Chapter 2 Information from Computer Gaming World

Katari

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Upstate

Me/

09 Jan 2006 at 14:42 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andi DeMorte

GW is also too balanced... yes... too balanced. Life is not balanced and I would hate it if it were... it’s the differences in us that make life exciting. Only hard core PvPers want things completely balanced and “fair” but as someone who has belonged on NWN servers that catered to both PvP & RP... the PvP was so much more fun when it wasn't nerfed to become “balanced”. As my fiance likes to call it, GW is a FAG - Fantasy Action Game.

How fun would chess be if the white team got two queens? Would football be as much fun to watch if the home team got double points whenever they scored? PvP is competative, It needs that ballance to stay compettitve. Unbalanced games an be fine for a small, NWN RP comunity, but on a large scale like this, even in PvE balance is not just a good idea.

Did you ever play Diablo2? Morrowind? Ragnorak Online? Each of those games had massive balance problems. Cookie cutter builds, and 1-hit kills were the rule of the day. About RP? Heeeeh, you *could* RP in GW, I guess. Is it that much worse than WoW for RP? If not, blame the community. 13-15year olds are not typicaly RPers.

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

BBQRibs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Me

09 Jan 2006 at 14:45 - 202

As far as the argument against starting in a 'new pre-seering' area, or a new training area for the Chapter 2, I think its a wonderful idea and it should actually be done more. Think about it...all of us here didn't grow up in the same continent, or country, or state, or city, and our life experiences are based on that. I think the fact that this Asian-inspired chapter is in a new continent makes sense. And I'm hoping in future chapters they continue this and make new cultures that can 'grow up' in their own areas.

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 14:46 - 203

Hmmm....I wish the www.guildwars.com site would have posted screen shots and info on chapter two. I do not feel I have to buy a magazine just to see pictures and info on the second chapter.

Come on Gaile & Alan....lets post on YOUR website.

Andi DeMorte

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/N

09 Jan 2006 at 15:46 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

I'll agree with you here. Most MMORPG's don't have much in the way of RP though honestly from what I've seen, so I don't really see that as huge difference. There have been petitions for roleplaying only town districts around for months, for what its worth.

*nods nods* But at least on NWN you have the choice of joining an RP based server with other people that want to RP. It's just disappointing that GW was sold as a game you could RP but really the chat system makes that impossible... If you say something in Lions Ach by the entryway you hear it all the way to the beach. GW is really more of a first person fantasy action game. (once again... FAG

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

I could be mistaken here, but don't your average D&D campaigns typically have lower levels than what we have in Guild Wars anyway? Yes, you level more quickly in GW than in other games, but Anet's reasoning on the matter is more or less sound, just different from your typical RPG.

Most of what I said referred back to the fact that I would be much happier if GW were low lvl... then I would not have hit the cap so quickly and could still develop my character. I would only like the cap to go a "little" higher and take forever to lvl up to that. Anet's reasoning for lvling quickly has everything to do with PvP. *points to first paragraph*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

The doppelganger has been beaten at level 3, by the way.

Ahhhh.... I said it has been a long time. I only did it once and that was when the game first came out. It was nice to play through once but every time I try to play again I only get as far as lions gate... after that the story line moves away from where you started and takes a whole new direction that makes little sense.

I find myself wondering if I am such a hero then why am I leaving my homeland free to the charr? I kill a litch and that is supposed to make the world happy and all right? Suddenly everything is bubbles and pink puffy clouds? What the hell?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

In many ways, GW is more of a strategy game than an RPG in the classical sense. A flexible sort of balance is crucial, since, otherwise many classes are simply obsolete. Since you brought up Neverwinter, I'll draw a point from that: in NWN (the original at least, it's been awhile since I've played, for all I know, the classes have been "nerfed" since then), there was no point to play the warrior class (barbarian?), pretty much ever. Why? Because a sorcerer had better armor, could do more damage than the warrior could ever hope to be able to do, etc. Basically, there was an option available that was superior in every facet of play, at pretty much every level. From what we've seen of Anet, one of their objectives is to try to make not only every class, but every class combination, viable to play. Are some better than others? Of course. But the advantages aren't astronomical. And, more importantly, this means that the player strategy is more important than some enormous innate advantage one class has over another.

*nods nods* Yes... the makers of NWN admit the messed the barbarian class but either they have fixed it or the scripts on the servers I played fixed it. Though I still say it was the imbalances that brought us together. Fighter class needs the buffs the cleric can give so he can stand against the fire of the sorcerer/mage... etc... *points back again where I say GW was advertised as a RPG*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

When it comes to the internet, courtesy and intelligence are the first things that go out the window. That applies to pretty much any game you play, I don't think that is a problem in GW any more or less than any other online game.

Oh and don't I know it! I know that I am asking too much for people in a general sense to be polite and actually think about what they are saying and doing. For example I read every single post in this thread before I posted... half the posts were repeated questions that have already been answered in previous posts. My point... thank you Rico for such an intelligent reply. *curtsies*

Katari... I think I addressed your issues in my reply as well. GW was advertised and sold as an RPG... you have your choice of creating a RP or a PvP character. Why build a character in RP that focuses with the point of creating that character to PvP? I like PvP but when I am building my character my focus in on developing that character and why he/she would want to fight for a cause or group.... and my silly guild is better then your silly guild is not enough of a reason.

*points again where on NWN you can choose a server that focuses on RP* Maybe GW would be better if it had RP, PvP, etc districts rather then english1, german2, etc... nobody pays attention to that anyhow...

*hugs and kisses... runs off giggling*
Andi

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

09 Jan 2006 at 15:56 - 205

here's a question: The new items in Ch2, can they be equiped by a player who only owns Ch1? If yes then Ch2 buyers will make a ton selling to Ch1 players and if not then Ch1 players are screwed if the new items are better andn ot just different. JMO

Mexican

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

California Foo

Insane Military Foos [Foos]

E/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 15:56 - 206

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

If this was mentioned already, I apologize, but I've read through the thread and didn't see it. I'm assuming that people who have more than one account will have to purchase more than one license for Chapter 2 if they want to play the expansion on the addtional accounts?

Can We Maybe Get An Answer To This ? I have 3 accounts That I Have Bought So An Answer Would Be Nice

Agrestis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Blue Allience

R/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 16:39 - 207

hers what im worried about. that with this new faction war theres going to be lods of overpowered solo assasins appearing out of nowwhere "pwning" anything the disapeareing again, making the game unplayable. But hell if they do the balance as well then the faction wars are what ive always wished they had from WoW.

Jacek

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Head Choppers

W/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 16:40 - 208

Quote:

Originally Posted by pegasux

here's a question: The new items in Ch2, can they be equiped by a player who only owns Ch1? If yes then Ch2 buyers will make a ton selling to Ch1 players and if not then Ch1 players are screwed if the new items are better andn ot just different. JMO

The new item's will not be better for sure(maybe they will just look diffrent), and will not be avilable for players that owns only Ch1.

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

09 Jan 2006 at 16:44 - 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mexican

Can We Maybe Get An Answer To This ? I have 3 accounts That I Have Bought So An Answer Would Be Nice

Accounts are not linked. So yeah, a copy of chapter II for each account. And why do you have 3 accounts? That's 12 characters for a game that has 6 professions.

so 6 professions pve and a dedicated pvp char optimal account useage is 2 accounts 0.o

Why so many?

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

09 Jan 2006 at 16:55 - 210

I really hope they don't make the assassin stupid.

warriors are warriors for a reason, killing stuff is what they do, Already every other class can hex a warrior apart before he can do anything, if they make it so an assassin can beat a warrior while standing next to him then it will just nerf the warrior even more.

Personally I wouldn't mind it if the assassin was good vs spellcasters but warrior bait

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 17:04 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agrestis

hers what im worried about. that with this new faction war theres going to be lods of overpowered solo assasins appearing out of nowwhere "pwning" anything the disapeareing again, making the game unplayable. But hell if they do the balance as well then the faction wars are what ive always wished they had from WoW.

We dont know for certain on HOW the teleport skill will work...recharge time..energy cost...but I do agree that it could be overpowered or aggrivating if they could jump around freely.

Mexican

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

California Foo

Insane Military Foos [Foos]

E/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 17:33 - 212

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seissor

Accounts are not linked. So yeah, a copy of chapter II for each account. And why do you have 3 accounts? That's 12 characters for a game that has 6 professions.

so 6 professions pve and a dedicated pvp char optimal account useage is 2 accounts 0.o

Why so many?

1 Account is Personal and Guild Storage..1 is pvp and 1 is regular

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 17:35 - 213

Best confirmed new feature (not counting new content): guild storage.

No more need to involve another person when I want to swap items between my 2 accounts.

<3

forever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 17:39 - 214

Great stuff, I'm so looking forward to Chapter 2.

As for the character slots, I think the best way or most likely way is to add 4 more slots to your existing account when you buy chapter 2, and only 4 slots if you buy Chapter 2 without chapter 1. It will be perfectly balanced for chapter 1 and chapter 2 players this way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaythen Tyradel

We dont know for certain on HOW the teleport skill will work...recharge time..energy cost...but I do agree that it could be overpowered or aggrivating if they could jump around freely.

I think Assasin's teleport skills won't be absurdly powerful, they would either have long recharge time or high energy or conditional, so you can only use them as an strategy in some specific situation, not just teleporting everywhere and killing everything in surprise.

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

09 Jan 2006 at 17:55 - 215

I'm sure it'll be something like Necrotic Traversal, just without the poison and corpses...

SoulReaper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 18:35 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

It is a fair question. France should have a preview soon. Germany and the U.K. are sending reps this week and will have a preview soon, as well. Another major U.S. mag is sending a rep in the next week or so. There will be a lot of coverage in all regions, and I'm sure that each region will have good info, not necessarily as an exclusive, but more as a factor of the writer focusing upon it when others did not. So what we should do it have excellent write-ups -- a review of a preview, if you will -- that give the highlights of each article. In that way, all players get full information!

As long as the copyrights are respected, individual members of the different regions can share the info that they've gleaned. For credibility, I'd recommend posting the source, so that everyone knows it is on the up and up.

First of all, the Chapter 2 information that has been written here is very exciting and I'm looking forward to the expansion.
Second, a question to Gaile Gray:
Is this magazine will be provided in Asian countries?
Because I live in Israel and would really like to know more about the Chapter 2 but I'm not sure the magazine will be provided in Israel.

Pardoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 18:56 - 217

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malchior Devenholm

25 NEW SKILLS FOR ALL THE EXISTING PROFESSIONS?! *runs to Ember Light Camp with cash in hand*

Just curious, because I keep seeing this. What on Earth (or Tyria) makes you think the skills trainer at ELC will have these skills available for sale?

I really hope they aren't, myself. There should absolutely be an end-game trainer who sells all skills available in Chapter 2; that trainer should be in an end-game area of Chapter 2, not ELC.

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

09 Jan 2006 at 18:58 - 218

ok i have a question about the magazine: is it the january issue or the february issue cuz the stores that i have checked have the january issue and the cover looks different than the one on the front page so if someone could clear this up i'd appreciate it

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 19:19 - 219

When yah gonna add shapeshifting as a skill? I wanna turn into a werewolf or vampire or 2 headed Ettin and get their advantages. Werewolf strength, Vampire regeneration, 2 headed Ettin so I can talk to myself.

avoll

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Alpha HivE

W/R

09 Jan 2006 at 19:27 - 220

All I wanna know is, are we going to get more char slots.
Cuz it sucks only haveN 4 chars.
And yes I know I could have another acount but, logN in and out of differnt acounts is a pain in the @$$.
They should give us more char slots or let you link acounts together.
I dont care about payN more money I just want more char options then 4.
ThanX

kdhoney44

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently vacationing in reality....

Sith Jedi [SJ]

09 Jan 2006 at 20:28 - 221

Just wondering if the new guild halls will be available to players who only have chap 1. It would be kinda weird if I got one of the new guild halls and half my guild cant get into it because they havent bought Chap 2. Does anyone know if this has been covered somewhere else and I just havent seen it yet?

Other than that...I cant wait to check out the new places and characters and generally look forward to playing this new part of the game. A-net hasnt let us down yet so this new Chap should be interesting.

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

09 Jan 2006 at 21:15 - 222

There is an interview with Gaile Gray over at photics.com

http://photics.com/issues/issue25b.html

To paraphrase (and not copy their text)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray said at photics.com

Chapter two will have forms of recognition, special feature for PvE

Might want to add that to the front page list, looks like PvE will get some kind of.... well, "something" to be recognised by? Could be anything, PvE /rank style emotes, special titles, furry dice hehe anyway PvE players will get something in that respect.

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

09 Jan 2006 at 22:05 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elfshade

Newsflash: Jealousy can be counselled

Your warrior having to consume more Slimfast +2 and less Dwarven Ale doesn't mean that my lovely female Ranger alter ego needs to develop pixelated synergies with whales or elephants

Hehe, rangers are the one class (weeelll, maybe mesmers too) where the females look tougher than the males. To be honest I would have just been happier with less blatant cliches in the character faces/builds. You know, chubby Conan rip-offs for the warriors, david beckham for the rangers

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

ect...

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

09 Jan 2006 at 22:33 - 224

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Does anyone think fow armor will be available for either of the two new professions?

oh i hope so... and i hope we'll have more new armor crafters in diff areas, mb they just forget to mention it...

but what about new skills for existing professions?

p3nGuin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

FTP

W/Mo

09 Jan 2006 at 23:12 - 225

Hm, is this an expansion or will we have to buy it all over again?

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Jan 2006 at 23:31 - 226

Release Date: March 31st 2006
While it's not written in stone yet and there is always the possibility of it getting pushed back, Chances are good this is the date we should be looking for. I'm a bit surprised though because I was expecting somewhere around May. Also take note that page was put up on Jan 8Th.

Articles:
* Gamespot Q&A With Gaile on Chapter 2

Vampyre

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Indiana

Carpathian Mists

R/Rt

09 Jan 2006 at 23:33 - 227

Quote:

Originally Posted by p3nGuin

Hm, is this an expansion or will we have to buy it all over again?

This is a whole other box that you will have to buy... but you DONT HAVE to buy it... If you want all the new stuff, you will have to buy this

junit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

D/

09 Jan 2006 at 23:36 - 228

actually i take back what i said this could be good with good vs bad ...cuz bad guys could get skills that good guys cant and good guys could get skills bad guys cant...and maybe if you kill a bad guy you could cap his dark skill

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

09 Jan 2006 at 23:39 - 229

They already told us a few times before to not believe any of those release dates unless they specifically come from ANet themselves. I do believe someone mentioned the March 31st in the forum discussion you linked, and the same thing was told to him.

I'd wait for something official, but thanks for posting the Gamespot interview, I hadn't seen that yet.

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

09 Jan 2006 at 23:39 - 230

until its on the official site, ignore the 31st march. They've said first half 2006, stores/sites are using March 31st coz its halfway through the first half.

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

10 Jan 2006 at 00:24 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

until its on the official site, ignore the 31st march. They've said first half 2006, stores/sites are using March 31st coz its halfway through the first half.

Yes, unless it's from an official source, take any release date you come across with a handful of salt.

I've heard a story about an Electronics Boutique store trying to tell Gaile what the release date for Chapter 1 was sometime in mid-2004. Surprisingly enough, that wasn't accurate either...

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Eighty Five

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Memphis, TN, USA

GWOnline.net Guild

N/Me

10 Jan 2006 at 00:54 - 232

So does anyone know if there are any screens in the magazine of the Ritualist?

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

10 Jan 2006 at 01:03 - 233

"Gaile Gray: We DO have a major update planned in a VERY short time." She mentioned it won't be similar to SF but we will have NEW GREENS! If this is all true I strongly doubt Chapter two will be out before May. Also, if it wasn't mentioned yet Chapter two will be called Guild Wars: Factions

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

10 Jan 2006 at 01:14 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarus From TarosRelease Date: March 31st 2006[/URL

While it's not written in stone yet and there is always the possibility of it getting pushed back, Chances are good this is the date we should be looking for. ]

NO

this has been already shot down officially as normal advertising to get preorders and the date will change when the real date is on the OFFICIAL site,

rumor and people keep spreading it.

from the people who should know

Quote:

I know it's incredibly boring, but I can only repeat what Gaile has said when asked about rumours in the past:

Until we confirm something, don't set your heart on it being true. If it's a rumour, chances are it's going to be wrong. That's the way these things go, a lot of the time. Someone will talk about something they'd *like* to have, and overtime as more people talk about it it gets twisted into "I heard they are going to do this..."
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Guild Wars Community Relations
NCsoft Europe

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

10 Jan 2006 at 01:24 - 235

I swear, if I see another post about the supposed "March 31" date I'm at the very minimum just deleting the post. It's been posted how many times now and people still don't read.

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

10 Jan 2006 at 01:29 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio

I swear, if I see another post about the supposed "March 31" date I'm at the very minimum just deleting the post. It's been posted how many times now and people still don't read.

..... I can't believe I'm saying this to a mod but Savio calm down everyone is excited about this so their trying to spread the word.....even though it they probably don't think and use the search button and didn't remember the "DON'T POST RELEASE DATE UNTIL ANET RELEASES DATE!"

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

10 Jan 2006 at 01:53 - 237

"Story missions match groups with and against each other (whole 8 player groups included)"

Does anyone care to speculate about this? As a PVE only player, this disappoints me. It sounds like some of the normal game missions will be PVP (like that annoying arena at the end of Pre-Sear). I don't want to have to deal with any other people than those I play with locally in my guild. Especially not in PVP contexts. We play casually, damn it.

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

10 Jan 2006 at 01:56 - 238

It's fairly safe to say these PvP sections will be probably be optional There is a large enough player base that only likes to PvE so I doubt Anet will do something to alienate them.

I like the idea of "groups of 8 WITH each other" maybe this means some big battles versus like some boss or army, or something? 16 people PvE

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

10 Jan 2006 at 01:59 - 239

"16 people PvE" Nah. If I wanted crap like that, I'd play WoW with raids of 40+. I pretty much only play the game with people I know; and I'm certain I'm not a minority as a player who does that. Keep me with the party I formed in town when entering the mission, and have reasonable enough henchmen to pad up to what's required to do the mission.

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

10 Jan 2006 at 02:01 - 240

That's why those sections will more than likely (if it hasn't already been stated as fact by Anet) be optional like I said...