targets one person for 6 seconds max, and the dmg can be negated if the foe doesn't move, whoever see fit to changed Winter's Embrace must not have use it before.
@#$#&% stop messing with my Water Magic.!
Update- Thurday January 28
pumpkin pie
there's absolutely no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing reason to change PvE version of winter's embrace.
targets one person for 6 seconds max, and the dmg can be negated if the foe doesn't move, whoever see fit to changed Winter's Embrace must not have use it before.
@#$#&% stop messing with my Water Magic.!
targets one person for 6 seconds max, and the dmg can be negated if the foe doesn't move, whoever see fit to changed Winter's Embrace must not have use it before.
@#$#&% stop messing with my Water Magic.!
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
there's absolutely no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing reason to change PvE version of winter's embrace.
targets one person for 6 seconds max, and the dmg can be negated if the foe doesn't move, whoever see fit to changed Winter's Embrace must not have use it before. @#$#&% stop messing with my Water Magic.! |
. Winter's Embrace + Glowing Ice made me happy, now it makes me sad 
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IrishX
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
there's absolutely no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing reason to change PvE version of winter's embrace.
targets one person for 6 seconds max, and the dmg can be negated if the foe doesn't move, whoever see fit to changed Winter's Embrace must not have use it before. @#$#&% stop messing with my Water Magic.! |
Dzjudz
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FGust and Shard Storm say, "hi."
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Killed u man
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cripshot is already unblockable, why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO make it a bitch to dodge too?
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Abedeus
Wait, people used Winter's Embrace in PvE? They used a melee, single-target hex that also made YOU go slower?
Dzjudz
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Wait, people used Winter's Embrace in PvE? They used a melee, single-target hex that also made YOU go slower?
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.This was the previous version. You are talking about the version before that. August 2009 had a big skill update.
Ugh
The addition of aftercasts to 1s bow attacks, a nerf to the duration of Glass Arrows, and a nerf to Lightning Reflexes would've been enough to balance ranger spikes without killing them.
An EDA nerf was unnecessary for PvE.
Why was Cripshot buffed to be both unblockable AND undodgable?
Hunter's Shot is still brainless and shitty.
Power Shot is terrible now, even if it is armor-ignoring.
Yay to everything else.
An EDA nerf was unnecessary for PvE.
Why was Cripshot buffed to be both unblockable AND undodgable?
Hunter's Shot is still brainless and shitty.
Power Shot is terrible now, even if it is armor-ignoring.
Yay to everything else.
Abedeus
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I think you missed a few skill updates
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Nash Vegas
Bug: precision shot now removes stances 
Redvex
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Bug: precision shot now removes stances
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Lanier
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Slowing down single enemies is useless in PvE...
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Nash Vegas
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Originally Posted by Redvex
I try but don't remove anything
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Shayne Hawke
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It removes your target's stance. Try it in a scrimmage.
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Nash Vegas
It wasn't in the update notes, so i think it was an oopsie.
Dzjudz
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Oh. I still think it's pretty meh skill. Sure it casts fast and deals... 75 damage over 5 seconds, but it's pretty much what Burning would give you over those 5 seconds. Slowing down single enemies is useless in PvE...
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It can help keep enemy melees from getting to your backline or help prevent enemy monks from kiting from your frontliners. Im not saying its all that useful, just saying its not completely useless.
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Abedeus
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It can help keep enemy melees from getting to your backline or help prevent enemy monks from kiting from your frontliners. Im not saying its all that useful, just saying its not completely useless.
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Seriously. Just use an AoE snare.
Tearz1993
Precision Shot: secret weapon
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Precision Shot: secret weapon
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They might leave it in pve very useful against block stance
Mad King Corn
Why did they ruin Needling shot in PVE? Were we abusing the AI?
I'm sorry, but when needling shot now disables all my attack skills, they can shove it
up their arses. I was not that great to start with...Just stupid... It's PVE for Christs sake!
I'm sorry, but when needling shot now disables all my attack skills, they can shove it
up their arses. I was not that great to start with...Just stupid... It's PVE for Christs sake!
Xsiriss
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Lol @ mobs kiting in PvE.
Seriously. Just use an AoE snare. |
Amy Awien
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Why was Cripshot buffed to be both unblockable AND undodgable?
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Fay Vert
Or so that ANet can pretend there is still a point to the ranger class?
Voice of Reason
Oh, so rangers are back to having one good build?
*trashes bows*
*deletes ranger*
*quits GW*
*trashes bows*
*deletes ranger*
*quits GW*
Xenex Xclame
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Oh, so rangers are back to having one good build?
*trashes bows* *deletes ranger* *quits GW* |
Wow create a account just to whine (his post would be the description of a whine) how lame do you have to be?
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Or so that ANet can pretend there is still a point to the ranger class?
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Earth
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Or so that ANet can pretend there is still a point to the ranger class?
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Yeah, I guess rangers are useless now.
Coast
gogo a/r keen arrow+p shot, gogo
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Magebane, Cripshot, Burning Arrow, Mel's Shot, Barrage (for PvE). Savage, Dshot, Apply, Nat Stride.
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Redvex
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Magebane, Cripshot, Burning Arrow, Mel's Shot, Barrage (for PvE). Savage, Dshot, Apply, Nat Stride.
Yeah, I guess rangers are useless now. |
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For pve barrage is not that useful.
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Lanier
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Lol @ mobs kiting in PvE.
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pumpkin pie
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Lol @ mobs kiting in PvE.
Seriously. Just use an AoE snare. |
And you do need to snare a single foe, a lot of the time, while snaring the general population that you are fighting in the front line. leaving your heroes and henches to do what they are suppose to do, we need to snare that irritating one that is chasing Mhenlo or Khim or our healer around, thats how they don't get killed easily. Its does not justify to use deep freeze just to snare that one irritating element, not even Ice Spikes (15e) so now have to use ice spikes because of the stupid decision made.
What they should have change was Ice Spear, Ice Spear is the equivalent of Lava Arrows
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Redvex
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Then what is used these days? I don't really play that often any more, especially not PvE.
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There's no more options in pve, it's sad but it's the truth.
Barrage in normal mode is usel but when i vanquishing i see that mob scatter quickly in hard mode.
If barrage don't remove preparation in pve.........may be very interesting.
Voice of Reason
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Wow create a account just to whine (his post would be the description of a whine) how lame do you have to be?
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When I said "*trashes bows*" I was inferring that bows have been nerfed to shit and are now only useful for one function.
"*deletes ranger*" implys that the entire ranger class has gone to shit. Rangers have one build where they actually play a ranger, all the rest are gimmicks like dagger rangers, scythe rangers, etc.
"*quits GW*" shows that I'm fed up with the terrible skill updates that we've been given. Anet has had months for this update, yet they couldn't find a way to balance ranger spikes without killing 10 skills?
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The addition of aftercasts to 1s bow attacks, a nerf to the duration of Glass Arrows, and a nerf to Lightning Reflexes would've been enough to balance ranger spikes without killing them.
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Magebane, Cripshot, Burning Arrow, Mel's Shot, Barrage (for PvE). Savage, Dshot, Apply, Nat Stride.
Yeah, I guess rangers are useless now. |
Shayne Hawke
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All the other skills you listed are good, but they're also just variants of one build. Having one viable function for an entire class is poor game design.
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Desert Rose
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Then what is used these days? I don't really play that often any more, especially not PvE.
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Voice of Reason
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Variants of a build with no core elite? No, all of those builds are each different builds, and many of them have different playstyles.
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Regardless of how different they are, I actually haven't seen much of BA or Magebane in a while. And with the recent buff to Cripshot and nerfs to Mshot, Mshot has seen less of the spotlight as well.
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HawkofStorms
You are the same type of person complaining mesmers are only good at disruption and not killing things aren't you?
Classes having builds that fit their roles... *gasp* the horror
Classes having builds that fit their roles... *gasp* the horror
Voice of Reason
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You are the same type of person complaining mesmers are only good at disruption and not killing things aren't you?
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A class having a build that fits their role is not great.