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thedarkmarine

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Dec 2009 at 02:18 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhongzh

Why are people thinking that asking us for an *optional* purchase with absolutely no impact on the game is a stupid idea? Do they not understand the basics of business? Anet isn't some charity running this game out of the goodness of their hearts. They need to make money, plain and simple.

duh, bucuse if i dun wanna it, it must b stoopid idea, amirite?

dr love

...is in denial

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

starcraft 2

P/Me

18 Dec 2009 at 02:23 - 122

they got my money... twice

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:23 - 123

so youre saying they should either have the costumes for free to everyone or not in the game at all?

wow that makes total sense.... hell why should people have an optional choice to support the people that make a game theyve enjoyed for so long. thats absurd

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

18 Dec 2009 at 02:24 - 124

man the grenth mask doesn't look good at all but the rest of the costume is sweet. I'm going to buy that one for sure, don't really like the dwayna one though.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:26 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Ok, so people are saying "$10 for a COSTUME".

So, what WOULD you pay extra for? Leet stats weapons or armour? Access to skills? A more powerful pet?

More than anything else: Content. I paid for every campaign + eotn (more than once actually). I bought the BMP. Was not a lot of content, but it was something playable. Even paid for 2 character slots so I could have one of each class and a PvP toon. Never regretted those purchases (except the char slots are kinda steep. See below).

For some reason anet seems to have it's mind wrapped around certain numeric breakpoints, and it leads, as far as I'm concerned, to most of the stuff in the store being overpriced.

$5 for a level-up aide (igneous stone)? Should be a dollar, max.
$10 for 20 slots of storage? We should get all 4 pages for that.
$10 for 5 makeovers? Ok, my monk is ugly enough that I'd pay $2 for one, but I won't pay for 5 at that price.

Don't even get me started on the ridiculousness that is the "ubermakeover" or whatever the hell it's called.

Arenanet/NCSoft (whoever is making the pricing decisions) are missing the "micro" part of "microtransaction" when you can get actual full games for the cost of any one of these "upgrades" on similar systems (XBL, WiiShop, etc...)

x sithis x

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

[Pro]

N/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:26 - 126

HA HA HA HA people are QQing in towns that gw is p2p because you have to buy the new stuff xD ... thats so darn funny ... anet needs money for gw2, you dont need it, you dont have a monthly fee so people stop QQing about how it cost a measly $10

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

18 Dec 2009 at 02:32 - 127

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

so youre saying they should either have the costumes for free to everyone or not in the game at all?

Not in the game at all.

And instead, they could have released the december skill balance.

Shewmake

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Alabama

Mo/D

18 Dec 2009 at 02:36 - 128

I'd get one if there would be a way to buy one without linking a GW account and NCsoft account...

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:37 - 129

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Not in the game at all.

And instead, they could have released the december skill balance.

oh because adding 2 costumes in the game prevented their skill balance.

Yeah that makes total sense.

And if i cant have it or wont get it then no one should have it. amirite?

thedarkmarine

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Dec 2009 at 02:38 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Targren

More than anything else: Content. I paid for every campaign + eotn (more than once actually). I bought the BMP. Was not a lot of content, but it was something playable. Even paid for 2 character slots so I could have one of each class and a PvP toon. Never regretted those purchases (except the char slots are kinda steep. See below).

For some reason anet seems to have it's mind wrapped around certain numeric breakpoints, and it leads, as far as I'm concerned, to most of the stuff in the store being overpriced.

$5 for a level-up aide (igneous stone)? Should be a dollar, max.
$10 for 20 slots of storage? We should get all 4 pages for that.
$10 for 5 makeovers? Ok, my monk is ugly enough that I'd pay $2 for one, but I won't pay for 5 at that price.

Don't even get me started on the ridiculousness that is the "ubermakeover" or whatever the hell it's called.

Arenanet/NCSoft (whoever is making the pricing decisions) are missing the "micro" part of "microtransaction" when you can get actual full games for the cost of any one of these "upgrades" on similar systems (XBL, WiiShop, etc...)

Grj

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 Dec 2009 at 02:39 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

You can buy all 4 games for 50 bucks now...50 bucks for 5 years of playing

even if you bought them all when they came out thats still an incredible bargain

Fair enough

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

and this is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard. This isnt you must pay for new skill updates, or pay for weapons or armor that count or even pay for something that can be sold or translated into gold.

This is just a nice little luxury item that has no purpose but to make people happy with a nice new costume.

Anet doesnt even come close to freely attaching fees to updates.

Anet doesn't come near for charging for updates, yet.. with an emphasis on yet.

What seems like an optional update to some people seems like an attempt to see how far they can push things before they move on to the full blown micro transaction model and what better way to push it by moving people onto it without them even knowing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

If you even try to suggest that anet is money-hungry then im sorry but you are an idiot

Yes i'm an idiot but answer me this where's all this "support" people are giving to anet by buying this vanity stuff?

The time between updates seems to be getting greater and greater and the quality of some skill balances is laughable at best.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:39 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by x sithis x

HA HA HA HA people are QQing in towns that gw is p2p because you have to buy the new stuff xD ... thats so darn funny ... anet needs money for gw2, you dont need it, you dont have a monthly fee so people stop QQing about how it cost a measly $10

Why should people have to pay for crap in GW to fund GW2 unless Anet made a classic mistake and diverted too much manpower from their current primary product to make the new one, leading to most of their efforts going into vaporware while the thing they have that actually EXISTS and could actually MAKE MONEY dies. Generally the death occurs before the new release is done and it's either pushed out early (with associated epic fail) or never gets released at all.

You've got to keep a balance in software development. They didn't.

(Or did they actually think that enough people are gonna pay $10 for costumes to actually make anything more than a blip on the bottom line? I'll be surprised if they even break even for the development time.)

thedarkmarine

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 Dec 2009 at 02:40 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Not in the game at all.

And instead, they could have released the december skill balance.

Yeah, damn artists stalling on their input for the skill balance.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

18 Dec 2009 at 02:41 - 134

I honestly would not mind paying for makeovers, costumes, and even the extra storage IF I DID NOT HAVE TO LINK MY ACCOUNT TO A MASTER PLAY NC ACCOUNT.

I would be more than happy to buy a key but I'm not chancing PlayNC - just too dodgy in my book.

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:44 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by x sithis x

HA HA HA HA people are QQing in towns that gw is p2p because you have to buy the new stuff xD ... thats so darn funny ... anet needs money for gw2, you dont need it, you dont have a monthly fee so people stop QQing about how it cost a measly $10

I rather pay that 10 bucks to help a child in need in africa than to get two armors.

It's not about the money itself but the value you get from it. I'm more than willingly to sponsor Anet (which I did in the past) if it doesn't get ridiculous anyway. Might as well ask their bank account number and make deposits without anything in return. Charity for Anet.

You fools.

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

18 Dec 2009 at 02:46 - 136

I'd like to see the Dwayna armour dyed pink.

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

18 Dec 2009 at 02:48 - 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grj

The time between updates seems to be getting greater and greater and the quailuty of some skill balances is laughable at best.

Guild Wars 1 is dead i guess you must know this

so obviously most of their money isnt going to constantly updating the game to fit a few QQers on forums

You need to understand that MMO developers need to make the game the best to fit ALL the players. not just the 2% that QQ on the forums.

While from being on guru it may seem like a vast majority hate the game at the current state that is not true.

Anet doesn't see a staggering amount of pugs being able to do runs together with SF and then read a couple posts from some naggy players and decide they must instantly nerf SF.

Just like Anet doesnt read that a small amount of the population hates the new costumes and decides to Refund everyone and remove it from the game.

And above all that Anet has chosen to divert most of its money from a Dead Game to GW2. that makes sense no?

especially if GW2 is f2p they are going to need all the outside funding they can get

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

18 Dec 2009 at 02:53 - 138

Players have asked for this a long time.
I'm happy with this update. Now if only I could have gotten the older masks..

Gennadios

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2009

N/A

18 Dec 2009 at 03:14 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Players have asked for this a long time.
I'm happy with this update. Now if only I could have gotten the older masks..

Same. Something about the holiday activities makes the player base suck, too much time spent farming.

I knowingly missed quite a few masks just b/c they were useless and I was too bored to play at the time.

Joke's on us.

headgear56

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

A treehouse in Echovald Forest

Legit Guild [LGiT]

N/Me

18 Dec 2009 at 03:40 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilaptca

I don't care, I'm buying it. Grenth costume is awesome.

This. The Grenth costume would like great on my necro!

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

18 Dec 2009 at 03:41 - 141

i bought it and love the dwayna costume alot
Dwayna regalia + ice crown = awesome imo

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

18 Dec 2009 at 03:47 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

I rather pay that 10 bucks to help a child in need in africa than to get two armors.

HAHAHA. Seriously? Man....I understand being upset, but that's a bit much.

(Btw, 20% of my income goes to charity....and my wife and I both work for non-profits. Don't be ridiculous.)

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

18 Dec 2009 at 03:55 - 143

Just purchased Costume Pack.

Definitely worth the $10.

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

18 Dec 2009 at 04:01 - 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by _december

i bought it and love the dwayna costume alot
Dwayna regalia + ice crown = awesome imo

Dwayna Regalia dyed black is really nice too

All this will definitely serve as some good paragon armor and headpieces at last, LOL

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:03 - 145

I'm still undecided.

The price seems a bit much, but they do look pretty amazing. 5 bucks for both would have been an instant buy though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Dwayna Regalia dyed black is really nice too

All this will definitely serve as some good paragon armor and headpieces at last, LOL

Ooh, you can dye them? Hmmmm.....

/resist

Voltaic Ectoplasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mallyx's pimped out Crib

Mo/A

18 Dec 2009 at 04:05 - 146

6 pounds for both is pretty cheap imo....

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

18 Dec 2009 at 04:06 - 147

Anyone know how secure the store is? o_o?

Ariena Najea

Silence and Motion

Join Date: Jul 2006

Buffalo NY

New Horizon [NH]

18 Dec 2009 at 04:07 - 148

Purchased.

Is it "worth" $10? Probably not for what you personally get. Do remember that your monetary contributions support ArenaNet, and Guild Wars 2 is going to be very bleak without financial support.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:08 - 149

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Temptress

Anyone know how secure the store is? o_o?

The ncsoft store is to "security" what McDonald's is to "gourmet"

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

18 Dec 2009 at 04:09 - 150

Lol.

I'd be pretty 'paranoid' to buy anything on the ncsoft store since all these cases of people turning out hacked accounts. ):

zhongzh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Temple of Ages

Mo/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:15 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Temptress

Lol.

I'd be pretty 'paranoid' to buy anything on the ncsoft store since all these cases of people turning out hacked accounts. ):

agreed. i'd totally buy this if there werent a risk of my account/bank details stolen.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

18 Dec 2009 at 04:17 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Metal

too late, too much $, with the added bonus of getting your account blocked because of how they handle their in-game store purchases, plus whatever hidden bonus of having your account hacked due to some security flaw

PASS

edit: +1 to this would have been time better spent fixing XTH, and the creep towards microtransactions is always a turn-off

how about that having been the reward to some new quarterly content update, you know, that other promise that was broken?

++1

Costume not worth losing 4+ years of gaming, turn off the password reset function at NCsoft site and I might consider it.....

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:18 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by novawhiz

oh and then we get all the people QQin about RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing $10.

OMG Anet has let us play for free for almost 5 years and now they want us to spend $10 on an optional costume?? wtf???? omg anet QQ

They started handing the game out? Where was I for this?

Again, you people seriously need to learn what the word "free" means. Buying a game and playing it for 5 years does not equal free.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:22 - 154

I like the Dwayna one, but I'm not playing GW that much anymore, I don't think they have been supporting it as much as they should have been, and frankly I think that the NCSoft side of things is too sketchy for me.

If there was a way to buy this without going through NCSoft, like in a store, I'd at least give it more consideration.

Garreth MacLeod

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Dec 2009 at 04:42 - 155

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Players have asked for this a long time.
I'm happy with this update. Now if only I could have gotten the older masks..

Those will be available in the $20 festive hat collection to be released in the future. I kid, i kid.

In all seriousness, I am a little concerned with the number of "micro" transaction items that are now or have been available in GW.

While I understand Anets need to find funding from somewhere I'm really disappointed to see this happen. I can't help but wonder what Jeff Strains take would be on this. I don't believe it's what he and the other Anet founders had in mind all those years ago. IIRC, there was a time when Gaile said micro-transactions wouldn't ever be used in GW. Of course, there were a lot of other things Gaile said wouldn't happen that did so..hmm.

I also expect that if enough people pay for this, we'll see costumes for every event and perhaps even "town clothes", all available for a price at the good old NCSoft store. Next up..."Weapon pack" (yes, the BMP sort of fills that roll but it also had some content).

Quite disappointing in all honesty. Is this what we have to look forward to with GW2?

SPURLUXE

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Japan

18 Dec 2009 at 04:47 - 156

Costume itself looks nice, but I don't pay real money for that.
In-game item should be purchased with In-game money.

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

18 Dec 2009 at 04:53 - 157

they look nice, but I'm with the crowd that says its not worth loosing my account for.....we'll see when the first "I got hacked using the store to buy my costume" thread happens......
if they made these for retail purchase I would have absolutely NO problem buying it---just make it a gift card type of thing (could also do it for the other upgrades like storage and hairdos.) I bet there are still lots of kids playing who dont have a credit card/paypal/debit card who are being ignored. (yeah it would cost more money to produce a gc, but add another dollar to the price then to cover that cost).

so for the time being.....wait and see.

Lihinel

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

18 Dec 2009 at 05:13 - 158

Guess Ill at least wait until January.
Looking at the store issues not buying definetly looks like the dominating decision rule, possible account loss just dwarves any other expected gain/loss.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

18 Dec 2009 at 05:19 - 159

What a horrible waste of developers time who could be adding *gasp* new actual playable content and improving the game instead.

Also what a horrible waste of real $$ to buy something like this in a game. Whenever I see someone wearing this in game I will /point and /laugh at them. Pathetic.

StormX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Mo

18 Dec 2009 at 05:30 - 160

I'm not touching the NCSoft store with a 10 foot pole.

But seriously, I thought of buying it but I reaaally don't want to get hacked for something stupid like this... please man. I've given anet enough money, bought the BMP, extra char slots bla bla ...the least they can do is make sure I don't lose my account from buying their stuff. SOrry but the paranoia is contagious, its like the aliens are out there or something..