Chapter 2 Information from Computer Gaming World
vancha
is it possible to order the mag from amazon or something?
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by IceD'Bear
Do you have any idea how to solve this, without introducing new possibilities for griefing?
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The remaining party members could be allowed to vote for the griefer to be made to drop the quest item. It just drops to the ground. Or it gets randomly transfered to another person. No further harm done.
Since holding a quest item is more of a burden and in no way gives any benefit, this should work just fine, as oposed to kick voting, where seven people could group up and kick anyone who happened to had an ecto drop.
Fear The Destroyer
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Originally Posted by vancha
is it possible to order the mag from amazon or something?
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Edit: You can only subscribe to CGW @ Amazon.com (you would recieve February's issue later than you would waiting for it to hit newstands)
Juhanah
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Originally Posted by vancha
is it possible to order the mag from amazon or something?
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I love how you can read on the front page of the magazine:
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RE-REVIEWED STAR WARS GALAXIES Sony admit it sucks and relaunches it. Now it's worse. see page 76. |
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Elena
what i wonder is wich patron gods ritualist and assasin will get. I mean they cant yust make new ones or Cantha must have different beliefs than the rest of the gw world
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Also, people in the same country have totally different views on the same issue, like whether I or you are the product of Darwinian evolution, or God, or the Flying Spaghetty Monster (a good theory IMHO, google it up
)I don't think it would be far fetched that one GW continent, race or ethnic group has a totally different belief system. Who knows, maybe we get to fight Flying Spaghetti Monster in the final Cantha mission?
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by eur0b0y69
and nobody will do the quests for the rewards(only if they are items), or xp, because u are already lvl 20.
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The items will look different, but they will still be 15-28 bows and +10 energy focus items and stuff.
Congratulations, you have uncovered my personal dilemma with Guild Wars Chapter 2 (...3 ...4 ...5 ...6) - why would I keep buying expansions if my main enjoyment is PvE, and leveling up, and gathering new exciting and above all more powerful items?
I admit it, I am a Diablo packrat at heart, I don't care if all the environments look basically the same as long as I can satisfy my perverted desire for "just one more level! just one better item!" that costed me so many nights sleep.
I will probably buy chapter 2 nevertheless. But I buy it because (I still think it must have) more character slots, and maybe controllable pets, and maybe a better merchant system (aka auctions). Experience improvements I still wait for, even for chapter 1. If it has all that, I'd buy it even if it had no otherwise new chapter 2 content in it!
But I doubt that new looks for existing items or a new chapter of a story will keep me fueled throughout the next five expansions.
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Gopher warrior
maybe instead of haveing to buying the ch2 disc they will let us buy it off site with paypal, and to get to cantha you just have to have that download it and like save it into yer GW folder
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As long as they don't overcharge my credit card and steal my money like Electronic Arts (end of personal rant), I shall definetly use such option.
funbun
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Originally Posted by Elfshade
Why not? Some believe in Allah, or God, or Buddha (which are to varying degrees more or less the same entity).
Also, people in the same country have totally different views on the same issue, like whether I or you are the product of Darwinian evolution, or God, or the Flying Spaghetty Monster (a good theory IMHO, google it up )I don't think it would be far fetched that one GW continent, race or ethnic group has a totally different belief system. Who knows, maybe we get to fight Flying Spaghetti Monster in the final Cantha mission? |
Look at Christianity. How many denominations of Baptists are, for instance? Too many to count. That's not counting the rest of teh Protestant denominations, let alone the the different Catholic beliefs, let alone the Orthodox traditions. Yet they believe in the same G-d.
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Vnewbie
Ahem...
They already went from Charr->Stone Summit->Shining Blade->Undead/White Mantle->"The Forgotten"/Gods->Mursaat->Titans/Litch |
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Delta
Will the new professions (Assassins and Ritualists) not be able to explore 'Chapter 1 Tyria', for the sake that then people that have not bought the expansion will be able to see (not play) the new classes anyway (and maybe some of the other new stuff as well, as in battle with players with some of the new skills?) ?
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So it could be, though I think unlikely, that chapter 1 only chars can see all the new stuff, just not aquire it.
Would be a good sales strategy though. I can see people spamming in the city already:
"help i bought flash dragn sword i cant equip it says need chapter 2 whatzzup?"
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Rayea
shouldnt bee to dificult if they drip-feed us the nesicary updates in sleep mode before the Chap2 sell date....
then on the big day, add one more update that wakes up the stuff they hid in the little ones and were all set to go look at eachother  |
*fires up tcpdump*
I think I just saw a lightning dragon sword rushing by!!
Tricose
on the gods disccusion the current sects follow these gods
Us (that’s the players) and the forgotten (the forgotten where the caretakers of tyria till humans came) follow the five gods
White mantle follow the "new Gods" or as we know them the murrsatt
Charr worship the tytans (look a there burning statues)
Lych glinth and the alien thingy I don’t know
this is to the best of my knowledge
there could be other gods out there and I bet one of the missions is to attack the mursatt city in the jungle
Us (that’s the players) and the forgotten (the forgotten where the caretakers of tyria till humans came) follow the five gods
White mantle follow the "new Gods" or as we know them the murrsatt
Charr worship the tytans (look a there burning statues)
Lych glinth and the alien thingy I don’t know
this is to the best of my knowledge
there could be other gods out there and I bet one of the missions is to attack the mursatt city in the jungle
eur0b0y69
ok, chapter 2 will have a lot of new content, but im sure that more than 70% will be directed PvP wise. I love to PvP its a great thing, why did they even bother to make a whole new asian territory if we are lvl 20, and we will kill mostly mosters betwen lvl 20-30 througth the whole PvE(which supposely is very big), i myslef think ill be a little bored. I will buy this game , but ive waited for soo long to get over lvl 20, alteast 30. This is all said from a true GuildWars fan.
avoll
I might have missed the post
sorry if thats the case
but is there any word on, if we will be getting more char slots
or be giveN some type of option of upgradeN are acount to have more char slots
I would realE like to know either way
ThanX
sorry if thats the case
but is there any word on, if we will be getting more char slots
or be giveN some type of option of upgradeN are acount to have more char slots
I would realE like to know either way
ThanX
Sir Decoy
Will there be better armor than previously?
Will there be more expensive armor than the current Fissure of Woe armor?
What levels will the monsters be in the new places?
Will there be more expensive armor than the current Fissure of Woe armor?
What levels will the monsters be in the new places?
Elena
yes we will get more char slots with the expansion
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by Elfshade
Yeah. Frankly the storyline made me wonder if some of the authors had some form of attention span deficiency ...
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Which actually works well for cross-compatibility between the chapters - a Canthan hero visiting Lion's Arch may well volunteer to help with the undead situation and end up getting drawn into the main storyline, while a Canthan getting involved in the pre-Lion's Arch missions is more of a stretch. I wonder if they'll work it so that it goes the same way for heroes from Ascalon visiting Cantha?
And, for the record, I don't see the Forgotten as an enemy so much as an obstacle - their job is to make sure that the unworthy don't waste Dwayna and company's valuable time. In fact, I could see an Ascended character and a Forgotten getting together for a drink afterwards "Yeah, I heard you killed my clutchmate Ssthass. Nevermind, better that he die to you than to some unworthy. Congratulations, by the way." Unless of course they're still holding a grudge from being made redundant a millenia or so ago...
Eet GnomeSmasher
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Originally Posted by eur0b0y69
I will buy this game , but ive waited for soo long to get over lvl 20, alteast 30. This is all said from a true GuildWars fan.
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Gli
Re: the gods
-Dwarves have a god(ess) named Dagnar.
-Balthazar has a half-brother called Menzies, the 'Lord of Destruction'
-Dwarves have a god(ess) named Dagnar.
-Balthazar has a half-brother called Menzies, the 'Lord of Destruction'
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by eur0b0y69
ok, chapter 2 will have a lot of new content, but im sure that more than 70% will be directed PvP wise. .
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i wouldnt be surprised if 70+% was PVE.a few more arenas to use and maybe a new mode or so for PVP but then what?
PVE will get areas and more and better quests and the auction house and more this and that and who knows what else.
figure the proportion of effort that is not PVP exclusive and do it again for chapter 2.
this is guess on my part but i have had official word that you will not be forced to PVP if you dont want to but the qualifier was
*your experience may be enhanced by doing so*
Liante
I'm still confused as to whether PvP will continue to be some form of instanced 8 vs 8 or if it will be like an area where anyone can jump into the battle.
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Sir Decoy
Will there be better armor than previously?
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So its really a bit like Barbie's Fashion Designer Kit (or at least how I picture that): With more chapters, you can customize your avatar exponentionally and more and more make it look different from the rest, but you won't get any über-items (which is good) but sadly, you won't get any better items presumably either.
(Hey, good thing being not native, allows me to spell "über" with just my regular keys
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funbun
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Originally Posted by draxynnic
And, for the record, I don't see the Forgotten as an enemy so much as an obstacle - their job is to make sure that the unworthy don't waste Dwayna and company's valuable time. In fact, I could see an Ascended character and a Forgotten getting together for a drink afterwards "Yeah, I heard you killed my clutchmate Ssthass. Nevermind, better that he die to you than to some unworthy. Congratulations, by the way." Unless of course they're still holding a grudge from being made redundant a millenia or so ago...
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Originally Posted by eur0b0y69 I will buy this game , but ive waited for soo long to get over lvl 20, alteast 30. This is all said from a true GuildWars fan. |
/sigh
They ain't changing the lvl caps folks. Anet went through all kind of trouble explaining why the cap is so low. It's not about your level vs my level. It's about your build vs my build, your skilll vs my skill.
Here is another problem with higher skill caps. In WoW the cap was lvl 40. You had to get lvl 40 to kill lvl 50 monstersor whatever. Once you hit lvl 40 and kill all the monsters it gets boring. So they have to raise the cap to lvl 60 to beat bigger, bader monsters. Then that gets boring. Then you end up in this never ending cycle: raise the lvl of the players to fight bigger, bader monsters.
With GW it's about skill. You beat bigger, bader monsters with skill. Take Last Day Dawns for instance, I bet there were a bunch of noobs wanting higher lvl caps so they could beat the those Titans. But they were too n00bish to figure out they either needed a ranger with Winter or a Hydromancer. Once you get the right build Those Titains go down easily. There is no skill in lvling. You'r just rewarded for the amount ot time you play, not the skill and thought you put into your build.
GW is a lot like a trading card game like Yugioh: you have your deck (your unlocked skills) and your hand (your skill bar). Each skill has it's own tactical situation in which is should be used. Most "raise the skill cap people" either don't want to spend time trying to figure this stuff out or they like lvling in games like City of Heros or WoW and just bought the wrong game.
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by Phades
I didnt think that spagetti and tentacles were too far of a comparsion from each other, even if it was done with a little tounge in cheek.
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(Excuse me, never read the book, googled up Cthulhu once a long while ago, so the link wasn't totally obvious to me ... good one, nevertheless).
Elfshade
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Originally Posted by funbun
Once you hit lvl 40 and kill all the monsters it gets boring. So they have to raise the cap to lvl 60 to beat bigger, bader monsters. Then that gets boring. Then you end up in this never ending cycle: raise the lvl of the players to fight bigger, bader monsters.
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Elfshade
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Originally Posted by funbun
GW is a lot like a trading card game like Yugioh: you have your deck (your unlocked skills) and your hand (your skill bar). Each skill has it's own tactical situation in which is should be used. Most "raise the skill cap people" either don't want to spend time trying to figure this stuff out or they like lvling in games like City of Heros or WoW and just bought the wrong game.
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Hm ... this is such a close match, I wonder if it would be fun to come up with a Guild Wars Trading Card Game, for the time when you can't connect to the net and the addiction gets too strong ...
Elena
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Originally Posted by Gli
Re: the gods
-Dwarves have a god(ess) named Dagnar. -Balthazar has a half-brother called Menzies, the 'Lord of Destruction' |
lofblad
No monthly fee, that's true, and there never will be. But Anet will release two "expansions" every year, each with new content and possibly new classes*. These will cost money, here in Sweden the retail price over the counter is about 50 USD. You can probably get a copy cheaper if you buy it online, but fact is this will add up to be a pretty hefty sum over time.
Two expansions every year for 50 USD each, that's 100 USD a year - 8.30 USD a month. I don't know what other MMOs cost, but it's still a sum to consider.
*I don't have the energy to point out where this is information is taken from, if you've read all the statements from Anet you know this to be a fact.
Two expansions every year for 50 USD each, that's 100 USD a year - 8.30 USD a month. I don't know what other MMOs cost, but it's still a sum to consider.
*I don't have the energy to point out where this is information is taken from, if you've read all the statements from Anet you know this to be a fact.
Two April Mornings
haha - i like the breakdown - worht 50 bucks though
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
haha - i like the breakdown - worht 50 bucks though
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If this game had a monthly fee comparable to MMOs (~$15 USD) I would pay to play it.
DeanBB
This has never been a secret, it was stated from the beginning that this would be the method of revenue. I think most MMO's are around 15 per month, regardless of how many hours you play or don't play. At least with GW you have the choice of buying the expansions and can choose to play other games without the guilt of paying for something you don't use.
aron searle
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Originally Posted by lofblad
No monthly fee, that's true, and there never will be. But Anet will release two "expansions" every year, each with new content and possibly new classes*. These will cost money, here in Sweden the retail price over the counter is about 50 USD. You can probably get a copy cheaper if you buy it online, but fact is this will add up to be a pretty hefty sum over time.
Two expansions every year for 50 USD each, that's 100 USD a year - 8.30 USD a month. I don't know what other MMOs cost, but it's still a sum to consider. *I don't have the energy to point out where this is information is taken from, if you've read all the statements from Anet you know this to be a fact. |
/sarcasm
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by lofblad
*I don't have the energy to point out where this is information is taken from, if you've read all the statements from Anet you know this to be a fact. |
the information is on the GW site.OPTIONAL REMEMBER?
you can wait 3-4 months (or longer) for the price to drop before getting it.
you can pick which ones you want.
monthly fees are not optional and go on even if you dont play
big difference to me
lofblad
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Originally Posted by aron searle
your are correct, they should of course give both games away for free.
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lofblad
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
the information is on the GW site.OPTIONAL REMEMBER? you can wait 3-4 months (or longer) for the price to drop before getting it. you can pick which ones you want. monthly fees are not optional and go on even if you dont play big difference to me |
fallot
For me at least, its a lot easier to pay $50 after 6 months compared to $10-$15 per month. ANet is pretty smart though, you cant remain competitive without buying the expansions since each one will bring new professions and balance changes. So you can either buy the next chapter, or suck.
Jetdoc
The difference is that you have the option to purchase the new content or not. You can read reviews, test it and evaluate it BEFORE you spend the money. And that cost may go down over time, especially at large retailers that use it as a promotional item to get people in the door.
With a monthly fee you get whatever the provider gives you, whether you like it or not. You have to choose either to quit the game entirely if you don't like the updated content or suck it up and pay for it...
With a monthly fee you get whatever the provider gives you, whether you like it or not. You have to choose either to quit the game entirely if you don't like the updated content or suck it up and pay for it...
aron searle
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Originally Posted by lofblad
Why the sarcasm? Where did I state my own opinion about this system of payment, or the amount in question? It's just the facts as I understand them.
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Originally Posted by lofblad
No monthly fee, that's true, and there never will be. But Anet will release two "expansions" every year, each with new content and possibly new classes*. These will cost money, here in Sweden the retail price over the counter is about 50 USD. You can probably get a copy cheaper if you buy it online, but fact is this will add up to be a pretty hefty sum over time.
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Lab Monke
who said anything about 2 every year ????? It took a year to get 1....
Raxxman
just to echo the common sense thats filling this thread.
You don't have to buy chap 2
Fact is with 2 expansions a year you KNOW you're getting new content/maps skills as opposed to a monthly subscription were they will do stuff 'when they get round to it'
Stuff gets delayed you don't pay for it till it arrives.
And best bit is you can wait out the initial prices, pick and choose chapters (say they release a PvP slanted chapter and your PvE you can skip it)
You don't have to buy chap 2
Fact is with 2 expansions a year you KNOW you're getting new content/maps skills as opposed to a monthly subscription were they will do stuff 'when they get round to it'
Stuff gets delayed you don't pay for it till it arrives.
And best bit is you can wait out the initial prices, pick and choose chapters (say they release a PvP slanted chapter and your PvE you can skip it)