XTH has become an epic fail

WinterSnowblind

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
I know people who would not play GW at all, but would come in once every month to make and pick up their XTH picks.

By "keep playing" do you mean, occasionally still log in? Otherwise, how is the XTH a motivation to do anything? It takes all of 30 minutes, once every month, to make picks and get your rewards.
Well, for me personally it gave me a supply of money to continue getting armour sets, skill hunter titles, alocohol/sweets, etc with. There's no new content for me to play, and I've done each of the campaigns too many times to count now.

I'm not going to replay them all just to get some more money to finish off the rest of my skill hunter title. If there's no new content coming to the game, the monthly rewards at least gave us something to continue playing for.

If you disagree, then okay, but so far the only arguement I've heard against it is "Lol, you fail".

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If you disagree, then okay, but so far the only arguement I've heard against it is "Lol, you fail".
I'm all for the XTH coming back, but I often hear more arguments against it than just "Lol, you fail".

Here are the 4 most common that I hear:
  1. It lowers the price of zkeys and adversely affects the in-game economy. In all my time of doing the XTH, I noticed that the price of zkeys was typically only lowered for 7-10 days. After that period of time, the price would commonly go back up to normal because everyone had already sold their keys from the XTH. Imo, just learn to wait a week and quit bitching.
  2. It's like the welfare system of GW. It makes poor people rich once a month. My question to this is always the same: Why do you care? I'll never understand why rich people hate it when poorer people get money. You probably have more money than them from your (1) SF farming, (2) Power Trading, (3) or you have the same amount of money and just like to whine.....so what's the problem?
  3. It allows people who buy multiple accounts to have an in-game advantage. And? Nic the Traveler does the same thing and we don't see you complaining about that. Buying multiple accounts will always provide some type of in-game advantage, because they have more accounts. And those people who buy extra accounts are giving Anet money, which is a good thing for those of us that don't want to buy more of Anet's storage panes (25% off lol). So shut up.
  4. You can earn more TRPs from the XTH than actually competing. While that can be true, I've often found that the people who competed ALSO used the XTH. So, really that's a win-win for them. Why are you complaining again?

I will never understand why people get so angry about the XTH. I loved it. It was like a little betting bracket once a month that actually kept me interested in GvG and, to a lesser extent, HB.

If they bring the XTH back, then the HB tournaments will be frozen so people will naturally make less TRPs from the XTH. Hopefully, that will get people to calm down about it.

By the way, if you complain about the XTH and still use it, then stfu. That's called hypocrisy....and it's just asinine.

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Well, for me personally it gave me a supply of money to continue getting armour sets, skill hunter titles, alocohol/sweets, etc with. There's no new content for me to play, and I've done each of the campaigns too many times to count now.

I'm not going to replay them all just to get some more money to finish off the rest of my skill hunter title. If there's no new content coming to the game, the monthly rewards at least gave us something to continue playing for.

If you disagree, then okay, but so far the only arguement I've heard against it is "Lol, you fail".
If you actually bothered trying to get skill hunter legitimately (rather then buy it with tomes), you'd know that killing every foe on the way to getting to a boss usually means you break even. Heck, I'd even say skill hunter EARNS you money in the long term.


XTH was a bad idea because it didn't achieve its stated purpose, increased interest and participation in PvP. Especially the HB tournament. People just made random guesses on that because HB players constantly change their name. Imagine trying to follow the New York Yankees, only to have their team change names to the New York Bluejackets one month, and then the Cincinnati Peppercorns the next month. And imagine EVERY team doing that.
How the heck are you supposed to follow along and support PvP? How is picking players at random doing anything at all? It became a lotto with no cost to enter, guaranteeing a win every time. What was the point of entering the XTH at all?


It is obvious when nobody voting for the XTH actually gives a dang how the PvP matches work or even what they are that the system is broken. Most people did not understand how or why qualifier points were awarded for example. A lot of people didn't even bother to check the results because they didn't remember how they voted in the first place. They just picked up their points, got their keys and money, and left. Since support and interest in GvG was the point of the XTH (after all, if it wasn't why bother organizing it that way, A.net could have made the XTH be "guess which guilds will FFF the most Kurzick faction this month" or "guess which player will complete an UWSC the most in a month." They chose the system to follow along PvP for a reason), and no support or interest in PvP actually occurred, the system was a failure.


Everybody is too busy complaining about the rewards to bother remembering the purpose of the system in the first place.

QueenofDeath

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And? Nic the Traveler does the same thing and we don't see you complaining about that. Buying multiple accounts will always provide some type of in-game advantage, because they have more accounts. And those people who buy extra accounts are giving Anet money, which is a good thing for those of us that don't want to buy more of Anet's storage panes (25% off lol). So shut up.
Sorry, but you have to actually go out and do something for Nick the Travelers gifts. It's not a million freebies just for typing in some letters or numbers online. Plus you don't get near the income from Nick as you did from XTH having multiple accounts. So, Nick isn't a big deal because it takes time to get the quest items or pay for them which isn't cost effective. XTH was totally free and a very stupid idea. And stop telling people to shutup or you shutup instead.

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Sorry, but you have to actually go out and do something for Nick the Travelers gifts. It's not a million freebies just for typing in some letters or numbers online. Plus you don't get near the income from Nick as you did from XTH having multiple accounts. So, Nick isn't a big deal because it takes time to get the quest items or pay for them which isn't cost effective. XTH was totally free and a very stupid idea. And stop telling people to shutup or you shutup instead.
Actually, a lot of people with extra accounts bot the rewards for Nic.....so essentially all they do is type in some letters or numbers and get money.

It's the same thing. If your justification for it being different is the time invested, then you missed the point of what I was saying.

Oh, and the "shutups" in my post were obviously intentioned to be sarcastic.....so shut up

WinterSnowblind

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If you actually bothered trying to get skill hunter legitimately (rather then buy it with tomes), you'd know that killing every foe on the way to getting to a boss usually means you break even. Heck, I'd even say skill hunter EARNS you money in the long term.
Actually this is how I was doing it. I suppose going through the areas would net you enough money to keep buying the capture skills, so perhaps that one was a bad example, I honestly just lost interest in doing it while I was saving my money to complete my armour sets and get the sweet tooth title.

QueenofDeath

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Actually, a lot of people with extra accounts bot the rewards for Nic
Oh really? And how can you PROVE this? Here we have another joke using frivilous statements of "a lot of people" do something without any proof or able to prove it. What are you admitting YOU BOT? Hrmmmmm? Well bots do get banned so that income will be lost when they get caught.

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Introducing the thing did nothing great for GW overall anyways. I rather see a poll on the main page here asking;
- did implementing the XTH promote intrest in the PvP relating to it?
- did the XTH make you even want to watch the games?
- because of the XTH did you even jump in and partake in some form of GvG/HvH?

If I was Anet I'd sure as hell want to know those stats...

They basically promoted another entity to spark interest through ingame rewards on the mass population that plays their game, very interesting stats to be gathered.

I haven't come across any such info so yeah, I'd agree, epic fail.

PS. No one important will read this, lost in the wall of threads/text. Maybe I should jump on the new media outlet that is hyped so much, Tweetter; did I spell it correctly?

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Oh really? And how can you PROVE this? Here we have another joke using frivilous statements of "a lot of people" do something without any proof or able to prove it. What are you admitting YOU BOT? Hrmmmmm? Well bots do get banned so that income will be lost when they get caught.
No, I personally don't bot (I only have two accounts and I'd like to keep them). However, I do have plenty of friends/people I know that do. And tbh, just go to the "farm location" where Nic is every week and watch the people exiting. You can normally tell who's a bot by the way they hug the walls. It's not that hard.

And how exactly are Nic bots going to get banned? How could they possibly get reported when literally EVERYONE is just rezoning repeatedly?

Tbh, most of the people I know that bot Nic only bot it for their own accounts rewards. However, when you have 13 accounts.....that's a lot extra.

And, btw, you missed my point entirely again. My point was that people with extra accounts will ALWAYS have an in-game advantage as long as there is rewardable, account-based content in the game. Nic the Traveler DOES reward people with extra accounts. Whether you like it or not, it's true.

QueenofDeath

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Oh I got your point alright. And just because you have a handful of socalled friends who bot (how come you don't report them for that violation? that makes you an accessory and just as guilty in case you don't know the law) doesn't mean the world bots or everybody bots or any significant value bots. You can't prove any values so that point is moot an irrelevant until you can bring up some postitive statistics and not just "I know a lot or my friends blah blah".

2ndly I don't care that people get advantages for having extra accounts that's not the problem the problem was the AMOUNT of income from these extra accounts for XTH voting. I played one time and knew nothing about PVP leaders or ladder and I won 81 frickin keys. So, that was the stupidity of XTH I can only imagine how many keys those with insight of the PVP leaders/ladder got. Thus it was economic overload unlike Nick who might hand out thousands and thousands of crap items. Unlike you and your "but I know so n so or everybody bots" I don't know the actual values weekly that Nick puts out, but, I know what I get and I know what I can read in the what did Nick drop for you thread at least that is viable unlike your frivilous grabbings of value out of thin airs.

But, the bottom line is XTH needs to stay gone. Period. Nothing more to discuss and thankfully is has been gone for quite some time now and I'm happy and that's all that matters to me. )

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(how come you don't report them for that violation? that makes you an accessory and just as guilty in case you don't know the law)
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The EULA qualifies as law now, huh?

I couldn't even read the rest of your post after that.

Hahahaha, awww man. I need to try to read the rest now.

EDIT: Read the rest. Really nothing else to add.

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in the land of no return, kinda like xth

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how come you don't report them for that violation? that makes you an accessory and just as guilty in case you don't know the law)
I never saw anything in the EULA about being an accessory to botting... this isn't CSI.

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After a couple of months of ANet ignoring XTH, i quit playing GW.. Like many, I bought extra accounts and was actually spending a few days a month observing PvP matches and seeing the meta changes and getting to know the ppl and styles of play in high rated GvG. Making predictions and watching the monthly matches. I loved it when I got a couple correct. IT was fun.

Well after they kinda sold me the accounts they kinda ditched the XTH and just kinda screwed me. So i started playing other games. Well i have spent a couple hundred dollars since i quit a few months ago on other games.. money that ANet will not get. I also was a 20-30 hour a week GW junkie now i dont think i will even buy GW2 or AIon for that matter.

I dont know if others feel the same way but ANet had me from pre sear and somehow just screwed it up with the misqueues and i feel they have alienated me.

HAHA, man...I played this game since beta and just found this thread today. I have spent 4k+ hours ingame, and have a r9 HA account. I had to look XTH up because I have never once used it, nor did I know what it was. If **THIS** is why you quit GW I wonder why you ever played in the first place...

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No, I personally don't bot (I only have two accounts and I'd like to keep them). However, I do have plenty of friends/people I know that do.
Friends don't let friends bot...

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Facts for us grown-up people:

1. Xunlai House gambling will NOT return, so you can stop whining about it.

2. Regina and the Arena Net crew don't really give a flying fig how you feel about it.

3. After Nerfing the Treasure Chests in 10/07, destroying the Xunlai House Gambling this year, Nicholas and the Z-mission/bounty/battle system is next.

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Zkeys and nick's presents generate very little cash, and ectos remain the "protected" currency. Anet doesn't particularly care how keys tank. XTH will only fail to return due to them not willing to put manpower into it. (not that I care much)

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To be honest I think all those people out there crying so badly after XTH are people that somehow got access to 6/7/10/you name it friend accounts and were abusing the system by making predictions for all of them and kind of farming XTH.

That was never a fair advantage. Those people could make millions every month for doing nothing. It's what you would call charity turned into corruption.

If you had a single account and played normally you wouldn't really miss XTH. Doing a boss zbounty gives 1k, doing that on 5 toons usually takes... 15 mins? and you already have 5k and zcoins?

You can get money faaar easier today than you could do it before. I've literally started from 0 gold in stash to having enough money to craft myself an elite armor set in the same day. When I started guild wars this would have been a miracle.

So I would advise you guys to go play and make the cash... it's really easy and actually fun to feel like you did something (than just waited for the monthly giveaway).

AngelWJedi

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To be honest I think all those people out there crying so badly after XTH are people that somehow got access to 6/7/10/you name it friend accounts and were abusing the system by making predictions for all of them and kind of farming XTH.

That was never a fair advantage. Those people could make millions every month for doing nothing. It's what you would call charity turned into corruption.

If you had a single account and played normally you wouldn't really miss XTH. Doing a boss zbounty gives 1k, doing that on 5 toons usually takes... 15 mins? and you already have 5k and zcoins?

You can get money faaar easier today than you could do it before. I've literally started from 0 gold in stash to having enough money to craft myself an elite armor set in the same day. When I started guild wars this would have been a miracle.

So I would advise you guys to go play and make the cash... it's really easy and actually fun to feel like you did something (than just waited for the monthly giveaway).
i only had a single acRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and i do miss xth. and your stats on the z stuff is wrong. not all bosses and missions can use the same builds/weapons/runes so once you get done fixing those on x-number of chars the money you make isnt worth it.

i did play the game and still do but i also waited for xth. it helped not only my ziashen title it also helped my skills,id and if i got consumables/picks those titles as well. most of our "crying" is that they rarely giving us info on it and if they do remove it they still have to pay us for may month we never got. and yeah farming for money is semi easy. But after runes/armors/title items/extra you will be broke again. XTH only helped us so we would have time to actually play the game and not farm for money some months.

And in the end if you really hate XTH why are posting in a thread for it?

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most of our "crying" is that they rarely giving us info on it and if they do remove it they still have to pay us for may month we never got.
If you didn't know by now, Anet not responding to this situation means they have already given their answer. And they don't have to do shit about previous months.

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And in the end if you really hate XTH why are posting in a thread for it?
We are posting in a thread saying it is an epic failure.

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If I could post XTH on failblog it would be #1

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XTH IS an epic fail.... not "has become an epic fail"

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Bring Back XTH, and make it so that you can only use reward points for updating PvP Armor.... That way it still gives the people interested in PvP a reason to predict. That way those people who have 30+ accounts will either have really nice PvP Character Armor or disregaurd the predictions all together. Just a thought :/

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It's true, the incredibly poor CR coupled with the incompetent programming team (5 months - seriously?!) has really discouraged me from ever purchasing anything more from ANet. I'll probably buy GW2 in the hopes that it will be good and a worthy investment, but I'll probably stop playing in months when they pull the same bullshit they've been pulling with the original Guild Wars.

On another note, I was going to buy Aion when I heard about it since it sounded really cool, but again - this complete lack of CR and work on the part of ANet has led me to believe that Aion will suffer the same fate, 70$+ of worthlessness.

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It's true, the incredibly poor CR coupled with the incompetent programming team (5 months - seriously?!) has really discouraged me from ever purchasing anything more from ANet. I'll probably buy GW2 in the hopes that it will be good and a worthy investment, but I'll probably stop playing in months when they pull the same bullshit they've been pulling with the original Guild Wars.

On another note, I was going to buy Aion when I heard about it since it sounded really cool, but again - this complete lack of CR and work on the part of ANet has led me to believe that Aion will suffer the same fate, 70$+ of worthlessness.
You know Aion has absolutely nothing to do with ANet, right?

You also know that judging the work of the full development team by what a group of less than 5 programmers can keep together with regards to a mostly out-of-game feature in a largely abandoned game is just maybe a little short-sighted?

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You know Aion has absolutely nothing to do with ANet, right?

You also know that judging the work of the full development team by what a group of less than 5 programmers can keep together with regards to a mostly out-of-game feature in a largely abandoned game is just maybe a little short-sighted?
To be honest, most of his post about the CR was true and always has been even before the less-than-full development team. It is true though that Aion has nothing to do with it.

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To be honest, most of his post about the CR was true and always has been even before the less-than-full development team. It is true though that Aion has nothing to do with it.
Some personnel are shared either at NC soft HQ or somewhere, if there were no association between GW and Aion, /aion emote wouldn't be in GW.

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Bring back XTH or make a special guy sell Zkeys for 2k ea...

That would be fair !

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Bring back XTH or make a special guy sell Zkeys for 2k ea...

That would be fair !
Hahaha right, free gold generator, awful trolling there. Unless you were serious, in which case I'd suggest you plugged your brain into the socket before posting.

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Some personnel are shared either at NC soft HQ or somewhere, if there were no association between GW and Aion, /aion emote wouldn't be in GW.
Of course there is an association: Aion was developed by the NCSoft HQ office (NCKorea) and re-launched for the western market by NCWest. ArenaNet is a subsidiary of NCSoft, and I believe NCWest is or acts much like a subsidary to NCSoft (HQ) also. But that's as far as the relationship goes; there have been no personel shared. Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 are both developed purely by ArenaNet, with NCSoft handling some peripheral services like customer support (not to be confused with community management.)

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A moderator to close this danged thread.
Me too but I'd rather have it as a Halloween treat. )

Oh and just bury XTH we just don't need another easy exploit in the game for players making easy gold. Get rid of this, nerf SF and make SC in the high end areas require 30 minutes of play and no more random ecto drops and everything will be fine. )

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Yes, it is an epic fail and that feature of the game has been removed. This also shows us how GW2 would be like:

ANet annoucement to their community: There is a bug in our XTH implementation and we are going to fix it!......(aside) yeah in 10 years time...

I am not going to trust anything they say from now on. That's my lesson learnt, I suggest those of you who are still waiting for XTH to return, to do the same.

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Yes, it is an epic fail and that feature of the game has been removed. This also shows us how GW2 would be like:

ANet annoucement to their community: There is a bug in our XTH implementation and we are going to fix it!......(aside) yeah in 10 years time...

I am not going to trust anything they say from now on. That's my lesson learnt, I suggest those of you who are still waiting for XTH to return, to do the same.
Yup, sorry ANet, but the way you handle small things in GW1 is the only evidence I have for how you will handle problems in GW2. the XTH by itself is no big deal - I didn't buy an extra accounts to take advantage of it or anything.

It's just one more in a whole string of small unresolved or poorly implemented issues that lets me know I don't want to do more business with the company.

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I think they will send XTH soon up again because now the ectos got nerfed and the economic is going crazy

Martin Alvito

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Dumping zkeys into the system isn't the way to solve any of the economic issues in GW.

I agree that the failure to fix XTH doesn't look good for ANet. They made a promise and did not keep it. This surprised me greatly (even though I'm glad to see it gone), because XTH was such a big deal for so many people.

I am surprised that this thread remains open despite multiple instances of mild thread necromancy.

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Martin, we are hoping they'll just make a simple statement, instead of pretending this whole thing never happened. Even if it's that XTH won't receive further testing or support, that'll kill the issue. Instead, we don't deserve an explanation, and that irks many. This is the new, improved CR we are talking about.

QueenofDeath

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I don't need an explanation about XTH it's gone and that's all the really mattered. Soon SF and then we can move onto other things to make the game more balanced for everyone. )

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well XTH..ok really Anet? I'd like to know how Anet can remove HB and TA and put in Sealed deck (Codex Arena)..which I still stand by that they only needed to remove TA, but nonetheless....how can they be adding a new outpost with different gameplay for PvP, but yet XTH hasnt really even progressed yet and IS still down!!!

Also, if they say they have the number of RP people were suppose to get..there jsut working on a bug..why cant they kinda just give us our points and keep working on it??

Finally, really? you update XTH Anet..and it fails enormously, i dont know about others..but I was doing fine with the way XTH was b4 the failed update...especially now that HB is gone, and Codex Arena really has no turney system i see any time soon, IF it did come back would it just be GvG? - yes i know, its a little big and i can bee seen as raging, but XTH was failed in May predictions (giving points out in June)..its almost November...coming around 7 months on 1 bug..btw Happy Halloween all

Longasc

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It seems ANet is hiring a new web designer who should also be able to include some Web 2.0 features into GW2.

This guy would probably have to show his merits by making the XTH work smooth both ingame and on the web.

My cents regarding the XTH debacle and the recent job offer. I wonder if the XTH guys got replaced or fired.

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good insight, longasc. That was certainly ineptitude in its most visible fashion.

Would still be nice to get an official word about their plans with XTH.