Mini Polar Bear Drops

isildorbiafra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Netherlands

W/

Afther my last post last week I never did a single run again. I might try a few tomorrow. Last year was to much a disapointment; and come to think of it; all that grinding ruined my holiday. I had a fabulous holiday this year; and made quite a bit of cash selling the gifts i got out of the 110 runs I did last week; and powertrading. Congrats to all that got a bear; and my sympathy to those who didnt.

I wish you all a fabulous 2010.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn Crocus View Post
Doesn't anyone actually help the snowmen?
I helped em everytime {over 500 runs} never understand why people want to afk and get ran through the game personally.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I ALWAYS fight for the snowmen. Some 500 runs this year, and only twice was I forced back to the door. Fighting speeds up the process hugely, 4-5 min runs are NORMAL.

Wave 1 can be split in two halves, so you can easily kill the Grentches about as fast as they come, losing 0 snowmen. The only tight spot comes at the end of wave 2 and the start of wave 3. There is no delay. They often wipe all your snowmen, so you have to tank 6-8 grentches by yourself.

Yes, TANK them. Not dodge, not survive, tank.

By getting the grentches on yourself, you let your snowmen accumulate, and right when you are unable to tank anymore, they come to your rescue.

Wave 4 is easy at that point, but sometimes you lose several snowmen making the boss group harder. But by this point, your skills are recharges, so you can tank them if necessary.

Makaveli

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2009

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn Crocus View Post
Doesn't anyone actually help the snowmen?
Nope, you can run straight past all the enemies up until the last battle. As a Monk I use the regen enchant which knocks the grentches along the way down as they hit you. Works perfectly, but you can run past without using any skills as well. You'll need Mmm Snowcone once or twice along the way, though.

EDIT: At the final battle I do join in the fight, though. Stand at the door and bombard the grentches from one group at a time. This ensures that if you lose your snowmen only 2/3 grentches will come for you instead of two groups. Works a charm!

Jugalo Dano

Jugalo Dano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn Crocus View Post
Doesn't anyone actually help the snowmen?
I haven't done many runs this year, but everytime I do I help them. I stand behind them with them on the edge of my radar and move in just after the snowmen take the aggro.

Since they buffed flurry of ice, using that on the bunched up grentches helps take them down alot faster. I think ive only had to use snow fort once or twice this year, the grentches will only target me if all the snowmen are dead, and that very rarely ever happens.

Inferno Link

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

E/R

I keep dying whenever I try to help the snowmen .

knobby

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2009

N/A

E/

523 runs so far, helping snowmen, strength of snow.
well.....
no polar bears
12 yuletides! are they worth anything?

Ive even experimented opening the chest when the jingle happens, doesnt help much lol

Jae Onasi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Lost Haven

E/Mo

I run to the door, read some threads here and there, pick up my drops, start over. I don't get it done very fast, but after doing a few hundred Snowball Dominance runs, I'm OK with letting the Snowmen take down the Grentchies for me.

Ewa Kirch

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

N/Mo

Over 400 runs and no mini polar bear!

chaosincarnate87

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Behind You ;)

DPR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn Crocus View Post
Doesn't anyone actually help the snowmen?
no time to help when running 2 accounts... btw... over 90 stacks of shards farmed solely from SoS and no polar bear, what a wasted 2 weeks.

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Made it through 1180 runs this year without getting the drop. I'd be pulling my hair out in frustration if it wasn't a pretty good haul on items. The only other time I've run into something across my 20 something years of gaming that defied farming half as well as this miniature was probably the Pink Tail in Final Fantasy 4.

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

well i feel bad for you guys but on the 25th of december at about 8pm i got my mini polar bear drop no i didnt get a screenie i picked it up as soon as i saw it for fear that it would somehow run away or dissapear about 150 runs in and now ive done about 25 less then 300 runs trying to farm a second mini

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

It's not over yet!!

P.S. Chest drops are assigned, so if you happen to lag out or not pick them up you get a Claim Item box when you're back in town.

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

the event ended early wtf

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

300 runs last year + 350 runs this year = no bear + ;_;

Event ended exactly on time BTW.

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot Narita View Post

Event ended exactly on time BTW.
but anet was supposed to fix the hats ordeal i figured they would do that before they end wintersday and didnt they take it away slowly last year not all at once?

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Wow and I thought Aion was grindy, you guys are insane. All that for a few (literally, the price has dropped heaps) ecto?

...

snowman relic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2009

your just a meatsheild to me

N/Mo

fenix what u tlking about i saw buyer in kama for 1300e

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Price dropped 200e, nothing major.

Divine Ashes

Divine Ashes

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chicago

LFG

R/

also, that 200e price drop coincides nicely with the ecto price inflation, so it's really worth about the same :P

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

I completed the quest (Strength of Snow) once. Imagine my shock and surprise when no Mini Polar Bear was to be found from the chest. Fortunately, the MPB is just a waste of a storage slot to me, but I obtained plenty of CCS's for the finale. Congrats to any of you who got one, and better luck next year if you did not.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Ashes View Post
also, that 200e price drop coincides nicely with the ecto price inflation, so it's really worth about the same :P
Not really. Most items still cost the same as before.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

wonder if the bear will still be around once GW2 is out?

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Heh. Good luck next time fellas.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
but I obtained plenty of CCS's for the finale.
Anybody with 10 shards had enough for all 9 finales . I gained about 25 shard doing 7 finales.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzjudz View Post
Anybody with 10 shards had enough for all 9 finales .
I am aware of that, yes. I have multiple accounts, but one run still sufficed. Maybe I should have saved some since ANet is repeating the finale. Meh.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Oh right, I was under the impression the price had halved.

Still, that many runs for a chance at 1300e? Psh.


Think about it. If you can earn 1.5-2k a minute doing ANY kind of farming, you're making more money than doing runs of Snowman and not getting a polar.

coil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

in ~500-700 runs no polar bear

BUT

i didnt get hacked (yet). so yay

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
If you can earn 1.5-2k a minute doing ANY kind of farming
Where are you farming? The average, and I'm being very conservative here, is 10-20k an hour. Some of the ripoff artists might be able to hit your 90-120k trading with 12 year olds all day but a real farm run is nowhere near those numbers barring miracle drops.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
Oh right, I was under the impression the price had halved.

Still, that many runs for a chance at 1300e? Psh.


Think about it. If you can earn 1.5-2k a minute doing ANY kind of farming, you're making more money than doing runs of Snowman and not getting a polar.
I did 60ish runs, got my MPB and stopped. Btw farming sucks. If you can convince me you can make 2k per minute consistently I'm game. That means not relying on the odd weekend events or luck of a random fluke drop. It needs to be practical and realistic. If it ain't reproducible it ain't worth it's weight in gold and you don't know what you're talking about.

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

You don't even get 1.5k-2k per minute from Strength of Snow. This is an easy math problem, so let's solve it. I'm making a lot of assumptions here, but this is a good approximation if the estimated wiki drop rate is in the ballpark. The real payout is probably worse, because I'm not considering things like loading time and I'm being very generous in pricing.

Completion: 6 minutes, no cons (10x/hr.)
Return: 4 guaranteed items. Assume Spiked is 300g, Fruitcake is 150g, Summoner is 200g, Wintergreen is 250g. That's 900g.
+/- 15 Candy Cane Shards @ 70g/ea = 1,050g.
Average guaranteed: 1,950g.

Assuming the wiki 1/3000 MPB drop rate and a value of 10,500,000g (1400e @ 7.5k/e): the opportunity to get one is worth 3,500g. Call the other drops worth 250g on average, yielding an expected drop value of 3,750g.

So the farm is 5,700g per run, 57k per hour, or just under 1k/minute.

That's not bad; that would make it the best solo farm going, comparable to the nerfed Vaettir keg run during an event with multiple, desirable event drops. It gets blown out of the water by dungeon running, succeeding at Snowball ATs (semifinals or better, with enough wins to offset the odd quarterfinal loss), and power trading.

But many people are risk averse, and know that in practice they're going to walk away with about 22k per hour. That's not worth your time if you're even remotely skilled.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

You could also do it because:

1) You enjoy the quest
2) Don't really need money
3) Really want a MPB

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

W/

Ok, well, 230 runs this year across 2 accounts... and no bear for me.

Kinda sucks that peeps run like 50 runs and then get one, wtf makes them so special...

Oh well. It's almost Wintersday again.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

lol same here, hope next year we'll be playing GW2 so I can stop thinking about that bear

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme! View Post
I did 60ish runs, got my MPB and stopped. Btw farming sucks. If you can convince me you can make 2k per minute consistently I'm game. That means not relying on the odd weekend events or luck of a random fluke drop. It needs to be practical and realistic. If it ain't reproducible it ain't worth it's weight in gold and you don't know what you're talking about.
PvP



12charzz

Reformed

Reformed

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Arching Healer View Post
PvP
12charzz
He wrote "ANY farming", emphasis his. Think about it...can you really reliably make 2k/min in PvP year round? People do play GW upwards of 10 hours a day and that would be an easy million a day even if you took breaks.

Also, sitting away in a town and providing a service are not the same thing as loot/gold gathering. No need to break out the Merriam-Webster here either.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I got one, but it wasn't polar, but bi-polar. So it got angry over something stupid and ran away.
This days everyone's crazy.

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Didn't get my MPB, but I did make 90k worth of Candy Cane Shards from doing some casual farming throughout the event. Which is about 85k more than I thought I'd get at the start, so that was a loverly surprise.

Polgara Val

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

TSR

Mo/Me

My shameless bump to resurrect my old drop rate thread for the mini polar bear from last year. Lets see if we can keep tabs on any drops this year ladies and gents. Good luck!

Pol

Necro Quink

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Belgium

Trinity Of The Ascended [ToA]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Val View Post
My shameless bump to resurrect my old drop rate thread for the mini polar bear from last year. Lets see if we can keep tabs on any drops this year ladies and gents. Good luck!

Pol
I've had one dropped for me this morning. Only did 4 runs to get him this year . I'm so glad I got him, this way I can spend more time doing other things than just do the quests over and over again.

Screenshot is posted here
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...postcount=1280