Chapter 2 Information from Computer Gaming World

You can remain competative. Since Anet is following Magic's model you do not have to have the previous editions to stay competative. It has been said over and over.

As a magic player myself I know this as truth. No magic player ever stays in the game for ever single edition. I play for 1-2 core sets then I quit for about a year or so. I miss out on 1-2 core sets but when I come back I am still competative because how everything is set up and game balance.

in the UK it's only $30 dollars a copy if you buy online, works out at $5 a month, which is like one meal at mac donald's. most MMO's are $12-15 dollars per month.

No, what I meant was I didn't air any opionion about whether I think the sum is too much or not, as you implied in your comment. I am not taking any sides, just saying the sum is considerable to the players or whoever is paying for their game.

And remember that MMORPG with suscription fee also have expansions to buy...

Curious question: Has the price of GW went down since release where you live? Because it hasn't over here in Sweden, at least not where I live.

That's a lot cheaper than over the counter in Sweden then. I can't imagine the postal fee for the box can be too much either between European countries. So that is a far better alternative then, thanks for the info.

i saw it on sale locally for 39.99 and it is on amazon for 44.99

when chapter 2 comes out i would not be surprised to see ads like

*BUY CHAPTER 2 GET CHAPTER 1 AT HALF PRICE*

seeing to buy a pretty good game cost 50 bucks or more... plus monthly costs..i think ill stick with Guild Wars or go back to Warcraft 1.

Uhm, right... but they also have a boss named 'Priest of Dagnar'. Maybe the Stone Summit venerate the guy as a god, or he's named after a god? Or the 'Priest of Dagnar' boss is just a madman.

Balthazar's half-brother is mentioned in the text of some of the FoW quests. He's the leader of the Shadow Army.

Dagar was the kings cousin, not brother.

Now maybe its just me, but Anet has said that Factions can be played as a seperate game (i.e. you dont need to own the first game). The price will also most likely be comparable to the orinigal. So wouldn't it make sense for there to be 4 more character slots? I mean, the folks who just buy chapter 2 are getting a whole game, and thus 4 slots would make sense, plus that would make the number of characters = number of classes, which would stop alot of complaining. Does this make sense to anyone other than me, or have I missed something?

Gaile has said that the magazine material is more than a month old and they havent decided yet how many NEW slots will be in the chapter 2 when added to chapter 1.

assume that if you just buy chapter 2 you will get the same total number of slots since they said the original 6 *CORE* professions would be included with any future chapters (3/4/5/x)

if you get 5 slots total when adding chapter 2 figure chapter 2 alone will have either 5 slots also or at least 4 same as the original game.

they are not about to anger people over such a small item.

I was browsing around looking at all the people whineing about saving money for the second chapter and this seemed starnge to me because I dont understand why its soo important... I mean everyones going to have to start from the beginning so there wont be any runs to special places or anyone with the uber weapons so what exactly are you gunna spend your millions on? The Catha starter amour? lol Im sure a few plat here and there is good but stressing over not being able to have more than 1mill is a little over the top. I was just wondering what you lot thought about this "Cash problem"

I still think it will add 4 slots (for a total of 8), its the only thing that makes sense in my mind. Theyve said they have an affinity for the number 8, so eight slots would make sense. Eight slots, eight classes, same number of slots for the second game as for the first. Many less people fussing about not having enough spaces. I dont think they would make it 4 slots for those who just have chapter 2, but then shortchange the returning players by only adding two slots (or whatever). That just doesnt make sense. Also, it doesnt make sense to say its a standalone game, but oh, new players (Factions only owners), you only get two slots, even though there are eight classes. See what I'm saying? Now, there might be MORE than eight slots, but i simply cannot believe that Anet will stick us with less than eight (for those that have both). They love us too much

hm this isnt relating to computer gaming world.. but on that link with gamespy.com and assain and rituliast sexes charcters.. it tells of a release date.. now my question is.. is gamespy.com a reliable source?

as GAILE/ALEX are fond of saying if it is not on the official site it is a guess and probably wrong.

not reliable

QUOTE=Chef Boyardeath] even though they label GW as a rpg, every other article I read about it seemed to focus on the pvp side of it, with the rpg part of the game there for the people who want it. It didn't seem like think they ever intended people to play the game for the rpg aspect of the game only. more of a mixed blend or all out pvp (atleast thats what all the articles/previews for the game seemed to tell me).
Anyway, I probably just repeated everything you said again, but I think i might have came off as an ass in the other post. O_o[/QUOTE]

Ummm... yeah... Chef you might have come off as an ass, however, I always take posts with a pinch of salt, makes it taste so much better going down then just a grain. I would like a nice blend of PvP and RP and that it what initially attracted my to GW but I don't like the PVP in GW for reasons that don't need restating.

Ok... since no one else is really answering the question why people are upset about spending around $50.00 for chapter 2 I will...

Let me first say that I totally agree that Anet should be making money on the expansion. They have invested a lot of time and energy in this product and deserve a return on their assets. However, why am I paying for content that I already paid for when I bought the first chapter of GW?

Chapter 2 is a stand alone game that (as we all know because it's been said about 50 millions times) will have the six original professions... etc... etc... (please don't make me repeat all the common aspects again!) Why am I paying for that? Didn't I already pay for that? Why is it unreasonable to think that as a loyal player that I should pay for the content I already have?

If Anet offered a rebate to established consumers (much in the same way that a certain antivirus program does when purchasing the new years updated version) I might reconsider actually buying it. As for now I have no plans for buying the new chapter myself. (You may read my other rants as to why I will not be buying chapter 2 in posts #168, #204 & #300)

This is what I've been thinking. Doesnt make sense to have a different amount of slots depending on if you have Chapter 1 or not.


Now for the REAL question. If i have 2 chapter 1 accounts, am i going to have to buy 2 chapter 2 accounts?(in order to play with chapter 2 stuff with both accounts) I'm guessing yes.

This is a reason I don't play games like WoW. However, I do believe it's different for GW, as I'm not also paying monthly for the use of their servers.

On price and being a complete game:
Your average MMORPG $40 initial and 6*$12 for time since release to date. That is already more than the cost of the game and the second chapter.

Avid players value the game more and therefore will be willing to pay more for less product. If you are reading a book (Tom Clancy or early Robert Jordan) were the story is somewhat interconnected to a past book, you have to live with the initial reintroduction of characters who you are already familar with. You are getting less "new" story than a new reader, however you are coming back for more so you are willing to pay more.

A new Guild Wars player may pick up the game, play 20-70 hours and drop it. If I'm buying the second addition, I am likely to play 200+ more hours (who are we kidding 500+) before the next release. If the expansion hooks new players, then they will buy the original and get zero new slots etc. Finally, the expansion will get fewer buyers (well, likey fewer buyers) since the community is somewhat smaller now than at release. Unless the second chapter really surpasses the hype of the first, that's how I see it. If we want to keep the servers running, we will have to pay a bit more for less.

Finally, the game is incomplete by any stretch of the imagination. Originally engine was done, the balance was ok, but high end PvE content, explorable areas and PvP content was... lacking. The ladder is great if you are top 300 but really slow any lower than that. Tombs has gotten both repetitive and really competitive atm... not great PuG or casual guild experience. Low end PvP is really CA which could use a face lift. GvG is really where the action is, but even those maps could use a bit more variety. Anet tried a few things before intial release to give that variety, but it threw the balance too much. There really are only 4 GvG map types: Catapult maps, Fire map, Movement control maps (Ice,Druid) and location oddity maps--ok that is a bit simplified but you get my drift. PvP is the center of the community, but really doesn't seem involved in the story or much of anything. If Factions resolves some of that gap, I will be very pleased.

You know half the people on this forum would pay $10 for an extra 20 good skills. If they are giving me 300, I'll shell out my $50.

You are not paying for the conten you already have. You're paying for the new content in Chapter 2. Chapter 2 won't exactly have the six original classes... you'd be missing out on a bunch of skills without Chapter 1. I don't know why you're having a difficult time understanding that.

Again, you're paying for NEW content....just because there is a bit of overlap doesn't mean you're paying for old content. That's like saying paying to watch a movie sequel is paying for old content just because it stars the same character.

new game new things, chapter 1..no new things for you.

Gratz to AN for making chap2 look so cool, but one concern springs to mind.I mean to me, this looks like AN are using chap2 to wipe out all the bad things that went on in cap1, e.g exploits and bugs...I know AN are making a whole new area and stuff like that, with new profs aswell. But what about the old world and old chars? are they abandoned? Nearly every one i know who plays GW has put alot of hours into their chars and would be heart broken to start again from fresh in and have to go through another pre-sear noob training area..If so... GW isn't really a MMO, yeah they make addons like SF and stuff like that.. But then they bring out a whole new game for chap 2..? Forcing old and loyal players to make a fresh char and proceed through all the noob stuff again and again..Why don't they just follow on with the story of chap1, enabling for lvl growth to 30-40? Including new skills, pets, monsters etc the list goes on..That way, GW would add up to one huge mfkr game that has 4 chapters and max lvl 100!! possibly the biggest and best MMO ever.

/sigh

Read the freaking thread. Old characters will be able to play in the new world and new characters can play in the old world. You'll be able to change the secondary

Anet never advertised as an MMO. They went through great lengths on this selling point. This is one reason why the lvl cap is low. GW is not an MMO in the traditional sense, never has been nor will it every be.

Again please read some of the thread. All these issues you bring up have been addressed at least once per page. If you want to lvl go play WoW or CoH. GW has promised they won't raise the caps.

Again please read the thread. Oh wait. One more thing: please read the thread.

Well that makes sense, you have 2 account with 2 different emails means 2 account.
So that means that you need to buy 2 chaopter 2s.

Think about it, your 2 accounts are like having 2 different people with an account each. They wont be able to share the same chapter 2. Each one needs to buy a copy of chapter 2.

Does anyone know if you are going to be able to change hair styles and colors and stuff like that in game?

Been suggested by forum posters many times. I recall it was mentioned as a possibilty in some way. However, no defenite answer has been given or even suggested as how or when or even IF it will be added.

All I have to Say is if you don't Have it yet you need to go and get it. I wish I could Post pictures of the New classes and game play. HOT HOT HOT !!! Great new info on GW2.


Anyone else have it yet? Thoughts comments?

N8

Factions is gonna be a new game. ppl who never played the original can just start playing factions. so i hope that means we wil have 4 new char slots again.
cuz i read something about 'maybe 1 additional slot'.
Will there be 4 new char slots when you buy gw factions?
Maybe its because i dont understand all english words...sry

how do i politely say that is idiotic?

WHAT CONTENT?

ALL YOU ARE GETTING FROM CHAPTER 1 IS 6 CORE CHARACTERS.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS A WHOLE NEW FRESH GAME WITH IMPROVEMENTS.

NAME ANYTHING ELSE THAN THE CORE 6 PROFESSIONS THAT CARRY OVER.

NEW CONTENT IS TOTAL IF YOU MAKE AN ASSASSIN/RITUALIST AND DONT USE THE OLD.

FULL NEW GAME FULL NEW PRICE AND IT IS OPTIONAL

Will there be any connection between the normal Guild Wars and Guild Wars: Faction??

I mean trading stuff or battles between GW and GWF?

Also, does everyone start with a new account or does the character you have now on GW continue in GWF??

Hey all..

Been away for about 4 months and just came back a couple of days ago and heard about this new add on to the game.

First I hear about this key, but how do you get it? and second will there be much PVE in the Xpack as I did quite a bit of PVP and some GVG, but find I like the PVE better.

Any replies appreciated

Scroll up for the sticky thread. It isn't out til 2nd quarter 2006.

I was wondering about the beta weekend on the 22nd actually.

I don't mean to sound umm..not helpful, but please use the search button, look at the thread about factions, or generally look through the many posts asking the same questions. Ok, thanks.

Let me explain then the whole point of a "stand alone game". There is more then just professions but a whole lot of game mechanics that do not show a lot of tangible product or content... this is called programming.

In order to make chapter 2 stand alone and compatible with chapter 1 means that a lot of the underlying scrips must be the same. A lot of that is just in the six professions... all the same stuff for the physical build (perhaps and hopefully some new stuff as well and no one has said the you won't have the same headsets and what not for the orignal professions)... etc... perhaps they won't have access to the elite skills in chapter one but there are a hell of a lot core skills that will be included.

Actually I should pause and say that the thought of new skills doesn't excite me... core skills are actually very very good if used correctly... and honestly some of the descriptions of the new skills sound like the old core skills uberized.

Now I am not so completely innate that I cannot see that 90% of the content will be new content and I am also not saying that I actually care how much the new chapter will cost as I don‘t plan on purchasing it and those that want to will pay the price even if it was $100.00. Ya'll asked why people had a problem with the price and flamed those people... who would want to go back and post an intelligent response to people who can only flame (except me because I don't care what anybody thinks of me) ...therefore I answered.

Well that's what I was wondering about. It says to click on guildwars.com there for a key I guess, but there is nothing new there. I would like to see the new stuff on the 22nd and just not sure what to do. My apologies if I seem like a newb but I don't understand this key stuff.

Thanks

It just hasnt updated yet. That is all.
Be patient and the keys will be available today at some point.

I'm going to direct everyone in this thread to read:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=106534

It's a sticky with just about 90% of the information people are asking in here. Yes they have announced new hairstyles and it is definitive.

If you have Chapter 1 then all your stuff from Chapter 1 will carry over to Chapter 2.

You are paying for the new chapter because it's a new game. You don't pay a monthly fee. How else did you figure Anet was going to be able to keep pushing us new content and keep paying employees? Retail sales die down after so long. The game was released in April. Figure about $15 a month since April (or whenever you bought the game) that's $120 I would have all ready spent in my book and the new chapter still has a few months before being released. So I'm saving money and getting a ton of new content.

Answering these type of questions just make one's post count look better.

1.Yes. There will be a connection for charachter cross over. You need to have chapter 2 and chapter 1 to do so.

2. Account will be the same. The additional space added is still being debated among fans and has not yet been confirmed by anet on how many they will be adding.