Chapter 2 Information from Computer Gaming World

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

So Auction trade (Auction House) is before Chapter 2?

and to regards www.amazon.co.uk its says
Quote:
Please note that release dates are subject to change.
And dont know about the .com but the co.uk is almost never right anyway.

xBakox

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

Hmmm....Not many dev posts. 10 pages and almost none . It seems the devs post more on GWonline. Flame the devs! J/k.

Anyways I love the ideas of 16 a team PvE and PvP. As long as the work sqaud based and not mob based (aka, they are divivded as usual, with the other team under allies, and hopefully you cant heal them or enchant them, but can res them. Also you can only chat to them with Local chat, and Guild chat if others are in your guild.) Also perhaps some way to organize getting 16 people together. Im assuming they are making a better group makign system since it has been asked for for a long time. But I also wouldnt want it to be random because my guild has more than 8 people that PvE and sometimes people ahve to get left out which stinks.

Gopher warrior

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Zhed Is Self Centaured [zhed]

if we already own C1 why do we have to BUY C2 to play it? or do we get like a disccount?

PS. this is sounding sorta like the Lineage 2 chronicles

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

wait.. can someone explain to me.. more greens (meaing new one) in Sorrow Furnace or A-Net will add a section in chapter 2 where you can farm for new green items?

Bmont3779

Bmont3779

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lions Arch

Me/

yes i would like to know how much i will be paying for this new game, and y i would have to buy a new cd

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

You do not have to buy chapter 2. You can continue to play chapter 1 all you want. But....if you want to play chapter 2, you will have to buy it. I'm sure it will have a similar cost to chapter 1.

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
You do not have to buy chapter 2.
Because it needed to be said twice.

On a side note, I will be getting Chapter two. It will probably end up greatly increasing your PUG invite rate as opposed to not having the additional skills and armors in the new chapter.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

M8, what on earth are you doing on the US servers!???

Charlotte the Harlot

Charlotte the Harlot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bay Area

none

R/

o guys just wanted to say guildwars.gameamp.com has a very discritptiv atricle on the skills and all the info exposed so far so id suggest checking it out

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopher warrior
if we already own C1 why do we have to BUY C2 to play it? or do we get like a disccount?

PS. this is sounding sorta like the Lineage 2 chronicles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmont3779
yes i would like to know how much i will be paying for this new game, and y i would have to buy a new cd



I hardly ever do this but "OMGZZZFD!dfDF!! Why dont's they give me the game fo' freee!!!!!"

Ok, see how retarded that just sounds? I can't believe you two expect to get a separate game/expansion for free.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
I swear, if I see another post about the supposed "March 31" date I'm at the very minimum just deleting the post. It's been posted how many times now and people still don't read.
Why even worry when it's coming out, it won't be released until it's ready and no one is going to get a jump on anyone else when it's released, so what's it matter if it's 31st or 2007, it ain't gonna be in our hands till it's ready. These when it's going to be released threads are rediculous anyways. They should be locked, shutdown, whatever. They serve no purpose but to spread rumors.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

A reminder to everyone.

Please do not post either links to or text of the magazine verbatim on these forums.

Thanks.

Sir Decoy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

just cross your fingers they dont make better armor than fissure or more expensive for that matter...

would be a HUGE waste of money for people who bought fissure and want the new armor...

hopefully this isnt the case, but besides this, im sure the chapter 2 expansion what ever its called will be great

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

I just read about the new chapter. I bet that Warrior/Assasins will be the new runner of choice.
Runners with stealth = serious cash

Stealth Runners, lol

Chef Boyardeath

Chef Boyardeath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katari
How fun would chess be if the white team got two queens? Would football be as much fun to watch if the home team got double points whenever they scored? PvP is competative, It needs that ballance to stay compettitve. Unbalanced games an be fine for a small, NWN RP comunity, but on a large scale like this, even in PvE balance is not just a good idea.

Did you ever play Diablo2? Morrowind? Ragnorak Online? Each of those games had massive balance problems. Cookie cutter builds, and 1-hit kills were the rule of the day. About RP? Heeeeh, you *could* RP in GW, I guess. Is it that much worse than WoW for RP? If not, blame the community. 13-15year olds are not typicaly RPers.
I busted out laughing when i read that, so I had to reply. I agree with pretty much everything you have said. The people complaining about level caps, and other things related to PvE are clearly playing the wrong game. As it's fun to pass the time but anyone looking at the games layout can clearly tell this isn't made for mfers (for you Diablo 2 people out there ).

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

i dont want to read that magazine , the less i know , the better will be , when i dive into the game

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher
The numbers you're working with are wrong. How is it paying 50-55 every six months when Chapter 2 is already way past 6 months since Chapter 1's been released? It would probably be more like a year since release.

Also in other MMO's, you have to buy the expansion and still pay for the monthly fee. GW is way way ahead in low cost gaming.
Yeah, you got that right. $50 buck for WoW, then you still gotta pay $15 per monthe to play.

One year of WoW: $50 + ($15 * 12) = $230 per year

One year of GW: $50 ch1 + $50 for ch2 = $100 per year.

With GW you're saving about $130 per year!


Also:
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTru
I wish the game would have stayed with the Charr (or atleast follow you around, showing up on every area) or moved on to Lord Olderan (sp), rather than going all X-Files on us.
Dude, what are you talking about? There are no space aliens.

Besides Tyria is hugh world. Ascalon and Kryta are only a part of it. Much like the United States or Europe is to the rest of the world. There is a whole lot more going on in the world than just the USA or the EU.

I think it's nice to peel back and explore a different part of Tyria. Just like Tolkien's Middle Earth, there is much more going on than what you read in LOTR or even the Hobbit. For instance, Sauron has a master named Melkor. And there is a proficy that tells of Melkor's return. But that story is outside the realm of LOTR. There is a whole lot of things like that in Middle Earth. I'm happy top see Anet branching out.

Besides, if Anet just sticks with the Charr, then GW can quickly become like the Borg on Star Trek or the new Star Wars films, just the same thing over and over and over. Nothing new.

Zeal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Finland

Isin Pikku Tytot

R/E

My friend wants to know that can u play all content if u buy chapter 2 or only chapter 2? Hes thinking now that should he buy GW now or after C2 comes.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeal
My friend wants to know that can u play all content if u buy chapter 2 or only chapter 2? Hes thinking now that should he buy GW now or after C2 comes.
If you buy chapter 2 only, you get the PvE content from chapter 2, the 2 new classes in full, and some core skills of the other 6 classes, but not all.

Amadei

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elfshade
And much more selection and details. More hair styles. Faces. Variants.
Seconded, thirded, fourthed, whatever. Although Lineage 2 is much, much worse (also with its controls). I really dislike seeing exact copies of myself running around in towns and outposts.

Everything I've read so far looks amazingly awesome -- I'm especially looking forward to the whole Luxon vs Kurzick thing and the two new professions (plus, the Assassin chick is hot). I also want to see a picture of the Ritualist, plz. I understand he's male -- he better be hot, too, 'cause us females want eye-candy too :P.

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Originally Posted by Gopher warrior
if we already own C1 why do we have to BUY C2 to play it? or do we get like a disccount?
You don't have to buy anything. (Needed to be said thrice .) Nobody's holding a gun to your head. And I highly doubt discounts of any kind. I see these expansions the same way I see the expansion packs for The Sims 2 -- as an add-on thing. Whether you buy it/them or not, you'll still have a good game to play. It's just that everyone who did buy the expansion will have lots more cool stuff than you do

Elfshade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands

Claws of Shadowborn [CS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katari
How fun would chess be if the white team got two queens?
When I play white, it usually has ... at least after the march of pawns

Elfshade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands

Claws of Shadowborn [CS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy_M
Hehe, rangers are the one class (weeelll, maybe mesmers too) where the females look tougher than the males. To be honest I would have just been happier with less blatant cliches in the character faces/builds. You know, chubby Conan rip-offs for the warriors, david beckham for the rangers ect...
Point well taken and agreed, especially on male warriors - those really have "cliche" written on their broad foreheads.

I would just like to be able to customize it more. Like Morrowind with 50 face mods installed or like the screenshots of EA Sports games (*ducks for cover*) I have seen where you can adjust every facial feature.

Granted, I'd probably still build the next supermodel since I look at my guild wars char for god knows how many hours and it better be neat and somehow I think so would 80% of the GW playing population.

Elfshade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands

Claws of Shadowborn [CS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
Well, if Amazon says so ... I will order it there, maybe they can bundle it up on MArch 31st with Stalker and Duke Nukem Forever *lol*

Elfshade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands

Claws of Shadowborn [CS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Decoy
just cross your fingers they dont make better armor than fissure or more expensive for that matter...

would be a HUGE waste of money for people who bought fissure and want the new armor...
And I just thought wasting players money is the whole point of a money sink that serves no other purpose but looking different

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

what i wonder is wich patron gods ritualist and assasin will get. I mean they cant yust make new ones or Cantha must have different beliefs than the rest of the gw world

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

Well, what I've gathered from elsewhere (including snippets apparently from the CGW article itself) -- the PvP story line mode (aka PvE mode) missions are not optional, but just more missions (think any of those in the game already -- such as Defend the Wall).

If it comes out as it seems, Guild Wars is no longer PvE-friendly, forcing us to play against (or with other players not joined to our party) other people. This opens up the opportunity for griefing; the lack of which was the deciding factor in my trying out Guild Wars. (As a casual player, griefing destroys any fun gained during my very limited time available to play). I can just see groups of people continually playing in the PvP story mission with the sole intent of keeping others from progressing; or in the coperative ones solely with the goal of not cooperating and thus preventing others from progressing.

I pray it does not come out this way. It's aggravating enough as it is that when I set aside time to do certain quests and log in to do them, I can't because my 'nation' doesn't have favor. Guild Wars, more than any of its audiences, seemed to target the non-obsessive players; those who weren't teenagers able to devote their entire life to playing the game but those who play more casually.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Talking about griefing, I wonder if the existing, completely deadlocking grief opportunities are going to be addressed. Like, the people zoning back and forth to make play impossible, and the ones picking up a quest item and just standing there teasing or blackmailing the party.

sirelricthemad

sirelricthemad

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Grotto

Crusaders of Valhalla [Odin]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Decoy
just cross your fingers they dont make better armor than fissure or more expensive for that matter...

would be a HUGE waste of money for people who bought fissure and want the new armor...
I will NEVER consider my FoW armor a huge waste. It took me months to save up for it and It's a testament to how much I love this game (also a testament to my neglected social life). I don't care how good the new armors will look. If I want it, I'll save up again.

Sucks to be an FoW ebayer though.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

"Like, the people zoning back and forth to make play impossible, and the ones picking up a quest item and just standing there teasing or blackmailing the party."

Those are addressable simply through reforming a party without the offenders. I'm grossly concerned about the griefing possible with these PvP story missions which seem to put you randomly against/with other parties, which had no input from you at all in its formation.

IceD'Bear

IceD'Bear

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Awoken Myth [MYTH]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Talking about griefing, I wonder if the existing, completely deadlocking grief opportunities are going to be addressed. Like, the people zoning back and forth to make play impossible, and the ones picking up a quest item and just standing there teasing or blackmailing the party.
Do you have any idea how to solve this, without introducing new possibilities for griefing?

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

I'm happy to see Anet put some training for PvP. The current Presearing is all PvE with no PvP training whatsoever. Many ppl have complained about that and now Anet apparently gonna have target calling and pulling quests. This will benefit PvEers and PvPers.

I'm always amazed at how there are so many lvl 20s who still don't know how to call a target or how to attack a called target. Yet, they are at lvl 20. It's like, "how did you get this far?"

Hat's off to you Anet. I'm buying.

Auntie I

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Veritas Invictus

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dralspire
You guys are better at speculating into thin air than a group of grandmothers at gossiping.

Quoted for truth and because I really like the dancing chicken!

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

i hope in my hear that the new pets arent yust reskins of the ones we have now even though a few different looking pet bears or stalkers whatever would be good

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadei
You don't have to buy anything. (Needed to be said thrice .) Nobody's holding a gun to your head. And I highly doubt discounts of any kind. I see these expansions the same way I see the expansion packs for The Sims 2 -- as an add-on thing. Whether you buy it/them or not, you'll still have a good game to play. It's just that everyone who did buy the expansion will have lots more cool stuff than you do
Guild Wars: Factions (aka Chapter 2) is not simply an add-on, it is a stand alone game which can be purchased and played without Chapter 1. But players with both chapters can play both contents seamlessly, that's what I understand from all these information released.

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadei
Seconded, thirded, fourthed, whatever. Although Lineage 2 is much, much worse (also with its controls). I really dislike seeing exact copies of myself running around in towns and outposts.

Everything I've read so far looks amazingly awesome -- I'm especially looking forward to the whole Luxon vs Kurzick thing and the two new professions (plus, the Assassin chick is hot). I also want to see a picture of the Ritualist, plz. I understand he's male -- he better be hot, too, 'cause us females want eye-candy too :P.
I agree on more varying looks.
On the note of the assassin being female and the ritualist being male...I think that both professions will have male and female models. It would get boring to see 1000plus female assassins running around and 50 male ritualists once chapter 2 is released.

badazzreddawg

badazzreddawg

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

knights of the old republic

W/Mo

So basically what im getting is that this new chapter is asian set, so we are going to be fighting basically ninjas. I wonder if the pets are gonna be asian set to such as tigers. Not that tigers would be so great cause they would be the same as a stalker or lynx. Also, I am wondering how the have it set up to get our old toons from Tyria to Cantha? Is the ritualist calss really ganna be worth it, i mean it seems to me hes just gonna be a necro that leaves bodies. Im really not to sure if this is gonna be worth it but i will see when it comes out. I might just be to negative about this, but it just dont seem like its gonna be worth another 50 bucks for the game.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

I didn't know Tigers were asians.... jk lol

Zomg N1j4s A774ck!!!

drakken06

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Dood
Hmmm....I wish the www.guildwars.com site would have posted screen shots and info on chapter two. I do not feel I have to buy a magazine just to see pictures and info on the second chapter.

Come on Gaile & Alan....lets post on YOUR website.
I'm so dedicated to this game that this will be the first issue of Computer Gaming World I will have ever bought. LOL. I'm horribly stoked over this expansion, but I thought that ANet mentioned THREE Professions as opposed to two... Oh well, two is better than none and I would like to see more skills than Professions. I'm so going assassin with the next chapter...hella. Can't Wait. I'll even get the collector's edition if one is offered. ^_^;;;

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by drakken06
I'm so dedicated to this game that this will be the first issue of Computer Gaming World I will have ever bought. LOL. I'm horribly stoked over this expansion, but I thought that ANet mentioned THREE Professions as opposed to two... Oh well, two is better than none and I would like to see more skills than Professions. I'm so going assassin with the next chapter...hella. Can't Wait. I'll even get the collector's edition if one is offered. ^_^;;;
Same...but each store I keep going to still has the January issue, and then I cry the whole drive back home over the gas I wasted in real life for Guild Wars.

XaiXo

XaiXo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Wales.

The Reclaimers of Drascir [TROD]

W/

Back to the topic of old chars going to the new place...Is it really possible? I see a slight problem. Beggining areas are meant to train the lower levels... Lvl20 W/Mos and N/Mes running havoc in the beggining areas sounds like a pretty stupid idea, I wonder will it be a different start point for old chars and new ones, or wether the old ones will be stuck in Tyria for good.

Id hate to see what would happen to the game economy if the lvl 20s farmed the beggining areas to death.
Ritualist/Mesmer FTW.