills.

Signet of disenchantment could be one part of the answer.

Environmental effects that make enchantments expire more quickly and/or drain energy are other possibilities.

Put the PvP effect in place in UW. Consumables can't be used, pvp versions of skills, and no pve skills.

That should do it. If nothing else, the resulting rage would be highly amusing.

edit: My preferred method is to wait and see what action is taken.