Red Resigns: What will Anet do about this?

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Chocobo1
Chocobo1
Desert Nomad
#21
Oh wow this is brilliant. PvE'rs sitting in base waiting for me to resign while I cap the entire map. Eventually they realize I am not going to resign and just leave.

Gj guys, I win 100% of the time for playing legit. Most of the time they are using terrible builds and have no real chance of winning anyway. I'll deal with the hissing and cursing I get for playing legitimately.
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Felix Infelicium
Ascalonian Squire
#22
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
Cheating? This is a joke.

Anet created Hero Battles.
Anet created Titles that take ridiculous amount of time to max.
Anet created Zaishen Combat rewards.

The fact that players have created what is known as Red Resign Day shows how flawed title implementation and Zaishen combat rewards are.

Anet, you created this "problem". Then you point the finger at the players for coming up with a way to achieve a title/rewards through a means that you made possible! Way to shift the blame. Look in the mirror first if you want the real culprit of this problem.
Just because its there doesn't mean you should do it. If you found a wallet on the ground it doesn't mean you take all the money inside. Same principle.

Edit: Blame the lack of integrity and morals in today's people as well.
Esprit
Esprit
Desert Nomad
#23
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Originally Posted by Felix Infelicium View Post
Just because its there doesn't mean you should do it. If you found a wallet on the ground it doesn't mean you take all the money inside. Same principle.

Edit: Blame the lack of integrity and morals in today's people as well.
Anet set the bar, and people will always try to get above that bar, always. The wallet is a bad example, it's not the same.

Anet realized that without this reward system, they would lose a lot of players. To maintain a greater player base, Zaishen Rewards were implemented. And of course, as it is human nature, people will try to maximize the amount of rewards in as little time as possible.

Create content that people are willing to play without the need of such a bloated reward system and people will not have a need to cheat. This example is not exactly apples to apples, but look at older FPS games, such as Unreal Tournament or Battlefield. There was no stat tracking initially, but tons of people played again and again. You achieve that content Anet and you don't need a reward system.
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AlsPals
Lion's Arch Merchant
#24
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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
Create content that people are willing to play without the need of such a bloated reward system and people will not have a need to cheat. This example is not exactly apples to apples, but look at older FPS games, such as Unreal Tournament or Battlefield. There was no stat tracking initially, but tons of people played again and again. You achieve that content Anet and you don't need a reward system.
Eh, not really good to compare FPS to RPGs. In GW, tangible rewards are all you can get without investing time in build wars(gvg...). In an FPS, going batshit after cramming barrels of bullets into other peoples faces and getting a 50/1 kill ratio feels better than anything in GW short of winning a GvG or HA match...back before Factions.
Saborath Gilgalad
Saborath Gilgalad
Krytan Explorer
#25
Hopefully nothing, because Anet has far more important things to do with their time.
Black Metal
Black Metal
Desert Nomad
#26
yeah, since HB is going away, I doubt they'll dedicate any resources to it. Heck, they don't have any resources at all, as evidenced to their list of Q3/Q4 accomplishments.
Winstar
Winstar
Jungle Guide
#27
With roll 100 which seems like a similar case they simply removed the ability to use it outside outposts/halls/etc. If they want to do something about it just make it so that your don't update the quest if you win was through a resignation. Better yet, just remove HB like they were planning to.
Marverick
Marverick
Forge Runner
#28
How to beat the system: don't resign and the other noob will just leave because it's quicker for him to find someone else who resigns.

If enough people do this then RR will end.
Keyez
Keyez
Lion's Arch Merchant
#29
Because of the extremely limited time we have left with HB, anet will most definately let this slide. I think getting in there and having a go even if you're doing nothing for it is better than anet nerfing the zquest before removing HB altogether.
Winterclaw
Winterclaw
Wark!!!
#30
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
Cheating? This is a joke.

Anet created Hero Battles.
Anet created Titles that take ridiculous amount of time to max.
Anet created Zaishen Combat rewards.

The fact that players have created what is known as Red Resign Day shows how flawed title implementation and Zaishen combat rewards are.

Anet, you created this "problem". Then you point the finger at the players for coming up with a way to achieve a title/rewards through a means that you made possible! Way to shift the blame. Look in the mirror first if you want the real culprit of this problem.
That. We should have a RR weekend for HA the next time they do one of those bonus weekends for them. That'll show them not to make titles that require too much time commitment.
Dallcingi
Dallcingi
Desert Nomad
#31
Just add yellow and green!
Narcissia
Narcissia
Wilds Pathfinder
#32
I predict that they'll remove HB to fix it.
Chocobo1
Chocobo1
Desert Nomad
#33
Funny, haven't met a red that resigned yet. Still 100% victory at the moment, PvE'rs can't PvP </3.
Mr. Undisclosed
Mr. Undisclosed
I phail
#34
Lol nothing of course.

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1 View Post
Funny, haven't met a red that resigned yet. Still 100% victory at the moment, PvE'rs can't PvP </3.
wait...hb is pvp?!? Oh I guess it sorta is, in the same way ab is lmao
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
#35
Lol, what can they possibly do? Ask players to report others who are throwing the games? Players that throw the games and those that don't naturally separate from each other, so that would probably dissolve fast. And it's not like they can stop the throwing of matches unless they add Dishonor, which seems to me like a silly thing to do.

It's not like any of this will matter once the arena gets closed, but ANet really should have some good ideas on how to enforce their judgment before they start writing and interpreting their own rulebook.
sthpaw
sthpaw
Frost Gate Guardian
#36
lol, i got told off for winning while being red. cause i was capping and killing his party, the scrub put me on ignore and flamed me so funny.

too bad im at work atm would have liked to get some more pts quicker
Lihinel
Lihinel
Academy Page
#37
What they will do?

Judging on how they handled their own rules in the past (design a npc contest) I would say they either do nothing, or give out free ecto to everybody that /resigns.

(Sorry guys, love the game, but the difference in what you say and what you do make you look like hypocrites. I am looking at you Mind Burn Elementalist picking judge)
Eragon Zarroc
Eragon Zarroc
Atra estern?? ono thelduin
#38
HB will be removed, that is what's being done about it. doing anything about it between now and that time is nothing more than a waste of the live team's time for such a temporary solution.
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Vazze
Krytan Explorer
#39
lol...15 districts. I was a bit surprised to see so many, easy ~60k/h.

I guess it isn't surprising when only 2-3 ppl are supervising the whole mess. Or perhaps this is covered by the "lets not do anything until mainstream" policy as well? Either way, GW does feel neglected.
N E D M
N E D M
Desert Nomad
#40
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Originally Posted by Marverick View Post
How to beat the system: don't resign and the other noob will just leave because it's quicker for him to find someone else who resigns.

If enough people do this then RR will end.
Its too big.
You would have as much luck getting people to stop spam- selling in Kamadan...
HB will be gone soon, along with this brokenness, until then...
gotta tough it out - either play RR or do what chocobo does -
EDIT : chocobo, noone resigns for you because you dont for them.
so while you win100% of your matches, they are all winning 10x as many by saving 10 minutes per game.
You cannot win