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Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

30 May 2010 at 17:02 - 801

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashius

If you're referring to me, then I'm hardly defending anything, I did not receive a ban. But what I was saying is that they should not be thrown in the same boat as gold farmers, a 2 week suspension would be enough to let them know that A-Net is serious, and it would not lose them as potential customers for GW2. And don't say that the community would be better without them, as chances are 100% of what they had on their account they earned themselves, they just merely became curious and were burned at the stake for it.

Curiosity killed the cat. The cat can be excused though, he's just a dumb animal. Experienced players should know better. Regardless of what the EULA says, it's not an unexpected innovation to be banned from an online game for messing with the game. It's a more than a decade-old concept. It should come as no surprise that you might get a bullet in the head when you play russian roulette.

Ashius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Australia

Dr Dre Detox Beatz [Dre]

30 May 2010 at 17:13 - 802

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

Curiosity killed the cat. The cat can be excused though, he's just a dumb animal. Experienced players should know better. Regardless of what the EULA says, it's not an unexpected innovation to be banned from an online game for messing with the game. It's a more than a decade-old concept. It should come as no surprise that you might get a bullet in the head when you play russian roulette.

But what I don't think you understand is that one of the main intentions of this action was to remove the major exploiters from the game, but it has resulted in more of a little guy suffers, big guy gets hit with nothing as he has the resources to move on. That is why I believe there should have been varying levels of punishment, it would have had the same effect.

Dervish Kid

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Florida

D/

30 May 2010 at 17:17 - 803

Botters come back, ban ban ban.. just check IP anet and keep banning

Ashius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Australia

Dr Dre Detox Beatz [Dre]

30 May 2010 at 17:23 - 804

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dervish Kid

Botters come back, ban ban ban.. just check IP anet and keep banning

IP bans aren't 100% effective, not everyone has a static IP.

Gill Halendt

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

30 May 2010 at 17:36 - 805

Quote:

Originally Posted by Covah

Pretty sure 24 hour ban is the most basic.

Not for the EULA: account suspensions are given for players' behavioural issues in game.

This is not the case. Account termination is issued even for delays in payment with the Credit Card, which looks like a minor offence when compared to hacking.

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

30 May 2010 at 17:36 - 806

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashius

IP bans aren't 100% effective, not everyone has a static IP.

Well i got banned, would really suck if my father got banned too since we are on the same internet connection.

Now the only thing that sucks is when i walk downstairs is that my father is playing guild wars a lot and i cant play.

So i agree on ip bans are not 100% effective also for people like the ones in belgium, they turn of their modem and turn it on again and then they get a new ip adress.

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

30 May 2010 at 19:36 - 807

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emunator

Well i got banned, would really suck if my father got banned too since we are on the same internet connection.

Now the only thing that sucks is when i walk downstairs is that my father is playing guild wars a lot and i cant play.

So i agree on ip bans are not 100% effective also for people like the ones in belgium, they turn of their modem and turn it on again and then they get a new ip adress.

Good point as to why they banned the accounts as well.

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

30 May 2010 at 20:09 - 808

Quote:

Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

Good point as to why they banned the accounts as well.

Wrong.
If they did that they could ban people like my father too and i know he never bots too.
They probably banned those accounts because they where also used with a 3rd party program.

cormac ap dunn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Mystic Empires III [xMEx]

Me/

30 May 2010 at 20:22 - 809

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emunator

Wrong.
If they did that they could ban people like my father too and i know he never bots too.
They probably banned those accounts because they where also used with a 3rd party program.

I think you misunderstood, I was agreeing with you, its a good thing they banned the individual accounts for the sake of people like your father. It was also needed in cases with rotating IP addresses.

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

30 May 2010 at 20:24 - 810

Quote:

Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

I think you misunderstood, I was agreeing with you, its a good thing they banned the individual accounts for the sake of people like your father. It was also needed in cases with rotating IP addresses.

Then i actually did misunderstand you.

Il Living Il

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

FINE ssss IWAY HooD

31 May 2010 at 08:03 - 811

i return home from travvelling tommorow, if banned am i going to try and log on and be presented with a code 45 or am i going to have to wait around for dhuum to come scythe me?

Emunator

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

DVDF

Mo/E

31 May 2010 at 08:25 - 812

Quote:

Originally Posted by Il Living Il

i return home from travvelling tommorow, if banned am i going to try and log on and be presented with a code 45 or am i going to have to wait around for dhuum to come scythe me?

You would get code 45

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

31 May 2010 at 09:26 - 813

I would like to thanks A-Net for the action they just took.

I'm a former GW player (look at my join date on Guru) that has been completely disgusted from Guild Wars due to apparent laxism regarding botting, synchers and cheaters (and also lack of content, but that's another story).

I did actually argue about bottin' long time ago, but when influent guru posters (as Martin - directly accused to bot in RbR) tried to minimize the bottin' aspect or began to say it's either negligible or can't be solved, I just quitted GW.
As a side note, I botted in low level (aka RA-TA) arenas. I used TextMod and did use autoclickers for my drunkard title. However, I did never pursue the botting very far (i.e. I have not finished my drunkard title since I prefered to have it the legit way, using builds revolving around drunk-based skills - but it asked too much of my time, or I never used GWXX (put the right letters) to farm raptors etc...).
I did also quit PvP (and Guild wars in fact) when it got invaded by botters and when ,after having tried rupts bots, I saw they were by far superior to a legit player, because unable to be fooled by skill cancelling, and able to see the key skills to interrupt. I came to Guru to say how it was an issue, and people just laughed at me justifying botting, or saying "Anet works on GW2, get with it and shut up".
Surprisingly I did not have my account banned. I just logged in after that a friend of mine said on Lotro that he had his account banned. I would have so much liked that it was. That means that a lot of botting accounts are still completely untouched. Maybe they didn't ban me because that makes months now I don't play anymore. I would like to see even more severity. I did bot, I should be banned. End of story. I think that Anet made a kinda "advertisement" to prevent legit players from switching to another game, without striking too hard the botters who still have paid too for GW.
3700 accounts is meaningless.
However, what they did kinda raised the esteem I have in A-Net. I may try GW2 and not stick to Diablo III and Starcraft II, as I wanted to, since Anet seemed unable to prevent cheaters from invading the community.

To Anet: Cheers.

To botters : QQ moar.

EDIT: corrections to my bad english.

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

31 May 2010 at 09:35 - 814

Quote:

Originally Posted by glountz

I botted in low level arenas. I used TextMod and did use autoclickers for my drunkard title.
I did bot, I should be banned.

Define botted in low lvl? Texmod and drunkard bot is allowed

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 09:44 - 815

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashes

Define botted in low lvl? Texmod and drunkard bot is allowed

Drunkard bot is NOT allowed. Do not post misinformation.

Texmod is allowed, as it isn't botting, in ANY form. Texmod simply changes textures client side, and cannot play the game for you in any form.

Botting is defined as "When you leave the computer, your character continues to give input to the server" or "your character gives extra input into the server without you taking those actions physically". If either one of those = True, you are botting, and you will be found, and you will be banned.

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

31 May 2010 at 09:47 - 816

Ever heard of anyone getting banned for using drunkard bot?

I thought we have had this discussion 100 times already

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 09:48 - 817

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashes

Ever heard of anyone getting banned for using drunkard bot?

I thought we have had this discussion 100 times already

Uh... lol? So, since you haven't heard about it, it's ok, despite ANET saying it isn't? Time for you to go to the corner and be quiet now. ANET has forbidden the use of this bot, and if a GM sees you using it to level your drunkard title, they WILL BAN YOU PERMANENTLY. Discussion over.

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

31 May 2010 at 11:39 - 818

Yay, finally.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

31 May 2010 at 11:59 - 819

Another tip, don't use G11 keyboards to macro the drunkard title either...

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

31 May 2010 at 12:04 - 820

GW would be a nice game if Anet retroactively banned all former drunkard bot users

*tumbleweed*

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 12:07 - 821

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Another tip, don't use G11 keyboards to macro the drunkard title either...

You can't to my knowledge, and so long as you were there pressing the macro button, that wouldn't be cheating/botting. ANET has stated this on several occasions. The issue comes in when you leave the computer completely or are no longer giving input to the game, and it continues to play for you. If you could macro the G11/15 to do that, it would be extremely limited. I own a G15, and it's extremely limited in the macro complexity, which doesn't include mouse clicks.

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

31 May 2010 at 12:11 - 822

You can use macros with any keyboard.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

31 May 2010 at 12:52 - 823

I remember reading somewhere that someone was banned for macroing on a G11 keyboard.

Just thought I'd throw that chip in.

GreenX

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

31 May 2010 at 13:22 - 824

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

I can't comment on your case, as I am not customer support. All I can say is that support investigates each account thoroughly. Please take it up with them.

too bad support doesn't do much about the issue either, all they do is refer you to the EULA which you had scrutinized 10x before contacting them with the message; "please don't bother us anymore, we know we are right and don't give a **** about what you have to say. any further inquiry will be ignored just like the first one".

and its quite blatantly obvious they don't even read what you write to them, wouldn't be surprised if the answer came from an automated system.

axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Pwn Appetit [NJoy]

W/

31 May 2010 at 13:38 - 825

So I have no sympathy for anyone posting on this forum that got banned.

If you post here, you know enough about the game to know what you did, even if you just "tried it out" because with all the account hacks problems, Anet issued so many MULTIPLE warnings about "third party programs" on the login screen, actually throughout the course of the game, reminding you not to use third party,

Its common sense for 2 reasons, 1 you dont know the source of the 3rd party and they can steal your pass, and hack you, and 2 you know botting is against the EULA (third party software) they were banning people for macro's and running other scripts (although this was harder to detect and required mods actually watching the behaviour) they did this several times.

In other words, this is common knowledge, especially for those posting on this forum, the only reason people are trying to make themselves sound innocent is because maybe they did get burned by thinking if they used it once they would not get caught, but damn you still ran a serious risk of getting your account hacked.

I guess trying to discredit Anet publicly might convince more people that they have the possibility to get unbanned, but Seriously Anet has more to gain by doing another round of trash cleanup.

I mean it kinda sucks when you got a guy that has R12 hero, and R10 glad and he tries a bot out in RA and gets 1 glad point, and the rest he earned only to get code 045, but if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.

Im glad that this thing got rolling, I would like to see another round though, to shut up all the "innocent" people, because I think they are more angry that other botters DID NOT GET BANNED for the SAME THING, and so they are thinking, if they missed xyz for using the same bot as me, maybe I am "innocent" too.

GOGOGOGO

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

31 May 2010 at 16:35 - 826

Quote:

Originally Posted by axe

Im glad that this thing got rolling, I would like to see another round though, to shut up all the "innocent" people, because I think they are more angry that other botters DID NOT GET BANNED for the SAME THING, and so they are thinking, if they missed xyz for using the same bot as me, maybe I am "innocent" too.

I think you nailed it about many of the people who have been flaming Anet for the last several days about unequal justice and whatever else they can convince themselves to justify their own CHEATING.

I don't know that we will see another large public statement from Anet about future bans but I do believe that they will continue their bot harvest.
As much as people get bored and flame Anet for any perceived shortcomings, my experience has been that they have ran a pretty solid game overall and still continue to try and keep it entertaining and fair {skill balance aside but that has been out the window since they added new classes IMO}

The content in GWs {or any other game} is limited and when you get bored with it go play something else, I'm sure you will gain a new appreciation for how Anet has operated GWs in short order.

Move Down

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

31 May 2010 at 17:29 - 827

I am flaming ncsoft already a few months now.
But i get sick of some of you retards that still think you banned you have done something wrong.
YOU CAN BE BANNED WHILE YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING.
Hope its happens to all of you too you will see then

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

31 May 2010 at 17:40 - 828

Quote:

Hope its happens to all of you too you will see then

lawl.

IF I should get 'permabanned' from GW..I certainly won't be coming onto the same said game's fan forum and announcing:
"FUUUUUUU ANET!! FUUUUUU Guru! FUUUUUU PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T 'SMART' ENOUGH TO DOWN LOAD A BOT!!!"
"I HOPE YOU GET BANNED LIKE I DID!!"

nope.

I would be submitting a ticket to support, and following the procedures with THEM, as to a resolution.

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

31 May 2010 at 17:52 - 829

Quote:

Originally Posted by Move Down

I am flaming ncsoft already a few months now.
But i get sick of some of you retards that still think you banned you have done something wrong.
YOU CAN BE BANNED WHILE YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING.
Hope its happens to all of you too you will see then

I agree with what you say. In fact I've seen it happen. The thing is, it's really a catch 22.

The true cheaters will lie about doing it.

PlayNC will stand on their rulings (be those right or wrong), if they see any type of evidence that they believe points to an infraction.

The best we can hope for, is that those wrongfully banned don't have any kind of suspicious activity on their accounts. Other than that it's SOL time because cheaters lie, and PlayNC won't error on the side of caution because of it.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

31 May 2010 at 18:16 - 830

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

lawl.

IF I should get 'permabanned' from GW..I certainly won't be coming onto the same said game's fan forum and announcing:
"FUUUUUUU ANET!! FUUUUUU Guru! FUUUUUU PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T 'SMART' ENOUGH TO DOWN LOAD A BOT!!!"
"I HOPE YOU GET BANNED LIKE I DID!!"

nope.

I would be submitting a ticket to support, and following the procedures with THEM, as to a resolution.

Come on now, be a good sport. Being reasonable isn't entertaining at all. If everyone thought like you did, this place would be boring as hell.

I hope you realize what you've done.

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

31 May 2010 at 18:22 - 831

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

Come on now, be a good sport. Being reasonable isn't entertaining at all. If everyone thought like you did, this place would be boring as hell.

I hope you realize what you've done.

*sigh*
I know, I know.
But the common sense angle wasn't working ...you saw them pull teh Izzy card on me!!!

lawl.

billypowergamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

31 May 2010 at 18:46 - 832

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

You can't to my knowledge, and so long as you were there pressing the macro button, that wouldn't be cheating/botting. ANET has stated this on several occasions. The issue comes in when you leave the computer completely or are no longer giving input to the game, and it continues to play for you. If you could macro the G11/15 to do that, it would be extremely limited. I own a G15, and it's extremely limited in the macro complexity, which doesn't include mouse clicks.

Actually, the G series keyboards software does allow for mouse clicks to be inputed into the macro's. I've played around with it on my G11 which is the same as the G15 without the HUD.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 18:57 - 833

Quote:

Originally Posted by billypowergamer

Actually, the G series keyboards software does allow for mouse clicks to be inputed into the macro's. I've played around with it on my G11 which is the same as the G15 without the HUD.

This is a fine line then... if you leave the computer and the macro automates the clicks for you, without requiring input, that is 'botting', and isn't allowed. You could potentially be perma banned if a GM saw you doing this. I haven't found this mouse recording section of the G15, but.... I'll take your word for it.

Will they catch you? Doubtful, but the point stands. If you get banned, it would be a valid ban, and you would have no room for discourse. The likelihood of getting banned for something this "minor" is slim to none, and you would need to be a pretty unlucky person to get banned for this type of 'botting'. This is far less damaging to the game than the bots we have seen banned, or will see in the future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp08

so...much...irony

That isn't irony at all... see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

He/she isn't claiming innocence, nor are they saying this was an unjust action on ANET's part. They have admitted guilt, and are simply saying that they aren't being severe enough. If anything, it might be sarcasm, but it doesn't appear to me that way. This seems to be a semi responsible person who was caught cheating, knows it, and is moving on. They gambled, and lost against the house, and are leaving the casino now.

billypowergamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

31 May 2010 at 19:19 - 834

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

This is a fine line then... if you leave the computer and the macro automates the clicks for you, without requiring input, that is 'botting', and isn't allowed. You could potentially be perma banned if a GM saw you doing this. I haven't found this mouse recording section of the G15, but.... I'll take your word for it.

Will they catch you? Doubtful, but the point stands. If you get banned, it would be a valid ban, and you would have no room for discourse. The likelihood of getting banned for something this "minor" is slim to none, and you would need to be a pretty unlucky person to get banned for this type of 'botting'. This is far less damaging to the game than the bots we have seen banned, or will see in the future.

This is why I brought it up, it does make for a very bad grey area when you can set the macro keys up to either be an "autoclicker" bot of sorts, or a rapid fire button for double clicking. That does bring up a question of using the rapid fire for things like sweet tooth, but I guess since you would be sitting at the keyboard holding down the button it would be ok, unless you did one of these that is

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Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 19:26 - 835

Quote:

Originally Posted by billypowergamer

This is why I brought it up, it does make for a very bad grey area when you can set the macro keys up to either be an "autoclicker" bot of sorts, or a rapid fire button for double clicking. That does bring up a question of using the rapid fire for things like sweet tooth, but I guess since you would be sitting at the keyboard holding down the button it would be ok, unless you did one of these that is

:

LOL The Simpsons Movie! LOLOLOL

Uh.... but back on topic. I actually did macro a rapid fire button for my sweet tooth title, come to think of it. I was there, hitting the button every 5 seconds or so, but it was triggering my mouse to click (so I take back my previous statement about not knowing the G15 did mouse macroing) I did this in Marhan's Grotto, and it only saved my finger. The point is, I was still there, giving input to the game, so that isn't botting. Botting is defined, again, as leaving the computer completely, and it continues to give the game extended input with no physical interaction from the user, or a program automatically creates game input based on circumstance (a true bot).

Ka Tet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Pita Bread And Scud Missiles Ai[iiii]

31 May 2010 at 19:36 - 836

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

LOL The Simpsons Movie! LOLOLOL

Uh.... but back on topic. I actually did macro a rapid fire button for my sweet tooth title, come to think of it. I was there, hitting the button every 5 seconds or so, but it was triggering my mouse to click (so I take back my previous statement about not knowing the G15 did mouse macroing) I did this in Marhan's Grotto, and it only saved my finger. The point is, I was still there, giving input to the game, so that isn't botting. Botting is defined, again, as leaving the computer completely, and it continues to give the game extended input with no physical interaction from the user, or a program automatically creates game input based on circumstance (a true bot).

Irony.
Botting is botting, no excuses. Whether you did it for 2 years to farm gold to sell or sitting in an outpost. You gained an unfair advantage by using a third party application and played the game in a way other than it was intended. Given the stance you've taken on this issue on the forums, I will expect that you will not QQ or try to argue your innocence. You did it, you knew it was wrong. Now, go e-mail support and ask them to ban your account.

windtalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

[LOD]

N/

31 May 2010 at 19:55 - 837

Quote:

Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

Botting is botting, no excuses. Whether you did it for 2 years to farm gold to sell or sitting in an outpost. You gained an unfair advantage by using a third party application and played the game in a way other than it was intended. Given the stance you've taken on this issue on the forums, I will expect that you will not QQ or try to argue your innocence. You did it, you knew it was wrong. Now, go e-mail support and ask them to ban your account.

THIS. Also what kind of crack are you on to define botting as "leaving the computer?" Botting, aka automating, is doing anything that makes your computer do an action/actions for you. According to your previous logic in the thread, that makes you just as "bannable" as anyone else.

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

31 May 2010 at 20:40 - 838

I've actually sent support an email asking if another program I use that has an optional rapid fire function is acceptable for use. I don't care about the rapid fire function of the program, nor have I used it, but I explained it to them. Strictly speaking, rapid fire is automation while the button or key is held down. If they reply addressing whether or not rapid fire is allowed, I'll post their response.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

31 May 2010 at 20:42 - 839

The G15/G11 keyboard macros have been touched on by ANET in the past. Using them to click the mouse for you when you are pressing a button isn't cheating, it's quite simply using a macro. I use the G15 to enter my login information as well, via an encrypted macro file.

You are attempting to relate a functionality that is expressly different from the topic at hand. This isn't an issue of degree of severity, but a COMPLETELY different issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the walkin dude

played the game in a way other than it was intended.

I didn't, I had my keyboard button replace my mouse button. Are you telling me that mapping buttons is now cheating? LOL. Targeting the sweets, and pressing a button on my keyboard instead of targeting the sweets and pressing a button on my mouse is cheating? Well, in that case...

You are cheating when you rig your F key to use your 8th skill, since that key is closer to your hard than the 8 key. You gained an unfair advantage! CHEATER! You see how absurd this argument is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

I've actually sent support an email asking if another program I use that has an optional rapid fire function is acceptable for use. I don't care about the rapid fire function of the program, nor have I used it, but I explained it to them. Strictly speaking, rapid fire is automation while the button or key is held down. If they reply addressing whether or not rapid fire is allowed, I'll post their response.

It isn't automated, as you are still there, holding down the key. Now, if you put a paperweight on the key, and leave, then it becomes an issue. But... then we run into the issue of... it's impossible for ANET to know if you were there or you used a paper weight. Overall, this is the only gray area I can really see. Automation is where the it requires no input.

BUT, here's an interesting view on this. What happens when that stack of sweets runs out? Your mouse cannot move on its own to the next stack without you doing so unless you are using an extensive macro system that does everything for you at the push of a button.

Rigging a key to repeat based on user input is the same as binding a key, and taking advantage of repeat input. This isn't a gray area if you look at it from that perspective.

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

W/

31 May 2010 at 20:51 - 840

Somwhat off the current discussion, but I take it I'm not the only person about to have an aneurysm from all the QQ threads of botters that got banned and make themselves the victims and/or somehow try to make it Anet's fault?

I just needed to vent this...